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Jumbojax:
The only person who has never and will never break any law is Jesus Christ. On judgement day, He is Judge, Jury and executioner. You don't believe me but you will see

Wrong!

Jesus wasn't the only one!
Enoch, Noah, Daniel, Job, Zachariah and his wife Elizabeth, the Disciples, Cornelius, Paul, the thief on the cross are all examples of humans who made it. So, If anyone is serious, they would make it.

So, there is no excuse.

Solofresh2:
You're not Truth. You're just a man with a bruised ego.Keep writing. I'll keep reading. But don't confuse replies with surrender

No where did I say I am the Truth and the thread shows that you are crushed and trying to salvage yourself by thinking that as long as you talking then you have not surrendered. What a joker, Iran has not surrendered but everyone knows that they are crushed and defeated just like you. So no one needs you to say "I surrender".

Solofresh2:
You're not asking for proof,you're asking for ammunition to mock.I'm not here to convince you. I'm here to state what I know. Take it or leave it

The thread shows i demanded for proof/evidence and of course your proof/,evidence must be valid.

But because you already know that you have none hence you are dodging and running away

adeoyekay:
Thank you sir, I have stopped responding to him. If you believe in God it is a belief, if you don't believe in God it is also a belief
So I don't understand the point his proving

Don't mind atheists, very unintelligent folks

Burgcudi:
How much was the charge; if i may ask., cos a good paint job should guarantee you 3-5years (roof, bonnet and car-boot-top/trunk-top)

My own is every 3yrs. OK time to construct car cover

Jumbojax:
All those verses of the law are good and the law is good but none of them can be connected to the topic of going to heaven, and this is a thread about going to heaven, isn't it?

Keeping Judgement Day in view, If a person does not break any Law, is he liable to be arrested, and taken to court for trial and conviction and punishment?

Solofresh2:
You're not Plato. You're just another person who can't handle being challenged.

Keep quoting philosophers while I keep winning arguments

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The thread shows i have already finished crushing your challenge even without a struggle and that you ran away when you saw that you could not counter. So, just run away while you can can until that day you can run no more abd then Truth, stands laughing over you asking you " you don tire now?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Solofresh2:
You're demanding scientific proof for a metaphysical concept while believing in an invisible God.

Make it make sense

See yourself again. Always moving and changing post.

The thread shows i demanded for proof/evidence; any valid proof or evidence of any kind is all i asked for.

Yet, here you are changing it to "scientific proof".

You knew it was metaphysical when you made your claims, so prove it validly, if you can.

Roycemadeit:
You haven't really addressed my argument.

I never said people are being personally charged for eating Adam's fruit. My argument is that I don't need Adam and Eve or original sin to explain the suffering we see today.

You say the land is bad because people are guilty of lying, stealing, murder, paganism, etc. But that only raises another question: how do you establish that poverty, disease, war and inequality are divine consequences of those sins rather than consequences of identifiable human actions and institutions?

If Tinubu, Trump, Dangote or any other human being makes decisions that affect millions of people, those consequences can be investigated politically, economically and socially. Calling the population "sinful" doesn't explain how those systems actually produce suffering.

And if God is making the land suffer because of people's sins, then why should we focus on changing governments, economies, healthcare systems, education and social institutions? Wouldn't the real solution simply be to eliminate sin?

My point remains simple: we inherited a world we did not create, but we are responsible for the world we are creating

You raised the issue of inheriting Adam's offence hence the need to point out that you are not charged with his offence.

And i addressed the issue in pointing out that why are people crying that Buhari and Tinubu have caused poorverty, death both in hospitals from fake drugs and low pay to sickness arising from lack of jobs to working excessive hours?

If you were in America now, is it people on the streets who have an issue with iran or king Trump who is nowhere near the warzone but has sent young men and women to be murdered while he eats, drinks, parties and golf's in exotic hotels?

God is not making you suffer, it is your parents and grandparents who have planted a world of suffering and unfortunately, it is you guys who eat the harvest of them all

Solofresh2:
I don't argue with spiritually unawakened souls
It's a waste of energy
So kindly keep off because explaining to you is a waste of my precious energy

The thread already shows you argued and are arguing and that you lost because you could not refute nor give any valid and reasonable counter to my argument, so you are running away resorting to ad hominem fallacies to cover your embarrassment. 🤣🤣🤣

"No one is more miserable than the person who runs from the truth." — Plato

Keep running, but you are only running towards the day your leg breaks and you can run no more 🤣. Then, Truths mocks and asks "have you finished running away? Oya run na" 🤣🤣🤣

Solofresh2:
You have no evidence but all you do is talk talk and talk
Is Jesus Christ not part of your Bible story and parables 🤣

The thread shows you changing post which means I gave evidence that you could not counter, so you ran to another place 🤣🤣🤣

"No one is more miserable than the person who runs from the truth." — Plato

Keep running, but you are only running towards the day your leg breaks and you can run no more 🤣. Then, Truths mocks and asks "have you finished running away? Oya run na" 🤣🤣🤣

Solofresh2:
You don't have any evidence all you do is talk talk and talk
I pity your lost soul 😔
Don't reply me again until you have your evidence

See it. The thread shows i have given you evidence and since you could not deny nor supply any reasonable counter to it, you resorted to insulting me (ad hominem fallacy) and running away begging me not to reply you. 🤣

"No one is more miserable than the person who runs from the truth." — Plato

Keep running, but you are only running towards the day your leg breaks and you can run no more 🤣. Then, Truths mocks and asks "have you finished running away? Oya run na" 🤣🤣🤣

Solofresh2:
Jesus Christ dying for your sin is parable too abi 🤣

See am, now you don shift yet again go Jesus Christ.

Continue, when doctor tell you say you get cancer you go know say self deceit get expiry date.

Also why is it that it is always only bad people who never know that satan exists?

Cum4me:
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.

See how you people confuse yourselves.

You never comot for this hostel called earth were satan dey play with una, yet you dey add universe wey you never see.

And of course who never experience say na the time wen you decide say you don tire for all the bad bad things you don do na im be the time to do good go hard well well?

And na dat time one spirit go kon even make you do the worse thing wey you never even do before?

ifenes:
Human emotions and imagination often make us mistake feelings for divine revelation. If God is truth itself, then the way to know God is through reason, not private experiences. A belief should be accepted because it is rational , not simply because it “feels”like God told you so.

How do you reason without experience?

Were you not told "do not put your hands in the fire it would burn you", but you went ahead and still did it anyway?

And funny it is still the same reason that made you do so.

It is only evil oppressors and people with skeletons in their cupboards who say "don't question"

A person trapped in mud slide cannot save himself

Solofresh2:
Oh now I see how ignorant you are 😂
You expect those people to come again to life as who they were before death?
It will never and never be possible
You will always come back to earth after death either your soul likes it or not
What prison did God keep for you 😂
Stop deceiving yourself bro.You can only reap what you sow

So if they come back being different people or things, how are they the same old people you claim they are?

How do you know that they are the same former people who have lived and died?

And what evidence did you see to even trace that my poor mechanic is Sun Tzu?

Solofresh2:
You for no believe am na.
Maybe you don't experience what your so called biology, physical and computer were talking about about.Maybe you don't have evidence of them

Show me the evidence of garden of Eden in the Bible and show me the evidence of a snake speaking to Eve 😂

Now you have shifted post to ask for evidence/proof of the Bible.

And if you had believed God and the Bible and obeyed, you would have known that Garden of Eden is not a place with a specific location but a parable that simply means a "Place/Land of great goodness and joy.

Same thing for the snake/serpent which even your dictionary (another thing written by men) also pointed out that is an idiom meaning "a cunning, malicious, or untrustworthy person.

So, you see you thought i could not answer the question whereas it was actually easy as i have found what God hides from sin full people exactly as is Written in the Bible.

ifenes:
. My point is simply that goodness motivated by reward or fear is morally different from goodness chosen freely, with nothing expected in return. Which category do you fall in ?

Unfortunately, you are wrong for no one lives doing things in vain. Everything, must be done for something

ifenes:
Oga ‘Religious people’ doesn’t mean every religious person behaves this way; it describes a tendency within organised religion. Of course sincere believers in God exist who do good without bargaining with god. My point is simply that goodness motivated by reward or fear is morally different from goodness chosen freely, with nothing expected in return. Which category do you fall in ?

I'm sure you do not real eyes that atheism is a religion too.

ifenes:
Think of it...If god really exists, the Atheists might be his favourite people.

Why ? Mos religious people treat god like a vending machine, always putting in prayers and expecting rewards. They help someone only because they want a sit in heaven. Every action is like a business deal with god.

But Atheists, they don't believe in any rewards system. When they help someone, it's not because of heaven or escaping hell...they expect nothing in return. Now tell me, who will god respect more ?

Funny how it is those who don't believe in god are actually doing what god wants....Being good for no reason at all is the new flex.

You atheists and lying and delus and deceiving yourselves and others. Yet here you are claiming you do good, when even in this you just "L" elled

Solofresh2:
I don't really subscribe to biblical events as real because most of this Bible tales as real life events.Remember it was written by humans like you and I.
But if it's real then yes,they deserve it.
In life, you can only get what you deserve.It will not always be in the the same mortal form.
The only power you have is over the current life you are living.If you use it well you will live well in the next one.If you have done evil in the past in this current life, and start living well now, you will still be punished for the evil you have done even if you are good in your next life

Modern biology and physics and computer were written by humans and you believe them, so your argument is illogical.

Just say you don't subscribe to the Bible because you don't want to and not because of silly reason

Solofresh2:
When you pay your karma fully you are free.One thing you should understand is that people are the architect of their own problems.
For example now, imagine someone who is poor and also now stealing,no job, jealous, not happy with his neighbor success and later became successful.
The poverty he has finished and he later became financially successful because he stopped those negative actions and intentions in his past life at a point and it has now reflected leading to his success in this life.Did you get it now?
So in his next life, the karma for his stealing and bad intentions when he was still poor will show up again even if might still be successful again in the next life so, your actions in this life matters that is why you have to always live positively with positive intentions if you you want a full positive life which I doubt most people can do

Which next life?
Why has no one seen Lucius Tarquinius Superbus (Tarquin the Proud): or Idi Ami or Hitler yet?

Here and now is all you get after life on Earth, the next is for God to Judge those who are going to fuel His prison from those who are going to the remake of this earth.

socoharley:
Now run off..you have something to go masturbate on...

hahahahaha now you are confessing you need to release as rain has finished falling and you don't even have a girlfriend. Let your mummy not catch you!

Jumbojax:
You cannot get to heaven through the law, The law is to show you why you will be damned. Grace, the gospel, is your only way out.

Meanwhile, it is Law that damns, condemns and is sends people to prisons of fire.

So, you misunderstand what Paul meant when in fact Wisdom Said

Psalm 19
7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes

Proverbs 3:
"My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee."

Proverbs 6:23,:
"For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life."


So, you see, pastors have deceived people into misunderstanding and misinterpreting Paul's words to their peril. You can see God Said, The Law gives life.

Don moen song, is what makes me easily remember this

'My son give attention to my words (Oh yes)
Incline your ear to my sayings
Do not (Do not) let them depart from your eyes
Keep them in the midst of your heart (Heart)

For they are life to those who find them
And health to all their flesh
For they are life to those who find them
And health to all their flesh

socoharley:
Who be this one? school is reopening next week..have you washed and ironed your school uniform?

Hehehehe! As you no fit answer na to insult remain na. hahahahaha

And I know you are going to school next week which is why you are thinking it is mummy and daddy that created you.

Jumbojax:
Have you kept the law perfectly

Don't switch ground to me, i did not say i am perfect. But the Truth remains the Truth and it has not changed and it will not change as God has Said. God's Law always runs it's course and so anyone who does not want to be mowed down by The Law better place himself on the right side of it. And that is what I am trying to do.

rapcy:
Who gave them the parts they used in creating you.

You would have asked him that if it was so, then why are his parents barren? And why did they create an ogliboy like him instead of beautiful girls they can sell under bride price/?

socoharley:
Na your papa give them

See am, you no fit answer na why you change post go hin side.

Roycemadeit:
This is why religion functions as an escape from responsibility.

Why should people thousands of years later explain poverty, disease, war, abuse, and inequality through the actions of two figures from an ancient story? I did not eat the fruit or make that decision, so holding me accountable would be unjust.

The story also conflicts with scientific evidence. Fossils, archaeology, and genetics show that modern humans have existed for roughly 300,000 years, with hominin ancestors reaching back millions of years. A literal Adam and Eve is inconsistent with human genetics.

Without this story, we would study disease, economics, psychology, politics, and human behavior; and seek practical solutions. But calling the world “broken because of the Fall” can discourage responsibility by treating poverty and suffering as inevitable or divinely planned. Adam and Eve are not governing countries, designing economies, starting wars, exploiting workers, or controlling access to food, healthcare, education, and opportunity.

We are.

We do not need Adam and Eve or original sin to explain human cruelty. I can observe it directly. Nor do we need paradise to justify reducing suffering. If someone is suffering, that alone is reason to care.

The world we inherited may not be our fault but the world we leave behind is our responsibility.

Is there anyone charging you for eating the fruit? No.

What are you charged for? Is it not disobedience, stealing, lying, dishonour of your body, paganism, malice, murder etc ust like your parents have done?

Did you not read that corsed is anyone who does any ONE of these things? So how shall it be when people in your land including you are guilty of just 10 of these?

How do you expect that the land to be good to you?

Do you expect good from Tinubu, Peter Obi, Atiku, Trump, Dangote etc? So, if they are your kings, how would you think that your life will be good?

You people are not serious