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LordReed:
I did not mention only Solomon.

Oh. True!

God Completely Stopped talking to Abraham where we formerly saw God coming from time to time to speak with him. That did not happen again.

Judah did not take up a concubine.

David (The True Wisest man) was nearly destroyed by it, if not that indeed, he was the wisest man.

Karlovych:
See their true colors . Mr Christian

Always remember The Law "The evil you do unto another, shall be done unto you"

awitness41:
I modified the 3rd question to say "Using Bible Scripture only".
I wanted to be clear, that's all.
Thank you.

I believe you know that in the Bible the definition of sin is Off-Fence, (offence) Threatened-Pass (Tresspass), Transit Agression (Transgression).

Karlovych:
What about a certain woman that was supposed to be married off to a carpenter but she became someone's side chick that later lead to the birth of a magician, its in the Holy book

For this evil, evil shall love and marry you!

... as a battery to a phone and car, that certain woman only lives because that alleged Someone is her "Battery".

So no side chicking.

LordReed:
Was Abraham destroyed? What of Isaac and Jacob? Judah? David?

Change of post!

We are talking about "Solomon the so called wisest man".

WaffenSS:
And after surviving the so-called assault by brutally murdering him, she calmly packed her stuff, took his card, went to withdraw money, and didn't report either the assault or the murder to anyone. Look at her picture, she's all made up, looking well, and not a sign of distraught or panic about her demeanor.

Come on, Mr Lawyer.

Your argument hasn't got a leg to stand on.

He is not a lawyer, if not he would have known that self defence is almost not a defence.

LordReed:
Yeah sure that's why Solomon the so called wisest man had 700 of them. Abraham the friend of god had them. David a man after god's heart had them. Judah impregnates his own daughter in law and the child was supposedly an ancestor of Jesus.
You guys can know how to psych yourselves with rubbish.

And he was destroyed by them as Chidinma has done.

BeeBeeOoh:
Paul said something 2000-years ago and you are asking us what he meant 2000-years after?? Ogbeni! No just provoke us

I believe this post is targeted against Anti-Commandment people

OkCornel:
Anyways, that’s clearly at odds with what the scripture states;

Luke 10 v 36-37

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Whatever rocks your boat. But that’s your own description and understanding of who your neighbor is. I still can’t find any scriptural reference supporting that view.

We both understand ourselves here for Christ in that statement is simply saying among those neighbours, which one of them Complied with The Law?

And which one of them was a neighbour Right fully not wrong fully.

And You remember, Christ is Always huge on who did the Right!

OkCornel:
In other words, if you put yourself in the position of the attacked traveller in the parable of the Good Samaritan, the robbers who attacked you, and the Levite & Priest that ignored you are also your neighbors right?

Just to be very very clear I understand you.

Yes! They are my neighbours who failed to come to my aid.

He made them male and female is The Law!

Not male and female and "side chick'!

OkCornel:
Of course they will, but the question here is

Are they your neighbor or your enemy?

As we have already settled, everyone is my Neighbour, first, Under Law!

Then my neighbour becomes disobedient to God. At this point, the matter is between him and God and I am not a party in this transaction.

It is when atop his first disobedience to God, he thereafter commits a further disobedience in attempting to harm me, (Direct Offence) then he becomes a Neighbour who I have lawfull grievance against and whom I report to The Law Giver that he has harmed me or sought my harm.

And because I reasonably see he desires to harm me even fatally, then I am entitled to reasonably say that my Neighbour has become my Enemy, for he seeks to harm me continuously.

And it is also because of these issues that God Also Established The Courts, so that they could resolve these issues rightly.

Splinz:
The question is: Where or from whom did the people hear such a law or commandment from? Who taught or authored such law? Did God or any of His prophets teach or gave such law? Just, who said it? If anyone can find any of this answer to these questions in the scripture, I'd gladly tender an apology to such person. Anyone up for the challenge?

And then you supplied the Answer Here Below!

Splinz:
Cornel, understand. What Jesus said in verse 43 was neither an existing law nor affirmation of such law or commandment, supposedly from God or any of His prophets. Rather, what Jesus stated there was simply the tradition or teaching of the people. We all know the Pharisees right? This people, being that they were teachers of the law and scholars of the time, were notorious in churning out all sort of laws, rules, teachings, customs and traditions, that God has not authorized, all in a bid to be seen as righteous or men of high repute.

As an example of the Pharisees excesses, take a look at Mark 7:4-16, and see how Jesus call out their madness.

So having stated the Answer, there is nothing remaining.

OkCornel:
And those who do not follow this duty,..

They would Answer to The Law Giver!

OkCornel:
Can Splinz demonstrate to us if the Ammonites, Moabites and Amalekites should be treated exactly the same way in the New Testament as they were in the Old Testament as far as Matthew 5 v 43-44 is concerned?

As we have settled we all have a God Owed Duty to love each other Ammonites, Moabites, Amalekites, Israelite, NigerArearite.

But here Another Law from The Same Law Giver was Issued and had priority. Deuteronomy 23:3 in the case of Ammonites and Moabites.

While the Amalekites were commanded to be utterly destroyed by The Law Giver. 1 Samuel 15.

So it is unconnected and inapplicable here for The Law Giver Issued a different Command, Under His Rights to issue Commands

OkCornel:
Alright, share what you’ve got.

1) The Law of After their own Kind/An Evil Tree bears evil Fruit, plus, The Law that God can not give an evil thing, therefore, where does Cain come from? Whose Seed is he?

2) Why do we see excessive wickedness and evil in women? As crime, family and romance section have cried out? Where did that come?

3) She obeyed Satan, it is seen women do not obey strangers but lovers, so did she do more than just talk with Satan? (I imply sex)

4) We all see that women know something we the men, do not know, (though they act as though they never know what they are doing, until they strike) therefore what is it that they know, which they are not saying?

5) Then God Cursed her pregnancy (FIRST) Why?

6) Was Something already in there Already which God Cursed?

There are many questions and too many evidence in support and in answer to these questions but I can not bring them all at once.

OkCornel:
Who Cain married is another can of worms entirely.

However, who Cain’s father is was expressly stated in Genesis 4 v 1, unless there is good and sufficient evidence to prove that scripture contrary.

That is what I am after. I know I have good evidence and sufficient for me but depending on how high and low the standard of Proof is to another person, it may not be sufficient for them.

OkCornel:
Where in the scriptures did you read the serpent slept with Eve and conceived Cain?

I have already acknowledged that it was not expressly stated in the Bible but it is not an unusual thing to do this for there are many facts which we believe, which are not Expressly Stated in the Bible eg, Cain married his sister, "Enoch did not die," it was Christ Who spoke with Abraham in Genesis.

All these were inferred from Facts Expressly Given.

OkCornel:
Only if all can obey. If they do obey this duty, then we are all neighbors (not potential neighbors, but actual neighbors)

If only they would Truly Obey.

So now let's play on this other issue of Eve's sex with Satan.

I love learning.

OkCornel:
No hard feelings, we are only passionate to defend the truth we understand. These things do happen.

I also apologise for the harsh words I’ve used.

The most important thing is for us to get a clearer picture of the truth and become better students than we were yesterday.

Learning never stops, and no one has the monopoly of truth except God.

God bless.

Thank you Neighbour! And yes, learning never stops nor is Truth in the sole possession of a man.

OkCornel:
Exactly,...!

And this where we are speaking from.

All is Duty Bound to Obey The Laws of God, as you have acknowledged

That is the beginning and end of our Answer.

OkCornel:
Great, now we’re back to healthy dialogue.

Yes, we are!

I also apologize for the insults I gave, do forgive me.

OkCornel:
No, because not all of them are following this duty.

And these, who do not do this duty, are they not Disobeying God, already and in disobedience of God?

OkCornel:
I get you. You’re seeing it from the perspective of the giver, not the receiver.

You showing kindness to all men doesn’t make them your neighbors. It is how they treat you that makes you know who is your neighbor or enemy.

You get it now.

There are different Angles it can be viewed!

OkCornel:
Of course yes.

Thank you again!

And if they All have this Duty Laid on them Already by God, are All of them not my neighbour?

OpenYourEyes1:
I believe sharing the Word of GOD is by far greater...

Obeying "Every Word of The Lord" is Our Duty.

And The Law said when it is time to share, share!

When it is time to give, give!

It is not the place of a servant to measure greatness But To Obey and Carry out his duties, faithfully and rightfully.!

OkCornel:
If all shows mercy TO YOU. That’s the point I’m making. Yes they’ll be neighbors. That’s been explained in the parable of the Good Samaritan.

That is the point we are making, which takes me to the next question, are All duty bound and Obligated by God's Law, to do kindness?

OkCornel:
Pay close attention to the bolded, it is those who show you kindness, those who show you love in return that are considered your neighbors, your enemy does not fall into that category.

If all show kindness will all not be a neighbour?

awitness41:
And I respectfully disagree with your particular discernment on this one, also.

But it's okay... we can agree to disagree agreeably (kindly) on this one, and simply move on..

Thank you brother for understanding, for my disagreement with you is on the basis of Identification of other Laws, apart from The Commandments, which God also Established eg. "Can one go upon hot coals and not be burnt?"; Where the carcass is there shall the eagles be gathered, whatsoever ye plant, that shall ye take up again"!.

These are Fixed Laws too and one of my basis of this assertion is "whatsoever ye plant, that shall ye take up again"!. Which follows The Law of "After its own kind", which is still connected to The Law of "An evil tree can only bear evil fruits"

So you have got to give me A Law which completely sets aside these Laws, which is why we disagree.

I hope I did not waste.your time? I apologize if I did!

awitness41:
I did answer your question my friend (see above).
Cain was the physical son of Adam.
But he was a Spiritual son of the devil, bearing bad fruit, because he chose to be that way.

Respectfully I disagree because it is not possible for physical mango to be spiritually grape.

It is as consistent and unchanging as Vinegar is to the teeth and hot Coals in the Bosson.

"the Wicked that shall work a deceitful work, the Soul of the Wicked desireth evil, and An evil tree shall always bear evil fruits!

No Seed (Cain) can have 2 Fathers (Trees).

truespeak:
Who shall speak to the insane that he shall hear? Shall he not stone you for even speaking to him?

He hath need to be first cured of his Insanity, that is even more pressing and urgent, after that all other things can be added into him.

Let his people come and carry him for urgent and much needed treatment.

The Insane and the Sane have nothing in common, nor can they dwell together.

Leave him in his pit, that is where he belongs!

I think I am in the case where I have to answer the Fool in his folly!

OkCornel:
Can someone ask this shameless liar if one’s enemies are also considered to be his neighbor why then did Jesus;.

Finally, the Case is before the Good people of Nairaland (not bad people oh), where it has always been anyway.

Judge ye rightly and fairly!
By reason of the Parable of the good Samaritan, Is everyone in the world, whether Pakistan Imam or German arms dealer or Texas Prostitute, who is capable of doing good to me, therefore my neighbour?

Is everyone in the world not capable of doing good to me?

And if everyone is capable of doing good to me, are they not all my neighbours?

Is this Truth not what we were taught even down in Nursery school?

Let Righteousness and "Just is" be done and the evil doer and Liar can be put in Everlasting Shame.