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Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 6:29pm On Sep 21, 2016
Those of you angry with GOD,
Can you point out where the Bible says the earth is flat?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by DoctorAlien(m): 4:04pm On Sep 21, 2016
Bandeco:
We are in the same page . You don't expect me to disprove your claim that a god talks to you. You made the claim and the onus is on you to proof to us that he/she /It indeed talks to you.

To me if a god, powerful enough to create this majestic universe, a significant portion of his creation will not call into question his existence. If truly an omnipresent omnipotent God exist, there won't be any controversy to his/her/it existence among his allege creation. His existence will be so discernable, so revealing, so testable that it won't require man to assert his existence.

I don't even see any reason why he/she/It should even exist

Think brother.
Evidence is all around you that a Creator exists. If you can be truthful, any other story apart from that a loving, intelligent Creator made all that is today doesn't make sense.

The world as it is now, however, isn't what the Creator planned when He made it.

But, very soon, He will fix everything.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by DoctorAlien(m): 3:08pm On Sep 21, 2016
Bandeco:
You just committed the logical fallacy - - argumentum ad ignorantiam( appeal to ignorance).

You are suggesting that a proposition(God) is true because it has not yet been proved false. Thats a logical fallacy.

If I tell you that the flying spaghetti monster exist and visited me last night, can you disprove that? Of course Not!

Moreover, The burden of proof falls on you that makes a claim. Where is your proof of an invisible man in the sky? So far for thousands of years no shred of evidence has been forthcoming as to the existence of God. No single empirical evidence!
I tell you that GOD exists and that He talks to me. Can you disprove it? Of course not!
Celebrities › Re: Marion Cotillard's Affair With Brad Pitt Caused His Split With Angelina Jolie by DoctorAlien(m): 2:20pm On Sep 21, 2016
jenas0:
That's just how a life without christ looks like,always empty and meaningless shocked

Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by DoctorAlien(m): 1:35pm On Sep 21, 2016
ValentineMary:
What's ur evidence for this creatorhuh
From what u wrote, u obviously have little knowledge of science and use God as a reason to fill ur ignorance. I would recommend u visit the science/technology section more often.
Prove beyond reasonable doubt with science that GOD does not exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by DoctorAlien(m): 1:33pm On Sep 21, 2016
SCIENCE DENIES ATHEISM

Science seems caught in the midst of a scandal. There's word going around town that Science has joined itself in an unholy alliance with atheism against it's Maker. So Science proceeds to clarify issues concerning it's true identity. Science says it is:

¤ The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

¤ A systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.

Science makes it clear then that the nature and the ability of it's Maker is beyond it's scope of study. Indeed, the Maker limited it to the study of the universe.

GOD is not a part of the universe. Indeed He made the universe. Why then do atheists make it seems as if Science can explain anything or establish any fact about GOD? Can Science study anything beyond its scope?

I wonder...

Christianity Etc › Re: A Divine Force Or Creator - Mere Thinking Or Emblem Of Evidence by DoctorAlien(m): 1:01pm On Sep 21, 2016
So instead of someone to accept that he was made by a loving Creator, he would rather believe his a product of randomly moving subparticle or whatever?

Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:35am On Sep 21, 2016
raphieMontella:
you're joking right?
You believe in a flat earth?
You believe you think with your heart right?
You believe when ever it rains heavens windows are opened right?
You believe lightning's,,thunder,,earthquakes are a result of god's anger?
Dont even go there...you do not believe in god's understanding...
Where does the Bible say the earth is flat?

Yes! The heart is often used to mean the mind. (This shows you read the Bible only to find fault).

Yes, GOD gives rain, okay?

GOD's voice was once heard amid terrible thunders and earthquakes and lightnings on mount Sinai. Thunder is a natural phenomenon. So is lightning. They were both created by GOD.

Any other questions?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:00pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:
Probably, did you say? I can't laugh.



What probable explanation are you giving to the other verses I mentioned earlier o? Wikipedia again to the rescue?

By the way, who wrote that explanation on wikipedia? Someone inspired by the holy ghost? Does that mean the accounts of other gods on wikipedia is true then?
grin

Which god is on wikipedia?

On 2 Sam. 24:1 and 1 Chron. 21:1:

A careful study of the Bible will reveal that sometimes when GOD permits something to happen, it is recorded as GOD doing it.

The two statements in those verses are true: although it was Satan who immediately incited David to number Israel, it was GOD who allowed Satan to do so. Although it was Satan's plan to destroy David and Israel, it was GOD's plan to humble David and teach him a valuable spiritual lesson.

It's similar to Job's story. GOD permitted Satan to harm Job. GOD could have prevented Satan, but He didn't. It could be said GOD tested Job with suffering.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:25pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:
Write both genealogies from Adam. Place them side by side. From Adam begath Seth. Seth begath.... on and on. Then when you get to the 14th generation, maybe you will see where the differences in account crept in. You can then judge for yourself, not through some wiki-nonesense account, how it has anything to do with Mary.
LOL. I said that Luke most probably traced his account through Mary to Adam. Okay?

When it got to David, instead of mentioning Solomon, Luke mentioned Nathan. Jesus was born of Mary. Luke most probably traced his account through Mary's lineage.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:12pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:
Maybe you should look at both accounts again and see that both traced it through Joseph. Stop basing your fact on Wikipedia. Can't you compare both accounts on your own? Is Wikipedia now the holy spirit guiding you?
Read wikipedia article on Luke's account of the genealogy, will you?

Just before he began listing Jesus' ancestors, Luke stated that people supposed Jesus was the Son of Joseph (Luke 3:23).

What does that tell you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:37pm On Sep 20, 2016
raphieMontella:
pls dont tell me you believe the tower of babel...
We have space stations remember?
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We went to the moon remember?

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christianity has truly redefined ''soon''
I believe the tower of babel. Any problem with that? Can you tell me how we managed to have countless number of languages today?

Y'all atheists believe evolution, don't ya? A space of 6000 years is microscopic compared to the figures you people put up in evolution.

Still, very soon - sooner than most expect, sudden destruction will come upon the wicked.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:32pm On Sep 20, 2016
raphieMontella:
modern day christianity is proof you dont think as god wants you to...and i suggest you stop doing so...
In light of
prov 3:5
prov 28:26
LOL. Who told you I'm trusting in myself or my own understanding? I try my best to practise Christianity as GOD wants me to. I dare not trust myself or my own understanding.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:27pm On Sep 20, 2016
raphieMontella:
what are you doing on a forum owned by an atheist?
This forum is not an atheist forum, is it? It has a religion section.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:54pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:
Let's begin with II Samuel 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:1 in the old testament, then Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3: 23-38
Read Luke's account of the genealogy of Christ on wikipedia. Luke most probably reported Jesus lineage through Mary.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:06pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:
Can you listen to your argument? I just "love" the gullibility of our Christian Brothers. Point something out in their scripture, and they realize they have no logical explanation for it, they tell to all that matters is to accept the sonship of Christ.



Hmmmmm
So, what are you saying in essence?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 6:21pm On Sep 20, 2016
Ifenes,

prove beyond reasonable doubt that GOD does not exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 6:07pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
What would you not do to avoid hell fire?
I would not commit sin.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:34pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
You are funny. I studied(not worship) Astrology/ in school,so its was easy for me too see where the Sun turned into God.

Horus(rising sun),Osiris(sun-set) The Sun walking on the water(remember jesus?)

Listen,I'm off to the gym......chat soon
Well, according to Wikipedia, osiris is the god of the underworld and all that stuff.

What does it prove about Christianity?

Furthermore, what relationship exists between GOD and the sun except that it is a creature of GOD?

When did the sun walk on water? And what does it prove about GOD?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:29pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
Critical thinking makes you question the unquestionable. Isn't your god unquestionable? Nigeria is in this state due to poor reasoning,reliance on god,blaming witches and wizard etc
LOL. So questioning GOD is critical thinking? The same critical thinking you said will be of benefit to Nigeria?

Why would Nigeria question GOD for disease and poverty? How did GOD put Nigeria in this condition? And how can questioning GOD solve Nigeria's problems?

How has reliance on GOD caused poverty to Nigeria?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:19pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
I have proof your god is not real. The christian god is a combination of all gods. Osiris,Ra,Horus etc These gods allegories surrounding the story of the Sun. Even Jesus,the Sun of God. Jesus and his 12 disciples illustrates the movement and relationship of the Sun and the signs of Zodiac.. But Christians think Jesus was real. No he wasn't

You are not paying offering to god,you are paying to an organization. How much have your benefited from your years of offering donations?
You believe in zodiac, osiris, ra and so on, yet you claim you're an atheist? I thought atheism was lack of belief in gods?

According to atheist logic, no god ever existed. If osiris never existed, how can you use it to prove anything about the Christian GOD which you claim doesn't exist too?

I give alms too. I never think of benefitting from what I give out. Giving is a Christian virtue.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:14pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
If religion helps,how come poor countries are mostly religious. The less you think of god the more you think of yourself
So, according to your logic, the poor countries are poor just because they believe in GOD?

How did you conclude I don't think of myself? Furthermore, how can "thinking of myself" help Nigeria?

You're right in a way though: I think of others before myself. Christianity upholds humility.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:07pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
Athiesm is only a disbelieve in god. Atheism won't help much. But a critical thinker has a better chance to survive, maximise opportunities, make researches, utilise knowledge to better is world.

People who believe in gods see no need to improve the planet since they think jesus is coming preparing a place for them.
If atheism won't help much, why do you atheists behave as if it is the antidote to the problems of the world today?

Can you prove that Christians are not critical thinkers? Further, is lack of belief in gods=critical thinking?

Who said believers in GOD see no need to keep, maintain and improve our GOD-given earth?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:56pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
That you are yourself God. In the sense that what you reverence/worship is what you really are. The houseboy who had no clue his is the Master.
I am not GOD, and I cannot presume to be GOD.

This quote really betrays you atheists: Atheism appeals to human pride and ego. Atheists delude themselves that they are gods. Why would atheists believe that one is what he/she worships? What logic is more inadequate than that?

Now, if I say I worship Obama as my god because he became a president of USA, am I Obama? or can I ever be the president of USA? Therefore I am not GOD.

What of those that worship flying spaghetti? Are they spaghetti? Why did you quickly ascribe GOD's exalted position to me? Would you still tell somebody that worships a cow that he is what he worships? Doesn't it show that atheism is simply rebellion to Jehovah?

It becomes obvious that atheism is born out of hate for Jehovah and it uses appeal to human pride and ego to delude its apologists.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:47pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
I. You do not have evidence this god is real.
2. You are not aware even aware of the passages in Genesis that says" man have become like us, let's go down and confuse their language". Why would a god do that?
3 you cannot use an unborn baby to explain anything here. Let's focus on your god.
4 you do not think is an art of terrorism to invade others, kill their women and take their land as written in the bible? His intelligent are you if you don't think that's wrong?
You too don't have evidence GOD is not real.

GOD confused the language of man because of rebellion.

GOD visited retribution on the heathen for their rebellion. He destroyed them (His creatures) for disobedience, just as I would smash my phone on the ground for misbehaving.

GOD will still soon destroy all the ungodly people.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:39pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
What would you not do to avoid hell fire?


Is that not your lists of dos and don'ts. You wanna tell me you are in the time of grace?


Why do you pay tithes and offering?

How do you feel if you skip 3 Sunday classes in a row?

How do you feel about the picture of a man nailed to a cross advertised in churches and Christian books?

How do you feel about women being degraded by the bible? Call the filthy, unclean etc?
I obey the commandments, in obedience to GOD. I obey GOD not man.

I pay tithes and offerings because GOD instructed me to. My Pastor did not instruct me.

I worship on Saturday, the Sabbath of GOD. I feel bad if I miss church, because I missed GOD's blessings.

The Seventh-day adventist church doesn't create and publish pictures of a man on a cross.

I feel grateful to GOD for the death of Jesus on the cross because it delivered me from sin and made sure my share in GOD's kingdom.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:07pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
Rather than pray of go to church, why not sweep the roads, organise sanitation,promote unity within all tribes, do sports, relax at home on Sunday's, turn noise making churches to charity homes where you donate money to help power supplies like Nepa. The money in the accounts of the churches alone is enough to repair roads, generate power supply etc.

Don't forget the church building is not the church, the people are. Deeper life alone have the means to repair all the roads in Lagos state. The people's money are in churches bank accounts

god is the reason Nigerians have not butchered all their pastors
Can you prove that Christians don't sweep roads, organize sanitation or promote unity? And how can relaxing at home on Sunday mornings help the situation of Nigeria?

Do you mean Christians should use their salary to build roads and provide electricity?

If Christians choose to pay offerings to GOD, how have they dwarfed the progress of Nigeria?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:59pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
The mind once set free will begin to function well. Once the mind is free creativity sets in. Buhari said "change starts with me". Do you know what that means? It means to change the situation I'm in, I will need to change my approach to things.

Prayer for Nigeria is now a national anthem. 250 million people praying every day without change. Relying on a god that never answers . repeating the same pattern that doesn't work will give the same old results
I suppose the minds of atheists in Nigeria are free (from who-knows-what). How has creativity manifested in the lives of atheists in Nigeria? How has atheists changed the situation in Nigeria?

Can you prove that Christians only pray for Nigeria and do not contribute their effort to its progress?

Name one single nation in the whole that atheism has helped and critically evaluate how atheism helped them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:52pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
The fear of god protects your pastors from you. Religion is anti- anarchy. It stops the poor from murdering the rich.

Define a true Christian
The fear of GOD protects me from committing sin and it makes me a good citizen of my country.

Yes. Religion is anti-anarchy. Anarchy is demonic. On the other hand, atheism supports anarchy.

So didn't even know who a Christian was and you concluded Christianity is the problem of the society?

Well, read the Bible and see who a Christian is. Then you can judge whether Christians are the problem of the society or not.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:46pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
There was never a Christian god. The idea is a scam and blackmail to keep you obedient. And your 10 commandments is a proof. You cannot question god neither can you think for yourself. The story of the garden of Eden is proof the Christian god( fabricated god) don't want humans as clever as him. Which actually meant the elites who composed the bible want knowledge far away from the majority. Oyedepo rides a private jet paid for by his poor members. Can you see how the pyramid of the society works?
How is the idea of GOD a blackmail? To keep me in obedience to what?

Can you point out who the 10 Commandments ascribe obedience to?

How did you know that I don't think for myself? I choose not to commit adultery: does that mean I don't think for myself?

You said that the Christian GOD does not exist: how can He not want me to be as intelligent as He is? Can an unborn baby not want me to be as small as he is?

What knowledge does the Bible want far from me?
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:40pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
Gold Oil and Diamond of course. Can you see the pyramid of Egypt on their currency? Think again Mr. They know exactly who their god is and it's not the imaginary one in the sky.
You have not answered my question: is there any empirical proof that belief in the existence of GOD causes a nation to be poor?

GOD blessed America with gold, diamond and oil.

The argument of the Egyptian pyramid further proves that America believes in a god, whatever it is. You even admit they know their god.
Christianity Etc › Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:19pm On Sep 20, 2016
Ifenes,

critically evaluate how the acceptance of the non-existence of GOD can solve any of the major problems facing Nigeria today such as: corruption, epileptic power supply, hunger, diseases, kidnapping and economic recession.

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