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shadeyinka:
Evangelist for satan at work!

22jumpstreet:
This is important and relevant because... ??

22jumpstreet:
...The fact is that everything we think we know about Jesus, like this romantic picture of the bearded savior, is a creation of the human imagination. Actually there is barely a shred of evidence for the existence of an historical Jesus and this dissolves on closer inspection. Paul, the earliest Christian source, shows no knowledge of an historical man, only a mystical Christ. The gospels have been thoroughly discredited as eyewitness reports. Other bits of traditional evidence, such as references to Jesus by the Jewish historian Josephus, have been shown to be later forgeries. If solid evidence had existed, there would have been no need to have created such fabrications.....

shadeyinka:
No wonder that everywhere man governs, people groan with dissatisfaction!

Who told you that you are God's child?

HardMirror:
If Man be God, amputees for no worry. Man wey no get power reach god sef dey try all him best to make things that would make life easier for amputees. Man made crutches, man made artificial limbs, man made cars that amputees can drive. Man is trying his best to give those handicapped a chance to live normal lives.

HardMirror:
The all powerful god can make the world better if it/she/he wanted to, afterall, it/she/he is all knowing and therefore should know how to make the world better if truly it/she/he claims to love us so much, and it/she/he has the power to if it/she/he really wanted to.
So if things are so messed up as they are today, what should we learn from that? God does not exist.
Think about it and contribute

Thank you

Martinez39s:
One of favourite nairaland atheist is back. I have always loved reading your topic.

If humans were as powerful, all-loving and all-knowing as the Gods of abrahamic religions are purported to be, HIV, ALS, cancer, cogenital deformities and other forms of incurable diseases and deplorable conditions would not exist. No one would starve to death. Coronavirus would not shut down economies. Imagine a tiny virus shutting down the holy places and centres of worship of a supposed all-powerful God and He does nothing. In typical fashion, He sits back with folded arms ready to take the credit meant for scientists if vaccines and cures are invented.

HardMirror:
If Man be God, he would never be able to send people he claims to love to hell for eternity.

HardMirror:
Have you ever seen a father put his children on fire for telling lies and to make it worse would never forgive them?

HardMirror:
If Man be God, he won’t allow pedophiles rape little children.Abi have you ever seen people standing by folding their arms and watching a child of 4 years being raped and doing nothing to stop the act?

HardMirror:
God is ever present and he witnesses every single rape that takes place worldwide every day and does nothing.

HardMirror:
If Man be God, he go dey shame for promises he makes but does not keep. Ask and it shall be given, god no gree answer people wey dey ask. This is just one in many promises god does shamelessly does not follow through with.
If Man be God, people no go dey hungry. He claims he feed the birds of the air and fishes of the see, he claims that no child would ask a father for egg and be given a scorpion. If you are hungry and you are waiting for god to provide for you, na there you go die. In the end it Is human beings that would still help the needy not god.

MadeINchenzen2:
Why is sin recorded as a misdeed scripturally against God rather than against the sinner.

MadeINchenzen2:
I think God has no need for our righteousness. You are righteous for yourselves. If u plant an evil seed u will harvest a bounty of doom. You do not choose to do the right thing because u think it will please God. NO !!!

MadeINchenzen2:
If a person commits an act of fornication or adultery they sin against themselves rather than against God. Because they get consequences for that action.

Dranoid:
If anger dwells in the heart of fools and God is angry (at the wicked), then that means God is....

Isn't this contradictory?

22jumpstreet:
Why ??

For all three illustrations.

Yadid:
How far does God loves us?

kingxsamz:
Lol, who's scared?
Me or you?

22jumpstreet:
Why do you have to be scared of your creator.

22jumpstreet:
I have never seen a Dell computer scared of Michael Dell..or iPhone scared of Steve Jobs...

22jumpstreet:
It's like one iPhone telling another iPhone that Steve Jobs s going to destroy them because they refuse to worship Mr Joseph brown ?
Is that even possible?

kingxsamz:
Yeah, that's what dead men said thousands of years ago to put people like you in mental slavery.
Funny how it still works perfectly even with all the technology and information you have.
I'm sure those people would have called us gods if they knew what kind technology we have in these times.

kingxsamz:
Yeah, that's what dead men said thousands of years ago to put people like you in mental slavery.
Funny how it still works perfectly even with all the technology and information you have.
I'm sure those people would have called us gods if they knew what kind technology we have in these times.

kingxsamz:
Lol, there's nothing sensible about being scared because of a book written by men thousands of years ago. It's like being scared that Einstein will come back to haunt the living because someone said so.

22jumpstreet:
Those people wrote works that actually bears their names. Please can you provide for us "the gospel of jesus". That will definitely silence all critics...

LeastServant:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Here are 8 ways to be acknowledge as a true Child Of God.

1) By receiving Jesus Christ into our life (hope), receiving the Holy Ghost (Righteousness) and seeking above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.


2) By worshipping the Father in spirit and in truth. For the Father seeketh such to worship Him


3) By abiding in Christ, keeping His doctrines and words.


4) By giving thanks, praise and glorifying God.


5) By bearing fruits, preaching the gospel and saving lost souls.

6) By loving peace, mercy, humility and forgiveness.


7) By doing things that pleases God.


8 By loving one another.

Amen!

kingxsamz:
Lol, at least he's not living in fear or being threatened that he'd be punished and tortured forever if he doesn't believe in a Jewish man who walks on water and flies into space.

kingxsamz:
Awwn, look at you getting all emotional.
Don't take it too seriously. Since you're sure of your beliefs, what is said about it shouldn't hurt you nw. it's like getting angry when flat earthers say the earth is flat, like, does it matter? Don't get worked up. Sorry.

Pelecius:
I am happy for your concern and really appreciate it.
We had a long discussion one time like that (you actually warned earlier too), and I got to understand some of his debating techniques.
I won't dabble into any unnecessary argument since I'm familiar with him and can predict the outcome

OneMarvee:
After having a lengthy biblical discussion with a friend of mine about Death, Heaven and Hell, my beliefs were shaken a bit. All my life, I always believed that when a person dies, judgement follows immediately and they either go to Heaven or Hell. I have watched several gospel movies and YouTube videos that stressed this same fact but alas, it is not quite what it is.
My friend, who is a solid Christian, goes to church, prays often, reads the bible, pay tithe but does not believe in the existence of Heaven and Hell as an afterlife destination, he says " if at all, God resides in heaven, and the Devil resides in Hell, that's all. When we die, we seize to exist, we know nothing, we do not even recognize that we are dead. "

LordReed:
Then agree that the change spoken about is the change of mind which does not include a change of Being.

shadeyinka:
Of course.
They want God to be boxable and to be put in a laboratory test tube for research purposes.
If they can do this, then they will have their final proof that God isn't God

BeLookingIDIOT:
While I believe Jesus likely existed,it's certainly not the mythological figure as projected by xtians,and those non-xtian references to him are an interpolation by later xtains...

Workch:
many people are not really bothered about the existence of Plato or Socrates because they don’t play much significance in indoctrination of people and they have not played roles in making unverifiable claims like that of Jesus.

Jesus claimed to walk on water dude and was born by a virgin, you need serious evidence to verify such miraculous claims?

shadeyinka:
Childish train of thoughts!

How did evidence of existence turn to the issue of worship!?

Workch:
I don’t see anyone calling Plato, Archimede and Socrates gods. No one had said these guys died for everyone and if we don’t serve them, we go to hell. That’s a significant difference

Workch:
As far as we know, there is no verifiable evidence that Jesus ever walked on earth.

Maybe I am wrong, can anyone provide us with evidence outside of the Christian texts that Jesus ever existed?

LordReed:
Good, then also agree that change spoken about is the god changing his mind and not his being or attributes.

LordReed:
All these changes you highlight are all from the mind even a personality change is from the mind.