₦airaland Forum

aribisala0:
We bomb and behead ourselves in our offices and communities to implement ideas? Which office is that?

Ah I see, you are too young and inexperienced. So you have never gone to resident meetings and you are not aware of office fights and struggles, neither do you watch the news to see how your politicians throw blows, wiping each other with chairs over an idea.

I say, this with respect, the questions you asked are too big for you, which is why as you confessed, you had difficulty in comprehending my answer.

aribisala0:
...So why don't we cooperate with Boko Haram and do what they want?

When a lecturer asks you to give him your girlfriend, would you obey?

aribisala0:
I do not know if there is God . I have not said there is no God.

This is clearly contradictory. Those 2 statements are incompatible and cancel out each other exactly as "+1-1" is still Zero (0).

aribisala0:
So even if there is God

Now because your zeroness, you have no stand at all. You are now a ghost and unstable.

And it is vain arguing with ghosts.

aribisala0:
So even if there is God why should I subscribe to any particular franchise or anyone's stories about God.

That is your decision which is no different from you choosing which university you wish to attend or which job you wish to get or which car you wish to obtain.

Or you can choose not go to the university, get a job, marry a wife or obtain a car.

You were obviously not taught that living in this world is about choosing or refraining to choose, ALWAYS!

aribisala0:
With God my position is we frst need to establish that. The fact that there are stories is not proof enough...

See, now you have SHIFTED POST TO "NOT PROOF ENOUGH OF GOD but did you not clearly earlier say "I have not said there is no God"?

Nothing can be established on an instability.

aribisala0:
People build houses/walls to protect the contents human or otherwise from weather and several other things

We must be careful that the house does not change into a self constructed prison

The same is true for doctrines and ideologies

Creations are always in prisons. But which prison is and will be good for them?

That is the decision they have to make.

But do these creations know the prison that they first live in and have not yet changed? Most often, No.

Like you, they did not know that they are in prison, so naturally they would not be thinking of changing it

aribisala0:
I need a translation of this

Wow, you have a reading, remembering and comprehension problem.

For you raised many issues in your post and the essence of my breaking your post is for you to see that I am addressing each of those issues YOU RAISED.

So, you have the burden of reading each and every one them AFTER ALL YOU WERE THE ONE WHO GAVE US THE FIRST BURDEN OF READING ALL THE ISSUES YOU RAISED.

So it is your turn now to read our reply.

And your response here also shows that you are a very lazy person who does NOT LIKE TO KNOW (meanwhile, you implied that you desired to know, but now, it appears that you are lying) neither do you like to work.

Well, it is your food and you can cook it in any manner you so choose, but it is you who shall still eat it.

aribisala0:
...I Inevitably when they meet another person with a different story there is a clash , conflict and killing.

Still the same way we clash in the office and in our Communities over the implementation of an idea.

aribisala0:
Many of these stories seek to establish a FRANCHISE.

Which is the first proof of God. No one is seeking to establish you, whether rightly or wrong fully, anywhere, if they never knew you.

But because all nations have Truly had a contact with God, they therefore are able to talk about Him.

But the problem is and will be, Do they Rightly and Truly Speak and Establish Him?

aribisala0:
We now have new and imported stories from outside Africa that tell us to disregard and delete all our stories from thousands of stories
and to upload foreign stories into our Mind as direct from God.

The same way they imported their cars and phones and now Africans no longer walk from one village to another.

Like a chain saw vs cutlass, a much better product will always render the earlier product inferior.

aribisala0:
Inevitably the question arises for thinkers. Why do these foreign stories have no provision for black Africans for thousands of years or is there another God for Black Africans?

First, I do not think this question is connected to your main question in this thread.

Secondly, it is their own story, therefore if black Africa is not relevant to the story, then they would not be there.

It is not reasonable to expect that when I am talking about my family, my neighbours and colleagues would be included.

aribisala0:
I do not know.
I cannot say there is
I cannot say there is not
I just simply DO NOT KNOW

And there are some questions which you failed to ask, which is

1)DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW?

2) WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE GOD OVER YOU, IF YOU HAD BEEN GIVEN THE OPTION?

aribisala0:
There are many "GOD STORIES" from all over the world

This is even the first proof God for He is All Over The World exactly as He Should Be.

Whereas, you who is even here, you have your story limited only to those areas your presence is known and felt.

aribisala0:
What many people believe is simply based on

WHERE THEY WERE BORN AND WHAT THEY WERE TOLD

There is another small group of people who believe because they have Truly Tested and Tasted and Seen, for themselves that God is indeed True.

Others love to hang on to their beliefs MOSTLY BECAUSE TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH OF GOD IS VERY VERY FEARFUL, because they do know that they are the type of people whom God will hate and therefore punish because of the many many evils they have done and they shall do.

So they have to take up any means of 'hiding' themselves from God so that they continue, with some level of peace, to be the evils that they are and they like to be and they want to be

MadeINchenzen2:
u dont have to lie bro... u need help

What do I have to gain for lying to you?

Am I begging you to Follow Christ?

You people's lamentations only makes us Fear The Lord even more and with great thanks and joy, we appreciate what He has done and is doing for us.

So of course this is always an opportunity for us to Openly Declare the Sure Truth of The Lord and Raise His Name.

MadeINchenzen2:
what you fail to understand is that armageddon has started in your country already and very soon you'll be gnashing your teeth for not joining your family abroad.

U are treated much worse than an infidel and a slave in your own country of birth... u are treated much worse than a second class citizen who practically provides everything for himself... barely surviving on one square meal per day yet u label fortunate Nigerian emigrants who chooses to become candidates of paradise on earth... leaving u behind to wallow in the abyss darkness called Nigeria.

let me patronize you even though I would have said your supposed Armageddon began since 2015 or thereabout, but you people were so dead that you did not feel it's effects until these past 2 years.

But for me and my household, we are fatter than we have ever been exactly as the God Said "the righteous are kept safe from all plagues and evil"

So without going into details my family is even shocked that I am faring much better than they who are abroad, and thus, they have altogether stopped pressing me to relocate.

triplechoice:
It is either you don't know your religion or you trying to rationalise the inconsistency in it with your reply.

Christianity tells us that only Jesus can save . Nothing more and nothing less. The individual cannot do it alone. In fact it is impossible.

Now, you have changed the argument from people being good and doing the good to the saving of evil people from their evil, which is not the issue we are treating now.

So the inconsistency is your own creation.

triplechoice:
But if you now say that it depends on the individual to change, then you imply no one needs Jesus to change.

I do not imply that for it is Still the Same Jesus Who is telling us to Change, and the change is what man is going to do for himself and by himself, if in deed, he truly wants to change.

triplechoice:
Then what would be the point of preachers going about telling people to give their lives to Christ so that with the coming of the holy spirit, the old ways suddenly pass away and everything becomes new?

Do you see it now?

Are preachers Christ Like? No, they are not, else, they would have been preaching AND DOING what Christ had taught them TO DO.

1Sharon:
I thought Christians are supposed to have the holy spirit, so why are they doing things the average human does? Yeye.

Exactly as many people speak American and British English with phoñéi and all but are not, so also many Claim to be Christ Followers but are not.

Divoc19:
I have had this same personal beef with Christian religion for years now.

It is not Christianity who gave you your problem but a man or group of men.

And you are a man like them (even if you have what we call a vagina, you are still a man) so therefore you can deal with them.

heniford2:
God doesn't exit

That is exactly what the comb and sharpener which fell to the bottom of your wardrobe says about you.

"You do not exist either!'

MadeINchenzen2:
Are the chinese any different or the Americans or the british? Compare their country with urs

U would happily spend your fortunes up to the last penny to become a citizen of these foreign countries

since the 80s and till tomorrow I could always go and be a citizen of any of those your celebrated countries. 90% of my family are there and they have been compelling me to join them for years, but I refused.

Why? I know better.

They are the Children of Rebellion that the Bible spoke of and therefore, I knew that they are Cursed of God.

And in God's Goodness that because they shall have an Eternal life of Damnation, He gave them them His Hidden Treasures which they are using to deceive and kill the souls of you all.

Which is also why you see the Plagues which is clearly stated in the Bible falling on them, yet people are still foolish to think of going there.

Anyway, they are the same, one to another.

So, no, I am really enjoying The Unending Blessings of The Lord here in Nigeria and I am Very Much Satisfied, eating what I like, going where I like and very much enjoying my work exactly as as The Lord Promised shall be the portion of such who keep His Commandments and Statutes and Precepts and Judgements!

Righteousness2:
The things of GOD is Foolishness to them that Perish.

The reason you have a Country that is spared from the Wrath testing the Mic all over the nations today is because of the " Few righteous ones here who are standing in the Gap.

The reason the country have not be swallowed up with Grave Disatrous Disaters despite the evil here is the few Holy ones Standing in the GAP.

Very soon, the People standing in the GAP will be taken away so will understand events better and appreciate GOD.

Yep!

As you can see they have started attacking Nigeria and Nigerians through their movies, Grammy awards, "international recognition" and their usual attack weapons.

MadeINchenzen2:
If God Answers Prayers, Why Is Nigeria This Bad In 2021 Despite All The Prayers?..

Did you not also hear and read that the prayers of sinners are an annoyance and abomination to God?

So how can He ever listen to the prayers of Sin Filled Nigerians?

triplechoice:
..Christianity does not have what it takes to change anyone into a better person.

And this is the error, Christianity is not a medicine that you take to help you to change.

IT IS THE CHANGER, WHO WANTS TO CHANGE, WHO MUST CHANGE HIMSELF, IF HE WANTS TO.

God's Instructions and Counsels is ONLY ADVICING YOU TO CHANGE and Become God Like or Christ-like (Christian) if you do not want to have an horrible living and an even more greater than horrible dying/eternal living in constant unending dying.

Which is why you rightly said "the individual should already have the capacity to love."

Do individuals not already have that ability and capacity? They do.

Do they want to exercise that ability and capacity? Their fruits and end products have already answered this question, which is the basis of this thread.

Dayotheeone:
Your topic is "Christianity is a religion of hate" then in your article you talk about things Christians and the average human does
Alaye change your title or delete your post
Give ideological arguments and biblical proofs not this shallow example you call concrete proof, which religion doesn't do what you've mentioned?
This is just human nature and not a Christianity thing so abeg sit this one out

You have said the word which he is complaining about "This is just human nature".

And the Dictates of Christianity is a call for us to be greater and higher than this so called "human nature".

Which is why my answer to him is that people really do not want to discard and remove from themselves this rubbish so called "human nature", therefore, there are Truly No Christians.

For the call to Christianity is the Call to be Like Christ or Christ Like and God Like and not "A remain in the so called human nature" which is what he is complaining about.

HardMirror:
NOTE: IF ANYTHING I AM SAYING HERE IS A LIE, KINDLY POINT IT OUT TO ME AND I WOULD APOLOGIZE.

If there is to be a singular definition for the Christian religion, Christians would want it to be the word LOVE
So much so that Jesus summed the whole faith to mean to Love God and your Fellow man with ALL YOUR HEART.
BUT how true is it that this religion is a religion of love. do we even see it?

It is very True.

But I will put it sharply, people Love wickedness and evil, therefore, they can not Listen or Obey and Carry Out the Tenets and Laws of Christ which is ABSOLUTELY ANTI-EVIL AND ANTI-WICKEDNESS.

Therefore, you do not easily and often see or run into a Christ Follower for as kingsxamz will tell you 80% of the world's population love being evil and doing evil, therefore only a megre 5% of the world's population are Christians, by kingsxamz calculation.

My own calculation would say only 1% exactly as we find that it was only Noah and Enoch his great grandfather who was a Christian in his time, same for Enoch. Same for Abimelech and Abraham. Isaac, Jacob. Same for Moses etc.

HardMirror:
you are so versed at saying rubbish. who told you you are even a christian to start with. none of your posts here show you even belong to a civil group talkless of being a christian, yet you want to be the class captain pointing out strangers.

hahaha! You are only lamenting here because you have checked me out and seen that you and many others here are not able to validly counter me when I take a stand against any matter.

It is The Law "There is No Valid Argument Against The Truth!

And there is never any and you already know that it is proof of Falling when you attack the man (Ad hominem) rather than the argument. Miserable Sore Loser!!

OtemAtum:
Christians know how to point accusing fingers. I'm not surprised though.

When strangers and unknown persons enter your house, office or community, you always point them out and declare to all that there are strangers in the midst thereof.

MrBrownJay1:
the bible is very clear on this fact...sadly, these conmen in robes dont want people to "help thy neighbor", and instead want people to ONLY help them/their church by giving tithes (they need to buy mansions, big motor and private jets for themselves na!!)

Matthew 22:37-39
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

ALL THESE BRAINWASHED SHEEPS READING THEIR HOLY BOOK UPSIDE DOWN!

They are not exactly brainwashed rather they are a collection of evil people who think that if they obey some parts of God's Laws, they would not be thrown into the fire.

mariahAngel:
Entitlement mentality is your problem!

People have the right to decide what to do with (or who to give) their money.

Op, hustle ooo!!!

This is The Law of God, The poor are entitled to have a portion of your "Goodness" (but you people always and only think in terms of money).

And it is their Right.

It is indeed a sin if you could have aided and helped the poor but you refused to do so.

Every True Christian knows that he is to Obey both Laws,

1) Respect The Lord and Love Him by paying your tithes and offerings and

2) Cater to the poor and needy without delay.

OtemAtum:
Pick a Christian at random and you will see the fear of death written all over that one.

You are still wrongly referring to those who are exactly like you and are not Truly Christ Followers, as "Christian".

True Christians are exactly like Christ and the only Fear they have is the Fear of God.

And since God is our friend and very Close to us, we have nothing to fear and there's nothing to fear.

jaephoenix:
This is truly hilarious. So no christian had covid? Or no Christian has had accidents?
Looks like Christians hold the key to lies

It is not right to put impute what was not stated.

And since you have raised the fear of death, now I tell you this, "EVERY CHRISTIAN, THAT IS THE TRUE CHRIST FOLLOWER, IS LOOKING FORWARD TO DYING FOR IT IS VERY VERY GOOD THING FOR US, FOR WE KNOW IT IS BETTER THAN THIS RUBBISH FILLED EVIL WORLD.

DEATH IS OUR DOOR TO A BETTER LIVING IN A BETTER WORLD WE WOULD BE ENTERING INTO.

SO DEATH FROM DISEASE OR ACCIDENT OR ANYTHING IS NOT ADVERSE TO US!

WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE NONE OF THE DISCIPLES INCLUDING PAUL AFRAID OF IT.

DEATH IS A BAD THING TO ONLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE LIFE AND WHO WOULD NOT BE HAVING LIFE!

HardMirror:
are you a christian? is god living inside you?
show me one thing that makes you special than other people of other faith or of no faith?

Many Supposed Christian movies are exactly as your former Non-Knowing self. They do not know nor Understand the Way of The Lord.

"show me one thing that makes you special than other people"

I would show you more than one

1) Evil Never ever visits us or touches us at all.

2) Goodnesses and Favours wait for us or take hold of us continually.

3) Our Work ALWAYS prospers.

4) We are Feared by All

5) We never ever get into trouble.

6) We are completely immune and unaffected by plagues, hunger and evil.

Exactly as God Said and just to mention a few.

Bishopkingsley:
You can lie to yourself
But the scriptures can not be broken
God said the heart of all men is evil continually

And he provides a solution
So lie to yourself that your heart do not carry hate, tribalism, anger, lust, etc

Continue to lie at the end of the day you will cry to God to help you

As all men must do


List of sins in heart

Needing to Always to claim holiness
Finding Fault with Others
Withholding Good from Others
Seeing Others As Competition
Practicing Partiality
Boasting in Yourself
Indulging in Questionable Activities
Seeing Others As Competition

There are over one billion sins the heart can commit

Not mine!

As I said earlier, the Proof of Keeping The Laws of God is Blessings, Favours and Continuous Goodness!

And I have these things!

Bishopkingsley:
You are moving in a circle


'Yet I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated,

I am not moving in any circle, it is you who is looking for a place to stand by changing posts again and again because I elected to respond to you despite your change of posts.

Well, this is my last response on this issue.

Bishopkingsley:
So what did Esau do that God hated him before he was born

For you to ask this clearly proves how you do not pay very close attention to what you read in the Bible, therefore you missed the part where Esau was exactly like Lamech in Genesis 4, son if evil and disobedience, who had 2 wives in Breach of The Law of God on Marriage which is "He made them male and female" and not male and females.

Secondly, when he saw that the daughters of Canaan pleased not his father Isaac, According to the Commandment of Abraham that none of his children should take a wife from the daughters of Canaan, (which I know that from his walk with God, Abraham knew that God did not like them).

Esau broke that Law and married the daughters of Canaan.

HardMirror:
still does not prove god.

Your inability to furnish any counter, is proof enough. So we al know that you you speak empty here.

HardMirror:
people do evil and get away with it, people do good and get nothing or evil in return. people suffer consequences for their actions when the actions lead to events connected to their future. how does this prove god? and which god cos karma is even from hinduism

First Hinduism is simply acknowledging The Law of God.

Secondly, the mere fact that you do not always see evil being delivered to evil person does not mean that it is not delivered.

For exactly as it happened to you, your neighbour and those you have seen, so also is it delivered to them also.

And in fact if you were looking and close to them, surely you would have seen the delivery thereof!

Bishopkingsley:
NO ONE HAD A RIGHT OR EVEN POWER TO DO YOU ANY WICKEDNESS AT ALL.

Yes and True but if and when you do evil, evil shall, will and must be delivered to you also, exactly as The Law Said!

Bishopkingsley:
So what sin did job do that
Wickedness came to him

We all know that Job was a Special Case in that evil came to him because God used Him to Satan that he (Satan) was a failure over Job! That is all.

HardMirror:
lol. you that knows, can you tell me how you got to know God's commands? at least if i dont even learn, someone else would learn from your sensible post and not be mislead by me. so please go ahead and tell us what god ever wrote

I have answered you already up where I said right from your childhood, you have seen that when you did evil and wickedness to a person, you got wickedness in return.

So also, when you did the good, you also got the good.

Also, you also saw that when you did not do any wrong or wicked thing, NO ONE HAD A RIGHT OR EVEN POWER TO DO YOU ANY WICKEDNESS AT ALL.

No man could ever had set these laws for these Laws are experienced all over the world exactly as The Bible had declared.

Bishopkingsley:
you keep going back to the wrong teaching you can not avoid sin you can not avoid evil
Because evil is already in every man's heart

So what you say don't make sense.

You choose not to avoid it but I have been doing it since I learnt it and I indeed living the promises of God wherein He said "if ye would Obey My Voice Indeed and Keep My Commandments and Statutes and Judgements, ye shall be Blessed in All of his way"

And indeed I am blessed in all of my ways, in my going out and in my coming in and in my lying down, exactly as promised.

So as I said earlier, you shall lie in the bed you have laid, i am lying on mine and it very very good for me.

HardMirror:
you mean man made rules? abi which rules have you ever seen god give (written or spoken)?

See how you show you knew nothing at beginning when you thought you were a Christ Follower such that you ask this foolish question?

It is exactly as you knew since you were a child that if you did any wicked thing to another, you are automatically qualified for a wickedness to be done to you.

HardMirror:
he did not waste his time or data, he spent them to put you right. "say something sensible", that is what he is saying

What a nullity!