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OkCornel:
So in all your 3 responses so far, no answers to how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 & 16-17 is a blessing.

Just emotional bleating up and down. I’m enjoying this circus show you’re putting up here.

Your mumu dey wear Agbada and Turban

You need to know more for you to decide whether I have answered you or not.

An Olodo Never knows! So go and know

The Toyota is quite light, so when you press am small, na run e go do dey deceive person say e be jet!

OkCornel:
And the most hilarious thing is someone implying Genesis 16 v 12 to imply Islam

How dense can one get?

Are all Ishmaelites Muslims? Are all Muslims Ishmaelites?

Critical thinking is really scarce in this religion section ooo.

Trying to Cover your Olodoness?

It's too late!. it already blew up!

You should have Shut Up and stayed silent rather than run up and down with the goal posts.

And when the flood lights fell on you, you should not have Lied, LyingCheatiyCurnnyel.

OkCornel:
Dtruthspeaker, if you cannot explain how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 & 16-17 is a blessing, then whatever your response on anything else is pointless.

Because it is abundantly clear to everyone you don’t know zilch on what you are talking about.

Demonstrate to us how Ishmael is cursed but Judah and Dan aren’t.

Case closed.

Cc Jesusjnr2020 & Kobojunkie

Olodo,
Go to school.
When you know.
You can come and Blow!

OkCornel:
Dtruthspeaker Dliespeaker thinks otherwise

This one who takes only the Parts of the Bible that he likes and throws the rest in his dustbin as Satan Witnesses (jw) do. on Monday, then on Sunday he would use it as a weapon against another person in that same matter.

But when it was used against him on Monday, he refused.

All of una dey the same side!

OkCornel:
Are you ready to explain how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 & 16-17 is a blessing?

If you can’t, shift!

Olodo, go to school,
Tell your teacher you are a Fool!

OkCornel:
Mr man, you can type long nonsense here.

But to explain how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse while Genesis 49 v 8-9 & 16-17 is a blessing is too heavy for your hand to type abi?

Ogbeni vamoose comot my front before you infect me with your ignorance.

hahaha olodo don see say ihn be Olodo.

Olodo, go to school,
Tell your teacher you are a Fool!

OkCornel:
See ignorance wey wear Agbada and Fila. Bros don japa. Dude is cornered, e gats japa…

Too many clowns in this section

No person go dey continue to dey argue with person wey no know many things. Your emptiness too much. Go fill up!

compton11:
so Abraham was a fornicator according to u

All men sin and are guilty of sin!

OkCornel:
Again where is this vengeance is mine handed down as a law to the Israelites because Deuteronomy 32 which was referenced earlier has no law in it when the whole chapter is read in context.

So unlettered man, can you show us where God gave this law while at the same time instructed a hand for a hand and a tooth for a tooth.

This your ignorance wear Agbada sha.

Your empty vessel is a grating screach, such that you are worthy to be called a Fool.

Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy are the Major books of Law and everyone knows that, but OCornel, "Never Knows"

The opening statement of Deuteronomy 32 already Answers You, But Blind OCornel would not see it.

Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.

2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

3 Because I will publish the name of the Lord: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.

4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment

But OCornel Never Knows, Never Sees and Never Hears.

Done!

OkCornel:
Please explain to everyone on this thread how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 and 16-17 is a blessing

No I would not! You are supposed to have learnt long before today the difference between a Blessing and Curse.

Go, learn the Truth of it (hopefully, since I see you love Lies) for yourself!

It is Only The Truth that is Solidly Established, All Lies like a pratting fool must Fall!

I'm Out!

OkCornel:
Lol, someone claimed there is a law called "vengeance is mine says the Lord" in that chapter.

I just tire for the clowns on this forum

Above all your "I do not knows" (and I wonder if you shall ever know), take Jara!

Psalms 94:1
O LORD God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, show thyself.

Twice David Confessed The Law!

OkCornel:
Says the man who claims Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse

Says the man who does not know the difference between a Blessing and A Curse.

OkCornel:
Says the shameless liar who quotes me partially

Then turns around to claim I edited my post.

How shameless can these religious zealots get?

Seeking who shall join you in your Lies, go find your brothers.

OkCornel:
Then going by your logic, Jacob cursed his sons Judah and Dan as well as per Genesis 49;

Genesis 49 v 8-9;
8 “Judah, your brothers will praise you; your hand will be on the neck of your enemies; your father’s sons will bow down to you.
9 You are a lion’s cub, Judah; you return from the prey, my son. Like a lion he crouches and lies down, like a lioness—who dares to rouse him?

Genesis 49 v 16-17;
16 “Dan will provide justice for his people as one of the tribes of Israel.
17 Dan will be a snake by the roadside, a viper along the path that bites the horse’s heels so that its rider tumbles backward.


Dliespeaker is truly a confused soul devoid of understanding

You keep proving this over and again

You Obviously do not know the differences between A Blessing and A Curse. No Wonder! That explains a lot

OkCornel:
Dliespeaker...what a poor soul devoid of understanding

No Counter Again!

Flawless Victory

OkCornel:
Abeg, where did God curse Ishmael?

Don't you understand basic english?

Bringing in Islam to argue your point only exposes more of your illiteracy.

Read my question slowly and understand. WHERE DID GOD CURSE ISHMAEL?

Because going by your logic in Genesis 16 v 12, if that is a curse...then maybe Jacob also cursed his sons Judah & Dan here as well;

Genesis 49 v 8-9;
8 “Judah, your brothers will praise you; [b]your hand will be on the neck of your enemies; your father’s sons will bow down to you.
9 You are a lion’s cub, Judah; you return from the prey, my son. Like a lion he crouches and lies down, like a lioness—who dares to rouse him?

Genesis 49 v 16-17;
16 “Dan[h] will provide justice for his people as one of the tribes of Israel.
17 Dan will be a snake by the roadside, a viper along the path that bites the horse’s heels so that its rider tumbles backward.


Biko Dliespeaker, biko...where was Ishmael cursed?

Going to and fro about the earth, seeking whom to devour? you are truly your father's son.

And even if a wall is put in front of you, you would not see it. But may be if you try re-ad-ing slo-wly, you may see that I said Gen-es-sis 16 (Sixteen) :12 (Verse 12).

OkCornel:
This unlettered dude has zero understanding of sarcasm sha... looking for all straws he can grab to stay afloat...

Are you ready to show us where Ishmael was cursed and was labelled the evil child?

We are still searching ooo

Jesusjnr2020 please come and help Dliespeaker search for where Ishmael was cursed, or labelled an evil child in the scriptures abeg

Do the blind ever see? and calling on your fellow blind man will improve thy seeing, reall?

Oh, ye blind children are very very funny to watch!

OkCornel:
According to the unlettered folk truespeak, or perhaps liespeak...Ishmael is the evil son and accursed... but what does the scripture state?

Genesis 17 v 19 -22;

19 Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him.
20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.
21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.”
22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.

Mr liespeak, can you show us where God cursed Ishmael, and where he was referred to as an evil son?

Cc: Jesusjnr2020

Unlike you God will Never Change His Word! So I was not talking about the blessing of Ishmael but the Curse of him

compton11:
nah

I need straightforward answer


Was Abraham a fornicator?

That is my straightest answer!

OkCornel:
That Genesis 17 v 20 was a curse to Ishmael

Please pass me that thing you're smoking abeg , I want to check something

A Liar shall Always be Caught in his Lying!

I said Genesis 16:12

OkCornel:
Re: Many Christians Only Know The Law Of Moses But Not That Of Christ by Dtruthspeaker: 2:04pm
OkCornel:

Show us where in the Scriptures Ishmael was an evil son and accursed by God?

Did you think Genesis 16:12 was a blessing? The Muslims have already proven it's effect.
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But LiarCheatCornel the Cunny-Cunny is now attempting to dash it to me! Ole, carry your Lie comot for here, CheatCornel!

Na you CheatCunny na ihn talk Genesis 17:20, no be me!

shogsman:
I'm trying not to call you names because I do not do well with insulting people but you're making it difficult with this foolery

I understand, but my answers should have told that I am a lawyer and you have just experienced the difficulty of trying to establish the Truth of an allegation especially where such allegations are uncommon.

There are many facts which make you fall, even before you begin your presentation.

compton11:
nigga answer the simple question

Was Abraham a fornicator?

Nigger, I have answered you!

shogsman:
To start with any nitwit with half a brain that does reason time to time knows the supernatural is just a tale we caution kids with.which was made ever son obvious by the total absence of any real evidence that supports this farce.lucky for me I was born into this traditions and have had early run in with your so called JuJu which puts me in a palatable place to opine this obvious assertion, I've had run ins with dozens of your herbalists,heck I even grew up with some,in my attempt to reach a conclusion I did what would shake people like you and scare you to death, but alas my assertion was confirmed.
It is fiction,if you're still asking me for proof after this piece I can only wonder what did you in this deep into this illusion

Too many "I's" and you are relying on "I".

This is a very bad way to present a case for there is no valid and reasonable way to test the Truth of your "I's" on this platform.

For you could be very well lying and in Truth you did not go to the places you said you went or did the things you said you did or even be who you claim to be or you could suffer some infirmity which prevents you from assessing information or properly interpreting certain information.

That is why you still can not validly make your case.

shogsman:
Did you just say I gave no proof of it, my good sir you can't possibly be this ignorant.
The absence of no proof is the ever so obvious PROOF.perhaps you should read everything again,this time slowly.

And you wonder why a court says there is no proof in a case.

Here is another Law, "A case is Proven in and on its own strength and not on the weakness of the defendants opposition"

That is the import of "He who alleges must prove!"

shogsman:
No I'm relying on common sense and intelligent reasoning as would any sensible human being unburdened by the lies of traditions the lot of you were born with.
At the end of the day it is visible to the blind and audible to the deaf,if there is no single evidence in history and the trillions of individual events that comes with it,IT DOES NOT EXIST MY GOOD SIR.

Go look up the word hearsay evidence and see if it does not capture the evidence you obtained from your visit to "tons of herbalists and traditionalists"

shogsman:
All those paragraphs wasted on a rather unintelligent rambling,perhaps I should have interpreted my focal point into another language, give me the proof of a supernatural existence not an endless incessant chatter sir.

Ever heard of The Law of Establishing a Case, "He who alleges must Prove?"

Surely you must know it for you were also using words like "hearsay, evidence etc"

Thus, you are the one who alleged that the Supernatural is a Fiction and you gave no proof of it.

your reversal of the burden of proof will not work.

OkCornel:
Mtcheew. show us where in the scripture Ishmael is accursed and the evil son. Wein concern me with muslims?

Islam came way long after the seed of Ishmael was established.

I have already answered you!

OkCornel:
Show us where in the Scriptures Ishmael was an evil son and accursed by God?

Did you think Genesis 16:12 was a blessing? The Muslims have already proven it's effect.

OkCornel:
Deal with it here.

Don't run away.

Open a thread!

OkCornel:
And how does this explain how the seed of the Serpent find its way back into the human race? ..

Is Ismael not an evil son (as they have proven even now) and Cursed?

OkCornel:
Deal with the Acts 15 issue here. You know that ends your argument once and for all.

Did the Mosaic Law apply to gentiles not resident in Israel too? Did they have to get circumcised, observe sabbath, tithe, abstain from certain foods etc... too?

And don't even attempt to muddle the Mosaic laws with the ones passed down to Noah and his sons (Genesis 9 v 3-7), or the law of Conscience in Romans 2 v 14-15 to pass across your point...

Patiently awaiting your response...

Open a thread!