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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do You Think Is Going To Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 8:13am On Oct 16, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
According to God there is just two options for humans:
Life ~ filled with all kinds of activities! Genesis 1:28
Death ~ no activity! Ecclesiastes 9:10..
And then there is wake up from death and activity once again. Some to pain and suffering and others to joy and pleasure. Daniel 12:2
Christianity Etc › Re: How Is God's Foolishness Wiser Than Men's Wisdom? by Dtruthspeaker:
Omooba77:
How is God's foolishness wiser than men's wisdom?
Simple: God says stick to your wife.

Man says have as many wives as you want.

Then the idiot who took many wives starts lamenting there is no peace in my home

Case 2
God says give to get.

Men say take all you can get and give nothing.

Then people wonder why they are poor and hungry and always wanting.

Case 3
God says Follow me and live

Men say follow who know road. Then they come out and shout how my best friend, neighbour, stranger deceived and duped me and put me in trouble.

Case 4
God Says "Follow Me and Trust me"

Men say follow Obi, Buhari, Tinubu, Atiku, Elon Musk, Davido, Dangote, Robert Kiyosaki, APC, PDP, etc and then they cry Buhari is useless, Atiku is a thief, Obi is wicked, APC Na bastard etc
Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Sunday Nairalanders (photo) by Dtruthspeaker: 7:59am On Oct 16, 2022
DaniWhizbang:
I don't know how I gave you the notion that am a workaholic but hey, whatever works for you. Cheers mate
You don't have to be a workaholic to earn crumbs. grin The security guys working at abandoned buildings ain't working hard and they still have a miserable living.

But no chill.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do You Think Is Going To Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 7:54am On Oct 16, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
All humans are going to Hell because Hell simply means Grave so once we die we all go to our grave to rest! Ecclesiastes 9:10
That is because it is your wish thinking and preference that burial of the body in earth (grave) should be hell whereas hell ordinarily means a very bad and evil place of great pain and sorrow and unhappiness and discomfort.
Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Sunday Nairalanders (photo) by Dtruthspeaker: 7:39am On Oct 16, 2022
DaniWhizbang:
cheesy

If you literally believe that, then you no different from a religious fanatic
Hence why you people work like headless chickens only to earn crumbs and you return the next day only to work more harder and stronger and the crumbs seems to be littler than the last one. grin

What a way miserable way to live.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Bury Moses Himself? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:34am On Oct 16, 2022
Tboy222:
Was Moses more holy than Jesus Christ, was Moses more holier than Enoch who was caught up to Heaven, was Moses more holier than Elijah, was Moses more holier than John the baptist.
Change of Post. There was no comparison in your question.

Tboy222:
The same Moses killed an Egyptian and ran to Midian, the same Moses grew up in Pharaohs house and worshipped the gods of Egypt.
And all these was his pre-God years meanwhile you are talking about his post-God years and death
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Our Muslim Brothers Show More Concern Than We Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 7:29am On Oct 16, 2022
OsilaGama:
huh
Why are some Christans like this huh..
Because you too in return are not Christ-like.

It is still the same you who tries luring the wife and daughter (and in this today's evil world even the son is no longer safe) to sex and fornication.

Not to talk about the fact that you are running to my house simply because evil is pursuing you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Bury Moses Himself? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:21am On Oct 16, 2022
Tboy222:
[i]The bible tells us about the death of Moses, it was written that moses died and God buried him.

Now why would God bury Moses? Was it because he was so important to God? Was it because God loved him soooo much?

No, the exact reason why God buried Moses was that the death of Moses could turn out to be an hindrance to the progress of the Israelites to the promised land....]
Wrong!

Go read again. Moses attained the height of heights.

Only him could directly approach God. Aaron did not achieve this.

Only him could go and come from the mountain of God even when everyone else was barred from coming close to the mountain.

Only him could enter the tabernacle without cleansing and purification.

The answer is simply that Moses was so Holy that no man could touch his body (that is if they do not want to die just like the man who unlawfully touched the tabernacle)
Christianity Etc › Re: Against Antinomianism by Dtruthspeaker: 7:07am On Oct 16, 2022
He does not believe that does not live according to his belief. Thomas Fuller.
Christianity Etc › Re: What It Takes To Truly Enjoy Life by Dtruthspeaker: 7:04am On Oct 16, 2022
Interesting15:
Many times, an expression like "enjoying life" is synonymous with such things as clubbing, alcoholism, womanizing, illicit sexual activities, etc. But this is plain ignorance - folks only missed things up!
...
These things are not "enjoying life". These things are depletion of life and romance (having sex) with death.
Christianity Etc › Re: Walking By Faith by Dtruthspeaker: 6:59am On Oct 16, 2022
Btruth:
The chances are you will never find yourself in a lions’ den, a fiery furnace, or facing a giant, though some days it will feel like it. But when you’re under attack:

(1) pray and claim God’s power

(2) walk by faith, and

(3) go in ‘the name of the Lord.’
If you are a sinner, then all these are a waste for God does not hear sinners.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do You Think Is Going To Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 6:56am On Oct 16, 2022
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:41am On Oct 16, 2022
chiommy123:
Truly the purpose of life is to serve your creator everyday of your life
Not correct.

We were created to be members of our Creator's Familee, but our ancestors turned us to His "Osu", cast outs, rejects,
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of Life? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:38am On Oct 16, 2022
goodshepherd123:
...Even when you were still in the womb( Jer 1 vs 5), he already has a purpose for your life just as a manufacturer has a purpose for what he is creating. However,for a product to discover his purpose he must go back to the manufacturer.
1). The purpose of life is to know God.
Actually, God made us to Joyment and jollyfication.

But our ancestors destroyed it!

So, now, it is only those who are wise who real eyes that enjoyment and good living always resides in and with our Manufacturer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fornication And The Mystery Of DNA: Fact or Myth? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:32am On Oct 16, 2022
IrepChrist:
For those that did not marry a virgin. Train your girl child to marry as a virgin.
Spread this information again and again to our teenage girls. Stay away from premarital sex
Parents are evil. Yes I said it. And they are part of the leaders of the world who are anti-God. Thus, since they are anti-God and sin full, they can and will not make their children Holy.

So all I say to any undefiled girl is
1) God Cursed your kind and pre-marital sex activates that Curse. So, Fear God, Do that which is a good and Obey your Guide always aka "Conscience". And you need God's Help because now your mother and anti-Godly sisters and finally your family would hate you and make your living Pain Full. BUT GOD IS STRONGER THAN THEM ALL.

2) Premarital sex kills you. Even the one with your boyfriend who truly loves you and would marry you or is about to marry you, WOULD STILL KILL YOU.

SEX IS ONLY GOOD AND BRINGS BLESSINGS ONLY AFTER LAW FULL MARRIAGE.

That is why many women who had sex with their boyfriends before they lawfully married, even long after their marriage, hate and blame their boyfriend now husband for not waiting because they now real eyes that they Lost Something very valuable.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by Dtruthspeaker: 6:04am On Oct 16, 2022
tctrills:
I totally agree with the verse. Moses 10 commandments explained the Sabbath best. 6 days shall you labour but the seventh is the Sabbath of the Lord.
It's a simple commandment, work for six days and rest in the seventh.
Obviously the Jews had a sabbath but the question is, what is the Lord's commandment.
That is why I showed you the Exodus 12:16 Commandment, which came even before they got the 10 Commandments.

Sabbath means "A Holy Day Declared by The Lord". And on whatever occasion of Holy Day which arrives, even if it is on the second day of the week, no work would be done in and on that day.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jesus Is Lord? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:54am On Oct 16, 2022
HRprof:
@ bolded explain it all - meaning he was sent to you by God and he report back to God and not God himself.
Yes!

I always tell people to look carefully at Genesis 1 to 21, we see 2 Persons Speaking;
1)God (The Highest) and

2) The Lord, God which means The Lord Who is man's own God. (hence His Declaration to Moses on the mountain) which in chapter 4 changed to "The Lord" since we now know Who is He is.

Hence "John 8:58 shows that Jesus Christ is He Who is The Lord Who is our God on Genesis 1, 2, 3 and in Exodus 3:14
Christianity Etc › Re: Why do you go to church? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:36am On Oct 16, 2022
Sunnyshinylight:
You are right, don't be moved, every sin start spiritual and then manifest physical, stand your ground.

I mean every one of them, including stealing, covetousness and everyone of them.
I know especially when I learnt in Law that to be convicted for any crime/sin/offence/trespass mens rea and actus reus must be present.

"men's rea" means "guilty mind" (guilty spirit) aka "commission of a crime in spirit" exactly what Christ said about being guilty in your mind, even without the physical adultery.

actus reus means "guilty acts" which means the physical accomplishment of your earlier guilty mind..
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear God!. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:37pm On Oct 15, 2022
fykes:
God is able to do, exceedingly, abundantly above all you can ask or think
Only for those who His Children, with His Spots. Deuteronomy 32:5
Christianity Etc › Re: Dear God!. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:34pm On Oct 15, 2022
Ever8090:
Dear God, some of us are not demanding much from life: just a simple shelter, food, clothing for ourselves and family, and to.help some people around that we can...

God, we do not desire to owen the whole world but just a little to give us little comfort untill we go the way of all men...
Son of man, I gave you everything, food, shelter, clothing and My only Son, yet you despised them all, until now, "it is Finished"!

… We each walk the path, that we've chosen

… I'm ready to meet him
We're I'm living ain't right
Black hate white
White hate black
It's right back
To the same fight
They got us suspecting a war
But the real war is to follow the law of the lord

… Lord, you left me stranded
And I don't know why

Told me to live my life
Now I'm ready to die
Ready to fly
I cry, but I shed no tears
You told me you would dead those fears, it's been years
Snakes still coming at me
Just missing
Sometimes I think all you doing me is just listen
I thought that I was special
That's what you told me
Hold me
Stop acting like you don't know me
What I do so bad that it sent you away from me
Not only sent you away, but made you stay away from me
(My child I'm here, as I've always been, it was you who went away
And now are back again, what did I say)

Follow your word, and be true
(What did you do)
Well, what I wanted to do
(What have you seen)
Darkness and hell at a glance
(What do you want)
All I want is another chance.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why do you go to church? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:15pm On Oct 15, 2022
paxonel:
that's what conventional religion has conceived in your heart to see when you read those scriptures. Not that fornication, adultery or lust were even mentioned anywhere in that scripture.

You hear the words flesh or canally minded the next thing you think in your mind is, it's talking about fornication, adultery and lust grin

Religion don spoil una for Africa finish
It's the easiest and fastest sin you people easlly do which starts from spirit and ends physically. All others like murder, stealing, covetousness may not be implemented physically but forni and adultery are the easily guaranteed ones.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:10pm On Oct 15, 2022
tctrills:
It actually means rest or day a rest. God's command is simple. Labor for 6 days and rest for a day.
Read again. Exodus 12;16 is also a Sabbath hence
Leviticus 26:2 KJV: Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Not just one Sabbath but Sabbaths.
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs Jesus Didn't Die On The Cross. Part 1 by Dtruthspeaker: 7:25pm On Oct 15, 2022
Olambees:
I never judge anyone! I only said from what I observe from being a Muslim, we Muslims are more Christians..
That is a judgement you are passing on yourself, because you are Muslim. Invalid.

Olambees:
Okay,
Now, convince me to Christianity by using a direct word from Christ...
Note: All quotes must not comes from any other source than from the four canonical (synoptic) gospel..... Do not quote Paul or any other scholars...
If Christ's direct Word in Mathew, Mark and co, could not convince you, it is impossible for me or any other lesser follower to do so.

Christ's Words were very precise, clear and direct and all it takes is for any one who TRULY wants to find out if they are a good way to live, IS SIMPLY TO TRY (TEST) THEM OUT. The same way we tested our biology textbooks to see if what they say is True or Robert kiyosaki things or like me James Hardley Chase and other action novels.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by Dtruthspeaker: 6:27pm On Oct 15, 2022
tctrills:
So the meaning of Sabbath day is simply the seventh day. God's command is simple, rest on the seventh day. He never spoke of any particular day. So long as the seventh day of rest is observed, the commandment is kept.
Sabbath does not mean "the seventh" it means "The Holy Day" and No Work shall be done on those days.

Therefore there are other Sabbaths in addition to the 7th Day eg the first day of Annual Passover Exodus 12:16
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Proofs Jesus Didn't Die On The Cross. Part 1 by Dtruthspeaker: 5:58pm On Oct 15, 2022
Olambees:
Lol

We Muslims are more Christian than the Christians themselves If Christian means a person who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Did you not hear that anyone who judges himself, his judgement is invalid?

Olambees:
Tell me any thing Just name one thing that Jesus Christ did that you Christians are doing today. Absolutely none. How dare you now call me an Anti-Christ.

Jesus never eat pork, we Muslims don't eat it either. We Muslims obey the law as Jesus said, if you love me, you keep my commandments. We Muslims pray the way Jesus prayed. We water our hands, feet and head as Jesus Christ had instructed. Jesus kept his beard, so we Muslims.

You people are the Anti-Christ, for you abolish the law of the prophets and embrace Paul.

You are the Anti-Christ.
You confuse church going with Christianity.

Christianity means Christ-likeness, and you truly observe that many church goers are very far from being Christ-like.

And this thread definitely shows how far from Christ you are even though you do not eat pork and do what Christ called "a show of righteousness"
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jesus Is Lord? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:50pm On Oct 15, 2022
HRprof:
Definition of lord is different from being called God. Lord is title that signifies being leader in charge of people or things example
Landlord is the owner of his own land right ? Not lord over another person’s land
Judge in the law court are called my lord during court proceedings, and can only be lord within his jurisdiction or at that particular court hearing.
Now let’s relate to Jesus as lord - this signifies his leadership over Christianity and Christians alone not Lord over every religious and not God to all that’s why he made mention in the Bible saying “as he is so are we”
I am a Christian and that is my understanding about the quote “Jesus is lord”
What do I know wink
Then you did not appreciate when Jesus said "John 8:58 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

The same "Tell Pharoah and the children of Israel that I AM hath sent me into you" Exodus 3:14
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Christians Don't Worship On Saturday by Dtruthspeaker: 5:36pm On Oct 15, 2022
Kobojunkiee:
All this is meaningless jabber related to the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, which Jesus Christ warned His followers to steer clear of - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 -13 undecided...
Mathew 19:17
"but if thou wilt enter into life, KEEP THE Commandments
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Christians Don't Worship On Saturday by Dtruthspeaker: 5:31pm On Oct 15, 2022
Debater:
... However, because the Resurrection and the beginning of Creation had both occurred on the first day of the week (Sunday), the church soon observed that day instead...
You spoilt it by showing you say this because you are 7day People.

Notwithstanding, people ought to know that God clearly said "To be a Statute Forever"!

The same forever used for Abraham's Contract which God is still upholding till tomorrow.

So, even if there is more communal respect for the first day of the week, The Law of Seventh Day, ought to be obeyed, if any had any Respect and Love for God!
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins,then Came Back To Life,wouldn't That Break The Deal? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:22pm On Oct 15, 2022
Creamypie:
No. His resurrection is to give hope that ALL those who worshipped his father and had died b4 will raise up, just as those after his resurrection too.so christian faith should preach this as a foundation of Christian faith...... But everything is on timetable, which only God knows. So he's giving us benefit of time to repent and to know whose ruler ship was right and best.... Gods own b4 Adamic sin or our life after his sin, which brings all problems, such as death, wars
The Resurrection is to show that we are just like our phones and cars that we can always bring back to life as many times as they die.

That death is not the end! (To all those wishing for nothingness after death)

That there is nothing like permanent death unless and until The Creator decides that He wills it so. And God has not yet willed it so.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins,then Came Back To Life,wouldn't That Break The Deal? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:14pm On Oct 15, 2022
englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?
Wow! People are desperate.

Is the word not "die"?

The question then is that did He Die?

Answer: Yes He Did!

So, the deal was fulfilled.

It was not in the deal that the Person should die forever! The contract did not say so.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Existence Of A God Does NOT Solve The Moral Dilemma by Dtruthspeaker:
AuthenticKing:
Your Bible declaring other gods as false simply settles my argument against yours. For all the gods that existed before your Bible, it declares them false and establishes it's god as the right one.
Remember this:

Your Bible invalidates other gods it borrowed from, declared them as false gods and claimed it had the truth.
DTruthSpeaker, I ask again, do you have any strong rebuttal to this?
The rebuttal is very clear and the whole world saw it that God of the Bible completely wiped out all of Sumeria (Ur) and Babylon (Hammurabi) as He Said He was going to do to them in the Bible and their gods could not save them

And we have their relics and records proving it today.

AuthenticKing:
This was the definition you provided, take a look at the third definition at the bolded, what's the difference between that and "laid down by an authority"?
The word said "PUT FORTH authoritatively" and not laid down by an authority".

AuthenticKing:
Smh. Slavery, genocide, jealousy, anger, insecurity, deceit, sexism, etc as depicted by your God is morals, equity and just? What of ridiculous actions depicted by some supposedly upright men in your book?
Change of Post! You accused me of

"...You have a deep hatred and problem with those who refuse to accept your ridiculous claims."

Hence my answer.

So, now you have changed post yet again by making another false accusation.

AuthenticKing:
And I am free to share my opinion if I find the 'god' beliefs to be ridiculous, people
Maybe!

But the heading of this section clearly says "Religion: Share your faith and belief in God or higher powers here. Ad Rate: ₦6,831.36/week (57.5% discount).

So apparently, it is not for anti-God people, So you have no rights to even say this

"A dogma means telling the whole world that they were created by a God, not just a God but the God of the Bible.even when there's no evidence to support this claim. ...

Brothers and sisters following this thread, please judge, who is imposing dogmas on others?"

This is Religious section and we are free to share our belief in God here.

If you do not like it, then do not come here. It's as simple as that!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why do you go to church? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:29pm On Oct 15, 2022
paxonel:
no!
That statement isn't 100% correct.
They do not always manifest, infact the spirit was never meant to manifest in anything on earth from the beginning of creation. It's just that, God have to intervene on humans sometimes, due to Adam's disobedience

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

So, there is separation between the flesh and the spirit

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.


So there is flesh or this physical world and it thing separated at one side, while the spirit things are separated at the other side.
The two were not suppose to meet, unless God deem it fit for them to meet only when it is necessary. For instance, a supernatural miracle occurence.

That's why Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world.
Because the kingdom is a spirit thing
Ah! See how you have mixed up everything because you do not understand and now, I know that you are set on not understanding, as you like it the way all is jumbled up in your mind and you do not want anyone here to change it.

So, all I would say is that you are wrong. Everything starts in spirit and ends physically as proven by fornication and adultery aka lust in your heart and mind, which we all know starts in our spirit even before it is implemented physically.

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