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Harshirama:
Groanings are part of prayer. What else trancends human language if not what is unknown to to a natural man and common to all christians regardless of nationality. The problem people have with praying in the spirit is it sounds foolish to the mind. Same way the message of a man dying for sins and resurrecting sounds like nonsense to a natural man.

Like you said "unknown to to a natural man" but you gbababosh shinai is very well known to every reasonable natural man exactly as I have been replicating here. It is not hidden at all.

PediakAuthor:
Guy!! E be like say you dey whine me

Another CheckMate!

Ayo081:
I know was only pointing that it's a big task and when I look around or myself, I ask are really following Christ?

You already know the Answer.

A Great Great Multitude Do Not! Even the ones who have Self Named themselves Christ Followers aka Christians.

This I have seen, even right here in Nairaland, they completely disregard and discard His Instructions.

Harshirama:
1 Corinthians 14:2,4
[2]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Note the "No man understands him.." This means it has to be a language no natural man can understand but God understands.

This is Something Else and not yabadaba jigijigi.

This is the Highest Praying that goes beyond words and language and you saw how Paul described it, "SIGHS AND GROANINGS!"

And these are Not words or language.

Ayo081:
Apologies

Apologies accepted.

Ayo081:
Speaking of verse 24, that's a huge one and might need a thread.

Not a bad idea! I would be happy to point out that that's what "believe" clearly means.

Ayo081:
Are we all called to be disciples?

Clearly Verse 24 says "Follow Me" the same Words He used to when He employed and engaged His Disciples.

So clearly my answer is "Yes", we are called to be His Disciples.

Ayo081:
'Deny self' is not mere.

I did not say anything about "mere" Denial of self!

Ayo081:
You only pick verses that suits you?

But the Bible is a complete book.

I appreciate your genuineness.

C'mon now that is not right and just for you to say!

The bulk of the Bible is about Duties Imposed by Law and examples of those who carried out their duties and those who did not.

And thus, all the admonishings in the Bible fall into one Law or the Other. That is what I have seen and now know and therefore I speak from thence.

Ayo081:
N.B:

1) Those who aren't Christians should please stay off.

2) Christians should please ignore those who don't believe in Christ no matter how their post or quotes may hit you.

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In the verse below, it is obvious that Christ was addressing his disciples.

Please explain what the verse means and it's application today.



Kobojunkie, Dtruthspeaker, PastorM

Truthfully, I do not know!

I just took the part that is my duty which is in verse 24 "deny myself and follow after Him"

The one about"not tasting death" is not in my hand so I go on looking for my other duties which Christ called on me to do.

sylve11:
Those who aren't Christians should stay off and yet you went ahead to quote Kobojunkie.
Hehehe

PediakAuthor:
Kindly check through the previous conversations, you've just used the word "CHAMP" for the first time in your most-recent comment, and by the matter of fact, you were the first person to chip in "GAMBLE" into the conversation, so I had to play to your tune & tone by relating it with the Chess game, and also, we've earlier established the fact that Chess explains everything about humanity;

Yes you are right I did. I am obviously playing with the white pieces.

So I lead and you have to follow!

So now, the Gambler has come to a place he can not enter, so bye-bye Gambler and Hello Champ!

PediakAuthor:
either a CHAMP or a GAMBLER, that fact remains that; Greed is one of the greatest enemies of mankind; he who overcomes Greed would undoubtedly overcome TEMPTATIONS.

The Champ will tell you that there are many many enemies of mankind and one of the most powerful (but defeatable He Says) IS YOURSELF!

And greed is just one of the many many weapons YOURSELF throws against yourself to kill you.

Harshirama:
Proof from the scriptures please?

Acts 2 clearly says passers by of different nations heard what the disciples were saying.

The question is when praying would the disciples be doing so in a foreign language? No

They must speak their own Natural Language exactly as an Igbo man must pray in Igbo, his native tongue.

So how is conceivable that an Igbo man would pray in German tongue or Spanish, such that a German and Spanish will hear at the same time as they are passing by?

Acts 2 clearly tells us that the foreigners understood what the disciples were saying in Jewish language even though they were not Jewish.

Harshirama:
Mark 16:17
[17]And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

When Christ enters you, you become like Christ and a Changed man and even your speech too changes exactly as what said about the apostles "how is it that this unlearned and ignorant men speak so powerfully?"

So they were fishermen before Christ they were Changed Men (Fishers of Men) When Christ, Through the Holy Spirit came into them.

No shigishiga haba involved just Natural Living phenomenon we have all seen.

Morning!

PediakAuthor:
Every gambler fights against two types of enemies;

Greed is the primary enemy, which often seems like a spiritual force,
The opponent is the secondary enemy, which can be likened to the physical foe.
As we all know, people often say; the former controls the later.

Therefore, you Prove The Truth of the Bible which Always said "Heaven (spirit) and earth (physical) and we wrestle against both the flesh and blood (physical) and principalities and powers (spirit).

So all men are playing on 2 Chess Boards while being played on their own 2 Chess Boards where they are the chess pieces themselves.

PediakAuthor:
A gambler that overcomes greed will always be at the winning side; do you know why? He would always walk away after a little gain. A popular adage also says; "he who fights and run away lives to fight another day..."

I understand but I say, A Champ (not a gambler this time, for a Champ does not gamble) Always knows where the Win is and goes there to Win!

And when He loses, you should be worried!

HISSCRIBE1995:
I couldn't comprehend what your question really is sir.

Can you please elaborate a little more

I did not lay a question, I am saying that your belief in the yagahigi people do and say in the name "speaking in tongues" is Fake, chanting and PROOF OF A CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY SATAN.

Speaking in tongues Always means Natural dialect and language and not gagagoogoo baby sounds of communication

It is Satan's Pastors who teach these Lies!

Workch:
Any belief that is not substantiated by evidence is nothing more than delusion.

Even Better and Truer! Anything that is not substantiated IS A LIE AND FALSEHOOD!

Workch:
In the case of religion, it is mass delusion that has been brought on by organised religions taking advantage of gullible people, their hopes and their fears...

I know that it is very difficult for you but please try Be fair, Just and reasonable for in this world we have seen that there is no engagement or enterprise which is not afflicted by Fake and Adulterated Replicas whether government, school, books, teachings, music even human
beings themselves have fake human beings.

In this world were are troubled with finding the Original from the fakes.

So knowing all this, you can put these aside and ask reasonable questions, if you have any.

Workch:
So, as an atheist, on the basis that no credible evidence has ever been presented for the existence of any gods (of which there have been thousands) I’m a little confused which god theists would have me believe in.

Now you are Lying for I have severally Proven to you without any reasonable doubt from you (for you ran out of proper reasonable questions to ask and fell silent) The existence of God, The Only One and of course only stopping because it is not right for anyone to compell you to follow Him.

Workch:
Most ‘philosophical’ arguments (the teleological, cosmological, ontological, intelligent design, irreducible complexity, arguments against evolution or the big bang, arguments that god is responsible for evolution and the big bang, and a whole host of others) completely fail in describing which god is responsible. The same arguments can (and often are) used by theists from many different religions.

The difference is understandable for "Oluwa" in Yoruba will not have its place to an Igbo man unless they settle the issues and Agree.

Workch:
All religious scriptures are errant, contradictory and their veracity and authorship have been questioned since their inception. I think most theists don’t even see that their scriptures are not inherently proof of their content and often resort to circular reasoning.

It is seen we come and go, we are empty and Full, we are inside and Outside, we Work and we Rest.

This world we have is a world having OPPOSITES, what you would foolishly call contradictory.

We do not have a world where we have ONLY Come and no Go, ONLY Work and no Rest, ONLY Empty and no full.

If Contradictory means presence of Opposites, then we live in a Contradictory World.

Workch:
I honestly think most theists want to believe or are afraid not to believe (both positions for many reasons).

All God Lovers know that "Believe" means "To Begin To Live Upon Something Solid" and not an imagined living in and on Castles in the Sky.

We Live in Solid Rocks and Land.

Workch:
They’ve been convinced that ‘faith’ is a rational thing - evidence is secondary. Their ‘rational’ justifications for their beliefs are often based on fallacious reasoning or they are simply unwilling to admit that beliefs they’ve held for most of their lives are wrong.

These are the Fakes who are actually pagans practicing Witchcrafting but who have deceived you to be God Lovers but they do not have any business with God!

Workch:
Any evidence for any specific god would not only be incredibly compelling to atheists, it would also be incredibly compelling to theists from all other religions. This is not to say that I would accept an argumentum ad populum as a reasonable cause to change my own beliefs, but it would be a start...

Do your people not oppose that water is wet?

We can only go as far as possible in proving anything for if you refuse to accept proof, there is nothing anyone can do here.

So I observed that you say this as a consequence of your battles with others who think that they Love God but remember with me, none of your beliefs ever validly stand, for you always fall silent before me or YOU CHANGE POSTS WHICH IS STILL A PROOF THAT YOU HAVE NO VALID COUNTER TO GIVE!

SonofIssachar:
...Don’t ever stop doing good, even if it’s not appreciated at that time. God does the same thing! He wants you and me to continue to show goodness to others. It will always come back to you multiplied.

Story tellers must make their stories sweet and hot. Sometimes too hot that it becomes a Lie, for normal people, including the infirmed, are normally appreciative of the receipt of a good thing and they clearly express it.

And it is known that it is only evil people who refuse to acknowledge the receipt of good from persons.

So this story deceives and misleads for The Truths are out there and we have seen them.

It is not normal for a family to bake bread everyday nor for a person, even a hunchback, to chant publicly.

There are many stories which are True which can be given.

AYNL:
LORD HELP US

God has already helped us. When would you help you?

Enyimbamercedes:
It was a really silly idea; thinking he could phase out the cabs at the time for these "London" taxis!

He didnt figure that in the UK, these were a part of a robust transportation system that had many travel options; trains, trams, buses, underground, cycling, taxis and even walking. In Nigeria , we had only rickety buses which had been banned from the city and Kabu kabu which carried 2 in front and 3 at the back. He introduced the big mass transit buses to replace the rickety buses and made the mistake of thinking these could replace the cabs. Wrong thinking! The hire purchase cost was high and these were just not practical especially for those who traveled 'along'.

Anyway he realised this and scrapped them for the 307 wagons which also failed and now we have our cabu cabu back on the streets constituting a huge nuisance

Same for those green Hyundai buses.

MrBrownJay1:
go tell that to your bastard evil god!

Insanity And Madness Always Falls On Any Man, Whom God Has REJECTED. Thats Why And When They Start To Speak Like Satan, INSANELY SULKINGLY CALLING THE GOOD, EVIL.

MrBrownJay1:
donkeys like yourself only write rubbish on NL and focus on your own deluded BS...so if a muslim kills a demon, this is your god's work?! if an atheist kills a demon, you credit it to your bastard god who couldnt do shiit ?! BWAAAAAAH!

insanity plus mumu plus illiteracy plus blindness packed into one person DemonStupidBrown is incapable of reading! No Wonder your Mad Responses! Now I understand, why you are VERY FOOLISH

You can return to your sulking ..

Satan's Pastor!

Snitch24:
U have just spoken my mind
Let him tell them to send him transport money

They will send moto (Arrest) to carry her.

See, Another Abel Murdered by the Sons of Satan and Eve!

MrBrownJay1:
so the only thing a demon's got to do is do the right thing for a moment, and you brainless sheep would follow him?!??!
really?!?!?

You would act as if you did not see Justice Been Delivered and Served in yesterday's news.

See Today's Case Another Delivery of Just is!

Re: Man Forces Paedo Who Abused His Daughter To Dig His Grave, Before Killing Him by illicit(m): 6:47am
Re: Man Forces Paedo Who Abused His Daughter To Dig His Grave, Before Killing Him

illicit:
Free the father....

Or

Humanoid01:
Badass father.

I can't imagine how much pain he must be going through right now. I can't justify murder, but the other guy probably deserved that fate.

Now he has given one toxic misandrist on this forum something to feed on.

donbachi:
Nice one

And I love this judgement

xpressionx:
Good.
You can't cause him pain twice

daddytime:
Way to go...
Perfect justice served.
I would have buried him alive...

Death to all paedos

Only Satans and Demons like you Hate Just is. Only you evil people desire and pray that there should be nothing like "just is".

They are the only ones who want to harm or kill other persons but desire that they be not harmed in return.

Evil beasts.

MrBrownJay1:
if you have nothing intelligent to say, just be quiet instead of writing ARRANT GIBBERISH NONSENSE online.
again, KILLING IS KILLING of any human being. i dont care if you kill a mosquito a dog or a cow, thats a different subject entirely. YOU DEVIL WORSHIPPER

See Another Delivery of Just is!

Re: Man Forces Paedo Who Abused His Daughter To Dig His Grave, Before Killing Him by illicit(m): 6:47am
Re: Man Forces Paedo Who Abused His Daughter To Dig His Grave, Before Killing Him

illicit:
Free the father....

Or

Humanoid01:
Badass father.

I can't imagine how much pain he must be going through right now. I can't justify murder, but the other guy probably deserved that fate.

Now he has given one toxic misandrist on this forum something to feed on.

donbachi:
Nice one

And I love this judgement

xpressionx:
Good.
You can't cause him pain twice

daddytime:
Way to go...
Perfect justice served.
I would have buried him alive...

Death to all paedos

Only Satans and Demons like you Hate Just is. Only you evil people desire and pray that there should be nothing like "just is".

MrBrownJay1:
so the only thing a demon's got to do is do the right thing for a moment, and you brainless sheep would follow him?!??!
really?!?!?

I did not insult or ridicule you today but you have begun the insult, exactly as demons do.

As proven by yourself, Demons do not and cannot do Right and Good things, even for a moment.

However, every one including demon you normally follows and pursue The Good else you would not have followed school, work or obey Laws.

MrBrownJay1:
you agian...-.
A) the blind/brainless follow anyone with a good BS story...

True! Even those who see do the same too.

MrBrownJay1:
B) how do you actually know which ones are the fraudsters in robe and which one are the (supposed) ones appointed by your god?! do they have a signed document from your god confirming that they are the "ONE"?! do they have a members only card to show? how do you brainwashed sheep know who is who?!

Simple! THEY NEVER DO A WRONG/BAD THING WHICH ANY REASONABLE PERSON WILL CONDEMN.

lilvicky68:
In as much we try our best to be free from sin..
We still sin..
Without sin there wouldn't be forgiveness..

Forgiveness is a Gift that is earned and not a Right to be received.

MrBrownJay1:
jailing pastors wouldnt change the brainwashed donkey that follow them....

here below is a clue:

First, The blind follow those with sight.

Secondly, God's Appointed Pastors are provided for by God Himself, so they do not take from people BUT THEY GIVE TO THEM.

Those whom you describe are the touts and yahoo-yahoo whom you meet in front of Legitimate Offices.

PediakAuthor:
Same song also said wait till the end of the game before you start counting your money,

Yep so that they don't kill me in the pain of their loss.

And you can't kill me in this loss!

PediakAuthor:
you've already counted yours...

This was where I took the advice of
"You gat to know when to hoid up.
Know when to fold up.
Know when to walk away.
And no when to run."

PediakAuthor:
That's the end of the game since you've already seen it as a Checkmate. Cheers...

However, your answer says a lot about personalities, I'd wanted to check something, which I've seen!! & I think I'm okay now!!
Bye!!

I know!

But I don't mind more games if you don't mind I look forward to losing for as the song "The Gambler" said "Every hand's a Winner and Every hand's a loser"!

EXCEPT GODS HANDS!

He wins all the Time and He Must Win, when He wants to Win!

MrBrownJay1:
if you have nothing intelligent to say, just be quiet instead of writing ARRANT GIBBERISH NONSENSE online.
again, KILLING IS KILLING of any human being. i dont care if you kill a mosquito a dog or a cow, thats a different subject entirely. YOU DEVIL WORSHIPPER

Evil people like you squirm when judgements and Justice Falls on your kind.

Re: Joshua Usulor Jailed For Killing Feyisayo Obot In Lagos Hotel Room by Globalhustler(m): 12:10pm

Even an anti Christian like you came to the same Judgement.

AntiChristian:


28 years only for murder? This system is just wasting our funds feeding more prisoners!

He ought to be killed ASAP if found guilty!

Others

SimplyFacts:
Which kind judgment be this? It should have been a death sentence or life imprisonment. Money might have changed hands. The bereaved family should make an appeal

Or

Globalhustler:
He deserves more, make them help me add 10 years, making 38. 38 is perfect

Antoeni:
Just 28years
E nor reach ooo
37years is perfect

Flamees:
Good Judgement gini
He should be Imprisoned for Life
The Judge in charge of this Case is as Evil as This Man

Your fellow Barrister is Killed and All you could do is Just give the Man 28years
You should have increased it to 70 years

Just is Delivered
In a Prison called hell or lake of Fire!

PediakAuthor:
Exactly!!! That's the point...
You got the point right... your last paragraph says it all;
"And so I see everything in this world in chess pieces or the game itself, even this discussion."
Chess explains everything about humanity.
It's good to know that you are a Chess player, a great one for that matter... so here's my Move...

Few weeks ago, I went for an interview, along the line, I told the interviewer that I have a little knowledge about Chess, then he asked me just a single & simple question, which I will like to ask you also... here's it;
"In Chess;
Who's the most powerful?
The King or the Queen?
If King, why? If Queen, why?

Your move

I remember pondering on this question and my Answer is ...

1) Powerful in terms of damage to enemies, then, it is the The Queen.

2) Powerful in terms of loss and defeat, then it's the King!

This looks like a checkmate, mate!

petra1:
touch not the annointed

Workers of iniquity and Doers of evil are not covered by This Law.