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zetdee: Where does your 3% figure come from? Whats percentage of Nigerians qualify to bridge?

do the maths(simple probability).the % of students that score an A in a single subject and then a B.then the probability of scoring AAAAB-BBBBB that is an average of 70-75 passing grade.Then check you National passing grades.

BCraig: Wake up, Sir. It says clearly, you need one sitting! If a South African goes to the university and has the scores, the South African is in. And that;s only for specific subjects anyway.

If a Naai-gerian A student goes to the University, the Naai-gerian students will need to go through a foundation year. That';s acriss the board.

Nowhere does it say South Africans have to bridge. Our system is trusted enough for that requirement to fall away. We don't gift people As in South Africa. That's why our A students are respected. Yours are NOT.

I think you're trying to punish me for your own confusion.

Good grief, is deductive reasoning that hard?what i am saying is this;for most South Africans that direct entry is an illusion.Do you understand?Can you interpret this?
http://allafrica.com/stories/201301040398.html

extract:A 20 to 39 percent pass rate was obtained at 485 schools, while 1224 schools had a pass rate of between 40 to 59 percent. If you can't i give up.ill stop derailing the thread here.
If you cant too bad.

BCraig: You're arguing against yourself. The scores required are from our OWN South African system. Therefore, your argument is mute.

The point is our education system is trusted to assess itself. The Naai-gerian system is NOT. It requires a whole year's further assessment.

You tied yourself up in knots and your point is irrelevant.

let me help you,3% of south frican students can score aaaab-bbbbb so the rest will keep trying year after year to enter and fail,while Nigerians only need 1 foundation year.Have you finally deduced what i have been implying?

BCraig: So, what's so untrue about my statement? I said South Africans don't have to bridge. What's untrue about that?

i guess induced reasoning is a bit hard over there.My post suggest that what you posted is not entirely true because you did not add specific parts that suggest it is next to impossible for your country to get those scores.
since you want me to help think for you rather than reason it out, i am saying that only 3% at most of your country men can qualify to enter a U.K University.It is that percentage that can get those scores

@bcraig
extract:Only a small proportion of candidates score an 'A' in any subject (from as little as 2% to a maximum of about 10% in subjects taken by highly select groups.) A further 8 – 15% are likely to gain a 'B' and about 20 – 25% achieve a 'C' grade. The Senior Certificate is a group certificate and records an aggregate mark.

BCraig: Yes, AAAAB–BBBBB of our own South African system. Not so?

You get that, then you have direct entry for those specific subjects that require that.

Where do South Africa have to bridge? May I have an answer please.

And where does a Naai-gerian of AAAAB–BBBBB. gain direct entry? May I have an answer please.

Just show me where it says South Africans have to bridge. You said I'm not telling the truth, didn't you?

first of all i never said you need an extra year,You need (typicaly) 4'a's and 1'B' to 5'Bs' for entry.now compare that with your average 30 for pass,or just check the wiki link.

BCraig: Where does it say South Africans are required to bridge?

this is a copy/paste from the website:

General requirements for undergraduate courses
Five passes at one sitting in the National Senior Certificate are considered to be suitable for direct entry to undergraduate study.

Entry requirements vary according to subject, but are typically in the region of AAAAB–BBBBB.

For entry onto certain subjects, particularly Science or Engineering degree courses, academic Schools may ask certain for subjects (usually Mathematics and Physics).

lol you still need an AAAAB-BBBBB grade as an entry requirement.can't you read.

i modified the post to show that your statement about south africa is not [b]entirely[/b]true.check the link
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/international/country/africa/south-africa.htm and compare with the wiki link.
again read from the university link :Entry requirements vary according to subject, but are typically in the region of AAAAB–BBBBB.

CraigB: Bwahahahaha indeed.

Look at this:












No further words necessary.

actually a few words are still necessary:
Five passes at one sitting in the National Senior Certificate are considered to be suitable for direct entry to undergraduate study.

Entry requirements vary according to subject, but are typically in the region of AAAAB–BBBBB. [color=#990000][/color]
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/international/country/africa/south-africa.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Senior_Certificate
extract:Only a small proportion of candidates score an 'A' in any subject (from as little as 2% to a maximum of about 10% in subjects taken by highly select groups.) A further 8 – 15% are likely to gain a 'B' and about 20 – 25% achieve a 'C' grade. The Senior Certificate is a group certificate and records an aggregate mark.

Nigeria will most definitely be firing liquid fueled rockets(probably cryogenic)not all these solid crap.There is a vast technical difference between solid and liquid fueled rockets,anybody can build solid fueled rockets..
heck here is a post www..com/talk/topic,61033.0.html
If you want to launch rockets into space and not face sanctions,it is specific liquid fuel tech you will be using so it can't be easily weaponised. Nigeria has declared it is for space transport.(although if you have the required guidance to get a rocket into space,it does not take much to make a SLBM.)
pls. copy the whole link and paste in your browser.

it seems as if the navy brass have approved the design of the sister ship to andoni,it will be 7meters longer.
http://www.nigerianpilot.com/nigerian-navy-to-build-another-warship/

Msauza: Yet , you seem to forget that Nigeria on its own struggles to maintain stable democracy. No wonder their intervention in Africa is this minimal because they are afraid of being asked if their house is in order. SA remains the only true democracy in Africa.

wow ,you sure do know how to dodge a question,are you a politician?

Henry120: That's @andrew and @agaugust. We've seen a similar thread before. I believe last year.

probably this forum; http://www.topix.net/forum/world/ethiopia/TULKPD32V7L6CKLA4/p26

andrewza: And nigeria have driven in to small ambushes and suferd heavier losses. How about india and pakstan who made back door deals with rebels.

SA hit one ambush and suferd a singal casultie. And now some fool who is most likely a white forme solder who's hates the sandf.

i gave you two links not one,so don't blame it on one author.The United Nations was talking about poor training not the ambush.
http://paulsmusing2./2013/03/11/south-africa-versus-the-united-nations/
http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Exam-cheat-is-training-army-20130407

andrewza: It not about arrogancy. My qustion still stands. Who will train us and what do they bring to the tabel so speciol. Only SA has said they know of no letter or complant. They caim out and straight out said there was no such thing. And the UN has said what about it.

What did you expect?It is pretty embarrassing to your country and military so it was a confidential memo.Do you think the U.N will talk about a confidential memo?They offered to train your troops or to hand them over to the A.U.(probably Nigeria ) but your commander arrogantly refused.

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]Best In Africa.....Nigerian naval Dockyard In Lagos[/size]


The Nigerian Naval Dockyard remains the only all-integrated dockyard in Africa where all these facilities are put together under one umbrella.

SUMMARY OF CAPABILITIES

With these facilities, the yard is capable of the following:

- Dry-docking of a maximum of 10 ships at a time (including the slipway facility)
- Repair of diesel engines and associated parts like governors, injectors, crank shafts cylinders,turbochargers
- Repair of propeller shafts and propellers
- Repair of refrigeration ad air-conditioning systems
- Repair of auxiliary machinery-pumps, valves, anchors, cables, winches, capstan, etc
- Machining operation and fabrication of simple and complex parts
- Heat treatment of metals
- Castings
- Repair/rewinding of electric motors, alternators and transformers
- Repair of electronic system, communication and navigation equipment
- Preservation and cosmetic dressing of metals
- Vehicle repairs including heavy duty vehicles
- Mine looping
- GRP repairs
- Repair of guns or heavy artillery
- Shipbuilding

INFO COURTESY : Nigerian Naval Dockyard

weblink source : https://beegeagle./2011/10/13/spotlight-on-the-nigerian-naval-dockyard-lagos/

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2011/10/nns-aradu-at-the-nigerian-naval-dockyard.jpg[/img]

The dock takes 10,000TONS nice

@ andrewza it was a confidential memo,so it will be hard to find.The U.N. said your troops have poor training and offered to have them trained by U.N. or A.U. forces and your commander arrogantly refused.
http://paulsmusing2./2013/03/11/south-africa-versus-the-united-nations/

agaugust:
south africa has no operational cruise missile or long range stand-off missile. i dont want to insult you today, i would have called you a F00L, but no, i wont insult you today, i am in a good mood. all the cruise missiles you posted in that photo album do not exist in south african military service.

where were you when @ndrewza/@figher pilot your two south african soldiers who were disgaced by a nigerian civilian boy named Augustine ? when they confirmed that the only stand off weapons in service with south africa are paveway and umbani guided bombs, the s.tupid slow 35km bombs that i shot down here with nigeria's new/modern Type 90 high velocity air defence computerized guns that also shoots down cruise missiles.


the best naval dockyard in africa is in lagos nigeria, our navy repairs any size of ship, and we are building 70% of the first guided missile stealth warship in the whole of africa with full technology transfer to nigeria for ever, south africa has not achieved that. go sit down. every country has its own area of strength and focus/specialization according to urgent needs

go dream on your bed, this is nairaland, not dreamland. greet your junior sister for me o!

@agaugust I am guessing that the modular hull (weapon platform)is what we are building,we get to decide the weapons and systems onboard,so we can adapt as we see fit.

lol,millitary academy?south africa? the same country that can't train its troops?
http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2012/09/25/sandf-in-big-trouble
http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Exam-cheat-is-training-army-20130407

@andrewza that report is 3mnths old.

denel is partly owned by sa government.the fact that they make arms does not mean the sandf have them in their inventory in large enough quantities or the trained personnel to man them to make them an effective fighting force in africa to warrant the ranking they believe they should have. They have poorly trained pilots and submariners their fighter planes hardly fly and any good seaman they have is quickly poached(talk abt loyalty)by other countries,and their army is ........

@mike_za you do know its a parade? that's what parades are all about.looking lean and mean.it's for show.

@saengine Not likely.your submariners are being frequently poached by other countries.But still facts are they dived a sub to the sea-bed and cant properly connect a subs batteries.

@saengine thats a different accident by your incompetent submariners,read the link i gave you

SANDF clipped wings: http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2013/05/10/air-force-wings-clipped
extract: "The bottom line is that, with severely limited funding, none of the pilots can fly the hours they need to if they hope to be proficient. "The Gripen fighter squadron has been allocated a total of 150 flying hours for the entire squadron. But 150 hours is what each pilot should be flying.

"It is so bad that, last year, plans were [considered for] removing from service the Gripens, the Hawk fighter-trainer jets, the Rooivalk attack helicopters and the A109 light utility helicopters."

last time i heard about your subs they were in dry dock,esp after the accident of your last sub by incompetent sailors
one went down cause the sailors wrongly connected the batteries,the other was driven into the sea-bed.By the way you have not paid for them. http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

zaandrew: There is nothing there that I have not menstioned.

[b]The sandf is short about 10 to 15 thousand. This can be corrected in 2 years once the order is given. And the nigerian army is at most doubl the SA army. [/b]Even though your populastion is 3 times biger than ours.

We under funded 2billion USD. I have menstioned this before. It still about 2 billion bigger than nigeria.

60% of the SANDF budget is spent on defense. It 80% in nigeria(will find the aurhor of the report if you want it)

You posted a wright up from wikpeada including the quear of it truth. There is no source to back up that non infantry units did any such thing.

Wikpeada is not a source.


Denel is the states arems company.

As you can see it is you that said that you country can increase your army,and i said if you cant train a small army now what makes you think you can train and equip a larger army?

@zaandrew yes wiki is not a source that is why i gave a collaborating source that shows sandf is short on training and manpower to require redeployment from artillery to infantry. your army is ill,short on numbers,poorly equiped cannot maintain its equipment (e.g. griffens) or train its personnel,again your fighter pilots dont have enough flight time to be air-worthy.The navy can barely go to sea and you have too high generals to soldier ratio.
THE SANDF is a midget compared to SADF and is below NA.It is easy to increase numbers but if you cant train and equip a few how can you when they are more?

here we go again, SANDF is not denel dynamics,denel dynamics produces weapons for the local industry in SA and for export,SANDF does not have Equipment,manpower and training.Stop comparing denel weapons with NAF. compare SANDF with NAF. For example concerning artilery read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Army_Artillery_Formation

extract:Due to a shortage of regular infantry, both 4 Artillery Regiment and 10 Air Defence Regiment have recently[when?] provided gunners deployed in their secondary role as line infantry in the central African region on peacekeeping duties.
also read
http://mg.co.za/article/2012-05-04-lack-of-funds-leaves-sa-vulnerable

talk about being overstrectched: http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/387/80709.html
extract: South Africa has an estimated 1600 troops in the Sudan and Democratic Republic of Congo on UN peacekeeping missions.It has 1600 troops deployed along the borders."We are seriously overstretched," Masondo said.

and i have posted previous info about SANDF.
Again SANDF is not Denel dynamics,just cause the company produces weapons does not mean SANDF have them.If a war breaks out Denel will need time to produce weapons(if their factories aint bombed).

sahara reporters preminum times,dailytrust why is it that almost all negative news south africans link come from these sources and south africans cant notice it? Even i dont quote democratic alliance (s.a. government opposition)? based link because i understand it can be biased an untrue due to the political taint.If you quote them then make sure you quote other independent sources.

here is what you need to be a major deterrent to other ICBM nations
Ohio class
Armament:24 × Trident I C4 SLBM with up to 8 MIRVed 100 ktTNT W76 nuclear warheads each, range 4,000 nmi (7,400 km; 4,600 mi)
explanation:Each missile has 8Nukes re-entering into a country from space,each nuke independently targeting.Each sub has 24 missles,thats 24x8 warheads per sub or simply 192nukes/sub.