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So Nigerians should put him in control

Educationalserv:
how will it work without you in control ? Mr confusion

Different types of craze

fuckJones:
let your house work first, speak with your son, brotherhood miss him

On Peter Obi's rock, the new Nigeria will be built and the gates of criminality shall not prevail against him

Nigeria is filled with 220 million mannequins - David Hundeyin

chidiokay:
People evolve, Nigerians have evloved in alomost everything except for our Politics .. or show me otherwise

Our Politic chance to evolve is dependent on Factors out of people's control, cos we need laws and electoral process amendment, does it look like the political rogues will do it,

Poverty as being weaponised to keep Nigeria subservient .. true protest are easily compromised with credit alert

Nigeria matter don pass weytin protest fit solve, We need a fvcking revolution .. Tinubu ,Obj, Atiku, IBB and all that their class need to go

I read upto a point where i saw you said the clamor for midwest region was because of kingship equality recognition then I stopped. If a lie exist at the beginning, then its lies throughout.

The agitation was due to developmental neglect!

You're a revisionist

DomPerignon:
From the inception of native rule n 1951 and the setting up of regional Houses with elected representatives , the ninoroty people in the north, west and east immediately began the clamour for their own regions.

Since the regional Houses back then didnt have the powers to grant internal seccesion , the prayers of the minoroty people in the three regions was directed to the British colonial government which brushed aside their demands with the exception of western Cameroun. Western Cameroun only became part of British Mandated Nigeria after the treaty of Verssielle had divided German Cameroun following the defeat of Germany in WW1.

The clamour for the creation of Midwestern Nigeria was spearheaded by the then Oba of Benin who saw his Kingdom and supreme authority under Westen Nigeria being relegated below the Alaffin of Oyo and the Ooni of Ife.

immediately on independence the Oba fontinied his quest at the regional House in Ibadan to which there was no opposotion from Yoruba MPs. Its even on record that the motion for a referendum for the people f midwest creation was passed by a Yoruba MP

Also note that it was only western Nigeria that operated a bi-mecurial Parliament with the House of Commons for elected posotions and a House of Chiefs for titled holders to which the Oba of Benin was part of.

What the above meant was that even when a Yoruba dominated House had passed the motion for referendum for the creation of Midwest it still required ratifucation from the House of Chiefs dominated mostly by Yoruba monarchs.

That is to tell you that it was only inthe Yoruba dominated House in Ibadan that the wishes of minoroties was listened to and graciuosly approved.

After the conclusion of the referendum, it was still a Yoruba Federal MP that presented the reults on behalf of the minoroty MPs calling for the Federal House to ratify the outcome and grant the creation of Midwetern region.


Was that the case in Enugu and Kaduna?

The very fact that midwest was created through democraric and constitutional means ought to tell you who the Yorubas are.

To paraphrase Awlowo, he said the Yorubas who fought against British colonialism can not turn around and hold their brothers in a union created by the British imperailists.


i am sure you have heard of the mantra "One north" and how it was coined by the Sarduna.

"One north" does not imply one unified north rather it was Sarduna's desperate actions tp keep the socalled Pagan Provinces of present middlebelt from leaving the north.

In Enugu , the Ibo dominated house acting on direct instructions from Zik did everything opppsite of what transpired in Ibadan

So, in a nutshell, the very reason midwest came to existence exonerates the Yorubas as impeilists.

As i said here befire the spam bot banned and hid my comment, independence movement meant different things fot the three major tribes.

The Fulani north looked foward to independence to re kickstart their halted jihad which had thr entire Nigeria in it cross-hairs.

You ibos, fresh from your dilligent servitide to the british colonal government , saw the Nigerian state as your bequeated settlement for your servitude to the British and you wasted no time presnting yourselves as the new colonial masters to the hapless minirities trapped in that British contrapment known as Eastern Nigeria. To showcase how deluded you were as the new colonial overlords, ypu decided to annex the newly created states of Old Rivers (present day Bayelsa and Rivers) and Old Cross Rivers (Present day Akwa Ibom and Cross River) to form your ungodly cannibal Biafra.


As for the Yoruba, they wanted to be on their own and had insisted on a referendum clause and the fact that they keyed into the demands of their cousins in the old Bendel proves thst out of the three major tribes they remain the only civil nationality that did not see minorities as one to exploit and paraatize on.

spit

Yet, every news, political discussion and coalition revolves round Obi

GodPunishOsu:
We know your type,Obi is the worst candidate today,no amount of your lies will change that.

Obi won 12 states and SE is just 5 states. 7/12 is 58% so Obi won 58% of the states he won outside SE!

GodPunishOsu:
No, that's why Hausa/Fulani voted him more than any other tribe in Nigeria,can you tell me where Obi got 70% of his vote?

I'm from Delta and I'm Igbo just like Okowa and Prof Pat Utomi.

Hope you know that Chukwuma Nzeogwu was from present day Delta State?

EvilMerodack:
Thought you said you're from SS and not Igbo

You seem to defend them more than even they themselves

There are threads of SS leaders doing all sort and I've never seen you on any of those threads before

Obi is different

hakeemhakeem:
Obi lose or you believed politicians are running into politics because of Nigerians

I'm not ready to do tribalism with you. Look for someone else. Obi remains the best presidential candidate in Nigeria today and this has nothing to do with being Igbo

GodPunishOsu:
I forgot that those people started begging in 2023,there were no begger in Anambra when Obi was governor,are you sure you are fighting for those people or you desperately want Igbo president? because I remembered during last Lagos gubernatorial how all of you started shouting grv because he is Igbo, you didn't campaign for him because he's capable but because you want Igbo man to be governor of Lagos,so back to my question do you truly love those people or you are desperate for Igbo president?

That statistics is an aggregate of what happened during their tenures. The source of the data is included, not my statistics.

Those are the indices of development,
not building stadium and flyovers

osuofia2:
Includes the number of months doctors were on strike under Obi in your statistics
https://dailypost.ng/2012/02/28/anambra-doctors-call-off-strike-after-13-months/?amp=1

Data speak for itself. Port Harcourt was developed from Enugu coal

KnowAll:
It is only Igbo’s eulogize over the phenomenal growth of the Eastern Region, u will not hear an Ikwerre, Efik, Ibibio, ogoni and Ijaw gloat over such self aggrandisement.

Answer the question

GodPunishOsu:
Are you just admitting that you only want Igbo presidency?

Lies!

You don't know what governance is. You think its about building flyovers?

osuofia2:
Funny, you guys overrate Obi to his amazement, Obi left Anambra as a governor nothing tangible to his name. The only time a project was commissioned by a sitting president was the Brewery which he has a large stake on. Nice still remains the best governor of Anambra state

Yet, it was the Western region that was divided due to neglet of minorities. That was how my midwest region was created

DomPerignon:
Nonsense.

Enugu and ibo provinces and not Eastern region was the fastest growing .

Minority provinces were in severe neglect and the few jobs available were all given to IBO's

The Nigeria you complain today wit Abuja as its capital was drawn from the template of Eastern Nigeria and Enugu .


Everything you accuse the Fulani north of today , you pioneered and did worse in the British created Eastern Nigeria.

You're speaking from hatred rather than data. The Eastern region was the fastest growing region in Africa and one if the fastest in the world btw 1945 and 1966. Rising tide lifts all boats

KnowAll:
As far as I know the clannishness of the Igbo would have isolated the minorities no doubt.

But Tinubu's illegitimate presidency is not Yoruba presidency?

GodPunishOsu:
Obi presidency is Igbo presidency not Nigeria.

Are you saying we cannot evolve? We will continue to do things same way forever?

Are you aware there is currently protest in Edo, Delta and Bayelsa?

chidiokay:
Are we Sri lanka does it look like we are close to Bangladesh people, do we reason alike ??

see talk, "IF", assuming we are in america will your choice of word be "IF" .. the difference between me and your likes is that i am a realist, i take cognizance of local peculiarity to analyze matters n profound solutions.

Ordinary agbero kept people from voting in an election 2023, people ran back home and you are here bragging how many people soldier go kill.. where chukwudi dey run from agbero dey play

Those beggars you see in the streets and middle of the road are not people? What is the UN definition of poor people? Living on less than $2 a day. How many Nigerians live above $2 a day?

GodPunishOsu:
You are not poor and I'm not poor,so where are the invisible poor people you are fighting for?are you truly fighting because you think they're poor or because you really want Igbo president ?

This is the selfishness Nigerians are made of. If they're comfortable, others can go to hell

GodPunishOsu:
Are you poor?if no leave all this unnecessary shalaye.

There is no indication that shows the Eastern region as a whole wouldn't have been more developed

KnowAll:
If there was no coup in 1966 you would still be in the Eastern region overrun by the Igbo tribe. At least now u guys are governing yourselves.

Yet, you top the country with highest poverty numbers and out of school children

GodPunishOsu:
Nigeria win each time Obi loses,he will continue losing so Nigeria can continue winning.

I'm not saying they're comparable, I'm saying just like Ambazonia were deceived, Nigeria minorities were also deceived because this is not what was agreed at independence

KnowAll:
Says who, go and compare Port Harcourt Uyo and Calabar to those cities in the English speaking areas of Cameroon U go dey thank God.

If Obi loses, its actually Nigeria that loses.

You guys don't know why countries do politics

KnowAll:
He is going to lose anyways he should be planning for 2039

Go and see what Sri Lanka and Bangladesh did when their govt were taken them for a ride.

If 10 million people are on the streets, how many can the Nigerian army that's about 250k kill? They won't kill anybody cos that number is overwhelming yet its 0.5% of Nigeria's population

chidiokay:
or Maybe i am just realist thats the difference between me and people like you

i am not stupid to pick a fight with a military man on the street .. becos i can speak big big english

But they had option to join Nigeria just like for Gongola State currently Adamawa joined Nigeria

Lifestone:
There was only one Cameroon Country before the WW2, colonized by Germany. When Germany was defeated in the War, her "Properties" were divided, Britain took a part and French took the other side.
The English speaking side was governed along side Nigeria while the French side was independent from start.
In actual fact, they were stranded since that division

What we have in Nigeria is not what was agreed in 1960 too. What we had in 1960 is 100% resource control while a percentage is paid to the fg.

KnowAll:
By international law they should be allowed to have another referendum after 50 years but obviously the French Cameroonians would not want the region laying the golden egg to go like that. What I would suggest is either the French Cameroonians go back to the deal that made them a unified state or they hold a second referendum that would force the French Cameroonians to go back to federalism and giving them their derivatives. Otherwise they opt out.

Can you imagine Nigeria becoming a full Unitary State and no derivation for oil producing states thereby turning those ss states into a village while d money is used to develop the North. We would not have a country.

The English speaking areas should take up the matter to the international court of Arbitration.

You have a defeatist mentality

chidiokay:
Its good to be, Ambitious and optimistic But having those two in a wrong time is a labour in vain

Obi dont have the affluence to disloge a Tinubu yet lets not Fuul ourselves.

Sha make una nor turn off IREV or rig cos its #RigAndDie2027

Sharpsharp00123:
no need for baseless back n forth arguement.

I will quote u when it happens.

I told many of u obi will not win in 2023 but they insulted me n a mod even ban me for that, after obi lost I quoted everyone of them again

I will quote u again when obi loses come 2027

You don run?

Sharpsharp00123:
ok

Nor be by cho cho cho, show workings.

Mention two!

Sharpsharp00123:
they are innumerable cos naturally ibos felt it's their turn n that's y till today u lots attack soludo n Yul edochie.

So why did the vote massively for PDP in 1999?

Sharpsharp00123:
because PDP was still decieving them