Osaze007:
Are they up to 20m no
So compare them to Akwa Ibom

Population should be an advantage. Ask China.

officially isn't Lagos 9m population wise with resources from the FG to her only for the supposed 9m while in reality ,more than 20m she caters for with all the attendant evil such deliberate sabotage heralds long before Tinubu? Isn't to Tinubu invaluable audacity should go gratitudes for confronting this wicked injustice by the Nigerian political elite class? Op come on ,do you know Lagos before the advent of Tinubu? Despite this, Lagos can do more.

I am not sure why the comparison is being done with Lagos in particular as there is a general problem with government expenditure in Nigeria partly due to high recurrent expenditure ratio. Way too much spending is swallowed up by wages and debt repayments.

Look at all those Niger-Delta state governments - Rivers, Delta, Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom. With the exception of Bayelsa, each intends to spend over $1bn in 2019 and will have barely anything to show for it re infrastructure.

So Lagos is just a symptom of a general dysfunction in government fiscal policy. What may be unique about Lagos's situation is its much underestimated (in Nigeria) debt burden incurred to a great extent during the much praised Fashola years. Some of that debt was dollar denominated and the overall burden has increased with currency depreciation.

With no credible plan to break the dysfunctional spending cycle, the coming years will test the propagandizing skills of our paid online propagandists.

Rosskiki:


China and Taiwan are the exceptions. The norm for large developing countries are Nigeria, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Ethiopia, Sudan, Egypt, etc.

never settle for less mr man...Nigeria can also be an exception...Don't sound weak and impaired..

NGpatriot:



You are wrong and off base on so many level.

1. Rwanda budget is actually $3.17 billion.

2. The population in Rwanda is 12 million against 20 million in Lagos, meaning we spend more on everything due to population alone and everything that comes with.

I don't know why you people love to make ignorant comparisons just to run down and badmouth your own country.

Take your patroitism aside....

Lagos is a shithole....

Is it more populated than Delhi or Beijing or Hongkong or Shaghai or Calcutta? And yet these places are well managed.

Abegi

Blackvic1:
everything about the country is filled with lies even the foundation was based on lies..United Kingdom 1960 was 52million and Nigeria’s was 45million then fast forward to 2019 the same uk is 67million and Nigeria is 180million considering mass Immigration to the uk from Europe Africa etc and considering high death rates in Nigeria it doesn’t make any sense... I have gone to some northern states in the past the population isn’t that much empty streets empty villages empty houses even in south west the population isn’t that much except Ibadan and lagos same with south east it’s only enugu and onitsha that has a bit of high population then the south south are few so how did we come about the 180m who counted it,in 2019 we can’t boost of portable water and 24hours Electricity and people are here fighting over apc and pdp forgetting that all this people still come together to share money and women in Abuja as Far as am concerned Rwanda is better considering they just fought a civil war few years ago with little or no resources just coffee and they are doing well for themselves technologicaly economically it has nothing to do with patriotism you give credit to where it is due

Well said!!

Rosskiki:


What ''stupendous resources''?

Dude, Nigeria is not a rich country. Lagos is not rich. Our annual national budget is 28 billion USD, with 200 million people. South Africa's annual budget is 125 billion USD, with 56 million people.

Lagos that you say has ''stupendous resources'' is home to 25 million people, with an annual budget of 2 billion dollars. Los Angeles has just 4 million people with an annual budget of 10 billion USD. Tomorrow you will visit L.A. and start asking why Lagos is not like that.

Bro, we need to diversify and expand our economic output as a nation. We don't have the kind of money you think we do, even without corruption.

As for comparisons with Kigali, it's a far smaller city, pop. 859,000. Comparing it to 25 million-strong Lagos is really the height of madness.

Even more absurd is comparing Lagos, a city, to the entire country of Rwanda, based on selected pictures from Kigali!

You asked what stupendous resources?
Both Human and economical resources.

Let me educate you a little. Population is not a liability but an asset. The only reason we Nigerians view population as a liability is because of our inability to manage or our very poor management culture.

Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa. This boasting comes from the very Govt, so there is nothing wrong in comparing Lagos to a country since Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa.

Los Angeles is not a state, it is a city in California.....

Lagos resources are humongous. Having the largest market in Nigeria, highest labour force in Nigeria, highest productivity in Nigeria and largest potential..... But the question is can the Govt manage the resources of Lagos? He'll no they can't.

In Lagos one man pockets a chunk of 15% of every inland revenue generated by the Lagos Govt every month.

In Lagos a few people connected to Govt corner choice land properties rather than turning them into industries or Green house farming sites.

Lagos has the potential to Supply Fish to the whole of Nigeria and other parts of non-coastal regions in West Africa due to it's choice loaction and resources but Govt is far from being productive.

Lagos has the potential capitalise and invest massively on entertainment in a such a way that our movie industries will have the state of the art equipments and knowhow, matching our media output with India and the West and exporting our media to other African countries like DSTV or Cinemas through PPP (Public Private Partnership). But still we lack productivity.

Lagos has the potential to select and train a plethora of people who show ingenous skills in IT related fields. Making Lagos the Hub of African IT development. Which will enable the Global market patronising Lagos due to affordability and quality. But as usual the Govt lacks productivity.

I can go on and on.... We lack both governmental and managerial skills.... All we know is Eba politics... Very poor govt and economical policies.

The private sector are responsible for the growth of Lagos but the Govt takes the glory and yet cannot manage common good road networks.... It is a very big shame.

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donfineboi:


You know the biggest problem about ignorance is insistence. Rwanda just came out from the worst Ethnic cleansing in modern history. But yet Kagame decided to MANAGE the resources available to him, turning the fortune of a war torn country into a spectacle of Economic and social growth and development.

Look at Lagos state with all its stupendous resources still looking like a lump of shit.

Management is something we Nigerians hate to understand and embrace properly. Continuously we fail to show outstanding management in both human and natural resources.

Only wish you could look at things objectively and not emotional. Until you deluded people realise that your public officials should be held accountable and responsible for their Eba politics and maladministrtation before things begin to work better.

God help you!!

1. Your first act of ignorance is the ignorant assertion you people make about wealth or stupendous wealth. What exactly is stupendous wealth?

A less than $3 billion budget state with over 20 million people with tens of thousands trooping in every week with no money, no where to live or how to exist or even pay taxes burdening and exerting pressure on available meager resources and infrastructure is a very very poor state.

If you don't know the meaning of wealth, look it up in the dictionary.

2. If you are going to make comparisons, first give Kigali over 20 million people to manage with tens oh thousands trooping in every week with nowhere to go, nowhere to sleep but end up on the streets begging, street hawking, littering and burdening the environment with waste and so on.

And while you are at it, please tell them in Kigali not to remove their citizens from the streets to lock up in warehouses like prisoners because they street trading or because they don't look pretty or presentable to foreign and western cameras.


3. Ignorance is making illogical comparisons with entities baring nothing in common from top to bottom.

If people like you are really concerned about Lagos state, first pressure your own state governors all across Nigeria to do better, to give your people better governance and quality of life to prevent them from trooping to Lagos for survival.

donfineboi:


You asked what stupendous resources?
Both Human and economical resources.

Let me educate you a little. Population is not a liability but an asset. The only reason we Nigerians view population as a liability is because of our inability to manage or our very poor management culture.

Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa. This boasting comes from the very Govt, so there is nothing wrong in comparing Lagos to a country since Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa.

Los Angeles is not a state, it is a city in California.....

Lagos resources are humongous. Having the largest market in Nigeria, highest labour force in Nigeria, highest productivity in Nigeria and largest potential..... But the question is can the Govt manage the resources of Lagos? He'll no they can't.

In Lagos one man pockets a chunk of 15% of every inland revenue generated by the Lagos Govt every month.

In Lagos a few people connected to Govt corner choice land properties rather than turning them into industries or Green house farming sites.

Lagos has the potential to Supply Fish to the whole of Nigeria and other parts of non-coastal regions in West Africa due to it's choice loaction and resources but Govt is far from being productive.

Lagos has the potential capitalise and invest massively on entertainment in a such a way that our movie industries will have the state of the art equipments and knowhow, matching our media output with India and the West and exporting our media to other African countries like DSTV or Cinemas through PPP (Public Private Partnership). But still we lack productivity.

Lagos has the potential to select and train a plethora of people who show ingenous skills in IT related fields. Making Lagos the Hub of African IT development. Which will enable the Global market patronising Lagos due to affordability and quality. But as usual the Govt lacks productivity.

I can go on and on.... We lack both governmental and managerial skills.... All we know is Eba politics... Very poor govt and economical policies.

The private sector are responsible for the growth of Lagos but the Govt takes the glory and yet cannot manage common good road networks.... It is a very big shame.

You need to open your eyes and see things clearly.

Your essay self defeated itself with your assertion that population is an asset and not liability, this is a layman's reasoning and simplistic viewpoint simply because they don't even acknowledge this fact in Rwanda with their draconian government policies that rounds up people from their streets and lock them up or deport them out of the cities so of what relevance is population in Rwanda when in fact they do away with them and spend their money on the little people in Kigali and a few places they clean up for western cameras?

Kigali is in fact a very poor city with poverty at it's very core and last time I checked, Lagos with all the issues, extra burden and pressure the failed states in Nigeria including yours put on Lagos state, it's still full of many beautiful places and better looking buildings than the ugly rubbish the OP posted.

Maybe to have enough resources to spend on a small segment on the population just like Kigali, Lagos should round up and lock up the millions of people trading, hawking,roaming around Lagos state and putting pressure on their resources.

NGpatriot:


1. Your first act of ignorance is the ignorant assertion you people make about wealth or stupendous wealth. What exactly is stupendous wealth?

A less than $3 billion budget state with over 20 million people with tens of thousands trooping in every week with no money, no where to live or how to exist or even pay taxes burdening and exerting pressure on available meager resources and infrastructure is a very very poor state.

If you don't know the meaning of wealth, look it up in the dictionary.

2. If you are going to make comparisons, first give Kigali over 20 million people to manage with tens oh thousands trooping in every week with nowhere to go, nowhere to sleep but end up on the streets begging, street hawking, littering and burdening the environment with waste and so on.

And while you are at it, please tell them in Kigali not to remove their citizens from the streets to lock up in warehouses like prisoners because they street trading or because they don't look pretty or presentable to foreign and western cameras.


3. Ignorance is making illogical comparisons with entities baring nothing in common from top to bottom.

If people like you are really concerned about Lagos state, first pressure your own state governors all across Nigeria to do better, to give your people better governance and quality of life to prevent them from trooping to Lagos for survival.

I really don't blame you for your inability to understand the depth and ramifications of Wealth and resources of any given society. Your lack of understanding is merely a reflection of your crass mundane disposition on socio-economic development.

It is just an evidence that your poor education has made you deluded from reality of common sense and knowledge from a global perspective.

But don't worry, I will educate you and perhaps provide some enlightenment to your jaded and primitive views on socio-economic development.

People of very low IQ don't understand that population (Human resources) is wealth.

Population is a major resources of any society and a major wealth indicator when managed properly. But people of very low intelligence and primitive thinking see it as a liability and not wealth.

With that type of primitive mindset, not able to manage the population advantage of any given society, there is no way the society will be able to maximize it's full potential.

One of the major setbacks many Africans have is our inability to think out of the box.

People who equate wealth to monetary resources are shallow and partially disoriented. Wealth of any society is determined by the availability of a very large market, thriving economic policies that maximises the potential of the average individual and advanced educational institutions for continuous improvement.

So yes Lagos has stupendous wealth. Only that most people are too idiotic to understand and utilise.

Societies with the largest population have learned to use that kind of Wealth to work for them. By providing policies and available resources for continuous growth and development.

That is why India with over 1.2 billion people has been replaced by Nigeria 190 million people as the world most populous impoverished nation on earth.

I hope now you have a proper insight on this discourse. If not, I will be happy to educate you further.

If you hypocrites really want Lagos to Look clean and beautiful like deceptive and imaginary clean looking Kigali, tell Lagos state to do what they are doing in Kigali, tell them to round up and lock up the people in the pictures below and prevent them from entering Lagos state.

These are what they call undesirables in Kigali.

Lagos is a reflection of your own failed states, your own failed and incompetent governors because their's no reason for able bodied men and women to leave their own states just to hawk, sell and constitute nuisance on the streets of Lagos.

All the waste generated by millions of street traders and hawkers ends up on the streets of Lagos and inside drainage and when rain floods, the same hypocrite swill rush to the social media to yell failed state and dirty Lagos.

Nigeria is the only place where people want to live in a clean and sane society but not willing to take ownership and responsibility for their actions or the failure of their own state governors.

When Fashola deported undesirables back to their states, the same hypocrites cried and yelled tribalism, war against the poor and so on.

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afroniger:


Yimu. If one didn't know better he could be forgiven for thinking the Rwanda you are trying to project is utopia. At least you are free to criticise Lagos government for its lapses without going missing, a privilege that ordinary Rwandans dare not exercise against their government. If Lagos was a country it would control its own resources, ports and have more at its disposal to better manage itself, without even resorting to a dictatorship system like your glorified utopia where dissenting voices are stifled by the state. No state in Nigeria enjoys 24-hr electricity so quit making it sound like epileptic electricity is a uniquely Lagos state problem. If Lagos was sovereign it would have solved its electricity problems long before now. It would also control its borders to mitigate the insane influx of economic migrants flooding it for survival and better manage its economy and affairs. A million Kagames cannot perform any miracle as Lagos administrator within the current Nigerian context so go and sit your butt someplace.

Ordinary road they never fix. Go sit down

donfineboi:


I really don't blame you for your inability to understand the depth and ramifications of Wealth and resources of any given society. Your lack of understanding is merely a reflection of your crass mundane disposition on socio-economic development.

It is just an evidence that your poor education has made you deluded from reality of common sense and knowledge from a global perspective.

But don't worry, I will educate you and perhaps provide some enlightenment to your jaded and primitive views on socio-economic development.

People of very low IQ don't understand that population (Human resources) is wealth.

Population is a major resources of any society and a major wealth indicator when managed properly. But people of very low intelligence and primitive thinking see it as a liability and not wealth.

With that type of primitive mindset, not able to manage the population advantage of any given society, there is no way the society will be able to maximize it's full potential.

One of the major setbacks many Africans have is our inability to think out of the box.

People who equate wealth to monetary resources are shallow and partially disoriented. Wealth of any society is determined by the availability of a very large market, thriving economic policies that maximises the potential of the average individual and advanced educational institutions for continuous improvement.

So yes Lagos has stupendous wealth. Only that most people are too idiotic to understand and utilise.

Societies with the largest population have learned to use that kind of Wealth to work for them. By providing policies and available resources for continuous growth and development.

That is why India with over 1.2 billion people has been replaced by Nigeria 190 million people as the world most populous impoverished nation on earth.

I hope now you have a proper insight on this discourse. If not, I will be happy to educate you further.

Again, ignorance shouldn't be the basis for your illogical and irrelevant comparisons, if you are going to compare, common dictate that you compare based on similar scenario from top to bottom.

Kigali is not accepting millions of people from failed states all over Nigeria including your own state like Lagos is doing by accepting the poor and the jobless to constitute nuisance and dirty the streets of Lagos.

Kigali is not saddled with 20 million people, they don't have hundreds of thousands of trailers or Dangote trucks battering and grounding their roads into pulp.

When Lagos asked for special status and funds to take care of the people from failed states trooping into Lagos everyday, your own useless leaders voted it down and anti Lagos people like you rejoiced and celebrated that brain dead decision.

Please state categorically that you want Lagos to do what they are doing in Kigali by rounding up and locking up street traders, hawkers and people with no business n the streets of Lagos state or even anywhere in Lagos.

IamAtikulate:

Ordinary road they never fix. Go sit down

Have they fixed all the horrible roads in your village or have they provided enough jobs and opportunity for the undesirables in your state to prevent them from trooping to Lagos to constitute nuisance, do street hawking, street trading and dirtying up Lagos?


Your name says a lot about you..

NGpatriot:



Your essay self defeated itself with your assertion that population is an asset and not liability, this is a layman's reasoning and simplistic viewpoint simply because they don't even acknowledge this fact in Rwanda with their draconian government policies that rounds up people from their streets and lock them up or deport them out of the cities so of what relevance is population in Rwanda when in fact they do away with them and spend their money on the little people in Kigali and a few places they clean up for western cameras?

Kigali is in fact a very poor city with poverty at it's very core and last time I checked, Lagos with all the issues, extra burden and pressure the failed states in Nigeria including yours put on Lagos state, it's still full of many beautiful places and better looking buildings than the ugly rubbish the OP posted.

Maybe to have enough resources to spend on a small segment on the population just like Kigali, Lagos should round up and lock up the millions of people trading, hawking,roaming around Lagos state and putting pressure on their resources.

I can see clearly that you are stubbornly ignorant. And I find it very funny that a rational being like yourself would claim Population as wealth is a layman's term. You are notoriously poorly educated LOL!! But I don't blame you, I blame the system that moulded you.

You fail to understand that population is a major resources and much more resourceful than the monetary resources you wrongly consider. In Japan the greatest resources are it's population. That is why even though they lack steel, Iron and other vital resources for industry, they are among the most industrialized countries on earth.

Advanced countries all over the world are looking for ways to attract more population because they understand the importance and value of the kind of Wealth derived from it. But it in this part of the world we are complaining that population is our problem.

Advanced societies are investing heavily on human development, understanding the importance and effectiveness. But in Nigeria we continue our Eba politics and maladministrtation.

We will continue to remain a potential giant unless and a very big pile of shit if we fail to take advantage of the numbers we have and utilise them.

Lagos having 20 million or over is no excuse. Govt should be able to use the advantage for growth and development.

Don't ever compare Nigeria to Rwanda ever again.


Nigeria should be compare to country like Congo,Mali , Niger republic

donfineboi:


I can see clearly that you are stubbornly ignorant. And I find it very funny that a rational being like yourself would claim Population as wealth is a layman's term. You are notoriously poorly educated LOL!! But I don't blame you, I blame the system that moulded you.

You fail to understand that population is a major resources and much more resourceful than the monetary resources you wrongly consider. In Japan the greatest resources are it's population. That is why even though they lack steel, Iron and other vital resources for industry, they are among the most industrialized countries on earth.

Advanced countries all over the world are looking for ways to attract more population because they understand the importance and value of the kind of Wealth derived from it. But it in this part of the world we are complaining that population is our problem.

Advanced societies are investing heavily on human development, understanding the importance and effectiveness. But in Nigeria we continue our Eba politics and maladministrtation.

We will continue to remain a potential giant unless and a very big pile of shit if we fail to take advantage of the numbers we have and utilise them.

Lagos having 20 million or over is no excuse. Govt should be able to use the advantage for growth and development.

Again, ignorance is the basis for your ignorant assertions and I'll highlight your ignorance one by one.

1. Lagos is a state in Nigeria, not a sovereign country in any advanced society. There's a difference between a state and a country and the resources available to an ordinary state and a sovereign country, so this is nothing but ignorance and another example of illogical comparison.

2. In advanced countries, their states are mostly successful states, they don't have 99% failed states sending their poor and unskilled population to burden and dry up resources in just one state or city. They don't even allow this in Kigali so this is nothing but ignorance and another example of illogical comparison.

3. If population is really an asset, why are they getting rid of their people or population in Kigali, why are they rounding them up and locking them up and even labeling them undesirables?

If according to you advanced countries are accepting and allowing people people to join their societies, why then are they doing the opposite in Kigali?

Why not just accept them as lawful members of the society and allow them to street trade and do street hawking? This is another example of illogical comparison.

NGpatriot:



Again, ignorance shouldn't be the basis for your illogical and irrelevant comparisons, if you are going to compare, common dictate that you compare based on similar scenario from top to bottom.

Kigali is not accepting millions of people from failed states all over Nigeria including your own state like Lagos is doing by accepting the poor and the jobless to constitute nuisance and dirty the streets of Lagos.

Kigali is not saddled with 20 million people, they don't have hundreds of thousands of trailers or Dangote trucks battering and grounding their roads into pulp.

When Lagos asked for special status and funds to take care of the people from failed states trooping into Lagos everyday, your own useless leaders voted it down and anti Lagos people like you rejoiced and celebrated that brain dead decision.

Please state categorically that you want Lagos to do what they are doing in Kigali by rounding up and locking up street traders, hawkers and people with no business n the streets of Lagos state or even anywhere in Lagos.

I understand your patriotism and it clearly blinds you from being rational. To advance well in debates you must be and I repeat must be less emotional and more logical.

I will further educate you so you can have a clear insight and not be lost in your web of nonsensical shenanigans.

1. Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa. Since the Govt boasts about this claim there should be no issue comparing Lagos to Rwanda.

2. Population is not a liability but an asset and wealth. The fact that Lagos state houses every Tom Dick and Adamu is to her advantage.

We in Nigeria have a very big problem managing both human and other resources.

Rwanda has been able to put in place a system that works and attracts tourism in a safe and easy to do business environment.

Whether a society has overpopulation or underpopulation doesn't really matter. It is the leadership and the vision of that society.

Lagos is just a pile of I chop you chop. The $1.5 billion obtained for the metro system is gone and nothing to show for it.
The Lagos badagry express way is still in the blueprint....

The BRT of yesterday is now Moluè of today. Only for Ambode to abandon it and reintroduced a new busing system.

Take a look at the road networks.....

I don't want to go into details....

But we surely lack the leadership and management capabilities to maximise our potentials.

donfineboi:


I understand your patriotism and it clearly blinds you from being rational. To advance well in debates you must be and I repeat must be less emotional and more logical.

Being patriotic or not is not the basis for intelligent reasoning and logical comparison.

Lagos state and Rwanda have nothing in common so there'snot reason for illogical and baseless comparison.

You can not educate me based on ignorant and unintelligent comparisons.

I will further educate you so you can have a clear insight and not be lost in your web of nonsensical shenanigans.

You can not educate me based on ignorant and unintelligent comparisons.

1. Lagos prides itself as the 6th largest economy in Africa. Since the Govt boasts about this claim there should be no issue comparing Lagos to Rwanda.

There's difference between GDP and state budget. They don't run governments with GDP,they do so with budgets.

America and countries with the largest GDPs in the world still borrow trillions to formulate their operating budgets.

Again, if you are going to compare, do so with logic and sane comparisons.

2. Population is not a liability but an asset and wealth. The fact that Lagos state houses every Tom Dick and Adamu is to her advantage.

We in Nigeria have a very big problem managing but human and other resources.

Rwanda has been able to put in place a system that works and attracts tourism in a safe and easy to do business environment.

Whether a society has overpopulation or underpopulation doesn't really matter. It is the leadership and the vision of that society.

Again, if population is really an asset, why are they getting rid of their population in Kigali? Why not just accept them to constitute nuisance, do street trading, hawk goods on the roads and bridges, dirty the environment like they do in Lagos?

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Answer this question if population is truly asset.

The BRT of yesterday is now Moluè of today. Only for Ambode to abandon it and reintroduced a new busing system.

Take a look at the road networks.....

I don't want to go into details....

But we surely lack the leadership and management capabilities to maximise our potentials.

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Thanks for not going into details because your needless essay is getting boring.

NGpatriot:



Have they fixed all the horrible roads in your village or have they provided enough jobs and opportunity for the undesirables in your state to prevent them from trooping to Lagos to constitute nuisance, do street hawking, street trading and dirtying up Lagos?


Your name says a lot about you..

The day una try any bullshitt in Lagos will be the day we will pursue you guys back to Osogbo.

Ndi ara

We left Ibadan for una, una no fit build on the legacy on the once pride of WA, na Lagos una wan run down now.

Lagos is a Awori land ruled by Bini and dominated by non-indigenes.

It is not a yoruba state.

Be guded!

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IamAtikulate:

The day una try any bullshitt in Lagos will be the day we will pursue you guys back to Osogbo.

Ndi ara

We left Ibadan for una, una no fit build on the legacy on the once pride of WA, na Lagos una wan run down now.

Lagos is a Awori land ruled by Bini and dominated by non-indigenes.

It is not a yoruba state.

Be guded!

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Miscreant Rubbish.

NGpatriot:


Being patriotic or not is not the basis for intelligent reasoning and logical comparison.

Lagos state and Rwanda have nothing in common so there'snot reason for illogical and baseless comparison.

You can not educate me based on ignorant and unintelligent comparisons.



You can not educate me based on ignorant and unintelligent comparisons.



There's difference between GDP and state budget. They don't run governments with GDP,they do so with budgets.

America and countries with the largest GDPs in the world still borrow trillions to formulate their operating budgets.

Again, if you are going to compare, do so with logic and sane comparisons.





Again, if population is really an asset, why are they getting rid of their population in Kigali? Why not just accept them to constitute nuisance, do street trading, hawk goods on the roads and bridges, dirty the environment like they do in Lagos?

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Thanks for not going into details because your needless essay is getting boring.

Very pathetic my fellow patriot. You seem not to grasp much or maybe your passionate drive to believe you can win on arguments based on typing nonsensical shenanigans outshines your drive for knowledge. LOL!!

Comparisons are necessary to understand and determine case studies and the underlining principles. But I guess you are rather too naive to know that.

California years back was the 4th largest economy some years back and was used as a case study in comparison with other Nations....

There is nothing at all wrong in making certain comparisons between societies, states or Nations. Many scholastic comparisons are made to determine findings, factors, data etc....

It is very lame and ignorant to claim there cannot be a basis for comparison between Lagos and Rwanda.

Now that we have made it very clear...

Rwanda's depopulation or rather genocide was an ethnic cleansing and not and economical policy. It is a shame you could bring this up thinking you are making a point.... Very unintelligent of you really.

Sometimes such comparisons are used as a means to identify and adopt governmental and economical best practises. An example is the Smart Dubai project... Of which many countries (Rwanda inclusive) and cities are adopting including Lagos which is struggling to adopt. But ignorance and poor exposure are blanketing you from understanding such indices.

So small pikin, There is need for comparisons.

NGpatriot:



You are wrong and off base on so many level.

1. Rwanda budget is actually $3.17 billion.

2. The population in Rwanda is 12 million against 20 million in Lagos, meaning we spend more on everything due to population alone and everything that comes with.

I don't know why you people love to make ignorant comparisons just to run down and badmouth your own country.

Lagos has received N5.6 thrillion since 1999 ($30 billion dollars) and still looks like a cesspool. And patriots questioning where all the money has gone are accused of badmouthing the country.
The only beneficiaries in Lagos are politicians and their cronies.
https://yourbudgit.com/data/lagos/

NGpatriot:



Your essay self defeated itself with your assertion that population is an asset and not liability, this is a layman's reasoning and simplistic viewpoint simply because they don't even acknowledge this fact in Rwanda with their draconian government policies that rounds up people from their streets and lock them up or deport them out of the cities so of what relevance is population in Rwanda when in fact they do away with them and spend their money on the little people in Kigali and a few places they clean up for western cameras?

Kigali is in fact a very poor city with poverty at it's very core and last time I checked, Lagos with all the issues, extra burden and pressure the failed states in Nigeria including yours put on Lagos state, it's still full of many beautiful places and better looking buildings than the ugly rubbish the OP posted.

Maybe to have enough resources to spend on a small segment on the population just like Kigali, Lagos should round up and lock up the millions of people trading, hawking,roaming around Lagos state and putting pressure on their resources.

Lagos does not provide the following so where did the $30 billion dollars it has received since 1999 go?
Electricity
Free healthcare
Social security
Portable water
Free education
World class road network

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donfineboi:



Very pathetic my fellow patriot. You seem not to grasp much or maybe your passionate drive to believe you can win on arguments based on typing nonsensical shenanigans outshines your drive for knowledge. LOL!!

Comparisons are necessary to understand and determine case studies and the underlining principles. But I guess you are rather too naive to know that.

California years back was the 4th largest economy some years back and was used as a case study in comparison with other Nations....

There is nothing at all wrong in making certain comparisons between societies, states or Nations. Many scholastic comparisons are made to determine findings, factors, data etc....

It is very lame and ignorant to claim there cannot be a basis for comparison between Lagos and Rwanda.

Now that we have made it very clear...

Rwanda's depopulation or rather genocide was an ethnic cleansing and not and economical policy. It is a shame you could bring this up thinking you are making a point.... Very unintelligent of you really.

Sometimes such comparisons are used as a means to identify and adopt governmental and economical best practises. An example is the Smart Dubai project... Of which many countries (Rwanda inclusive) and cities are adopting including Lagos which is struggling to adopt. But ignorance and poor exposure are blanketing you from undertanding such indices.

So small pikin, There is need for comparisons.

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Still struggling with baseless and ignorant comparisons.

1. California is a developed state in the US with a budget of $215 billion, Nigeria's budget is $33 billion

2. Los Angeles with 4 million people, budget is $36.1 billion, more than Nigeria's budget.

3.Lagos with 20 plus million people, the budget is $2 billion.

So,where is the sense and logic in your upside down comparison?

Yes, it is perfectly OK to compare and intelligent people compare everyday,but they do so with sane logic and comparable indices and analyses.

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djdutch:

Lagos does not provide the following so where did the $30 billion dollars it has received since 1999 go?
Electricity
Free healthcare
Social security
Portable water
Free education
World class road network

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I was actually expecting you to tell us that they've achieved all that in your state and even in the whole of Nigeria.

Please sit down somewhere if you have nothing better to say.

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djdutch:

Lagos has received N5.6 thrillion since 1999 ($30 billion dollars) and still looks like a cesspool. And patriots questioning where all the money has gone are accused of badmouthing the country.
The only beneficiaries in Lagos are politicians and their cronies.
https://yourbudgit.com/data/lagos/

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Your state collects taxes and allocations so show us all the beautiful things they did with it in your Dubai village..

NGpatriot:
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I was actually expecting you to tell us that they've achieved all that in your state and even in the whole of Nigeria.

Please sit down somewhere if you have nothing better to say.

I was born and raised in Warri, where we suffer from kleptomaniac leaders like all the 36 states of this fantastically corrupt country. The best Governor we had was Ibori who was a mega thief.

djdutch:

I was born and raised in Warri, where we suffer from kleptomaniac leaders like all the 36 states of this fantastically corrupt country. The best Governor we had was Ibori who was a mega thief.

lol.... You are from Delta state, a state with the second largest debt in Nigeria @ N300 billion and derivations, massive allocations and IGR and still look like stone age village, but he's here killing himself over Lagos?

Shouldn't you be somewhere crying, yelling and killing yourself over your backward state with horrible leaders...

The failure in your state is the reason why your people troop to Lagos to put pressure on our resources and and environment.

Osaze007:


Well Lagos as an extra 8-12m mouths to feed
And it doesn’t get the entire tax Rwanda gets as a nation
When companies start paying corporate profit taxes to states we can now compare

There is no social security payment in Lagos. It is every man for himself, Lagos does not feed anyone.

NGpatriot:



lol.... You are from Delta state, a state with the second largest debt in Nigeria @ N300 billion and derivations, massive allocations and IGR and still look like stone age village, but he's here killing himself over Lagos?

Shouldn't you be somewhere crying, yelling and killing yourself over your backward state with horrible leaders...

The failure in your state is the reason why your people troop to Lagos to put pressure on our resources and and environment.

I admit we have kleptomaniac leaders in Delta, just like in the other 35 states in the country. There is a reason why we are the corruption and poverty capital of the world.

You however choose to put your head in the sand and defend the ruling elite plunderers.