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@OneQuestion sorry mate but information on army medics is hard to get,my suggestions is that the Army medics of a country will be about as good as their logistics command,and for most African militaries, will be integrated into it. Military info is really hard to get in Africa.

@saengine. If the Navy are ordering the corvettes without torps,aam,and AShM and even radar,then its most likely that they intend to incorporate systems from other makers to the ship.Remember that the ship is nothing more than a battle platform esp since the design is modular.The important thing here is that the navy wants warship building capacity for corvet size ships.
http://www.shipsandports.com.ng/news.php?id=690 below is an extract....
“The idea is to convince the political masters to see the need for an offshore patrol vessel which the Navy has often reiterated at a lot of functions”.
He explained that while the first will be constructed in France, the others will be built in Nigeria by the naval dock yard thus making the country a hub for the construction of future OPV in the West Africa sub region...... And if other African countries within the sub region will need to purchase such an OPV class of ship then the construction will be done in our dockyard, which means the Nigerian naval dockyard will now be the hub for the construction of future Offshore Patrol Vessels of that class for navies in the West Africa sub region,”
and this http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24719&Itemid=106
Nigeria’s 2012 Defence Budget Proposal allocates N6.78 billion/US$42 million for the two offshore patrol vessels. The first will be built in China while about 50% of the second ship will be constructed in Nigeria in an effort to enhance local shipbuilding capability and provide technology transfer.

@saengine P18 is the Navy designation of Nigeria's type 056 opv/corvette/MR Frigate.Every Navy designate a ship a number for easy identification.

if you want the link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette look on the right under 'general characteristics' and
'Armament'.

@saengine. let me help you.
Type 056 Armament:
• 2× 2-cell YJ-83 (C-803) anti-ship missiles, amidships. i.e 4.sea-skimming anti-ship cruise missiles,max speed(mach2)
• 1× HQ-10 8-round SAM launcher, aft i.e 8 short range
• 1× H/PJ-26 76 mm main gun, forward
• 2× H/PJ-15 30mm RWSs, amidships
• 2× triple torpedo tubes i.e 6 torpedoes
all this for standard 1,300 tonnes
Nigeria went for full load 1,440 tons.

@zetdee There is no where in the officials quote that he said security is the problem.You have been misled by the journalists article.
If you read from the quotes you will see that the official acknowledged the role of Nigeria in the sub-region but said that the itinerary simply did not include Nigeria. Their aim was to cover west,east and south Africa carrying specific messages in the time they had.

speaking about opvs',i just checked the military budget(official).It has 2 opv's paid for 2013. check here: http://www.budgetoffice.gov.ng/2013%20appropriation/11.%20Summary_Defence.pdf code no :23010110 its pdf format.

@souldust The Nile is Egypt's life blood,it brings mineral rich soil from the mountains of East Africa and dump it on the Nile Delta,This soil is essential for Agriculture in Egypt,if it stops coming Egypt cant maintain its Large population food and water wise.Simply put there will be hunger,riots and internal disorder.

and if andrewza cant bother reading,here is a post at that tread:

Re: Troops In Mali Haven't Been Paid For 3 Months - Premium Times by Kevsman: 2:14pm On Jun 19
this is a big lie, so nairaland sef day spread fals news? My brother is among the soldiers in mali, we speak to each other almost every day and he keeps telling me that every things is fine,and the dere morals is always high, the rebels trembles when ever thay hear the name NIGARIA (pple go just day spread nonsence)

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@patriot4 mm don't look like hungry Nigerian soldiers to me. @andrewza this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1329434/troops-mali-havent-been-paid will answer your curiosity on the issue.

@agaugust lol,i'm going back to military discussions.white man tell me say i no dey chop pass #160/day , meanwhile that money no fit buy you shine shine bobo.ordinary lacasera nah #100 and you never start.

@craigB
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/poverty-threshold-in-nigeria-myth-or-reality-/147595/ pls read it completely and slowly absorbing everything, if you spout rubbish i will not reply.

@craigB that post does not make sense read my post again.i said i quote our people,your quote comes from the world bank,which was requoted by a journalist.

@craigB the deference between my post and yours is that one quotes international agencies (your post)while the other quotes the man on the ground (my post)who is being assessed.Who is bound to know if Nigerians live on a dollar a day?The arm chair economist in a far away nation or the man that spends $5-$10 on food a day.

Understand this,The so called spy drones are not spy drones cause they can not operate in a hostile environment.Can the global hawk operate in Russia? Even the global hawk will be shot down by a scrambled jet in any decent country once it is detected by radar no SAMs needed."THE ONLY TRUE SURVEILLANCE DRONE IS A STEALTH SURVEILLANCE DRONE". Have you heard of geostationary orbit? NIGCOMSAT1R, is in geostationary orbit over the coast of Somalia at the moment. http://www.satflare.com/track.asp?q=38014#TOP

@andrewza The predator drone is the primary Armed drone of the U.S. and the one being deployed in targeted killing of taliban,al-qaeda and their associates.But to make it easier for you.The only "TRUE" battlefied reconnisance drone is the RQ-170 Sentinel if i am right.This is because its a stealth drone.The RCS of most so called spy drones make it impossible for stealth work in enemy airspace where you don't have air superiority,even their speed means they can be shot down by simple shoulder mounted SAMs.Iran even claimed to shoot down a sentinel. If you do have air superiority then drones are an option.However satellites give you unhindered access to enemy positions even if you dont have air superiority.In short most "reconnaissance drones being sold are for defence,border patrol etc.

@ andrewza i didn't say most drones are armed. i said that the drones in most use by the U.S.(powers that be) are Armed Drones.The Armed drones come with target acquisition.

Spy drones are the poor man's satellite,Neither the U.S nor Russia use drones for spying in truth.The drones used by the U.S. in large numbers are Armed drones.That is a different kit altogether.You cant use spy drones in a hostile territory without air superiority cause they are not designed to outmaneuver SAMs.Only china and the U.S. at the moment are known to have recently acquired the capability of shooting down satellites from space.Jamming or hijacking is still the preferred method.

@ kwame nkria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Africa
Analyse the data ,look out especially for 'rate of infection'

concerning the poverty in Nigeria Myth here is a piece which most Nigerians will agree with. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/poverty-threshold-in-nigeria-myth-or-reality-/147595/

@agaugust
Simply military tactics will be to attack logistic support for the troops.cut out their anti-retro viral(HIV) supply,and they will become too weak to fight.

http://www.n2yo.com/?s=37790 correct link without the "needs" part

Nigeria sat-x is currently over SA http://www.n2yo.com/?s=37790...needs java

The thread is about The African Armed forces,but South Africans logged and sat on the thread snuffing out its African focus

Wow,South Africans think we are obsessed about South Africa because we talk to South Africans about their country,but, they can't see they are obsessed with Nigeria by logging everyday to a Nigerian forum to talk about Nigeria.A case of self delusion.

Zooming in on Africa we have an even more graphic picture....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Africa

For those who talk about HIV prevalence the link is here....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

Did you read the entire tread or did you start in the middle?. The tread starts with frosbels assumption that Egypt was the strongest but many inputs from others suggested other nations including SA.The entry of South Africans into the tread suggesting they are the best lead to scrutiny of the SANDF.Nobody was particularly interested in SA before that.My links suggest that the SANDF as a "FORCE" is no-where near the top in Africa, and i am requesting answers from those who dispute this.Do you understand?
You seems as interested in Nigeria as you claim Nigerians are in SA,if not you would have left a "Nigerian Forum" by now.

http://www.consultancyafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=614:south-africas-military-a-case-of-biting-off-more-than-it-can-chew&catid=57:africa-watch-discussion-papers&Itemid=263
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2129563.stm
http://www.refworld.org/docid/5126111c2.html
http://www.stratfor.com/other-voices/threat-hivaids-south-african-armed-forces
http://www.irinnews.org/report/94597/analysis-south-africa-paper-tiger-of-african-peacekeeping-operations
http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/nearly-half-of-sa-army-not-fit-for-combat-1.89664#.Ub72xqzjWko
http://www.bancabc.co.zw/news/air-force-pilot-who-%27borrowed%27-aircraft-is-charged.aspx

any answers?