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themall:
I am a christian. But since you are a natural Jew you are free to keep the Sabbath. The bible instructed all natural Jews to observe the Sabbath. Kontinu.

You still haven't answered the question: who instructed you to disregard GOD's holy Sabbath?

You're a Christian? Why are you not walking as Christ walked by keeping the Sabbath?

themall:
One thing with discussions about religion is that people who claim to believe in God really don't. So when the Catholic church says there's a miracle, those who believe it is just a NATURAL OCCURRENCE.
On the other hand are those who have only one objective: Defend the old-beliefs, force every christian to conform, defend ignorantly. So, let those who really want to get saved study the bible (don't use the king James edition, printed by Pentecostal churches alone - It has many duplications and inaccuracies). Then pray to the almighty God. See the lifestyle of the members of the church and God will always guard you.

Which one should they use? NWT?

Why do you hate KJV?

Because it exposes JW's false doctrines?

goodnewscliff:
whats sunday keeping?? who toldu witnesses do sunday keping? ? were did u get that word from?

Do you JWs keep the Sabbath of GOD? If no, support it with Scriptures.

Kassidy90:
Wow! So how do u see any xtian that practice against the the teachings of the bible and God s commandments

They are not obeying GOD.

themall:
Heheeheheheheeheheeee, narrowgate is a church with a very big population.... and bros, who instructed you to keep the Sabbath or not to keep it? Remember that a very large number of people will be in heaven or does your bible say differently.

The Bible instructed me to keep the Sabbath.

Now, who instructed you to disregard GOD's Sabbath and observe Sunday?

goodnewscliff:
hey dude calm down a bit...we dont take blood doesnt mean we gon watch someone die we ve got other alternatives and special trained pesonel that can treat us without blood transfusion...we dont want to disobey Gods law becos of our short life!!! we take safety first in stuffs we do..dat shows we respect life but wen it comes to the point were i will have to choose as to my healthi will choose Gods way....and we aint pagan related... every single thing we do is bible based....i mean every single thing!!!

Even Sunday-keeping?

Kassidy90:
Thanks, but Jehovah witness believed he was crucified on pole and 90% of the xtians that I know worships on Sundays what's ur take on that

The Jehovah Witnesses teach many things which are not according to the Bible. However, the only Standard of Christian doctrine is the Bible (2 Tim. 3:16)

It's very sad that 90% of Christians, as you said, have forgotten the only commandment of GOD that begins with "REMEMBER". GOD knew people will forget his Sabbath, and so He said "REMEMBER" in Exod. 20:8. A thorough search of the Scripture will reveal no support of Sunday worship.

Moreover, the Bible says we ought to walk like Jesus walked.(1 Jn. 2:6). Jesus kept the Sabbath. Therefore we should keep it.

themall:
1. Why are you not keeping the Sabbath just as Christ kept it? - For the same reason why am not chasing out people who are selling olive oil, perfumed oil, white handkerchiefs, holy cross e.t.c at my parish.
2. Who are Christians? - Those who are going in through the narrow door. Which makes me to be scared for the many big broad and spacious churches with many big numbers.

Brother, who instructed you not to keep GOD's Sabbath?

DO you think only a small number of people will be in Heaven? Hehe, bro, narrowgate is not a church with small population.

Kassidy90:
My two questions are directed not to the OP alone but to all the Christians in d house...


1) how was Jesus crucified, on the pole or cross ?


2) which is the right day to go to church, Saturday or Sunday ?

1. On a cross.

2. Saturday.

themall:
Read my post again. {1 AD Christians + Sabbath-keeping}. Thank me later.
THEN of course, it is God's unchangeable Sabbath. Christians understand it in a different way to what the Jews and Sabbath-keepers understand.
Remember: Spiritual Jews are different to physical Jews.

Who are Christians? Those who follow Christ right?

Why are you not keeping the Sabbath just as Christ kept it?

JWs,

You claim you abide by the Bible. Can you give a Scriptural support for your observance of Sunday and your disregard for GOD's holy Sabbath?

themall:
1. Yes they did until 325AD Please, give source!
2. Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. After he died christian congregation might have rested on Sabbath, but nowhere is it in respect of the Mosaic Sabbath. No bible proof or is there?
3. Any christian celebrating of keeping the Sabbath, nails Christ to the cross afresh!

1. It's not hard to find out who tried to change GOD's unchangeable Sabbath. Read.

2. Well, you're right: the Sabbath is not Mosaic: it is GOD's unchangeable Sabbath.

3. Really? So Paul crucified Jesus afresh?

AyamConfidence:
APOSTATE

Why are you calling him "apostate"? Is he apostate in GOD's eye?

Jessicha:



nice thread, regarding those shouting hellfire as if Jesus ever pronounce it , ask them what goes to that hellfire is it the body , soul or spirit . they will start to vibrate .

Tell me, friend, what goes to hellfire?

dave1614:
you must be an atheist

Hahaha! NO! I'm a Christian, by GOD's grace. However, you have to sometimes ask serious questions to pull down falsehood!

jnrbayano:
"In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God."

"and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us"

That word who was with God in the beginning and also God from that same time and later became flesh, who dwelt among us is Jesus Christ.

What is wrong with Jehovah Witness adherents for crying out loud?

This is what is wrong with them:

"...Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not" Isa. 6:9

"...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause GOD shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness" 2 Thess. 2:10-12

Jozzy4:
John 5:19 answers you , he said he can't do anything on his own.

So, can Jesus Save anybody of His own? Yes or No?

Jozzy4:
" Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative " John 5:19

Answer Yes or No: can Jesus save anybody of His own?

Jozzy4:
Jews alone ko , Galatians ni. too bad

the point is Saviour . which is why I cited Judges 3:9, God raised othniel as saviour , same he did with Jesus .




the Septuagint admit two renderings for this verse . and the second rendering doesn't say He called Jesus God.

but this is lame since God himself call humans Gods ! forget the English tradition of small letter

Oh really? This is very funny. The capitel letter G there has no meaning?

LOL.

Jozzy4,

GOD sent othniel to save. We know that, of his own, Othniel had no power to save. GOD wrought mighty works through him.

Since GOD sent Jesus Christ as Saviour, does it mean Jesus has no power of His own to save anybody?

Jozzy4:
lol, which thing ?

That is left for you to find out.

Jozzy4:
smh for your poor understanding

Yes only Jehovah is the saviour , but he raised up people to act as saviour . for example.

@ Judges 3:9 Jehovah raise othniel as a saviour for the Israelites says the scripture. do u now mean othniel is Jehovah ? I don't know how you people think


about Jesus here is what the scripture says :

" the Father has SENT his son as Saviour of the world " 1 John 4:14

emphasis on sent , as he did in the case of othniel.

Isa. 43:11 wasn't talking of a Saviour for the Jews alone, we know. Yahweh says only He can save; How then is Jesus Christ also Saviour?

Isa. 45:5 says apart from YHWH, there is no other GOD. How then does YHWH say to Jesus Christ, "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever..." Psa. 45:6?

Jozzy4:
so come out straight before I burst out laughing , what is been referenced as spirit in Numbers 11:17 ?

The same thing being talked about when Elisha requested for a double portion of Elijah's spirit. (2 Kgs. 2:9)

Jozzy4:
Yes , only him is God Almighty - Exodus 6:3


that doesn't mean he doesn't proclaim others as gods , he called humans gods , so also he made mose a God to pharaoh .

but no one is called Almighty God except him. because he doesn't have a God

Isa. 43:11, Yahweh says beside Himself, there is no other Saviour.

How then could Jesus Christ be the Saviour of mankind?

Jozzy4:
its not reffering to holyspirit ?



moon was personified ! not a person

"All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of GOD is in my nostrils;" Job 27:3

JOB says the spirit of GOD was in his nostrils. So, the word "spirit" has more than one meaning in the Bible.

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Jozzy4:
Yahweh , the God of Jesus Christ

Good. YAHWEH says beside him, there is no other GOD. He doesn't recognise any other GOD, apart from Himself.

Do you agree?

Jozzy4:
hmm , see him .. but the authorized version said the holyspirit is an " it " ? do u agree ? Numbers 11:17 KJV

First of all, "holy" does not appear in Num. 11:17.

Secondly, KJV uses the possessive pronoun "her" for the moon in Mark 13:24. Is the moon a woman?

It's kind of funny that I just asked a simple, direct, yes-or-no question and somebody cannot give a straightfoward answer to it.

Jozzy4:
it has bearing on the question because Yahweh is the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob . and Jesus is his servant!

if you understand this , you will know they ain't equals .

Okay. Still, who was talking in those two verses?

Jozzy4:
is this how much you have been deceived ? if you ever know why I strike through as I did , the truth will set you free

Well, if you are going to talk to me about "YHWH" being removed from the Bible, then that's no argument, because it has no bearing on the question you quoted.

Now, answer the question you quoted.

truthislight:
SMH. what sort of translation is this one? it is not consistent with others on this.

Who bought God Yahweh up into existence?

Except otherwise stated, I quote the Authorized Version (KJV).

Most of these misleading versions were translated from the Authorized Version.

So, answer the question you quoted.