MrBrownJay1:


Educate yourself so i don't have to do it for you...again: There are 393M legally owned firearms in the US.FACT!

The fact that you remotely believe that every adult Americans can only buy ONE gun (when we all know that many are buying guns by the dozens) is your fail of the day.

The way some of us argue men!! It just shows how hopeless this country is.

How can a rational being be so wrong and be so confident that he is right. With no data, statistics or any fact to back his claim. They make mockery of the beauty of arguments.

Bunch of clowns!! Bane of the Black man!!

MrBrownJay1:


OK then... I guess there are more than 393M firearms in Nigeria then. Have a great day.

SMH. I just don't understand this misplaced overconfidence over a failed argument.

You not making sense and you still insist you are right. This is a very big problem for Nigerians. You think arguments are made to be won?

Arguements are resourceful exchange for attainment of more knowledge.

Black man mentality!!

plaindealer:



Unfortunately for you, your comparison was baseless, insane and irrational for one simple reason, there's nothing comparable about both places and this is the reason why you can not articulate any sane and rational solution regarding Lagos state.

To keep their streets clean in Kigali, they arrest and lock up street traders, hawkers and random citizens that they term undesirables, so, since you are comparing both places, to keep Lagos clean like Kigali, are you also saying we should do what they are doing in Kigali by arresting millions of street traders, hawkers and random citizens?

In one breath you are ranting and comparing cleanliness, but you don't want to compare the solution?

You are just a hypocrite, you want to compare and boast that Kigali is clean blah blah blah, but you don't want to compare and administer the same kigali solution.

Once again, are you willing to arrest and lock up millions of traders, hawkers and random people after tagging them as undesirables and after arresting and locking them up, after that, what are you going to do with them? Are you going to keep them locked up forever and feed them forever? Are you going to deport them somewhere? Are you going to barricade Lagos and prevent the thousands trooping into Lagos every day from entering Lagos?

I just want you to put your money where your mouth is instead of dancing around like frustrated ikoto..

Btw, if you truly have ideas, why is it so difficult for you to state them? Have I not sked you like a million times to state your ides?

You have zero ideas, all you know how to d is engage in blind, childish and baseless comparisons.

LOL!! I understand your frustrations and bitterness. The situation of the country must be biting hard on you. No wonder you are filled with so much bile and venom.... Oh jeez!! Pele!!

I cannot fix Lagos and I don't intend to, my points mean nothing to you simply because your poor exposure and primitive acumen falls within the range of your inept and do nothing Eba politicians.

You are a typical example of a Suffering but Smiling specimen and a mere victim of a third world poorly run country.

It is because of people like you there are almost zero chances of Nigerians choosing the right political leaders with innovation and creativity to turn things around. It is because of people like you Nigeria will remain hopelessly governed. What a pity... SMH.

Please stop transferring your bitterness to me and save me the few minutes of your pile of shit. Use that energy to better your life one way or the other. I am doing very well thank you and I don't need to smell your shit.

Good luck in life kid and save yourself the needless effort to reply.

plaindealer:



See, this is not election and we are not talking about election, this topic is you comparing Lagos with Rwanda/Kigali so stay on topic and quit dodging just because you can not support your illogical comparisons with rational and intelligent views.

If you are going to rant all day, bad mouth Lagos and blab about what we are doing wrong against what they are doing in Kigali, then you should be able to give us what we need to do and how to do it..

Olodo calling other people olodo, you can not even formulate a simple and common-sense solution to what you are raving about.

You are just a hypocrite, you rant so much but you have zero ideas, zero vision and zero sense of logic.

Like I elaborated earlier, there are many basis for comparisons that can be attributed to case studies. These comparisons are used to determine findings, data, underlining principles that can be studied and adopted.
But you are just too dense to understand the significance of such phenomenal.

You give silly reasons and excuses denouncing such comparisons just to toe your opinionated narrative.

Societies, scholars, and institutions make use of certain comparisons and there is no harm or wrong doing in it.

But I believe your background and educational orientation has blocked blankets your ability to comprehend a very simple discourse.

If you are asking for my ideas, I can simply give you some since I am like everyone else is entitled to my opinion. But if you are insisting I provide solutions it is just mere stupidity.

These are some findings....

1.Rwanda has proven to show great competence in building and sustaining institutions. A feat Lagos can adopt the underlying principles of such govemermental practice.

2. Rwanda has boosted Agriculture through hydroponics and Greenhouse farming using little space for huge agricultural development unhindered by weather or climatic conditions. Something Lagos can tap into....

3. Rwanda has shown it can recover from the most catastrophic conditions (Genocide) and become an example of a progressive society.

4. Rwanda has shown a rapid growth in Tourism, people from far and wide in millions annually visit Rwanda to see some Wildlife. Which Lagos can key into by having some rare wildlife. Dubai a desert city is doing it, many Western countries alien to such animals are doing it, I don't see why Lagos can't.

And that doesn't mean Rwanda cannot adopt some practices from Lagos. Especially in the entertainment segment.

Compasrions provide some learning curves from both sides...

plaindealer:


You did not offer any solution, all you kee repeating is government this and government that.

The government in Kigali is arresting and locking up street traders, street hawkers and ordinary citizens just to kae their city look clean.

Since you love to compare Nigeria with Kigali, are you also going to do what they are doing in Kigali by arresting and locking up millions of street traders, street hawkers and ordinary citizens to kae Lagos clean?

Tell us what you are going to dow with the millions of people trading, hawking and walking up and down the streets of LAGOS?

You sit here blabbing away about government and incompetence so since you are smarter than and more intelligent than government officials in Lagos, just explaing to us the best way and the best solution, explain what they should do or need to do with the millions of people they pulled off the streets of Lagos.

If you can not profer solutions, then keep quiet and stop comparing.

All you do is talk and talk, but you are shallow and empty.

See me see trouble o? Wetin concern me? I be Govt? Am I running or aspiring for office? Why are you so dense?

If I was aspiring for office then you could make such demands. I am not even residing in Nigeria and how do you want me to take care of your mess?

Please the only solution is to ensure you vote Leaders with pedigree, track record of colossal achievements in Management and a credible and ethical record.

Voting handpicked surrogates to run the affairs of the state is obviously not yielding the desired results. So you people should decide your leaders and stop requesting for my solution. I am a resident of a foreign country and I am happy where I am.

Good luck in life. Vent your anger and frustrations on your leaders, hold them accountable and not me. Olodo!!

myobjective:


Rwanda is basically a banana republic with a strong man dictator that west is in love with, all those beautiful pictures only mask the underlying poverty that the majority of the population is facing.

Until we restructured and allowed proper control of resources Lagos will continue to experience overcrowding. The immigration from other less poor region is placing a strain on the state.


Majority of you economic immigrant in Lagos don't contribute a dime to the cover of Lagos in your 2b2 shops, majority of you that don't obey traffic rules, don't dispose off your refuse properly will come here to badmouth Lagos.

Your position that Rwanda is a mere Banana Republic is strictly and exclusively your opinion. You have never been there to see things yourself and you ignorantly assume based on your sentimental attachment to your failed Govt system.

I have lived in Rwanda and I can tell you authoritatively that Rwanda is in any way ahead of us in Management, Governmental operational systems, in Institutional development systems etc....

We can actually learn a few things on how they were able to turn around a war torn country into a jewel country of limitless possibilities.

You pride yourself with a primitive and archaic Govt and fail to hold your Govt accountable. Why don't you focus your energy in ensuring you vote leaders that have the pedigree and capability to manage both the human and material resources of your societie and leave Rwanda alone?

plaindealer:
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What is your own solution, all people like you do is cry, yell and make childish comparisons, but when called upon to offer solutions, they are all of a sudden deaf and dumb.

if you don't have any solution or formulate any sane and intelligent remedies, why compare yourselves with other people?

If you think we must be like them, then tell us how and how to get there.

Shows how shallow and pointless you people are

I have told you my solution. If you feel the present Govt is unable to profer solution to your basic and strategic demands you simply vote them out and vote in someone capable of doing your bidding. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

You people are just unbelievable. You want change but you vote the same inept Govt to champion the change you crave so much. And you blame people with no connection or reltion with the Govt for your lack!! You need your brains checked.

plaindealer:



See, this is the problem with you people, you shout and rant all day, but you are void of basic solutions, basic ideas and vision.

This is a discussion between me and you, not the government, you have so much to say about what the government should do and how they need to make and enforce laws, but you are clueless per what happenes after that?

See how shallow you are?

You love to compare like little kids, but you can not offer a simple solution if the people in kigali cleaned up their city by arresting and locking up their own citizens, why not come out and do the same lame and shallow comparison that you wnt the Lagos state government to arrest and lock up millions of people, where to keep, house and feed millions of jobless people you pulled off the streets and locked up.

If you want to compare yourself with any place, are you willing to do what the people you are comparing your=self with do to their own people? Of course, you are not, you are just a bunch of hypocrites making dumb noise with zero understanding of what you are saying.

This is the problem with these Nigerian youths, all they do is wail and make silly noises, but they have ideas, zero solution or vision.

This joker ranted all day and compare all day about the government and law enforcement, but when asked to give his own views per what happens next, he's all of a sudden dumb and deaf.

1. I am not your governor and I don't intend runing for it either.

2. I have left your country because I realised long before now that your leaders are complete jokers and lack the basic strategy to run a 21st Century society.

3. If you want solution so bad hold your Govt accountable and don't hold me. I am in no position to be held accountable so pour your frustration on your Govt and not me Biko!!

4. If you are too crude minded to understand my point and basis of this well stretched argument, then you definitely need to have your brain checked, no offence.

5. If your Govt are clueless vote them out and vote in people with pedigree. I know there are many Nigerians with enviable capabilities home and abroad. But the problem is you people always vote for mediocre handpicked candidates from your Godfather. And when things go bad, instead of taking it out on the Govt, you dweebs take it out on me and my likes. What a joke....

Good luck in life!! My deluded compatriot

plaindealer:







Look at them, this is what they did when Fashola tried to clean up Lagos.

Hypocrites..

You need to learn to hold your Govt accountable. One of the biggest bane of socio-economical development of black Africa is the nonchalant disposition you dweebs show in holding your leaders accountable for their inactions.

If Fashola failed but tired and you give him a pat on the back for that, why take it out on me? Why not hold him accountable and vote in someone from another party who can bring the needed change?

But as usual you guys are self-denial and disoriented. Suffering but Smiling folks. Good luck in life!!

plaindealer:



See, you keep ranting and writing needless essays about laws and enforcements as if we don't know the meaning of laws and enforcement.

Yes, laws have to be enforced, but then what? Ban street trading and hawking, pick up and lock up people walking up and down the street that you term undesirables?

After banning street trading and hawking and rendering millions of people jobless or after arresting and locking them up, what next? What are you going to do with them?

Tell us what you are going to do with millions of jobless people?

And after doing all that, what about the thousands entering Lagos every day to do the same thing?

Laws enforcement sounds good, but it's not your solution, it's not how you stop people from trooping to Lagos every day to constitute nuisance and overburden the resourced and dirty the environment.

Abeg, enough of the simplistic and naive essays about law enforcement, the National structural issues that necessitate people leaving their filed states to seek refuge and survival in Lagos should be your primary focus because if you don't deal with, you are just spinning your wheels.

In your come back post, make sure you explain to us how to round up the millions of traders and street hawkers in Lagos and what you intend to do with them.

LOL!! I understand your frustrations.... But you need to save your emotions and frustrations on the Govt you put in the office through elections and not me.

Any Govt that doesn't have a contingent plan to manage it's high population has no business in governance. You voted your Govt in and had reasons to vote him, follow his plan or vote him out next election.

My purpose in this discourse is mainly to justify the importance of comparisons and explain the significance of population as an asset. Which I have done and achieved.

The failure of your Govt to profer solution or their ineptitude in same regard is solely between you the electorate.

Rwanda have credible institutions and they have shown great governance in sustaining a very robust and effective institutions over the years. Give them credit!!

If your Govt is not working for you vote them out and try another. Nigeria is just a place were people vote the same people and they complain things are not working.....

Good luck in life..

NGpatriot:



This is the main crux, as a society, we complain and blame the government for everything under the sun even for our own unruly and dirty behavior. yes, we can not excuse away leadership incompetence in Nigeria because it is prevalent, but are we ready to pay the price for cleanliness and orderliness.

This is why we shouldn't make illogical comparisons because there's a reason for the cleanliness you see in Kigali, they did something to achieve that, something you in Nigeria can not allow or abide by so why are you comparing yourself with them?

When the government in Lagos did exactly what they are doing in Kigali, the same dirty and unruly people with their supporters on the internet, even here on NL rained insults and abuse on the Lagos state government, they screamed tribalism, they yelled tyranny, cruelty and so on.

The fact is, before posting rubbish to compare yourself with other people, first ask yourself if you are willing to act and behave the way other people behave to attain a clean and sane society.

Basically, practice what you preach.

Here we go again. You seem to be going round in circles. But I am very glad you understand my points and have accepted them.

It is the failure of the Govt to allow nonadherence to rules and regulations not the people. Govt who make excuses and give compromises are not fit to lead. That is why Nigeria just like you keep going round in circles.

I have lived abroad most part of my adult life and I understand the importance of adherence to laws and conducts. Lagos is a lawless land and the epicentre of lawlessness in Nigeria. I am aware that the State Govt and his deputy often do traffic watch and apprehend several traffic offenders erverytime. They are both fed up of such nuisance...

Comparing Lagos with Rwanda provides a case study on how effective Laws are being managed by Govt authorities, amongst other factors. Which Lagos can emulate and bring some sense of sanity to the polity.

But I bet it is pretty difficult for your comprehension. Maybe some day when you much older you would understand.

Good luck in life.

NGpatriot:



Is banning street trading, street hawking and arresting a segment of the population because they are undesirables ok and the reason why is to make Kigali look clean.


Yes Or No?

A ban must be respected. Those that are arrested are against the law of the land. That simple.

We Nigerians sometimes hate to follow the law and yet cry fowl when apprehended for disobedience.

The Rwandan government are very strict with their laws and they don't make compromises like we often do.

NGpatriot:


I just need you to explain to us why Kigali doesn't allow street trading, hawking and why they round up and arrest and lock up their own people as undesirables instead of welcoming and accepting them as population assets.

Just answer this simple question, I've asked like a million time

Street Hawking are allowed in Up-country areas. That is in rural areas. Kigali is an international city and must meet the international standards as defined by the government at all cost.

They have Okada in Kigali but only one passenger and the passenger must have an helmet on......

They set rules and they make sure the rules are 100% met with 0 compromise.

Something we need to learn in Lagos. Do you know since when they have been trying to implement helmet and over carrying passengers in Lagos. I was shocked to see 5 people mounted on a bike in Lagos....

NGpatriot:




Congrats and Good luck on your marriage, but I just need you to explain to us why Kigali doesn't allow street trading, hawking and why they round up and arrest and lock up their own people as undesirables instead of welcoming and accepting them as population assets.

Just answer this simple question, I've asked like a million times.

Thank you I truly appreciate. We can argue and not call names....

Street Hawking are allowed in Up-country areas. That is in rural areas. Kigali is an international city and must meet the international standards as defined by the government at all cost.

They have Okada in Kigali but only one passenger and the passenger must have an helmet on......

They set rules and they make sure the rules are 100% met with 0 compromise.

Something we need to learn in Lagos. Do you know since when they have been trying to implement helmet and over carrying passengers in Lagos. I was shocked to see 5 people mounted on a bike in Lagos....

NGpatriot:



You just lack the capacity to read and comprehend English words..

Show me where I asserted that population is not an asset.

I'm obviously not interested if population is an asset or not and that's a different debate, my question is if population is an asset, why are they rounding up people and locking them up, why are they getting rid of their population just to make their city look good.

If population is truly an asset as you claim,why is it the other way around ion Kigali.

This is the question I need you to answer.

Maybe you cannot remember or you are just being denial. I have lived in Rwanda, I am married to a Tutsi Rwandan Lady. There are several Nigerian communities in Rwanda, there are several African communities there as well, there are several foreign investors and hundreds of thousands of tourists pouring in Rwanda..... These facts are contrary to your poor assumptions. So you are wrong!!

So I really don't know what you are trying to mislead or confuse yourself over this discourse. I rarely argue here on Nairaland except I am 100% sure of myself.

NGpatriot:






Here.


Do you suggest that to keep Lagos clean, Lagos should adopt the same policy in Kigali where they don't allow street trading, hawking or just lock up people that they consider to be undesirable.?


Again, if population is an asset, why is Kigali getting rid of it's population?


Just answer.

1. There is no perfect Society anywhere in the world. I live in Ottawa in Canada and I see Canadians on the streets begging for $1, homeless and jobless. The point is we can adopt some of their practises that makes them outstanding in some of their fields and discard others that are not. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that.

2. I married a Rwandan Lady (Tutsi) and I have been to Kigali several times. The cleanliness of the City is second to none. They don't allow nylon bags it is banned in the city..... So I know what I am saying and not just talking out of ignorance.

3. Rwanda has one of the best Ease for doing business on the earth today attracting investors from all over the world. Their tourism has quadrupled and every year it spikes. Their Air liner is world class and flies international something Lagos can learn from.

NGpatriot:







That was your crooked, deceptive and lying understanding of what I said Yes, it is perfectly OK to compare and intelligent people compare everyday,but they do so with sane logic and comparable indices and analyses


...but you on the other hand, you compare based on ignorance, baseless and illogical comparison.

Pay attention to reading and comprehension.

You should know and learn how to handle corrections and accept defeat.

I had 2 main objectives and I am very glad I was able to achieve them.

1. Explaining that population is an asset and not a liability.

2. Proving the necessity of societal comparisons.

So I really don't know why you are getting so emotional and typing ignorance.... I have proved my points and you have admitted to them.

NGpatriot:



Population could be an asset,but explain to us why Kigali is trimming and getting rid of it's population instead of welcoming and accepting them as asset, this is what I need you to answer instead of dodging around.

I don't know where you got your misguided facts from. But recently Rwanda volunteered to receive refugee migrants deported from Israel. Also, Rwanda is home to several refugees from Congo and Burundi.

NGpatriot:
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Still struggling with baseless and ignorant comparisons.

1. California is a developed state in the US with a budget of $215 billion, Nigeria's budget is $33 billion

2. Los Angeles with 4 million people, budget is $36.1 billion, more than Nigeria's budget.

3.Lagos with 20 plus million people, the budget is $2 billion.

So,where is the sense and logic in your upside down comparison?

Yes, it is perfectly OK to compare and intelligent people compare everyday,but they do so with sane logic and comparable indices and analyses.

I just like the way you stylishly admitted your lapses. You don't know how I glad I feel about your admittance.

But your pride appears to your biggest impediment. Even though you contradict yourself by condemning the importance of comparison and ending by saying it is perfectly ok.... I am still glad that you have been schooled today.

More so, I am glad that today you have come to know that high population is not just a liability but potential wealth when managed well by the Govt.

Good luck in life and let me know if you still need more schooling?

NGpatriot:


Being patriotic or not is not the basis for intelligent reasoning and logical comparison.

Lagos state and Rwanda have nothing in common so there'snot reason for illogical and baseless comparison.

You can not educate me based on ignorant and unintelligent comparisons.



You can not educate me based on ignorant and unintelligent comparisons.



There's difference between GDP and state budget. They don't run governments with GDP,they do so with budgets.

America and countries with the largest GDPs in the world still borrow trillions to formulate their operating budgets.

Again, if you are going to compare, do so with logic and sane comparisons.





Again, if population is really an asset, why are they getting rid of their population in Kigali? Why not just accept them to constitute nuisance, do street trading, hawk goods on the roads and bridges, dirty the environment like they do in Lagos?

[s][/s]


Thanks for not going into details because your needless essay is getting boring.

Very pathetic my fellow patriot. You seem not to grasp much or maybe your passionate drive to believe you can win on arguments based on typing nonsensical shenanigans outshines your drive for knowledge. LOL!!

Comparisons are necessary to understand and determine case studies and the underlining principles. But I guess you are rather too naive to know that.

California years back was the 4th largest economy some years back and was used as a case study in comparison with other Nations....

There is nothing at all wrong in making certain comparisons between societies, states or Nations. Many scholastic comparisons are made to determine findings, factors, data etc....

It is very lame and ignorant to claim there cannot be a basis for comparison between Lagos and Rwanda.

Now that we have made it very clear...

Rwanda's depopulation or rather genocide was an ethnic cleansing and not and economical policy. It is a shame you could bring this up thinking you are making a point.... Very unintelligent of you really.

Sometimes such comparisons are used as a means to identify and adopt governmental and economical best practises. An example is the Smart Dubai project... Of which many countries (Rwanda inclusive) and cities are adopting including Lagos which is struggling to adopt. But ignorance and poor exposure are blanketing you from understanding such indices.

So small pikin, There is need for comparisons.

NGpatriot:



Again, ignorance shouldn't be the basis for your illogical and irrelevant comparisons, if you are going to compare, common dictate that you compare based on similar scenario from top to bottom.

Kigali is not accepting millions of people from failed states all over Nigeria including your own state like Lagos is doing by accepting the poor and the jobless to constitute nuisance and dirty the streets of Lagos.

Kigali is not saddled with 20 million people, they don't have hundreds of thousands of trailers or Dangote trucks battering and grounding their roads into pulp.

When Lagos asked for special status and funds to take care of the people from failed states trooping into Lagos everyday, your own useless leaders voted it down and anti Lagos people like you rejoiced and celebrated that brain dead decision.

Please state categorically that you want Lagos to do what they are doing in Kigali by rounding up and locking up street traders, hawkers and people with no business n the streets of Lagos state or even anywhere in Lagos.

I understand your patriotism and it clearly blinds you from being rational. To advance well in debates you must be and I repeat must be less emotional and more logical.

I will further educate you so you can have a clear insight and not be lost in your web of nonsensical shenanigans.

1. Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa. Since the Govt boasts about this claim there should be no issue comparing Lagos to Rwanda.

2. Population is not a liability but an asset and wealth. The fact that Lagos state houses every Tom Dick and Adamu is to her advantage.

We in Nigeria have a very big problem managing both human and other resources.

Rwanda has been able to put in place a system that works and attracts tourism in a safe and easy to do business environment.

Whether a society has overpopulation or underpopulation doesn't really matter. It is the leadership and the vision of that society.

Lagos is just a pile of I chop you chop. The $1.5 billion obtained for the metro system is gone and nothing to show for it.
The Lagos badagry express way is still in the blueprint....

The BRT of yesterday is now Moluè of today. Only for Ambode to abandon it and reintroduced a new busing system.

Take a look at the road networks.....

I don't want to go into details....

But we surely lack the leadership and management capabilities to maximise our potentials.

NGpatriot:



Your essay self defeated itself with your assertion that population is an asset and not liability, this is a layman's reasoning and simplistic viewpoint simply because they don't even acknowledge this fact in Rwanda with their draconian government policies that rounds up people from their streets and lock them up or deport them out of the cities so of what relevance is population in Rwanda when in fact they do away with them and spend their money on the little people in Kigali and a few places they clean up for western cameras?

Kigali is in fact a very poor city with poverty at it's very core and last time I checked, Lagos with all the issues, extra burden and pressure the failed states in Nigeria including yours put on Lagos state, it's still full of many beautiful places and better looking buildings than the ugly rubbish the OP posted.

Maybe to have enough resources to spend on a small segment on the population just like Kigali, Lagos should round up and lock up the millions of people trading, hawking,roaming around Lagos state and putting pressure on their resources.

I can see clearly that you are stubbornly ignorant. And I find it very funny that a rational being like yourself would claim Population as wealth is a layman's term. You are notoriously poorly educated LOL!! But I don't blame you, I blame the system that moulded you.

You fail to understand that population is a major resources and much more resourceful than the monetary resources you wrongly consider. In Japan the greatest resources are it's population. That is why even though they lack steel, Iron and other vital resources for industry, they are among the most industrialized countries on earth.

Advanced countries all over the world are looking for ways to attract more population because they understand the importance and value of the kind of Wealth derived from it. But it in this part of the world we are complaining that population is our problem.

Advanced societies are investing heavily on human development, understanding the importance and effectiveness. But in Nigeria we continue our Eba politics and maladministrtation.

We will continue to remain a potential giant unless and a very big pile of shit if we fail to take advantage of the numbers we have and utilise them.

Lagos having 20 million or over is no excuse. Govt should be able to use the advantage for growth and development.

NGpatriot:


1. Your first act of ignorance is the ignorant assertion you people make about wealth or stupendous wealth. What exactly is stupendous wealth?

A less than $3 billion budget state with over 20 million people with tens of thousands trooping in every week with no money, no where to live or how to exist or even pay taxes burdening and exerting pressure on available meager resources and infrastructure is a very very poor state.

If you don't know the meaning of wealth, look it up in the dictionary.

2. If you are going to make comparisons, first give Kigali over 20 million people to manage with tens oh thousands trooping in every week with nowhere to go, nowhere to sleep but end up on the streets begging, street hawking, littering and burdening the environment with waste and so on.

And while you are at it, please tell them in Kigali not to remove their citizens from the streets to lock up in warehouses like prisoners because they street trading or because they don't look pretty or presentable to foreign and western cameras.


3. Ignorance is making illogical comparisons with entities baring nothing in common from top to bottom.

If people like you are really concerned about Lagos state, first pressure your own state governors all across Nigeria to do better, to give your people better governance and quality of life to prevent them from trooping to Lagos for survival.

I really don't blame you for your inability to understand the depth and ramifications of Wealth and resources of any given society. Your lack of understanding is merely a reflection of your crass mundane disposition on socio-economic development.

It is just an evidence that your poor education has made you deluded from reality of common sense and knowledge from a global perspective.

But don't worry, I will educate you and perhaps provide some enlightenment to your jaded and primitive views on socio-economic development.

People of very low IQ don't understand that population (Human resources) is wealth.

Population is a major resources of any society and a major wealth indicator when managed properly. But people of very low intelligence and primitive thinking see it as a liability and not wealth.

With that type of primitive mindset, not able to manage the population advantage of any given society, there is no way the society will be able to maximize it's full potential.

One of the major setbacks many Africans have is our inability to think out of the box.

People who equate wealth to monetary resources are shallow and partially disoriented. Wealth of any society is determined by the availability of a very large market, thriving economic policies that maximises the potential of the average individual and advanced educational institutions for continuous improvement.

So yes Lagos has stupendous wealth. Only that most people are too idiotic to understand and utilise.

Societies with the largest population have learned to use that kind of Wealth to work for them. By providing policies and available resources for continuous growth and development.

That is why India with over 1.2 billion people has been replaced by Nigeria 190 million people as the world most populous impoverished nation on earth.

I hope now you have a proper insight on this discourse. If not, I will be happy to educate you further.

Rosskiki:


What ''stupendous resources''?

Dude, Nigeria is not a rich country. Lagos is not rich. Our annual national budget is 28 billion USD, with 200 million people. South Africa's annual budget is 125 billion USD, with 56 million people.

Lagos that you say has ''stupendous resources'' is home to 25 million people, with an annual budget of 2 billion dollars. Los Angeles has just 4 million people with an annual budget of 10 billion USD. Tomorrow you will visit L.A. and start asking why Lagos is not like that.

Bro, we need to diversify and expand our economic output as a nation. We don't have the kind of money you think we do, even without corruption.

As for comparisons with Kigali, it's a far smaller city, pop. 859,000. Comparing it to 25 million-strong Lagos is really the height of madness.

Even more absurd is comparing Lagos, a city, to the entire country of Rwanda, based on selected pictures from Kigali!

You asked what stupendous resources?
Both Human and economical resources.

Let me educate you a little. Population is not a liability but an asset. The only reason we Nigerians view population as a liability is because of our inability to manage or our very poor management culture.

Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa. This boasting comes from the very Govt, so there is nothing wrong in comparing Lagos to a country since Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa.

Los Angeles is not a state, it is a city in California.....

Lagos resources are humongous. Having the largest market in Nigeria, highest labour force in Nigeria, highest productivity in Nigeria and largest potential..... But the question is can the Govt manage the resources of Lagos? He'll no they can't.

In Lagos one man pockets a chunk of 15% of every inland revenue generated by the Lagos Govt every month.

In Lagos a few people connected to Govt corner choice land properties rather than turning them into industries or Green house farming sites.

Lagos has the potential to Supply Fish to the whole of Nigeria and other parts of non-coastal regions in West Africa due to it's choice loaction and resources but Govt is far from being productive.

Lagos has the potential capitalise and invest massively on entertainment in a such a way that our movie industries will have the state of the art equipments and knowhow, matching our media output with India and the West and exporting our media to other African countries like DSTV or Cinemas through PPP (Public Private Partnership). But still we lack productivity.

Lagos has the potential to select and train a plethora of people who show ingenous skills in IT related fields. Making Lagos the Hub of African IT development. Which will enable the Global market patronising Lagos due to affordability and quality. But as usual the Govt lacks productivity.

I can go on and on.... We lack both governmental and managerial skills.... All we know is Eba politics... Very poor govt and economical policies.

The private sector are responsible for the growth of Lagos but the Govt takes the glory and yet cannot manage common good road networks.... It is a very big shame.

You need to open your eyes and see things clearly.

Blackvic1:
everything about the country is filled with lies even the foundation was based on lies..United Kingdom 1960 was 52million and Nigeria’s was 45million then fast forward to 2019 the same uk is 67million and Nigeria is 180million considering mass Immigration to the uk from Europe Africa etc and considering high death rates in Nigeria it doesn’t make any sense... I have gone to some northern states in the past the population isn’t that much empty streets empty villages empty houses even in south west the population isn’t that much except Ibadan and lagos same with south east it’s only enugu and onitsha that has a bit of high population then the south south are few so how did we come about the 180m who counted it,in 2019 we can’t boost of portable water and 24hours Electricity and people are here fighting over apc and pdp forgetting that all this people still come together to share money and women in Abuja as Far as am concerned Rwanda is better considering they just fought a civil war few years ago with little or no resources just coffee and they are doing well for themselves technologicaly economically it has nothing to do with patriotism you give credit to where it is due

Well said!!

Blackvic1:
seriously you are wasting your time engaging with this people, they are used to mediocrity that they see it as normal, lagos is a failed state as well as every state in Nigeria I just wish the so called leaders can be as wicked as kagame and still provide 24hrs electricity with standard roads that doesn’t spoil after few months / years I will keep saying that we are too dumb in this country I swear , no light no water no road no health care no security and we are still clamoring for giant of Africa my foot , I have been opportuned to visit Rwanda they are miles ahead of us and for our fake 180m population that we use in making mouth abeg who counted us ? Everything about this country is filled with lies I don’t think lagos state is up to 20m who counted it and I don’t think nigeria is up to 100m till they count it head to head and the last population census was a scam

Well said bro. Even though they conduct population census today they will rig the result to favour one side of the country.

I left Nigeria for good this year. Nigeria is very hopeless and I see it going through the toughest challenge next year. When hyper inflation hits up again from VAT, Wage increase, VAT on online transaction, Federal Toll Gates etc...

The mumu of Nigerians and the wayo of the Government is just too much for me to handle. Imagine a nation much more interested in BBN than the political future.... God help us all....

NGpatriot:



During your travel to Rwanda, I'm very sure you missed all the dirty slums around Kigali, not too far from the 2 pictures in this thread.

There are better looking places and pictures in Lagos than the rubbish pictures from Rwanda in this thread.

You know the biggest problem about ignorance is insistence. Rwanda just came out from the worst Ethnic cleansing in modern history. But yet Kagame decided to MANAGE the resources available to him, turning the fortune of a war torn country into a spectacle of Economic and social growth and development.

Look at Lagos state with all its stupendous resources still looking like a lump of shit.

Management is something we Nigerians hate to understand and embrace properly. Continuously we fail to show outstanding management in both human and natural resources.

Only wish you could look at things objectively and not emotional. Until you deluded people realise that your public officials should be held accountable and responsible for their Eba politics and maladministrtation before things begin to work better.

God help you!!

afroniger:


Guy, you are a well known Lagos hater so your opinion isn't worth nada. How big is Rwanda relative to Lagos? Rwanda is ruled by a sadistic dictator in the person of Kagame who does not tolerate opposition (he assisinates his critics, including those that fled Rwanda because of his dictatorial and iron fist regime), and most of the country's budget is financed by foreign donors and international bodies. You can only bamboozle your fellow ignoramuses. Rwanda is making developmental strides but I repeat that it is still nowhere near Lagos in terms of development, and you can take that to the bank.

Since you have never left Lagos before, I don't blame you.
As far as I am concerned, most Nigerians are deluded and blatantly disoriented to understand the misrule they are experiencing. This is dueto the fact that most of them have never travelled out to see things for themselves.

I have been to Rwanda, and I am convinced that Nigerians have a very long way to go.

Pinkybush:
Yes I submitted the LOA and Death Certificate to the bank, filled the form for the said account. They even said that they have done the search to confirm the authenticity of those documents and found them to be true copies. But the reason they have refused to open that account is what I don't know.

Just be patient. Wait till the 1st week of next month. Banks don't dole out such monies until after they have balanced their sheets at the end of the month.

So just exercise a little patience.

Kingpunter:
The African Giant has done it again!

Nigerian Artiste, Burna Boy has been making a lot of big moves internationally, lately. His recent album is making good numbers on the charts as well.

Oluwa Burna is set to appear on Popular American TV Show ‘The Daily Show’ hosted by African American Star, Trevor Noah.

This marks another milestone as he recently appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show, which is also a popular American TV show.


Burna Boy’s African Giant album climbed up No. 6 from No. 13 last week on the Billboard World Album Charts.

https://www./2019/08/burna-boy-to-appear-on-trevor-noahs-the-daily-show.html

Trevor Noah is not African American. He is purely a South African working in America.

Olodo!!