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Rossikki:
Funny how people like you keep silent when christians evangelize up and down with reckless abandon, only to grow all loud and sensible when someone comes up challenging their nonsense.

Here is my argument from another angle:

Atheism becomes bigotry when it makes prejudicial statements about religious people. Prejudice is prejudice and intolerance is intolerance, and both are irrational regardless of who commits it. Despite its scientific pretensions and its pronouncements of love for reason, many atheists offer arguments laden with logical fallacies of hasty generalization, strawman arguments, and most of all ad homenim attacks. They are, in fact, fundamentally no different in all of this from the islamic or other religious fundamentalists.

The arguments of Dawkins and Hitchens, et al. are, in their structure, no different than the arguments of bigots like Osama Bin Laden, James Dobson and Gary Bauer. The atheist will say “but I don’t condemn people to hell.” Yes, but only because you don’t believe in hell. What is important is the condemnation itself, not what you think should happen to those you condemn.

Read more https://www.nairaland.com/3203415/bigotry-atheism

Free thinkers on the other hand do not condemn people nor participate in bigotry nor try to convince anyone to join them. Naaa! That is for the religious and atheist fundamentalist.

We accept people, focus more on their humanities than their spirituality or belief system

I hope you have seen the light?

cc Lilbrown007
cloudgoddess

Rossikki:
Funny how people like you keep silent when Christians evangelize up and down with reckless abandon, only to grow all loud and sensible when someone comes up challenging their nonsense.

You made conclusions like you know me. Sad! But amma let it pass cause this is just an online forum.

Let me make this point again: I am not an atheist and I can never be one but I am a free thinker believing solely in myself to dictate roles of people and happenstances in my life as much as I can.

Do I listen to christian or Muslim evangelists? No! Will I listen to an atheist evangelist? Hell No!

Why?

Because I believe that everyone is free to seek his own answers and not be coerced or pressured into it.

To be specific, we need forums for christian Muslim atheist and free thinkers and if an individual begins to search for the path of enlightenment, he should seek out those forums himself, ask his questions and make his mind up. Totally his business.

What we need is to get people out of the suffering they dwell in. I just happened to bury a sickle cell kid who died from malaria because his momma didn't have 1500 naira to buy emal( an anti malaria injection for celebral malaria)

So tell me is the woman's primary problems Jesus Mohammed Buddha or "God doesn't exist" that all you atheist and your religious counterparts go preaching about? Not at all!

I careless what you believe as long as we can create a better world together dude.

This year, I intend going from nothing to something. Join me as we walk the part of becoming Gods ourselves then we can finally prove to the world that the gods exists and We are They!

Congratulations on your enlightenment!

CBC Lilbrown007, cloudgoddess et al

Funjosh:
Please i have this niece she is currently having serious pains on her left leg. It's a pain that I don't like seeing her having most painkiller she do use doesn't work.



Cc Ymodulus

Bros, you have got to be specific: what kind of pain is it? Is it prickly or burning? is it swollen or not? Does the pain comes from her bones or just from the muscles? Does she have an open wound or not.

your answers will determine what drug she needs but here is a general guide:
- Diclofenac is good for musco-skeletal pains
- DF118 is hood for general crisis and travelling pains
- if the above don't work, a regulated dosage of tramadol could serve
- More sever pains will require fortwin injection. Note that this injection is very addictive so you need to regulate it for her.
- For extreme cases like a fracture or oesteo milletus morphin is good although for twin could still serve.

Sometimes, I smoke Cannabis for pain relieve. you should never encourage anybody to do that though but if the situation warrants, boil some for her on her sleepless nights and watch the magic.

DISCLAMER:
all the substances mentioned here are medicines with contra indications and side effect. be sure to check.

I have used them all and they work for different crisis but I am not making g promised to their efficiency in your case. as such I cannot be held liable for use, misuse and abuse of the substances mentioned herein!

Boss, the disclaimer was necessary in my line of work!

Ymodulus:
Pleas eeven if its a Temporary pain Killer. As long as it can relieve pain for me to be up and working. And I can take it always I am ok.

Please any one help thanks

My boss, I just saw this thread of yours when I Googled sickle cell.

I am also a stickler and I would recommend DF118 in case you haven't found a good pain killer yet?

How do you do this? You are so active so much so that I never thought you could be facing the things I face.

pal up??

ayoadeifee:
irrespective of how you look. you will find love. I think am talking to somebody

So right! They say there is someone for everyone .. just pray I find mine!

Unique04:
Don't you know child bearing makes a woman pull on weight?
Anyway u are right on one thing, Nigerian women are too lazy to watch their weight. However, weight gain of a partner should not be an excuse for adultery.


#my2cents#

Should being broke be a reason for adultery? smh

Women wanting to manipulate reasoning to their favor since Eve (1000,000BC)

Lilbrown007:
Can U Tell Me The Base On South Korean Religion?? Is It The One Practiced Here In Nigeria That Base On Faith??

I did nor mean to make a comparison here. I was just pointing out that though religion is faulty, our people here can't challenge the pastors and imam that sometimes bring them welfare grains and help.

As a matter of fact,most people view religion as some form if insurance. They actively participate in religious programmes with hopes that they get noticed and they receive help from well to do members. Sometimes just the recognition gives them the entrance into places where opportunity may find them.

My point is and still remains that if we intend to free people from the 'chains' of religion we have to give them the hope, faith and opportunities religion affords them else we will have no success and we will just remain the underdog for another millennium.

Please tell me you see my point...

cloudgoddess:
According to Wiki, South Korea isn't extremely religious. 46% of their population isn't religious at all, 22% practice Buddhism which is far removed from any Abrahamic religion and is pretty benign (it's focused on awareness of the self and relies on no external gods).

The last 28% is Catholic & Christian, and that can hardly be counted as an huge proportion. In fact, that's less than the amount of Abrahamic practitioners in the Netherlands - a country well-known for it's non-religiousness.

I concur that people in more developed & educated areas let go of religion more readily. But what about when religion itself plays a role in a country's poor conditions & lack of education? When it's feeding into a destructive cycle.

What you'll find in real religious majority countries (I'd say Christianity/Islam 70%+) is that the governments are often corrupt & the people are uneducated, and religion plays a significant role in maintaining that. Religion might negatively affect a country by,

Acting as "opium to the masses", numbing citizens from taking action to solve their problems because of the false hope of god(s) intervening (this is happening to Nigeria now)

Taking money from citizens and the government (via religious establishments, rituals, and offering/tithes) that could be going to projects like better schools, businesses, & housing

Fueling religious wars that cost billions of dollars and many civilian lives; civilians who could be inventing things, starting companies, etc. The wars in the Middle East come to mind

Actively discouraging individuals from certain areas of study/literature (evolutionary biology, astrophysics, philosophy), and thus limiting scientific progress

Taking up collective mental space & energy that could be routed towards innovation, education, & development

Thank you very much for bringing out the statistics. Now here is my reply:

I will begin by apologizing to you for not replying on time. I was outta data.

Now with the stats you presented, 22% are buddhist, 28% are Christians while 46% are not religious ( I am totally relying on your stats here). This means 50% of the population have some form of religion as against the 46% that are not religious. We can say South Koreans are religious.

Nonetheless, if religion doesn't teach a man to dominate the chaos within him, around him and beyond him then the religion is either faulty from its root or it is just being exploited.

I based my argument on the ideal religion. And if I'll use Christianity as an example, true Christianity is rare- or as Lilbrown007 teaches, Christianity was loss long ago. But is Christianity faulty in it self because people do not practice it truly? By no means!
We never knew what it was like!

In the same manner, faith in some form of a god doesn't mean man should 'lazy off' his life or 'faith away' his plans. Centuries ago, Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin and a host of others were faithfuls who were very productive in science and even if some of their discoveries were not in agreement with their personal faith, they still taught it.

My point I guess is this: religion may be inconsistent and may have been manipilated many times over that it comes out as fraud but in Africa, it is even more corrupt and faulty because people aren't empowered to seek illumination. Walters D. Wallace wrote: "one cannot function fully in spirit( a religious word for mind) or in soul( another religious word for consciousness) when his body suffereth starvation and want"

I like to believe that when people have security( food, water, clothes, shelter and a hope for tomorrow), they will begin to use their heads and would seek enlightenment and they will challenge the status quo.

Sorry for my epistle. I am beginning to be like the religious people we are discussing.

Lilbrown007:
To End Poverty We First Of All Have To Come Out From Religious Slavery First I Get The Point U Are Driving Out Sha Nice One But We Need To Come Out Of Religion Slavery First

I want to agree with you on that point but I find plenty of evidence that nullifies that theory.

South Korea is extremely successful and still extremely religious. In the same manner, Europe and the US prospered while under the burden of religion.

I think a satisfied man is quicker to dismiss religion than a broke one. So, if you want to free people from the "chains" of religion, we need to make them comfortable.

In another note, I find the "build and purchase" business model proposed by ymodulus as a good tool for spreading your faith- Christian, Muslim or atheist. If you build a business for somebody, you will have a certain influence on that person and through that influence,you can promulgate your beliefs and hopefully, catch a convert.

Please note, that this is not an effort to drag you into an argument. I am just more focus on healing our society than a person's beliefs. If people are well fed, clothed, warm with a secured future, they will care less about what goes on in heaven and in hell.

Lilbrown007:
Top 10 Reasons Jesus Christ
Never Existed

Religion is one of the most enduringly powerful forces on earth. Two of the most influential, both today and in the past, Christianity and Islam, believe that Jesus Christ played a pivotal role in both faiths. Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God, born of a virgin birth, was crucified and resurrected for the remission of sins. Muslims believe that Jesus was the
product of a virgin birth brought forth by the command of Allah and became one of his most important (and subsequently revered) prophets . Muslims do not believe that Jesus was crucified but that another man died in his place. Whether or not we believe in the existence and life of Christ as a matter of faith most people are prepared to accept that Jesus was a real and verifiable historical figure; that he was born, lived and died in Judea between around 4BC and 33AD. This has been repeated so many times that most people do not ever think to challenge it but should they? Did a man called Jesus, son of Mary (and adoptive son of Joseph) walk the paths of Judea or was he merely a figment of imagination? A group of stories and myths pulled together by a range of cynical individuals for a particular purpose?

If you are a Christian, of course, the existence of Christ is a matter of faith but should non-Christians believe in Jesus so readily?

Who cares if Jesus existed or not? How is this argument going to be beneficial to the ordinary Nigerian youth that is struggling to get by?

If you are so intelligent, write an expose on how to end poverty and stop worrying yourself about Jesus, God and Religion.

If you have seen any person of faith, whether they believe in Jesus or the turtle around their necks, you will know that no amount of words can deter them.

So bros, write on ending poverty, hunger and disease and leave Jesus, God and their followers to rest.

Atheism is supposed to enlighten one so that he can control the chaos inside him, around him and beyond and not to argue why Jesus never existed and why God is a myth.

You are becoming more like the religious people you write about by trying to convert everyone to atheism. Live and let Live or even better, Live and teach others to Live like boss Ymodulus!

BrideOfDracula:
No, it's not about that. We're wired differently as people

Have you ever effed a married man?
a. if yes, just reprogram your mind to avoid loosing your sanity b. if no, pray that your man wouldn't
Action begets reaction. To every result there is a principle.
Plus, I will like to see elephants fly. (funny)

deeplow:
From the look of things, she seems at peace with whatever choices she has made, doesn't look forced. That Facebook post reeks of senselessness, immaturity, hatred, intolerance and pain.

I admit that it is sad, the way some useless muslims have chosen to take laws into their hands. It is just more saddening how people have chosen to react to it. If every muslim killed, every christian would be dead.

More prominent muslims just have to do more about this spate of radicalism and extremism. Without that, these sickening actions and reactions would continue.

Do not underestimate Christians.

s2n4r3t1:
W

H3, d3d 3 g2t th3 c4d2?

Spicycat:
These bills means nothing to the common man unfortunately.

After giving u a like, I checked ur personal text and yes! I want to already.

nice melons

psychologist:
Kenya ozo kwa

psy kolo gist

Kullant:
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WOMAN !!!

Her Moniker says ganisucks... what do you expect if not for gani to suck? and yes! she sucks.
I love her jorr

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ganisucks:
Fayose, I A̶̲̥̅̊Ω̴̩̩̩̥D̶̲̥̅̊ all Nigerian women L♥√ع A̶̲̥̅̊Ω̴̩̩̩̥D̶̲̥̅̊ support Y̶̲̥̅̊ø̲̣̣̥ǖ. Please don't relent in your struggle against jihadist dictatorship A̶̲̥̅̊Ω̴̩̩̩̥D̶̲̥̅̊ tyranny. Y̶̲̥̅̊ø̲̣̣̥ǖ are the only Yoruba freedom fighter we KϞöω̲ A̶̲̥̅̊Ω̴̩̩̩̥D̶̲̥̅̊ respect, for the rest have been bought A̶̲̥̅̊Ω̴̩̩̩̥D̶̲̥̅̊ paid for. Keep on telling Nigerians the truth, even if they are too chicken †̥♥ hear it.

Nice coded comment...
And Gani still Sucks?
Perfection!

asadike:
Some people go still dare God

Babe eh.... na so you dope reach? shape gi dikwa nma oh

picshure or adonbilivit

ganisucks:
They should go and sit down. Everyone now wants their 15mins of fame, since the rise and success of MEND

Nice post girl...

Bhet wait oh

Does GANI really SUCK?

schumastic:
all this ladies with binocular eyes....just make sure you ask for forgiveness this Sunday

Mennnn. Odikwa somehow oh.
Them no see the fine girl for davido hand sef...
Na small thing them dey look for

JOYOSITA:
He is showing off that small thing?

u go swear say e no do you?

If davido offer a date now u no go remember this your comment.

cruzita:
when money is speaking ,other things keeps quiet .


ego di nma

Ego din ma?

are you Igbo girl?

see space booking for here.

anyway, I don't see how that relates with leadership. you not being able to maintain a presidential lodge is bad leadership.

how could they have you speak to the youths on leadership?

sanandreas:
To all those who protested, expect posting to village Where there is no light, water and network.

Tell them.

With delay in allawee sef

Bumken:
Exploitation of writers must stop.

I tell you...
Maybe we should have a kinda union too. Some offers are ridiculously degrading to say the least.

Sedofbobs:
Can anyone give me a better airtel subscription for my android with d amount. Plzzzzzz.

How is this one related to privatization of NNPC?

Go tech section na

But if na to make me angry u ask that question, kontinu

mira4u:
this govt is a joke jare.


Btw who FTC don help.

Mind yourself oh. Me dey hungry for FTC too.
its no fair na that for 5 years on naira land I never get FTC

mopinks:
Layer davido go talk say dm dy use his head, see as he dy look d girl like say..... Shay I no go do another round like ds?

U noticed....
I feel like he still dey feel her.

E nor consign me sha

mira4u:
lol later they will say he is not corrupt. See indirect bribe.

Wow...FTC! Congrats girl

Anyway, adonbiliv anything from this government till I see it because once I heard about availability and affordability of fuel. Today Sowie is my name!