₦airaland Forum

tdayof: Do you know what Hong Kong is?
Honk Kong is a region in china though she has her own leader bt the President of china has total control same as Macau

Do you know what China is? It's a country included in the list I posted. And I have been to China. So take it easy with the lectures. Stick to the point being debated.

Why should SA not be compared to China? Classified in the same category they are. SA beats China on some measures too.

tdayof: Dude am not saying south Africa ain't industrious... my fact is that d rate and level of industries in south Africa is not up to that of Russia or china!!!

Use the correct term, please. Industrialised. The only NIC in Africa.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/newly-industrialized-country.asp

Investopedia explains 'Newly Industrialized Country - NIC'

In the 1970s and 1980s, examples of newly industrialized countries included Hong Kong, South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan. Examples in the late 2000s included South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, China, India, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand and Turkey.

tdayof: Pictures or I don't believe.
My fact still stays!
Let SA keep dreaming
Joseph jnr

You surely don't want the thread to be full of pictures, do you? You're joking. Listen, ignorance is bliss.

agaugust: The only pilots we know to be far below their flight hours of training are your SAAF unqualified Gripen jet pilots
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Then I doubt the level of your knowledge. The question is: how may flight hours for each of those accidents waiting to happen? Answer or allow us to conclude that you were talking nons.ense.

tdayof: sharapp liarrr... see as u are talking comparing SA to russia m china..
SA shud b compared with tanzania....namibia

Happily look at this map of NICs and then tell us why SA cannot be compared to China. Educated people already do. SA is not Nigeria. Stick to your lane.

fydence: Reaallly?...u want the stories of all the recruits who hve been 'drilled' dogg.y style by ur HIV invested 'drill sergents'? Just to fruitlessly cure ur irredeemable ignorance No I'll pass...
Pls read this slowly and say after me: Your...Ignorance...is ..not...my Headache.! Good boy..now fetch!

I say it again. You wanna tumble in the mud, I can bring it. You wanna debate, I can bring it too. The choice is yours. Ready when you are.

Like I said, you want to tumble in the mud, I will bring it. You want to debate, I will bring it. You choose.

One instance of butthurt at a time.

Centrifude: This guy should come back when Nigeria actually has Rape and Crime statistics, its very easy for someone to talk crap, when almost 90% of the crimes that happen in their country go unreported, the only thing S.A is guilty of is being honest about what's happening in our country. Crime in Nigeria has become a normal way of life, that why most of them can't even recognise it. South Africans record almost everything that happens.

No need for their stats, which don't exist. It's all in black and white for their reading pleasure. Legalised rap*, prostitution and s*x slavery in one.

https://za.news.yahoo.com/nigerian-child-bride-shame-married-divorced-14-134527204.html

Nigerian Child Bride Shame: Married And Divorced By 14

Fourteen-year old Maimuna Abdullahi was married off when she was 13-years old, and divorced her husband after she ran away a year later. But Maimuna’s case is just one of hundreds of thousands across Nigeria, where girls become ‘child brides’ from as young as nine-years old.

According to Australia’s news.com.au, Maimuna’s father arranged the marriage in 2012 with his best friend’s eldest son. The son, Mohammadu Saidu, was twice Maimuna’s age and paid a $210 ( about R2 225) naira (dowry) for her.

He was quoted as saying Maimuna was disobedient and too educated, and his next wife will be younger:

“This time I will marry a girl of 12, so that she will do what I want to do,” he said. “Because if you marry a girl who is older, then she will not listen to you.”

“If she is educated, she will be looking down on me because I didn’t go to school, so she will be the husband and I will be the wife,” he added.

This is the norm for Nigerian girls, particularly in the north-east of the country where Islamist militants Boko Haram are wreaking havoc as they seek to impose an Islamic state. According to the United Nations, one in five girls are married off before they turn 15-years old. But in the north-east, this figure rises to one in two.

Boko Haram abducted nearly 300 girls from their school in April, and there are reports that some of the girls have already been sold into marriage and slavery for $12 (about R127).

Saidu said he waited the customary three months to make sure Maimuna was not pregnant before he divorced her. According to sharia or Islamic law, a man may divorce his wife by declaring it out loud three times.

As for Maimuna, she said she would like to have an education to back her up in her future:

“I pray that what I have done will help the younger ones, that my parents learn from the experience of my running away from home,” she was quoted as saying.

“I don’t know what I want to be when I grow up but, even if I get married, I want have some education to back me up.”

Bedtime reading.

http://blogs.cfr.org/campbell/2014/09/16/the-military-balance-in-northeast-nigeria/

This is a guest post by Jim Sanders, a career, now retired, West Africa watcher for various federal agencies. The views expressed below are his personal views and do not reflect those of his former employers.

Boko Haram has moved beyond separate security incidents to a full-scale military campaign, the goal of which appears to be the capture of the Borno state capital of Maiduguri, a city with a population approaching two million. Though Boko Haram war lord Abubakar Shekau has proclaimed a “caliphate,” the movement’s focus appears still mainly to be on its military operations. Despite the caliphate declaration, there are no signs as yet that Boko Haram is ready to assume the heavy burden of governing the territories it occupies while it is pursuing Maiduguri, its most important military target. With respect to the territory it already occupies, Boko Haram may be taking a page from British colonial rule in northern Nigeria: conquer the towns, and then leave the local leadership in place, as long as it tows the line.

The campaign for Maiduguri may not be the turning point that some commentators suggest. From the beginning, Boko Haram has been fighting Abuja–the corrupt, Western-educated elites who have beggared the North. Boko Haram has followed a remarkably linear progression with very few setbacks and U-turns....

fydence: while a bigger fact is South Africa is the r:.ape and mur.der capital of the world where u cn be shot by ur lover in the bathroom...three Instances of Maximum Delusion.South Africa: A country of Lawless Psychos run by ANC Terrorists...mtshewww

The only country in the whole world that has legalised r*ape. Nigeria. The only fact here. Oh and yes, because boko haram's caliphates are
soooo in order.

One instance of butthurt at a time.

agaugust: Dude F-7 jet was Nigeria's stop gap from 2008 to 2014....six years.

No country uses Su-30 and JF-17 as stop gap measures.

NAF pilots have been training on 4th Generation aircraft in USA, Pakistan, and Belarus for many years before we received our Su-30 and JF-17.

We ordered JF-17 Thunder since 2012 and training was started then. We signed for Su-30 Flanker almost one year ago.

It took Israeli pilots less than 12 months to graduate from 3G Mirage jets to 4G F-16 jets.

For NAF pilots with 20 years combat experience with 3rd generation aircraft, 6 years experience with 3.5 generation aircraft, they will fly 4th generation aircraft in 9 months full training.

Nigerian pilots are not dullards like your South African mugus who are reputed as bottom ladder intelligence on planet earth
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NAF PILOTS TRAIN WITH AMERICANS ON USAF 4TH GENERATION LEAD IN JET FIGHTER FOR MANY YEARS PREPARING FOR TODAY
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Really dude? Like, really? Like how many flight hours for each of those accidents waiting to happen? How many?

fydence: Wow... What ur vegetable brain got from that post was that: That Post was about Zuma South Africa is truly a country of psychos lyk the one they put besyd obama...bwhahaha..
Your delusion is a world record and so is the delusion of that assembly of Old, broke and HiV RIDDEN ASSEMBLY OF BORDER POLICE you call ur Military...LMAOOO... Now u owe me points cos ur military scored -10 as a fighting force

And the only fact here is that in Nigeria, 14 year olds can be legally r*aped. And the other fact is that Nigeria is the only country in the world that allowed uneducated religious fanatics to become a fully fledged insurgency.

One instance of butthurt at a time.

fydence: OH! somehow from your Family Withcraft Coven you have counted and know all the Tourists that enter and leave Nigeria abi?? ode!

Very easy. Deal with the picture in front of you. No need to go crazy. Half the country is deemed a death pit as you can see for yourself.

fydence: No I meant more like how Zuma's military rape..s its recruits and is too broke to use condoms getting their fat bottoms pregnant and increasing their 25% HIV quota in ur clueless military...bwahahahah...hw exactly are u going to deal with boko haram?.by r..aping them to death?? Start with the Poachers....hahahaha

You are all over the place. More diatribe about Zuma now? I can happily remind you how 14 year olds can be legally r*aped in Nigeria? Like I said, you want butthurt, I can give it. You wanna argue and lose, I can bring it. Fact remains, no organised, civilised country would ever have allowed something as rag tag as Boko to happen. Not South Africa. Not anyone else. You get zero points as a country and zero points as a military.

Nigeria's lovely travel advisory. More than half the country covered.

agaugust: Tourists are all over the world, including Ukraine where World War III is showing it's shadows. Not only South Africa gets tourists in the middle of a big mess
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They are not in Nigeria, where travel warnings have been issued. Not in the numbers seen in SA. For 180 million people, you might as well have zero tourists.

agaugust: Dude, a 90 man tiny special force can only save you on one street at a time in Soweto. Fact is fact !
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But we do not need saving from anything beyond that. The fact here is that Nigeria in inadequately equipped for its challenges.

While we're on the topic, what will be done to these great men of Nigeria accused of sponsoring boko boke?

Nigerian Govt ‘pampering’ alleged Boko Haram sponsor, Sheriff — APC -


See more at: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/168226-nigerian-govt-pampering-alleged-boko-haram-sponsor-sheriff-apc.html#sthash.zNfKafeO.dpuf

The All Progressives Congress, APC, has accused the Peoples’ Democratic Party, PDP-led Federal Government of engaging in a systematic harassment of members of the opposition party, while at the same time shielding accused Boko Haram sponsor, Ali Modu Sheriff, from the law.

In a statement issued in Ilorin on Tuesday by its National Publicity Secretary, Lai Mohammed, the party specifically condemned the harassment and intimidation of Danjuma Goje of the APC during a visit to his constituency in Gombe this week.

It said even though Mr. Goje (a senator) had alerted the police authorities in the state of his visit and was provided with security, in the course of the visit, the policemen attached to him were suddenly withdrawn while he was directed to cut short his engagements to answer a summon by His Majesty the state Commissioner of Police.
- See more at: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/168226-nigerian-govt-pampering-alleged-boko-haram-sponsor-sheriff-apc.html#sthash.zNfKafeO.dpuf...

fydence: >>"HIV rates are as high as 25%"
>>"Parliament's Joint Standing Committee on Defence has described R.APE of women in the SANDF as COMMON..."
>>"...adding that MANY female recruits have been IMPREGNATED by their instructors"-(The stuff SA 'Drill' Sergents are made of...Nice 'drilling' hehehe.)
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SANDF: 'True' Professionals..too broke they cant afford Latex Condoms at least. Make una at least use cellophane tie una 'dundee' ni...bwahahaha

You mean like Nigeria has the highest infection rate in the world and highest number of kids living with HIV in the world? We arent even talking full stats yet, as you guys don't really know how to keep any? How does that grab ya?

fydence: therez nothing you can do to change Kia and other Car companies opening plants in Nigeria,
therez nothing you can do to stop animal thieves from ra.ping rhinos in kruger park playing 'catch me if you can' while at it...why are ur rhinos in botswana... If those thieves wanted to rape and kill ur men and women they wld do it freely...ooopps...South africa is already the ra.pe and m..urder capital of the WORLD..Deal with that my friend..hahah. Your broke and HIV ridden photoservice of a military cant handle boko haram if common theives have dribblied u and brought u to ur knees at ur best..what u console urself with as diatribe, is actually called DEFEAT.hahahaha...

Seems I'm dealing with a 15 year old. Seeing as you want to talk about cars, I am happy to tell you that South Africa built and profits from your car industry.

How about you add that onto you increasing butthurt? The rest of the diatribe is not worth my time. One butthurt at a time.

FighterPilot: WELL, BUT BOKO HAS ALREADY DENTED THE IMAGE OF YOUR MILITARY. THEY HAVE PINPOINTED ALL THE WEAKNESSES OF YOUR MILITARY, EXPLOITED IT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE AND HAVE EXPOSED THEM TO WHOLE WORLD TO SEE. NO STRONG ARMY IN THE WORLD CAN ALLOW INSURGENTS TO GRAB HOLD OF THEIR TERRITORY, ONLY THE WEAK WILL FALL.

IT DOES NOT, HOWEVER, HELP TO DO DAMAGE CONTROL NOW, SINCE THE HISTORY HAS ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN THAT ONCE UPON A TIME IN NIGERIA, INSURGENTS HAD AN UPPER HAND OVER THE ARMY AND GRABBED THE LAND BY FORCE. THAT REALITY WILL NEVER BE ERASED AND WILL GO DOWN TO THE ANNALS OF HISTORY WITH A HUGE EMBARRASSMENT.

http://news.yahoo.com/once-force-for-good--nigeria-s-military--through-militias--crosses-border-into-darkness-161348616.html

Once a force for good, Nigeria's military, through militias, crosses border into darkness

Every week a new atrocity seems to strike the people of Nigeria’s north, where government forces have fought a nearly five-year war with the Islamist militant group Boko Haram. The world’s attention briefly focused on Africa’s most populous, and one of its wealthiest, countries in April when Boko Haram — whose name crudely translates to “Western influence is sinful” — abducted 300 schoolgirls, apparently dispersing many to the service of leaders in its sphere of influence, which now stretches to neighboring Cameroon's border.

Boko Haram has been emboldened by the success of Islamic State, observers say, and like IS, the group has declared an intent to create a “caliphate,” a religious state where governing principles are interpreted from the Koran. In Boko Haram's case, the caliphate would be in Nigeria's north. The group has been known to massacre the inhabitants of entire small villages, using modern weapons or the ancient terror of beheading, and not sparing women or children.

The Nigerian military has sporadically tried to halt the group’s advance and had been regarded as a force for good. But now, as PBS FRONTLINE’s documentary, “Hunting Boko Haram,” chronicles in dozens of witness testimonials, video documentation and interviews, Nigeria's armed forces have crossed a boundary into darkness. As the raiser of militia groups under the two-year-old “Operation Flush,” Nigeria's army has trained, paid and haphazardly armed an amateur military that has become as deadly and feared a force as Boko Haram itself...

fydence: Your 'organized' society is the ra.pe and m.u.rder capital of the WORLD...ANC terrorists took over ur government..the tagged 'chief terrorist' became the President... Those are the facts...your blabbings arent worth a second look. Boko homos are being slaughtered everyday lyk Rhino poachers slaughter ur military men and animals and Dead shekau or his pseudo replacement isnt and never wld be the President of Nigeria...if u dont have the FACTS dont make mouth-FARTS all over this thread.

Tell that to the tourists streaming in, I say. Nothing you can do to change that. Remember you have formal red travel advisories against your country. South Africa does not. It is what it is. You were too disorganised to prevent Boko Haram. Now you want recognition for failing to crush Boko Haram. Funny how you guys "think". There never would've been Boko in SA. Your ANC diatribe is just that. Diatribe. Butthurt, in fact.

fydence: wow...this self illusion wld have bn ok only that years ago ANC was a considered a terrorist groupwith Mandela considered a terrorist himself ...and now guess who runs the country (woefully)..so tell me who won: ur military or the Terrorists??. Yea u dealt very well with urs insurgency...lolz

Rather ignorance on your part. Boko haram never would've happened in a more organised society, including SA. They would've gone the way of the boeremaag. Nothing special about boko haram, as your friend said earlier. Just that your society's disorganised. Your ANC diatribe is not worth a second look.

fydence: South Africa isnt even close to being safe.
Be it for Animals:

www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-25781746

Or for Humans:
www.sisterthunderradio.com/2014/08/31/reverse-racism-murder-rape-and-kidnapping-in-post-apartheid-south-africa/

So until u can deal with policing every sqaure inch of your country 100% in peace time, dont even attempt to think you know how to deal with an insurgency.

Why don't you tell that to the tourists steaming in and stop being desperate? We know exactly how to deal with insurgency. We prevent it like all civilised nations do. Nigeria knows only to try and put out unnecessary fires.

agaugust: Your own head itself is broken

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/09/missing-air-force-fighter-jet-found-crashed-adamawa/

American, European and Asian air force jets crash too....many times for unknown reasons.

South African air force crashes are many, you want me to start posting them here? Rhino poachers shot down SAAF helicopter !

.

Dude, this is speculation. Let's wait.

agaugust: The first twelve units were officially reported two weeks ago, but since then, the Su-30 and JF-17 plus Mi-35 and Mi-171 deliveries seems NOT to stop....NAF will be receiving almost 100 units of all these and other combat aircraft....

http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/top-stories/item/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode/14864-b-haram-fg-acquires-12-fighter-jets-sect-kills-14-in-borno-jonathan-african-leaders-in-kenya-over-terrorism-allegations-against-ihejirika-absurd-fani-kayode

Nigeria Now Has The Best Air Force In Africa !

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/JF17-10-114-1739.jpg
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So, we can now hope that the 50 women and children abducted this week will be found?

fydence: You can shamefully read here and update urself:
www.dailyindependentnig.com/2014/09/missing-airforce-fighter-jet-found-crashed-adamawa
Your ignorance is not my headache...

Your link is broken. Broken like the jet handling abilities of your military. I don't know which is worse. A jet crashing for no reason or a jet being shot down. So, does your broken link confirm that a) the jets are rubbish that just crashes for no reason, or b) that your pilots can't execute a simple mayday c) that your radars are rubbish d) that your pilots can't fly or d) all of the above?

While we're taking about it. 50 girls reportedly absented by boko.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/boko-haram-kidnaps-50-more-women-several-children/189157/

fydence: wow.. can u 'cheerfully' tell me the names of the 'frightening number' of towns ... Or u are quoting some reporter in london who never set foot in nigeria?

You can happily read here and deny the undeniable

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-189907/nigeria-military-says-one-its-warplanes-missing-boko-haram-territory

fydence: No we cant...because the 'lost' Jet actually crashed. And about the girls, even super powers lyk the US and UK failed to find any girls after their media noise. So whatz ur point?

Fyfence, you see now. No one knows what happened to the jet. Let's wait and see. The girls are Nigeria's baby. Not America's. The westerners didn't even have the freedom to do as they pleased. This is Nigeria's failure. Not the west's.

About the jet, let's wait. We'll see soon enough.