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Steep:
It is common sense

Yes O! Very simple common sense but stupid anger and hatred for God deprives them of good, common sense.

Reggie2:
People pretend to be Christians to do stuff. The purity of Jesus’ teaching and the stuff people do are two different ball games.

People disguise themselves as Christians to perpetrate evil. And others blame it on the Christian religion. Europe is guilty of this pretext.

Colonial powers adopted Christianity before coming to Africa. Agreed! Its values affected their mode of living but it was not imposed on them. The arrogance that European culture is superior to Africa’s is the issue here.

The version of Christianity brought to Africa is Europe contaminated. This is why disgruntled Africans think Christianity is a product of Europe. They are right in this regard. But Christ and Christianity were not born in Europe. Simple!

https://onlyformyladies.com/christianity-is-not-a-white-mans-religion/

They know but they have to use every evil thing to attack God as they have always done.

LordReed:
If it was already known then you won't try to use it as a point.

Because it is already known then it is a point to be used to juggle rememberance.

Steep:
There are many things people believe but have not seen, probably will not see them throughout their entire life. However, does that mean they are foolish or have a low IQ?

Viruses,bacteria and other micro organisms are not seen with bare eyes but however we believe they are real because their activities can be observed and only recently were aids invented to be able to see and study them but the early scientist who discovered them probably never saw them but concluded they must exist simply by observing natural occurrence. So, many people including you there reader probably may not be able to see them but you might believe they exist.

Atoms, electrons, protons, etc were never seen yet men of old proposed the theory of their existence, how did they arrive at this? Through logic! Atoms were called in divisible form of matter. The logic stem from division, yes if we keep dividing or breaking down matter to it's nearest minimum, we get to a point where we can no longer divide or break it by any physical means, the form of matter at that point is what they called atom.
Guess what it is true to some certain extent.

Alot of things we believe to be true, have not personally being experienced but are probably true.
For example we believe if we jump into a moving vehicle we might get killed but have we experiment it? NO! But we believe it is true probably base on what has happened to others.

Belief in God
With these in mind is it logical to believe on the existence of God?
YES!
Although we cannot see God, the creation is an evidence that he exist.
I have prayed to God and gotten answers
His words are tested and trusted.
Do I need to see God before I believe?
No, just as I don't need to jump into a moving vehicle to know I can die by doing it. I believe in God base on the evidences provided by nature and base on logic.
For example only life can give rise to life.
If I believe in God then who created God
These question is only valid if God was part of the creation, just like saying "If cars are made of metals, then the creators should also be made of metals"
Everything that is created must have a beginning but the ultimate creator does not.

Psalms 19:1-3 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

Tell them! The proof of Seun is Nairaland, the proof of Mr.Toyoda is his Toyotas, the proof of owner of House is Control over the House. The Proof of Creator is THAT NOTHING CREATES ITSELF, in this world!

LordReed:
LoL! You said you don't answer requests of those who are not your children but now you are backtracking. Why do you use absolutes you can't defend.

In social discuss of an ordinary nature the parties are generally aware of all the facts which surrounds the discussion which is why you are the anomaly asking what is already known.

Yet another new moniker, meen Workch is Craaazy. I tell you

Anyway, isn't this the Rapture? Aren't the goats departing from the the sheep?

LordReed:
Really? You don't help strangers in direct contradiction of your bible?

Everyone knows that rendering assistance to strangers is not the same as having an obligation to guarantee their good well being.

Help and Assistance to strangers are Always fleeting, light and irregular!

Bacteriologist:
Great.

Let's talk about Genesis.

1. Genesis 6:19 God commands Noah to bring 2 of every kind of animals, clean or unclean. You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. 20 Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive.

Yet in Genesis 7:1 he is to take either 7 or 7 pairs of each clean animal, and (presumably) 2 of all the rest.
The Lord then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth

Simply 2 different instructions. The First One was at the very commencement of the Countdown and the Second One at the last Few Days of the Destruction.

Nothing Abnormal or Inconsistent here.

Bacteriologist:
2. God created man and woman at the same time.

Gen 1:27
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them

God created women after men.

Gen 2:21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

Gen 1:27- Disclosure of plan to manufacture man and woman exactly as Toyota's Mirai

Gen 2:21- the manufacturing process and Launching of the all new womb man exactly as the 2022 Toyota Tacoma is already in Sales Stores.

Nothing Inconsistent or Abnormal here.

Today, we already know what the 2025 Camry would like, yet it has technically not been manufactured!

Kobojunkie:
The vast majority of those who enter into the Kingdom of God aka are born-again enter in through the broad gate which leads to destruction(Hell) , whereas only only few will enter through the narrow Gate that leads to True Life(Heaven). - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 24 - 28

Kingdom of God that has not yet Come?

MITCHELL96:
Nope, the first time I heard that prophesy was 2009, I started Balling 2007, and this is 2021

My hope and mind is only on this career like mad.

So you see, it is you who promised you.

house10s:
the world is on auto pilot.
God is tired of the things he created

Nope! He told you "I Go that, that evil beast may come". John 14:30.

And the beast has come and you can see and feel his Rule.

jcross19:
you are bitter, because you have not seen Him did not make Him nonexistence and your opinion don't change anything .. A fate has already befell on you.

He is everything evil because he knows that God Rejected him Ezekiel 9:5. (Rapture)

He has the mark of death!

Truvelisback:
I hate Ur JW kingdom halls too. They preach heresies.

Ye, mo gbé! I dodge am! JW ke? Ah, I'll rather travel through to Lagos by road from Kaduna.

And it was very unnecessary that you attack me for if the Pastors truly knew God, they would have seen these phenomenon because IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN HAPPENING AND PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS REPORTED IT, therefore, they were supposed to explain it to people and tell them what shall happen after that.

So it is unfair and unjust and definitely evil for you to attack me because I point out the Destruction they have done to souls who trusted them to tell The Truth.

They are responsible for the deaths of millions of souls who after seeing The Light of God and could have Followed Him and Be Saved, but Now they die.

They led the sheep to the slaughter.

Truvelisback:
I hate Ur JW kingdom halls too. They preach heresies.

Ye, mo gbé! I dodge am! JW ke? Ah, I'll rather travel through to Lagos by road from Kaduna.

Fego50:
Personally as a defence attorney, it would seem, the charge is basically meant to put a legal leeche on the accused neck, not because there is any substance in the charge.

The law under which the charge is brought, to my mind never contemplated the cyberspace to mean "public", it would have made more sense if the charge is brought under the Cybercrime Prevention and Prohibition Act 2015. The Ogun State Criminal Code was made far before the advent of WhatsApp.My humble opinion though.

Cyber space is definitely a public space as the words SOCIAL media potray!

Inquiryhub:
Well, the truth is I would say I used to have a me and him relationship. We communicate regularly and I do feel his presence but I won’t lie, I had a little drift when things got somehow hard and I have been asking him to intervene and I wasn’t getting response...

It is alway this story and THIS MISTAKE. And this is why I hate those evil places called churches/pastors, False Prophets are they all. They did not teach the important thing.

"Draw near to The Lord whilst He is Near" is Your Mistake.

For now, it is you who has to find Him, which as you can see, it is impossible. And this is the reason why those who call themselves atheists, say there is No God, because like you, He can almost never be found.

The Bible forewarned us that God Comes to Us, (You do not go to Him) and He does all the things you have described, BUT FOR A SEASON!

AND IF YOU MISSED THIS BOAT, SCARCELY IS THERE A SECOND ONE.

And this happens to all persons, even the atheists too, if they shall say the Truth.

Solution! The solution is a very Long and Hard One, but it depends entirely on you (As the Bible said, you shall have to work out your own salvation)

So the question is, do you know truly what is at Stake and what you should be saving?

LordReed:
So you're saying that this post:
Does not imply you mean it always happens?

This statement was directed at a the specific party personally and it can not be used or stretched to

LordReed:
According to the Bible who did John the Baptist behead in other for him to suffer losing his own? Who did Stephen stone to death to suffer same fate? Who did James kill?

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Illegal Connections are Wrong and Invalid Connections.

LordReed:
Your presentation was that acts breed equal consequences all the time.

The bold! See your wicked addition when I never said anything about such?

Not True! My presentation was to confirm reports of the sightings of actions meeting their expected and needful retributions.

LordReed:
Your presentation was that acts breed equal consequences all the time.

The bold! See your addition?

Not True! My presentation was to confirm reports of the sightings of actions meeting their expected and needful retributions.

Ayo081:
Oh no o, it is just me being a truth speaker

Truth is Also The Way, son!

Ayo081:
It is difficult, even for us.
It is just a mindset of 'Father, let your will be done'.

That is the essence of His Laws. His Will is expressed and declared in them, so it is now our part to "Done" and "Do" His Will, if we of course want to!

Ayo081:
Oh no o, it is just me being a truth speaker

It is just a mindset of 'Father, let your will be done'.

That is the essence of His Laws. His Will is expressed and declared in them, so it is now our part to "Done" and "Do" His Will, if we of course want to!

triplechoice:
You still don't get it. With karma you know exactly the reason for what you get or what is happening.

All these was not in the discussion of "external agency"

Ayo081:
It is difficult, even for us.

Ah, son, even after all you said earlier! You are making me worried O because there is only one bad reason why it is difficult for you.

Which is that you do not truly want to Obey God AND HE KNOWS IT.

Ayo081:
It is difficult, even for us.

That's why Christ told us many are on the wide gate.[/quote]This is the way you are supposed to be leaving behind and of course it is easier to continue in your natural way than to proceed to an unknown territory.

Inquiryhub:
I am not a church goer. I think you should try and understand my points which are.

I believe in Christ and I have a personal relationship with him but the issue here is it seems he’s been mute

If you are having a relationship, it means 2 both of you relate.

Therefore, how is the relationship? Is it one sided or mutual?

Is it a talk and the other listens or both contribute to the subject?

Or is it a me- me (selfish) relationship, no care for or about the welfare of the other party, exactly as we see even friends relationship?

Most church people claim personal relationships, yet they are the only ones in the relationship.

Ayo081:
Absolutely!

Sir,

Trusting and obeying is the way, for there's no other way.

You Got it son, you got it!

Then learn the rythym so that it would become very easy!

That is why people abandon the Way because it is Very Difficult at the first.

Inquiryhub:
I think I have been a very good follower of Christ. I just do not understand why there’s total silence on my prayers.

Try never giving judgement to thine own self. Prov 27:2

I do not know what is your understanding of following Christ but, If You Truly Followed Christ, then there are many things you ought to have learnt AND ONE OF THEM IS HOW TO TRULY REACH GOD SUCH THAT YOU CAN HEAR FROM HIM.

triplechoice:
Who be church goer? Who tell you say I dey go church?

No vex, na church goer problem you describe.

triplechoice:
You car analogy doesn't make sense. Do you as a Christian regard the Koran as inspired by God?
You only regard and accept the Bible is the true word of God after conversion. That is the truth

Wow, you too? I blame bad education.

I am simply saying, if you go to a place eg church, which is supposed to cause some change (Born Again/Christian) and you remain the same, then you can not claim to have changed.

Just like going to a barbing saloon and returning still looking the same.

I clearly means you did not go to the barbers simple analogy!

triplechoice:
How

The course was the if there was truly a difference between retribution and karma and you said external agency.

Then by your examples, which you said was karma in operation, I showed you the external agency in them.

So right now you veered off into the internal agent, "What led to the accident? Your actions. And so who is responsible" which is not the issue.

Ayo081:
Dad,

I glorify God for his grace upon your life.

Meanwhile, I'll want you to recollect that many (of us) are babes in Christ. To be specific, the devil is on their matter 24/7 so they they'll die and wouldn't bear crop {Matthew 13}.

Your wisdom (Godly) on how you run your business successfully and how you we're able to stand firm and overcome will be bring many back on their feet and make the devil not win the battle.

Grace and peace be multiplied to you and I.

Ah my sweet son, I have spoken and spoken even Twice today, that there is no escaping God's Curse Unless and Until men Truly and Rightly Transform from being sons of Satan to sons of God.

Church going is not the Same as being a Christian.

It takes A lot, and lot and lot to finally become a Christ Follower.

That is the ONLY WAY!

MaxInDHouse:
I have warned you as the spirit says so your blood is not on my head {Ezekiel 33:7-9} you may continue speaking against the fine works of God's Holy Spirit! Luke 12:10

Ye know that ye warn emptily and take the Name of The Holy Spirit, Falsely and Fraudulently, for It is Written "Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips"

But ye Fear not to call The Holy Spirit Falsely into a vain matter, ah, oma se o!

DeepSight:
You dont even know just how you denigrate the concept of God with this ridiculous and barbaric doctrine of human sacrifice.

If I truly denigrated God, you would have shown it. Your bias and hatred for God is preventing you from being fair and reasonable.

Ayo081:
I think we should be sincere when replying.

Being a Son of God doesn't automatically mean all problems are gone.

Sweet Son, it greatly feels that way. God does so many wonderful things.

Problems are solved even before they become problems or solved after they have come WITH LITTLE OR NO INPUT FROM YOU.

Only those Sons of God can truly tell you this.

I am also in business too but I do not run up and down searching for loans and dollars and demurrage.

God's Counsel is the key!