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Business / Re: Ban Air France From Nigeria Now! by diarra94(m): 3:45am On Nov 22, 2014 |
i dont mind nigerians being scrutinized before entry into any country... most of you motherfuckers do nothing but soil nigeria's disfigured image. |
Politics / Re: Jonathan Is An Embarrassment To Ph.D Holders - Professor Akin Oyebode by diarra94(m): 9:38am On Oct 31, 2014 |
nigerian professors are bullshit. they make absolutely no tangible contribution to science but just sit on their asses and fail students. i would have probably killed one of my lecturers if i studied in nigeria. |
Politics / Nigeria Has The Highest Number Of Child Homicides by diarra94(m): 12:50pm On Sep 05, 2014 |
About 120 million girls around the world - slightly more than one in 10 - have been raped or sexually assaulted by the age of 20, a UN report says. The children's agency Unicef also says 95,000 children and teenagers - most of them in Latin America and the Caribbean - were murdered in 2012 alone. It notes that children around the globe are routinely exposed to violence, including bullying. The document draws on data from 190 countries. 'Lifelong repercussions' The violence "cuts across boundaries of age, geography, religion, ethnicity and income brackets,'' Unicef executive director Anthony Lake said. Homicide is the leading cause of death among young males in many Latin American countries, the UN says Violence against children 120m girls - one in 10 - are raped or sexually attacked by age of 20 Boys also report experiences of sexual violence, but to a lesser extent than girls The most common form of sexual violence for both genders is cyber-victimisation 95,000 children and teenagers were murdered in 2012 Slightly over one in three students aged 13-15 experience regular bullying in school Six out of 10 children aged between two and 14 are physically punished by carers. "It occurs in places where children should be safe, their homes, schools and communities. "Increasingly, it happens over the internet, and it's perpetrated by family members and teachers, neighbours and strangers and other children.'' The study revealed that about six out of 10 children aged between two and 14 were subjected to physical punishment from their carers on a regular basis. One in three girls, aged between 15 and 19, who had at some time been in cohabiting relationships, had been victims of emotional, physical or sexual violence committed by their husbands or partners, the report said. Partner violence appeared to be particularly prevalent in countries including the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, Tanzania and Zimbabwe, the report said. Of the countries surveyed, nearly half of all girls aged 15-19 believed that a husband was justified in hitting his wife under certain circumstances, the study added. Grim audit Meanwhile, homicide was reported as the leading cause of death in boys and men aged 10-19 in many Latin American countries, such as Venezuela, Panama, Brazil and Colombia. Nigeria had the highest number of child homicides - 13,000, while the US had the highest homicide rate among countries in Western Europe and North America. Research showed that violence was "detrimental to all aspects of a child's growth... with sometimes lifelong repercussions," the report said. The study said cyber-victimisation was the most common form of sexual violence for both genders It noted that while there had been growing recognition in recent years about the impact of violence against children, it largely remained underreported and undocumented. The report stressed that violence against children in some countries remained socially accepted or tacitly condoned, and quite often victims were too afraid to report the abuse. Never before have so many statistics been gathered from so many different countries, and together they have produced a grim global audit of violence against children, the BBC's Nick Bryant at the UN says. Source: http://m.bbc.com/news/world-29071073 |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 3:21pm On Aug 23, 2014 |
cloudstar: cloudstar I would not write long sentences any longer because its clear your problem is you have no understanding of evolution. all these misconceptions you have are well evaluated and discussed in books and videos. go figure. you never answered my question, what does biology say about the evolution of angiosperms. please educate yourself: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-to-biology.html. cloudstar: the problem is Christians try to indiscreetly change the words in the bible to suite present day scenarios, the bible clearly said everything that creeps on the ground which is not a distinction of animals on any basis. cloudstar: this is a direct quote from you " Then God said, " Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind : cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind "; and it was so. God made the beasts of the earth after their kind , and the cattle after their kind , and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind ; and God saw that it was good." you should also know that cattle were domesticated from wild aurochs and bisons around 10000 years ago so I don't get that. you should also check out the definition for a beast before you rush to defend such nonsense. cloudstar: the link is in the text. http://bib.irr.org/todays-bible-real-bible. please learn to read quotes before dismissing them. cloudstar: I did exactly that. seeds are produced in flowers and so you you can't explain one ignoring the other. go back and read that more concisely. cloudstar: I don't believe in faith but reason. I never said evolution is not a theory. I made myself clear when I said just as the foundation for modern chemistry was laid centuries ago, so is evolutionary science being developed today. A lot of new findings will be made and many misconceptions will also be resolved. This is pure science. cloudstar: And this is why I can't bring myself to believe in god. Everything has a source and god can not be excluded as I am sure he must be made up of matter. cloudstar: You are drifting from our argument. Your misconceptions on the big bang are not my problem to solve as you have Google and physicists for that. No one said the big bang theory was triggered by nothing. Go figure. cloudstar: I would not say much please do read this http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-to-biology.html and just to let you know evolution theories are without exceptions. cloudstar: And yet he destroyed a tower cos humans were trying to build up to heaven. I don't think he is beyond space then. How can you claim god is beyond time and space when you can't prove his existence. cloudstar: Like I've said countless times I am not here to change your concept of our existence but to make you understand that evolution is already well established and major breakthroughs are continuously made cloudstar: Why do plants use carbon dioxide while animals use oxygen. Why can't humans live in water or very high terrains. We have adapted to living on land. I understand what you mean by the earth having the right conditions and resources for our existence but adaptation enabled us make the best use of those resources. cloudstar: hahaha you're knowledge on mutation and genetics is also very shallow. please make sure you check out these links http://www.icr.org/article/fruit-flies-face-macroevolution/ http://news.yale.edu/2013/10/17/researchers-rewrite-entire-genome-and-add-healthy-twist cloudstar: its called a scientific law . evolution is not a law. you haven't answered my question on the elephant man. cloudstar: So just because evolution takes millions of years to occur simply means it is not scientific. Yes evolution is a theory. Like I said we presently lack the tools and knowledge to replicate or prove evolution in a lab. We are not dealing with chemicals here but living cells which are much more complex to manipulate. I like your last statement because the bible is a classic example. cloudstar: they were apelike but more upright and with slightly larger brains. cloudstar: but you hypothesized the earth being several million years old. You should be able to back that estimate with a proof. Besides I said the new testament gives Jesus' genealogy up to Adam and that information does not reflect even a 100 thousand years. cloudstar: of course you'll find a Mercedes if you won the lottery. Like I said you lack complete knowledge of evolution. You agreed in a previous post that humans adapt to their environment, now you'll have to explain that. If a Mercedes could just appear out of thin air you'll officially be the next Houdini. What if I said yes in 250 million years you will find a Mercedes SLR in that garage, would you argue that. Hahaha you are a classic joker its quite apparent that this argument is going nowhere. please stick to your ideals. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 9:22pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
cloudstar: cloudstar like I said evolution is a young science and therefore not extensive research has been done. just as the foundation, theories and equations for chemistry were laid down centuries ago, so are we laying the foundation and grid for evolution. it seems you skipped biology lessons in school because last time I checked biology is firmly built on evolution and disproving evolution also disproves biology. you can check out what plant angiosperms evolved from biologically and quote it right here. cloudstar: hahaha, but you failed too see that this verse basically puts all beasts of the earth as one kind or family which is completely false. using this reasoning a bear and a tiger can copulate. "everything that creeps on the ground" is not a classification for animal or insects in any way. I can't believe you refuse to comprehend evolution but put your faith in such nonsense. cloudstar: but the bible just said everything that creeps on earth is of the same kind. remember the bible made it clear not to corrupt god's work. if this is the Bible's classification of animals, then I think it requires a well deserved update. cloudstar: I told you that text was never from Wikipedia but directly from an archeological site. this shows you never even read the text but just rushed to Make comments cloudstar: of course it will make a difference. you need to prove your assertions just as you have requested proofs from me. so I can also safely conclude that it wouldn't make any difference explaining myself if you are skeptic from the start. Seed-making in flowering plants is a little more complicated. Most flowers contain both male and female sex cells. The typical flower has four main parts: an outer cup of leaflike sepals, a ring of petals within the sepals, and inside, male reproductive organs surrounding female parts. Male cells develop in structures called stamens and travel enclosed in the hard shell of pollen grains. Female cells, or ovules, develop deep in a flower's ovary, enclosed in a structure called a pistil. The top of the pistil-known as the stigma-is long and sticky and a good target for pollen. After it reaches the stigma, a small tube grows out of the pollen grain. The male cells travel down the pollen tube, eventually reaching female ovules. Then fertilization occurs and seeds start to grow. Since flowers possess both male and female parts, some flowers can fertilize themselves (or fertilize another flower on the same plant), which is called self-pollination. Or the ovules of one flower may be fertilized by the pollen of a different flowering plant of the same species, a method called cross- pollination. The wind, water, insects, and other animals help to carry pollen from one flower to another. Cross-pollination usually produces a better plant: the offspring of cross- pollination possesses the genetic traits of two parents, which may give it new characteristics that will help it survive in an always-changing environment. Cross-pollination is so desirable, in fact, that many flowering plants have developed different ways to keep self-pollination from happening. In the flowers of a spiderwort plant, for example, the stamens are ready to release pollen grains before the pistils are ready to accept them, so the pollen has to travel to other spiderwort plants in search of a ripe pistil. I don't really see the relevance of this question. you should know that there are plants which don't produce seeds. cloudstar: You have answered my question - since you are not all knowing; you can't claim there is God. You can't decide with your limited knowledge and within the confines of biblical teachings that a God is feasible and does exist. My stand is simple - the biblical explanation is not plausible as it leaves major gaps on our origin. Also, evolution can be proven scientifically as it is the basis of biology. like I said evolution is a relatively new field compared to other well established fields such as chemistry. we need more critics like you to enable use research extensively and build up evolutionary science into a separate discipline. cloudstar: not just evolution but core science such as physics is based on the big bang. with that knowledge I guess you should be able to address what, who and how god came into existence because as you said something can't come out of nothing. I want you to quote exactly where the big bang was compared to a nuclear bomb, I guess your problem is you lack an understanding of science completely. a tornado rather increases entropy that's the only similarity it shares with the big bang. At this point, I have to refer you to a psychologist because its apparent you are comparing science to magic. evolution occurs in living cells, and no one ever said it involves order so you can keep shaking that Rolex for a gazillion years and nothing will change. cloudstar: just as I said you should be able to explain god and his existence because I still can't believe you requiring evidences and proofs for evolution yet believe in something as unfeasible as god. the earth is not fine tuned perfectly for human existence, we have adapted to the all treacherousness and ills of the earth and fine tuned ourselves to exist here, and now with technology we're doing that much faster than ever before. like I said you confuse evolution for magic, you can't just change a fish into human. that is the job of nature, the environment and mutation. so far a lot of success has been achieved on mutation studies, I am sure you've seen insects with legs on their heads instead of antennas on their heads created in the lab. that is just the tip of the iceberg on mutation. evolution is different fom coventional sciences as it requires the effects of time, a lot of time. if you want to see evolution in action, you can decide to live for a million years. now I want you to explain the elephant man based on an intelligent design and God's perfection. cloudstar: you see evolution is already established, you not accepting it doesn't change a thing. with more research and outstanding studies being carried out on evolution, I am positive that future generations and even your children will accept evolution. if only we could make cells replicate at a very fast rate and in the required conditions, we can watch evolution in action. for now that is impossible but I am positive your descendants will enjoy that privilege. cloudstar: they were African natives in Niger. their records showed they did evolved from an apelike creature. their offsprings looked like the average African child. cloudstar: please, do prove your assertion, because the biblical genealogy of Jesus never pointed to that. you said you can't prove God's existence or creation yet you want to use historical accounts to evaluate the earth's age since creation, wow. like you said since nothing can create nothing, it is safe to assume god is nonexistent else you should be able to explain god's source. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 7:09am On Aug 22, 2014 |
cloudstar: you haven't explained the success of evolution in biology cos last time I checked biology is based on evolution and its success is a logical evidence. why don't you start a biological field based solely on creationism. cloudstar: the science of evolution is very easy to understand except your brain is choked. as you have pointed out yourself, a lion and a tiger can produce an offspring, being of the same evolutionary ancestor. this however disproves the biblical notion of every animal independently created by god. its funny how you mentioned you only believe in proven yet you believe all the bedtime stories in the bible which are utmost crap. cloudstar: that quote is not from wikipedia, it is from an archeological website. this shows you never even read the text but swiftly refuted it. cloudstar: I told you I have also seen a paralyzed woman walk with electrical stimulation so what is your point. do you have any recording of the incidence, please do share. you also should be able to explain why people are born with deformities from a biblical and creationist stance. cloudstar: I never claimed to know all and science is an aptitude that involves constant learning and research to gain more knowledge on a subject. me not knowing simply does not imply the presence of a creator but rather a quest to answer our existence which so far evolution has proved to be outstanding. based on that reasoning, there isn't proof for god either and from the same logical reasoning, you can't eliminate evolution either. cloudstar:unfortunately it was such a remote location and I had no charge on my phone. but not to worry there are other videos online of the evolving human structure and frame. cloudstar:come on, you should be able to give a biblical evidence for that. I also want to know if the bible talks about the meteor which hit the earth. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 7:55am On Aug 21, 2014 |
cloudstar: diarra94just as you have put your faith in the bible which was written by men like you and i. hello, we are on a forum, if not text and images what do you want me to use? a 3d printer? cloudstar: then are you insinuating that the bible was never edited or translated and it's content is accurate. if so you should be able to give substantial evidences. cloudstar:I never shied away from your request, I quoted a text from an archeology site but you dismissed it. cloudstar:then why have you been unable to highlight any form of miracle you have observed excluding those in the bible cloudstar:but then from a logical stance, there isnt proof for god either. if god really created the earth I don't think the bible is necessary. from the same logical reasoning, you can't eliminate evolution either. cloudstar:I told them that Jesus is their lord and personal saviour even though he never knew of the existence of subsaharan Africa. but they rather got mad and told me the story of how their ancestors evolved even showing me the skeletons of their ancestors clearly depicting the change in skull size and backbone structure. when I insisted that god created humans from clay and air without water or blood they took their weapons and chased me out. cloudstar: then based on your understanding of the bible, how old is the earth? if you also don't mind shelling the old earth theory. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Us Journalist Beheaded Live On Tv!! by diarra94(m): 2:57am On Aug 21, 2014 |
ByfireByfire:do you know the number of people that were killed during the height of Christianity in Europe based on biblical teachings. if not for science introducing some intelligence to humans, I bet you same thing will still be occuring today. go figure 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 2:49am On Aug 21, 2014 |
cloudstar: its now pretty clear you know nothing about evolution. I tried coming down to your level but its of no use to someone already brainwashed by the bible. why would they change from birds to reptiles? please go and study evolution because at this point, i understand that you have no idea of evolution but yet dismissed it. you can check out the island of Galapagos on Google and if you can explain to me how that happen, please do. I can't keep uploading images and quoting texts which you just dismiss without proof. cloudstar:yes I knew you'll bring that up, but this is the source from which Wikipedia got the text. irr.org , if you are unreasonable enough to ask me such a question, I think its only fair for me to be also unreasonable... please can you find all the ancient manuscripts and compare its accuracy with the Bible and tell me how many times the bible was translated before it was finally translated into English. cloudstar:personally, I have also seen a crippled woman walk with artificial legs so I don't know what you mean?? cloudstar:okay then a logical proof. cloudstar: they tried to kill me, so I came to you to explain that to me with your bible. regarding your previous argument this is a text from a christian website supporting that the earth is not more than 6,000 years old. " The genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 goes from Jesus to Adam, a period of 4000 years showing the total age of the earth to be just over 6000 years. Young earth creationists readily accept the fact that the earth is a sphere; God “sitteth upon the circle of the earth” (Isaiah 40.22). But they will not believe the sun orbits the earth daily: “when the sun riseth” (2 Samuel 23:4). “the earth abideth forever.” (Eccl 1:4) The earth is stationary in the center of the universe. They believe one circle, but not the other." geocentricbible.com 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Us Journalist Beheaded Live On Tv!! by diarra94(m): 4:15pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
AtheistD:I am not just referring to the violence but also the unreasonable ideologies and information both religions convey. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 3:31pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Gold45: can you point exactly to where I insinuated that? Gold45:dinosaurs were not more complex than other animals but were much more larger. reasons for which herbivorous dinosaurs such as the diplodocus were humongous include: 1. during the Jurassic period there were abundant trees and plants and therefore a surplus source of food meant larger sizes 2. dinosaurs were cold blooded animals and therefore larger sizes had no effect on their body temperature and chemistry. 3. the fact that they laid eggs eliminated the stress of birthing large offsprings. 4. to have the edge in predation. now, you should know evolution is driven by change, and animals like sharks, crocs and many other snakes have not evolved for up to 400 million years simply because they do not need to evolve as they have the available body parts and adaptions to exist in their environment. mammals, being warm blooded animals, could not evolve into much larger creatures and therefore became smaller to hide from the rampant predation. FYI mammals were not the only animals during the Jurassic period as they were reptiles, birds(mostly dinosaurs), and many creatures in the ocean. why do you keep asking me questions that you can easily find answers to on Google? |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 2:24pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: really? I can't just go about saying things just because I have faith....if the Holyspirit leads me,I will definitely do it...its not about exercising the faith in a negative waydon't deceive yourself, Jesus never gave any condition for this action. with so much problems in Nigeria the least you can do is destroy boko haram or the host of problems plaguing Nigeria. how can you do something negative in the name of god? is god blind or stupid? |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 1:46pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: yeah ofcourse I do have faith o...and a perfect reality of the Bible is Israel..and Jerusalem,you just have to read the story of Israel?according to Mathew 21:21 " Jesus replied, "Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done.". in essence, according to Jesus you can do supernatural and humanly impossible actions if you have faith. if you can't do any of these, you lack faith. and without faith you will burn in hell. now I want to ask you, can you do what Jesus just mentioned above? If you can't I am sorry to tell you that god has probably enlisted your name as a fuel source for hell. |
Religion / Re: Everyone Is Bound For Hell, Except...... by diarra94(m): 1:24pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
hahaha, Christians, funny set of people. I should tell you though you are all going to burn in hell, according to Jesus himself? |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 1:20pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: they r not kid stories....The work oF God cannot be understood ordinarily...but by Faith,that's why the Bible says:Faith is the sunstance of things Hoped for and the evidence of things not seen...u don't have to see it to believe whether it happened or not.....when you go from ordinary to spiritual,you will really understand the works of God....you see every proof for the bible can only be found in the bible. lemme tell you something, if god really created the earth, he wouldn't require the bible to prove anything as the world itself would be a proof. I want to ask you this: do you have faith? |
Religion / Re: Jesus Is A Liar by diarra94(m): 1:17pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
please don't tell me people still believe in that whole Jesus is coming bullshit... let me tell you guys even if Jesus comes today you are all going to burn in hell. this is according to the Jesus himself |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 1:03pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: which people? What do yuh mean?all people who believe in the funny kid stories in the bible such as god destroying the tower of babel, Adam and Eve, how Noah successfully gathered all the animals and insects in the world into his ark, I don't know if he also carried bacteria , algae and other microorganisms. please don't deceive yourself,the same white man that brainwashed you with the bible is now throwing that idea out the window. |
Religion / Re: See Why You Can't Argue With A Christian by diarra94(m): 12:48pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
bro... I love what you've done here. sometimes I feel it is a task for me to un-brainwash the African man because I can't believe someone who believes that god created different languages because some primitive people were trying to build a tower to the heavens will achieve any meaningful development which such limited reasoning. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Us Journalist Beheaded Live On Tv!! by diarra94(m): 12:35pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
its about time Jesus and Mohammed are brought to book for what they have done to earth. these two bastard have ruined our existence. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 12:20pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Gold45:most mammals that existed with the dinosaurs were little rats and other primitive rodents. their relatively small size enabled them to hide and easily remain unnoticeable by the large carnivores. it was until dinosaurs were destroyed by the meteor that these smaller rodents had the whole world to themselves and evolved into the more complex mammals we have today. the dinosaurs will have led early man to extinction due to many reasons which include: 1. being primitive meant we lacked any sophisticated form of weaponry, and shelter and therefore an encounter with a dangerous animal such as a dinosaur will most likely have a fatal ending. 2. we aren't fast enough to outrun these animals 3. we were very few in number and probably hadn't established ourselves on all continents yet. 4. we would have existed in a hunter gatherer society which meant serious competition for food. this does not mean that humans didn't stand a chance but if we were alive when the meteor hit the earth, it would have also wiped us out. so to sum things up, the meteor that exterminated the dinosaurs actually worked in our favour. what do you mean by acting mature? you've never been in an argument before? |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 10:31am On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: The Bible is the only Book that is always read by millions of people around the world: every day,every hour,every minute and every second.....and that's why people who read the bible remain in thecworst possible conditions on earth. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 10:23am On Aug 20, 2014 |
cloudstar: cloudstar this is from wikipedia " Human papillomavirus (HPV) infection appears to be involved in the development of more than 90% of cases. Most people who have had HPV infections; however, do not develop cervical cancer. Other risk factors include: smoking, a weak immune system , birth control pills , starting sex at a young age and having many sexual partners, but these are less important." however this Is just one of several cancers. "Most cancers are thought to arise from a single mutant precursor cell. As that cell divides, the resulting 'daughter' cells may acquire different mutations and different behaviors over a period of time. Those cells that gain an advantage in division or resistance to cell death will tend to take over the population. In this way, the tumor cells are able to gain a wide range of capabilities that are not normally seen in the healthy version of the cell type. Mutations in key regulatory genes (tumor suppressors and proto- oncogenes) alter the behavior of cells and can potentially lead to the unregulated growth seen in cancer. For almost all types of cancer studied to date, it seems as if the transition from a normal, healthy cell to a cancer cell is step-wise progression that requires genetic changes in several different oncogenes and tumor suppressors. This is one reason why cancer is much more prevalent in older individuals. In order to generate a cancer cell, a series of mutations must occur in the same cell." culled from cancerquest.org cloudstar: and yet prominent scientists and astronomers like Galileo were arrested for proposing the earth orbited the sun which was against the Bible's teaching of the earth being the centre of the universe. cloudstar:you ignored my question " I asked you of adaptation and you mentioned the internet, is adaptation a human creation? like I said racial differences have been the root of most wars in history, if the bible is really a form of guidance for humans don't you think the bible would have addressed the issue of race and adaptation, the Bible's failure in doing that discredits its importance." cloudstar: So, if I make anyone accurate scientific proof that is found in the Bible, then it makes the Bible a scientific master-price? For the last time, stop arguing from silence, it makes you look very stupi.dyes cloudstar:then why don't you give me any biblical proof that suggests humans existed for over 250 million years. cloudstar: just as you weren't there to see god create the earth cloudstar: this is a quote from bigcatrescue.org "Since lions and tigers do not exist in the same areas, this is not something that happens in the wild. It is done in captivity by disreputable carnies to produce a freak that ignorant people will pay to see. These cats suffer from many birth defects and usually die young. Because ligers are usually larger than either parent, it also puts the tigress at great risk in carrying the young and may require C-section deliveries or kill her in the process." bottom line is that its unnatural. FYI this is possible because they are of the same family, try that with a fish and a lion. I wouldn't mate with an ape not because it is impossible but unnatural just as a gorilla wouldn't naturally mate with a chimpanzee. cloudstar:Of course, that is a reasoble step, creationism has no place in an educational institution. evolution has proven to be successful in biology and essentially all spheres of life. if you can use your creation ideologies to explain any feasible phenomenon, please the stage is yours!! cloudstar: what I was going at is the fact that testing drugs on animals to determine their effects effects on humans destroys the biblical notions that humans are unique. cloudstar: please can you upload the images of the cave paintings you are talking about? cloudstar: Regarding the images you posted below - can you please show me proof of any of those stages as they changed. Are there any documented changes i.e. evidence of how one fish grew legs and how man came from the fish. Remember, this is science, we should be able to observe it and possibly reproduce it. I will find it sad that your only proof is a picture taken from an evolution website. some of this creatures are extinct but their fossils were perfectly preserved. if you find that to complex for your understanding, below is an image depicting the different stages of a frog's development. cloudstar: There are many religious calendars in existence, but each is normally in use in one region of the world -- typically by followers of a single religion. Almost all of the world's religious calendars are based on religion, astrology, or myth: The Baha'i calendar is based on the date that the Bab declared that a new manifestation of God would appear. The Creativity Movement , a racist, sexist and homophobic religious group, bases their calendar on the date when their religious book was published. The Hindu calendar is based on a planetary alignment in 3102 BCE. The Jewish calendar is based on their belief in the date of creation. The Mayan calendar was based on the day that they believed that Venus was born. The Muslim calendar is based on year of the hegira -- the flight of Muhammad from Mecca to Medina. this Is a quote from religioustolerance.org The AD/BC notation was first proposed by the monk Dionysius Exiguus (Dennis the Little) in the year 525 CE. He used it to identify the years in the Easter tables that he prepared. He did not use the notation to date historical events. "Dionysius implied, but never stated, that Jesus was born 25 December 1 BC ."The basis on which he linked the divide between BC and AD to the birth of Jesus is unknown. There is general agreement that he guessed incorrectly. Most theologians and religious historians believe that Yeshua of Nazareth (Jesus) was born during a Fall -- or less likely during a Spring, sometime between 7 and 4 BCE. However, we have seen estimates as as early as the second century BCE and as late as 4 CE. "Another calculation had been developed by the Alexandrian monk Annianus around the year AD 400, placing the Annunciation on March 25, AD 9 (Julian) -- exactly 8 years after the date that Dionysius later calculated. This Era of Incarnation was dominant in the East during the early centuries of the Byzantine Empire, and is still used today in Ethiopia, accounting for the 8 or 7-year discrepancy between the Gregorian and the Ethiopian calendar."The Anno Domini era became dominant in Western Europe only after it was used by the Venerable Bede to date the events in his Ecclesiastical History of the English People , completed in 731" CE."Even though Anno Domini was in widespread use by the ninth century [CE] Before Christ (or its equivalent) did not become widespread until the late fifteenth century....In 1422 [CE], Portugal became the last country of western Europe to adopt the Anno Domini ..." notation. you seem to be getting pretty aggressive and insulting but I don't mind.
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Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 7:41am On Aug 20, 2014 |
cloudstar: cloudstar haha, then, you just made yourself clearer, I can't put my faith in a belief that cannot be proven. only evolution can explain the diversity of animals on the islands of Galapagos. go figure. cloudstar:these are quotes from wikipedia made by archeologist studying ancient manuscripts: "Every year, several New Testament manuscripts handwritten in the original Greek format are discovered. The latest substantial find was in 2008, when 47 new manuscripts were discovered in Albania ; at least 17 of them unknown to Western scholars. [5] When comparing one manuscript to another, with the exception of the smallest fragments, no two copies agree throughout. There has been an estimate of 400,000 variations among all these manuscripts (from the 2nd to 15th century which is more than there are words in the New Testament. Somewhere variations involve apparently intentional changes, which often make more difficult a determination of whether they were corrections from better exemplars, harmonizations between readings, or ideologically motivated. Palaeography is the study of ancient writing, and textual criticism is the study of manuscripts in order to reconstruct a probable original text. An important issue with manuscripts is preservation." "The earliest New Testament manuscripts were written on papyrus ,made from a reed that grew abundantly in the Egyptian Nile. Delta. This tradition continued as late as the 8th century. Papyrus eventually becomes brittle and deteriorates with age. The dry climate of Egypt allowed some papyrus manuscripts to be partially preserved, but, with the exception of P 77, no New Testament papyrus manuscript is complete; many consist only of a single fragmented page." cloudstar: I asked for any miracles or signs the bible talks about in reality or which you have observed yourself. cloudstar: I gave you an open field. cloudstar:I asked how do you explain the savages and isolated tribes of Africa and south America who have no concept of life if we came from Adam and eve? |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 7:35am On Aug 20, 2014 |
Gold45:hey gold, sorry to burst your bubble but not all dinosaurs were carnivorous. do you think these conclusions are just made. look at the structure and dentition of a whale , an elephant and a giraffe and tell me if it is modified for hunting or tearing flesh. dinosaurs like t Rex were natural predators with huge teeth for tearing flesh and claws to grasp prey. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 4:17am On Aug 20, 2014 |
cloudstar: cloudstarthe same way you can't find evidences for creation except in the bible. of course not everything in science can be proven with the knowledge available but that doesn't mean its not true. afterall the earth was thought to be in the centre of the universe or even flat until scientist in the past centuries disproved that idea. cloudstar: the bible itself is made up of all those manuscripts which were written in ancient calligraphy and on poor paper such that people trying to interprete the writings had troubles understanding and translating the words. some kings and monarchs even changed complete books or chapters to favour their ideas. cloudstar:just as I said, the bible can only be proved by the rubbish it contains. After all these, Hitler murdered over 6 million jews like it was a walk in the park. a holocaust survivor was interviewed and he said many people prayed to god before being thrown into the gas chambers. after finally realising that that there was no way out and this was the end, they cried "there is no god". cloudstar:any please if you may? cloudstar:I just need you to answer the question. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 3:39am On Aug 20, 2014 |
cloudstar: diarra94I am sorry but arguing with you is of no profit to me. I can't believe you just said cancer is a viral disease , you better log off NL and go learn more about cancer. your arguments are solely based on science and even the dates provided by archeologist but you're trying to disprove science . I asked you of adaptation and you mentioned the internet, is adaptation a human creation? like I said racial differences have been the root of most wars in history, if the bible is really a form of guidance for humans don't you think the bible would have addressed the issue of race and adaptation, the Bible's failure in doing that discredits its importance. you see if you claim humans were in existence 250 million years you have automatically disproved the bible which doesn't account for humans existing over 6000 years ago. a DNA sequence between the DNA if a man and that of a monkey showed very little variations in what we call switches. people find it offensive that we came from apes but if god really created humans why do humans still have ape features . every part of our body seems to be an modification of the apes body form. if god really created man in his image, then god himself must look like an ape . I wouldn't take an ape as a wife just as a lion wouldn't mate with a cheetah and a tilapia wouldn't mate a catfish even though they're of thesame family . your arguments wouldn't change the fact that evolution rather than creation is used in all forms of biology which clearly evident, has been very successful. if god really made man unique, why do we test drugs and many other science experiments on apes before concluding if it safe for human use.
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Science/Technology / Re: 11 Things That NASA Discovered About The Moon That You Never Knew by diarra94(m): 4:33am On Aug 19, 2014 |
[quote author=Royalprestidge][/quote]if god relates to them accordingly then why did you drop your ancestral ways for Christianity. |
Science/Technology / Re: 11 Things That NASA Discovered About The Moon That You Never Knew by diarra94(m): 10:44pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
bushdoc9919:I never said Galileo was the first to propose the earth's orbit around the sun. but he developed the first telescope and therefore studied the night sky before he supported heliocentrism. the church back then only stood in favor of geocentrism or the tychonic system and therefore Galileo's assertions were disposed. this is a quote from Wikipedia " The matter was investigated by the Roman Inquisition in 1615, which concluded that heliocentrism was false and contrary to scripture, placing works advocating the Copernican system on the index of banned books and forbidding Galileo from advocating heliocentrism". this led Galileo to write one of his books titled "Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems" in which he tried to defend his stance. Galileo was sentenced of heresy as this quote from history.com shows " This time, Galileo's technical argument didn't win the day. On June 22, 1633, the Church handed down the following order: Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzio Galilei, of Florence, aged seventy years, were denounced in 1615, to this Holy Office, for holding as true a false doctrine taught by many, namely, that the sun is immovable in the center of the world, and that the earth moves, and also with a diurnal motion; also, for having pupils whom you instructed in the same opinions; also, for answering the objections which were continually produced from the Holy Scriptures, by glozing the said Scriptures according to your own meaning; and whereas thereupon was produced the copy of a writing, in form of a letter professedly written by you to a person formerly your pupil, in which, following the hypothesis of Copernicus, you include several propositions contrary to the true sense and authority of the Holy Scriptures; therefore (this Holy Tribunal being desirous of providing against the disorder and mischief which were thence proceeding and increasing to the detriment of the Holy Faith) by the desire of his Holiness and the Most Eminent Lords, Cardinals of this supreme and universal Inquisition, the two propositions of the stability of the sun, and the motion of the earth, were qualified by the Theological Qualifiers as follows: 1. The proposition that the sun is in the center of the world and immovable from its place is absurd, philosophically false, and formally heretical; because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scriptures. 2. The proposition that the earth is not the center of the world, nor immovable, but that it moves, and also with a diurnal action, is also absurd, philosophically false, and, theologically considered, at least erroneous in faith. Therefore . . . , invoking the most holy name of our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Most Glorious Mother Mary, We pronounce this Our final sentence: We pronounce, judge, and declare, that you, the said Galileo . . . have rendered yourself vehemently suspected by this Holy Office of heresy, that is, of having believed and held the doctrine (which is false and contrary to the Holy and Divine Scriptures) that the sun is the center of the world, and that it does not move from east to west, and that the earth does move, and is not the center of the world; also, that an opinion can be held and supported as probable, after it has been declared and finally decreed contrary to the Holy Scripture, and, consequently, that you have incurred all the censures and penalties enjoined and promulgated in the sacred canons and other general and particular constituents against delinquents of this description. From which it is Our pleasure that you be absolved, provided that with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, in Our presence, you abjure, curse, and detest, the said error and heresies, and every other error and heresy contrary to the Catholic and Apostolic Church of Rome. Along with the order came the following penalty: "We order that by a public edict the book of Dialogues of Galileo Galilei be prohibited, and We condemn thee to the prison of this Holy Office during Our will and pleasure; and as a salutary penance We enjoin on thee that for the space of three years thou shalt recite once a week the Seven Penitential Psalms." Galileo agreed not to teach the heresy anymore and spent the rest of his life under house arrest. It took more than 300 years for the Church to admit that Galileo was right and to clear his name of heresy." lastly , I never said he was given a cruel trial or prison sentence. |
Science/Technology / Re: 11 Things That NASA Discovered About The Moon That You Never Knew by diarra94(m): 12:19pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
Royalprestidge: Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law. Science will always be confronted with puzzles, those puzzles are evidence that God rules the universe. Any prophet Isaiah in Book said 'God sits on the circle of earth' , this tells us that earth is spherical even before scientist said it.a puzzle doesn't mean the mechanics of a system is not studyable or incomprehensible but the amount of information and knowledge available cannot properly explain it. after all we have been solving puzzles throughout our existence. today we all profit from the many puzzles solved by science such as being able to treat diseases. unimaginable numbers of humans died during the peak of the religious era but until science came into the picture religion was completely useless against all the numerous challenges faced by this people. our ancestors lived life before the missionaries... explain that?? |
Science/Technology / Re: 11 Things That NASA Discovered About The Moon That You Never Knew by diarra94(m): 12:08pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
Tonylyte:show me where the bible said that. Galileo Galilei's life was in danger from the priest an church community because he proposed that the earth orbited the sun. you are actually the one deceiving yourself, you believe in a deity which was forcefully incorporated into your brain which your ancestors existed happily without. |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 12:54am On Aug 18, 2014 |
cloudstar: diarra94you are completely using science to prove your assertions. bible doesn't fhucking talk about adapting to our environment?? don't say that's irrelevant because most problems in history are based on race. wow you just made a statement out of your own will, how can you say humans dont mutate?? explain cancer to me then. if we humans stay in our respective environments for more prolonged periods of time, there will be more apparent differences between us. I asked you about dinosaurs to test your level of intelligence but it turns out its not that great. dinosaurs existed everywhere on earth and being such vicious and large carnivores, primitive humans stood no chance against them. they would have devoured humans to extinction. the bible mentioned many animals which were much less threats but not once was the dinosaur described. explain how such a prominent animal was ignored in the flawed bible. just as there is very little genetic difference between humans and apes. of course there will be only physical difference between humans or were you expecting our genetic composition to change due to a hundred years of isolation on different continents. I don't care about a report by Reuters , so does one man's flawed understanding of the human genome have to be used to disprove proven facts. honestly people like you who feel they know everything even without proof are the cause of Africa's stagnant development. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 11:55pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
cloudstar: diarra94look, if einsteins theory wasn't practical I wouldn't have cared about him or his work. but when you talk about the Bible, a book that has been rewritten by so many different writers who have altered and changed so many times due to the fact that the writers had little understanding of the language or the manuscripts were old and the writings were hard to read. some even changed the words in the manuscripts to suite their personal needs. here's a question for you, have you seen the bible doing any of what it claims to do? yet you seem to blindly accept it. everything in the world disproves the existence of god. why don't you give me a single non biblical proof of God's existence. you also haven't answered my question, how do you explain the existence of savages in most part of the world before colonialism. 1 Like |
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