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Lukuluku69:
So, Abraham is an Adulterer?

He would have been guilty of adultery if not that it was clearly not his will and sin but that of his sin full wife..

And this clear act of her shows why she was barren even before God came to Abraham.

Which is why this question in this thread is very very important because it is truly interesting what did God see in Abraham that He revealed Himself to Him? Or better still what did Abraham do, that separated himself from others?

Lukuluku69:
What God did Ishmael worshipped? Are you saying he did not follow his father to worship and know his father God?

Remember he was circumcised when he was 16 by order of his father God. Are you saying Abraham did not mention his God to his First son hearings? What kinda of father was he then?

A child does not choose religion, it is adults who do hence his circumcision does not count as it was forced on him. No one asked him if he will agree to be circumcised and he will follow God.

Secondly as you can see paternity fraud shows, a child born out adultery and unlawfulness is not an acceptable child and he shall be rejected, so Ishmael is not the first born.

And lawful children are never sent away from their parents house but children born of adultery and prostitution, like Ishmael.

So, you see, Ishmael is a strange child and seeing how strange and evil you Ishmaelites are it is clear that you children and your father Ishmael are Satan's seeds and children.

And Exactly what Satan did to Eve in getting her defiled to give birth to unholy children of prostitutes and murderers like Cain, so did he in using 2 women to defile yet again God's chosen family that would have raised up "holy" children.

Lukuluku69:
God does what He Wills. He chooses whom He will. He Alone Elevates whom He Wills.

People of Faith don't ask the question you are asking because we don't question God's Decisions or choices. Our motto is " We hear and we Obey".

His choice of Abraham we don't question.

Rubbish. The Bible shows in line with His Word, He only chose righteous and potentially righteous people and not murderers and paedophiles and adulterers and fornicators

Buhari4dullard:
Abraham faith led to Judaism & Christianity

That's why both Jews & Christians recognise God as the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob.

Exo 3:6 KJV Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

No where in the Koran is the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob mentioned, showing that Allah is not God

Abraham's belief in God instead of idols led to Christianity.

Judaism is Judah-ism which is the same paganism and idol worship God was trying to separate Isreal from.
https://www.nairaland.com/7790701/judaism-not-what-moses-gave#124873648

ThatWriterBoy:
In other words, God already knew what Abraham would do and then picked him right? His foreknowledge and all? I think I get it..

Do you not already know that anyone you employ may obey/disobey and disappoint you? Yet, from the interview you choose one whom your assessment shows potential.

So, it is here.

Wipe out that rubbish predestination thinking. God respects and honours the freewill and rights He gave us, so forget that shit.

So as I said, when God Speaks to people do they obey? No

So, the question is why did God Speak to him and he obeyed? And of course you know that there are some people who God will never speak to.

ThatWriterBoy:
I take it back. I think I might not be correct. I just did some googling and it seems it's possible that Job was younger than Abraham but older than Moses. Or they could have been contemporaries. 😅

Nothing has led me to even ponder this nor have I heard any of this before

Truvelisback:
lol, You have forgotten that God used women in the Bible. There are so many places in the God used women. Time would fail me to begin to quote Scriptures. Back to Genesis. Adam also received punishment, not only Eve. If God loved men and hated women as you claimed, He wouldn't have cursed Adam.

That is why we all said "rarely and seldom".

And even those used, not one got to serve Him in and from His Office, like the men. They all operated outside. And their work was not much when compared to the work of the males.

And back to Genesis, I told you before, Adam and serpent were completely punished but look at Eve's own judgement, IT IS NOT COMPLETE!

In law, it means that The Court has not concluded her matter, therefore it means her case and Trial has been adjourned sine die.

Therefore, when her Court reconvenes, it can continue pronouncing more punishments. Therefore, the one she got are just merely interim judgements,

Therefore, that Genesis Court on her case is still in running and not functus officio.

Same thing happened to Cain over his case of murdering Abel.

And this is the beginning of where you can see God's distance from women started.

Clear proof that Catholics are Pagans!

otipoju:
Job does not predate Abraham. Job was a grandson to Esau and was an Edomite.

The full name is Jobab

Esau is Abraham's grandson like Isreal, abi na. Your link did not open

ThatWriterBoy:
Hello everyone! Happy New Year!

One of my goals for 2025 is to read through the Bible. Right now, I'm in Genesis 16 and I'm wondering why God picked Abraham to become the most important father in the world (seeing that he became the father of both Christians, Jews and Muslims).

Is it that there was something inherently different about him like Noah who was the ONLY blameless man in the whole world before the flood?

Because Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldeans. And I don't think they were worshipping Yahweh over there. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as if God just picked a random sinner man and made him all those promises and then he became father of the monotheistic religions.

Weren't there other people God could have picked?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Job predates Abraham right? Why didn't God pick Job then? He was a righteous man that He (God) even bragged to Satan about his righteousness.

What do you think?

Beautiful!

His acts thereafter have shown you!

Who has not heard from God? Everyone.

How many follow and obey Him? Nearly no one.

And do you not see that Job is many many centuries away from Isreal aka Jacob?

Michael547:
So if you as a Christian Nigerian soldier meet a Ghanaian Christian soldier on the opposite side in war, then both of you are no longer Christians according to the song? If no, please explain better.

Then you still don't understand the song and what soldier means.

So, in the line of your question, go read up what or is it who a soldier is. I am sure you will still come up wrong, so let me help you, can a soldier be a soldier of 2 Masters and Kings? Jesus even answered this.

dollypi:
What are you saying?

It's in English na. Ok read slowly and if you do not understand ask a clear question.

LordReed:
LoLz. I don't need to since you clearly reveal your hypocrisy. I just wanted to know how far your hypocrisy extended, whether it stopped at your wife or your mother and sisters were included.

Your meaning of hypocrisy is twisted for clearly my words and intention show that every woman who is like the woman God hates, whether my mother or sister or wife or daughter or yours is included in here.

So go and find my mother and sisters and tell them that this is what I said.

kingxsamz:
What about your mother and your wife's mother?

Now you know who this is about and why I raise threads like these

https://www.nairaland.com/8017154/seen-evil-family-father-mother#128721751

https://www.nairaland.com/7998307/women-always-kill-potential-children

https://www.nairaland.com/8252890/fathers-stop-forcing-daughters-sex

kingxsamz:
So this mad man has a wife?
Does your wife know that you think she and her mother belongs to Satan?

Madsamz has forgotten because you are so evil and cursed because the world is just like you, in your Madness and Curse you can not imagine that anyone got the woman in Proverbs 31.

Of course. We found these together

And a Proverbs 31 woman is never like your mother, sister, wife and all the women you and I and everybody know.

If she was like them, I would not be married and of course I may not say the many things I say but like today's men, I definitely support that any man who has sense should not marry nor even have baby mama They should just concentrate on making their lives good and sweet.

Truvelisback:
Wrong, God doesn't hate females.

You are just making me repeat my answers especially as you know and have seen that many people have noticed this

https://www.nairaland.com/4853044/bible-doesnt-like-women-see#73088297

https://www.nairaland.com/1999370/why-does-bible-seem-against#28056165

https://www.nairaland.com/5724633/why-god-seldom-use-women#87259477.

Clearly, He does!

jaephoenix:
Was Hitler male or female?

Women have killed more than Hitler. It was a whole world that Eve killed and destroyed and is still silently killing and destroying even today.

https://www.nairaland.com/8306557/man-lost-life-gym-instructor#133540205

No human being is near that record even if Kim Jong and Putin blow up the world with their world blower bombs.

jaephoenix:
I'm not omniscient. Yhwh is.
Again look at my question and answer them

These are examples of things where your omniscient power is exercised, yet, you to took the risk and plunge as people have said "no risk, no glowry".

dollypi:
Thank you!

I guess “God” loved all the people He ordered the Israelites to kill too.

And he also loved the Israelites so much that He killed thousands of them for worshiping the golden calf.

Interesting to see how Jesus’ behavior was opposite to this.

It’s each person’s responsibility to upgrade their concept of “God” away from what they’ve been told. We have a brain for a reason.

It is now you see another reason why people do not wish to accept Jesus is God, for it is still He Who punished and destroyed the Canaanites and Sin full Isreal, Whom you say is "opposite of this"

Meanwhile if you had paid attention, you would heard Jesus Say that He did not come to Judge, "at this time". Meaning, He has judged before and He will judge again.

So, God is God and He has laid open Himself for us to see and understand. But people are busy trying to fit God to suit themselves and their world.

jaephoenix:
So since he hates them, why did he create them in the first instance?
Same for Satan. Why did your god create him, knowing fully well he's gonna be his adversary, deceiving his own people?

Is it not after they completely destroyed His First Plans and they continue destroying It that He hated them?

Do you not already know that your kid may become a prostitute or drug addict or may even murder you when you grow up but has that stopped you from having babies? No

Or do you not already know that you can have an accident with your car but has that stopped you and anyone from creating it? No

hilaryCU:
Learn and move on. Stop bringing irrelevant discussion on this simple explanation.

Learning goes both ways and it is relevant to understand why people do not care about the distinctions between the 2 and that they are indeed right not to care

Kingsempires:
don't worry you will keep on explaining. Mic question no dey finish ooo that is why I'm no more talking on this thread

As you can see, he is hung! Since he wants to be pretending he does not know, then lets give him home assignment let him go and read and learn and submit his answers tomorrow.

That is how people who do not know eg children are treated

Lukuluku69:
Jehovah in His Law says anyone who call you to the worship of other gods should be stoned to Death.

Did you miss that part while reading your Bible?

After first being Judged fairly before man and before Him!

And it is not even the worship that is the problem it is the fact that they go ahead and do that which is evil eg witchcraft, adultery, fornicating, all manners of unrighteousness. That is what is clearly spelt out in the Bible.

Which you people do not do, so you have your judgement

NNTR:
Women are God's pièce de résistance. They are one of God's most noteworthy and prized creatures. God strategically held onto this powerful and advantageous creature until the final moments. He deliberately kept this most desirable creature until the end. Dropped His best card at the end of the creation sequence of events.

God is not misogynist. So God loves women. God talks with women compassionately, directly, and even often challengingly (e.g. Eve, Miriam, Samaritan woman at the Well, the Marys, woman with the issue of blood, woman caught in adultery et cetera)

This is a man's world, yes, this is a man's world, but it wouldn't be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl
Yeah, it is a man's world, but it wouldn't be nothing, nothing, not one little thing.
Without a woman or a girl, man's lost in the wilderness, lost in bitterness, he's lost, lost.

Without woman, there'll be no mankind. [/b]Without woman, there'll be no promised child, even no children of promise. Without woman there'll be no door, there'll be no gate to earth. Without woman there be no God Incarnate.

_{[b]Personal text}: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

You know your counter is stupid right?

You are right educationally however socially, they are right to use them interchangeably.

Why?

Because, socially from the difference between the 2, bride price is the most important and relevant thing in discuss as bride price is an essential ingredient of all marriages in Nigeria, while dowry is a "before nko"and dem no dey talk dat one situation, which is at the discretion and option of the bride's family.

And normally a "about to be married" woman is already taking and getting things (dowry) from her family and has taken them to the house she and her husband are going to be living in. So dowry, is not important but bride price will always be talked about as this is a very important ingredient in grounding the validity of a marriage.

So people are just focusing on the important and relevant one and not concerned with the accuracy of the words used

See how another woman is turning 5yr old to olosho.

https://www.nairaland.com/8306530/mothers-fathers-uncles-aunt-need#133539597

All these is because you men are not respectable at all and you have definitely forgotten the first class of respect is that respect is earned.

But you people came up with the policy of shine the Congo and move on, who respect epp?

So enjoy your Congo and leave respect out of your relationship

Michael547:
Please explain what Christian soldier is?

That song explains it

muykem:
Asked 100 Muslims in Nigeria if they want visa to go and live in Afghanistan, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Syria etc where they practice sharia law, 99.9 of them will say No. Then asked the same 100 people if they want visa to live in Canada, America, Australia, Uk, France etc, 99.9 of them will say YES 🙌🏿. And when they get to those liberal countries they’ll be asking for sharia law

Why?

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

LordReed:
LoLz. Ahh, right, your wife is not twice as dirty but other women are. Tell me is your mother and sisters twice as dirty as you or they too are the purest human goodest virgin?

I can as well tell you my ATM passwords. Clearly, you do not have any reasonable thing to say.

Thank you for not turning my statement evil.

Michael547:
My argument is not on what Christian means or what Christian soldier means.
My argument is if a Nigerian Christian soldier meet a Ghanaian Christian soldier in the war front, should they defend their respective countries by killing each other?

If you understood what Christian soldier means then you would see why your question is vain

Lukuluku69:
It is true that if you leave Christianity today nothing will happen to you. Very true..

Which is still ten thousand times better than when any of your members choose to leave your evil pagan cult, where you Muslims will go Mad and murder fully berserk as you murder the person for it, even if such person is a child or family member

https://www.nairaland.com/7065345/muslim-man-brutally-murdered-wife#111702484

https://www.nairaland.com/8124423/boy-poisoned-christian-mother-death#130465075

https://www.nairaland.com/7636854/relatives-kill-pastor-leaving-islam#122221256