₦airaland Forum

fulaniHERDSman:
Are they nairaland monickers? Get lost my friend

I tire for the guy, na so dem insult me like say I b Buhari or Jonathan just because I called Jonathan coward. Them say for me to insult Jonathan I must be insulted.

I come dey wonder whether Jonathan is now a member of nairaland or wetin.

shamecurls:
How can A tout and intellectual disagree over economic issues! What does Fayose know about the economy? Does he think is about eating Ponmo or sharing rice for Ekiti people.

Aregbesola must have stooped very low to make Fayose assimilate his points.

Who is the economist among the two? guy I help you shame for where I dey, Jesus. So that mad man called Aregbesola that puts on rags is an economist and Osun State had been on recession even before Nigeria entered autopilot.









Shame catch me say me and u dey dsame forum because your reasoning on this matter na 170, 000000th position e take so

amunkita:
When we re talking of states in Nigeria, pls leave out ebonyi..

Obodo ringworm..

Current governor of Kano state and also the immediate passed governor of Sokoto State, Wamako was deputy to Bafarawa.

jpphilips:
our stolen funds

Please which one is stolen funds and which one is ours? Your papa land dey contribute dime to the national purse? ala ri wo

TijaniAbu:
Actually you are wrong. Charges of money laundering are the only charges in any country where the accuser does not have to prove guilt, in fact the accused must prove innocence. That is why the Fake Pastor and Dullardeen are so fond of alleging money laundering in their political witch hunts, weakening the EFCC's strength in their vendettas. Life is however a cycle, they too shall face the same charges. They cannot end well.

Please can you base your view on law, I am relying on section 35 and 36 of the constitution and it is a trite position as been crystallized by the various supreme court judgements; except you have different case law from Chad Republic. The position of the law remains innocence until proved otherwise by the prosecution and not by the accused. The onus is on he who alleges and not the reverse

rusher14:

EFCC doesn't need to prove jack.

I can as well lay claim to said money just like anybody in the world.

You getting it all wrong. The position of the law is that, the person alleging must prove first then the accused will now open his case and if he alleges otherwise then he proves. You can't bring someone to court and asked the person to prove ownership of money. Read the case of Wike v. Peterside where the Supreme court bashed the Court of appeal justices for moving the burden of proof to Wike. It is only the evidential burden that shifts.

TijaniAbu:
Actually you are wrong. Charges of money laundering are the only charges in any country where the accuser does not have to prove guilt, in fact the accused must prove innocence. That is why the Fake Pastor and Dullardeen are so fond of alleging money laundering in their political witch hunts, weakening the EFCC's strength in their vendettas. Life is however a cycle, they too shall face the same charges. They cannot end well.

Please can you base your view on law, I am relying on section 35 and 36 of the constitution and it is a trite position as been crystallized by the various supreme court judgements; except you have different case law from Chad Republic. The position of the law remains innocence until proved otherwise by the prosecution and not the accused. The onus is on he who alleges and not the reverse

Yyeske:
I hope you know same money we're talking about here can be investigated further by EFCC demanding for dates of lodgement and by whom and I'm sure they won't forget this since she said it belongs to her mother.

She is not under obligation to prove her innocence, the onus is on who who alleges fraud proceeds to prove same beyond reasonable doubt.
The charge sheet must contain the owner of the alleged money (fg) , how it was stolen, the date or period.
Then she will be asked to enter plea, anything short of the above means she will not enter plea, her lawyer will rather raise preliminary objection challenging the competency of court upon a frivolous charge sheet.

The question is, can efcc prove fg's ownership of the said money? The position of the law is that, the money or thing alleged to have been stolen shall:

1. Ownership (show it belongs to fg in this case
2. It must be something capable of being stolen
3. Stolen by the accused.

The question you should ask yourself Is, is there any account directly or Indirectly linked to the various accounts that belongs to federal government aside the fact that the money was deposited by Dudafa?

The onus is on the fg or efcc to prove ownership of that money then she will be called upon to open her case. Anything short of that amounts waste of time

Yyeske:
If the money belongs to her late mum, why was it lodged in other names and in phoney companies? Aside from one account traced to her, the rest wasn't in her name or her mom's name, what was she hiding if the source of money was legitimate?

The law allows one to entrust money on another. She said she entrusted the money on the man for possible payment of her medical bills. She was to refund the trust account and the beneficiaries of the trust account are not complaining, are they?

She got a sound Yoruba lawyer

Yyeske:
She brought this on herself, if only she kept quiet EFCC and now CCB won't be after her. She now have to prove how she earned that money and tell the world if it was declared before and after she left Aso Rock.

Some of you are been misled by APC propaganda as was perpetuated by Prof. Itsa Sagay. I don't know the law you are relying on to say that she should explain her source of income. Please don't be deceived by Itsa Sagay's sole view. No law in Nigeria requires the accused to explain or prove his innocence, the onus is on efcc to show that the money is a proceed of corruption and not the other way round. I refer you to section 35 and 36 of the Constitution.

The only place she is expected to explain in this case is at the CCT and it has to be the husband who made the declaration and not she. CCB & CCT doesn't have the balls to invite Jonathan and you know that.

Moreover, her lawyer had given her a leeway, that the money belongs to her late mother, she was holding the money in trust. The implication is that, she is not the owner, she was a mere trustee and such cannot be declared.

Wise lawyer she got!!!

If I insult Jonathan for bringing this disgrace to himself with his cowardice act some fools will insult me. Is nairaland CCB or CCT or FHC? If you think she is guilty charge her to court and if found guilty send her to Kirikiri gaol and not this media stunt.

She said the money belongs to her later mother and she is only a trustee so how do u expect her to declare money she is holding in trust for the dependants of the deceased?

EFCC cannot get this money because the mother is no more to testify and the onus is on efcc to prove her guilt by evidence showing that the money is a proceed of fraud and not on her to prove her innocence.

Common Saraki matter has taken them approximately 2 years, Jonathan's wife case will take them 8years at the CCT. Mama peace is a very hard nut and cannot be cracked easily.

Rikidony:
that can't be lagos .

that should definitely be Ekiti state

Hater of Oshoko sighted, lolololololololololololllllllllll. You like it or not Oshoko is the governor of Ekiti State.

claremont:
You think the Nigerian Army are a bunch of riffraffs?! OK, then.

What happened to them in Bayelsa and Rivers State? Edo State is nor Bayelsa or Rivers

Ghost mode activated to all those phooooooooools masturbating regarding my comment against Jonathan. I am ready for you guys now, bring on the insults.

omooba969:
Good dat u r educating ursef, a step in d right direction.

Try to be rational for a moment & see if prerogative is the right choice of word to use in this context. Also examine if you even have the freedom to exercise your right to insult.

This is because you fail to see others' insult @you as their prerogative.

Ordinarily I don't have problem with insults but the rule of the forum forbids one from insulting another member. If I should revert same I will be made the escape goat because that is why I think they are allowing such to happen in the forum. It's one's prerogative to express his or herself and in the process you might insult the other provided your insult is not defamatory. Not all insults amount to defamatory comments. If you want us to insult ourselves then do me a favour by asking the owner of the copyright to amend the rules and allow us to insult ourselves keeping civility aside and see if you can withstand me for the game of Insult.

I for one will not entertain you henceforth with my time again or any of you who can't obey the rules governing this forum. He who can't obey simple rules of engagement in a forum (don't pelt insult on another member like missiles ) has actually a mind of a ten year old, so I will kill him or her with no response. I will be dignifying such disgruntled fellow for exchanging words with the person.

Kapish

omooba969:
Good dat u r educating ursef, a step in d right direction.

Me or u, I am telling you how it's my prerogative to express myself and you r helping forming one kind ..... Pls I am always trying to civil in this forum so just don't force me to insult people like the way your lots do in this forum.

My calling Jonathan is on personal ground and it has nothing to do with you, u don't know nothing about Jonathan so just chill out for one corridor.

AchieverChika:
This couple sha...

Don't be jealous, please.

shininglite:
If u cant stand the heat in the kitchen stay away from the kitchen..u re been served the tea u prepared,..#last bullet# u re an attention seeker..no offence

If I want to seek attention, I'd better get one from people with pedigree and not ......

chumada:
What's wrong with this girl self Since pdp lost edo state, she has been ranting like a mad dog

shoro ti e ni y'en

Young03:
the lady above me

What about me?

Pavarottii:
So who is behind ur support for PDP?

That fellow is better described as Nuhu Ribadu de junior. He shifts allegiance every now and then. Trust you can remember he officially announced his retirement from the pdp?

I think Seun needs to do something about the incessant breach of the rules governing this forum. Take for instance, I have been insulted every now and then because I called Jonathan a "coward" of which I am still standing by it. The funny thing is, even those who hates Jonathan are now feigning loving Jonathan just to get at me.

Some out of ignorance went as far as saying things like; you insulted Jonathan so why the complain. I think we need to get something clear here, the rules said don't insult a fellow nairalander and the last time I checked, Jonathan Goodluck is not part of us and if he is part of us, he is was my president and I have the prerogative to express my feelings regarding his person while he was the president.

whilst I am waiting for Seun to ensure strict compliance with the rules governing this forum, I am making a passionate appeal that we as "nairalanders" should learn how to face the discourse at hand in a particular time and not be insulting others because you felt the other person was wrong. It behoves on us as members to differentiate the topic whether it is sound or not from emotions.

Come to think of it, it is a common parlance that no matter how odious the disposition of the adverse party is, you don't allow your appetite to control your reasoning hence you become a fool.

I remain Dimienprincess
(the most hated nairalander)

Kosy79:
If u really too enlightened to insult then u wouldn't have called Jonah a coward or coward is it a pleasant name? Must be an egocentric type not to appreciate the defeat conceded by Jonathan do u know how many innocent souls that would have been killed? do u know how hausas fight when they loose? D hardship now is so unbearable but that shouldn't blind ur eyes or block ur lips not to say thank u to whom is due. It will be alright dear Buhari will not sit on that seat to eternity and secondly it's a lesson to learn

The rule of this forum says don't insult a fellow nairalander, is it too difficult for you to get it?

I believe my Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Delta people. The Nigerian army will meet their waterloo if they ever felt they can subvert the will of Rivers people.

insult me here again and refer to your.... generation yet unborn.

emymeeky:
Cry cry baby I want to see your mummy shaaaaamme!!

When you referred to Jonathan as coward, you didn't call on the mod to see you. As someone said , your IQ may be in recession

Shey u b Jonathan ni? common getnout of this place. What is even you guys problem ni? Is it because I am trying to be on side of caution that is making u guys exhibit your ..........

I insult Jonathan because I am at cross with him, how is that your problem? Is Jonathan your father or mother (only if you have....)
Mods, I won't take it again since u r enjoying it. henceforth I will desecrate this forum since that is what u (mods) want by condoning this nonsense from fellow nairalanders. I will activate 100 monikers if u ban because I am tired of this lukewarm attitude from you mods toward the insults being petted on me.

They have breached rule 2 and still doing same but none of you is banning or warning them

Standing5:
#EkitgGate?

Ekiti election result as was reported by all the bloggers and other social media was same. In this apc era now, it's only result from The Nation that is now correct, all the results from the polling units as reported by eye witnesses and social media were all changed

Teespice:
mtchewwwwwww

you need that advice more than I do.

You are the one crying unbehalf of Jonathan here because I called him coward. Of course he is a coward if not, Buhari is not someone to defeat or be allowed to even govern as a councillor in a saner clime

Teespice:
since you noticed that the educational system needs overhaul, send your proposal to the proper quarters and stop whining like a lost puppy.

word to the wise: stop fooling around. person wey you dey insult no send you talk more of knowing you exist.

then stop crying more than the bereaved

elsomm:
Calling GEJ coward is no name calling or insult? You should be banned first!!!

Please do indicate the rule I breached? I mean nairaland rules

Teespice:
being a what? complete your statement.

you can't take what you have been dishing out. what does that tell about your person?

Is that your answer to the question on the rule I breached by insulting Jonathan? jeezzzzzz, our educational system needs total overhaul

Teespice:
but you have been calling jonathan a coward and other unprintable names since yesterday.

you should be banned first.
aridirin.

Tell me the rule I breached by calling Jonathan unprintable names and stop being a .....