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Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:24pm On May 23, 2021

LordReed:
When you have evidence for the existence of soul, spirit or afterlife feel free to present it.

We've had this argument before and I showed you and when you could not reasonably rebut nor counter it, you chose to insult me.

The bottom line is that you will never accept the evidence and there is nothing I or anyone can do about it exactly as no can force you to accept that it is not raining in Lagos right now, whilst you insist that it is raining.

So it is an effort in futility with you like trying to show a blind man a naked woman.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:43am On May 23, 2021

Judas1X:
He will smell his nyansh today. Nobody has had his time on this forum. He thinks he's a big man. Lmfao

And yet you could not say any reasonable or True thing rather you went straight to insults.

Did you not hear that He who attempts to establish his argument by insults and noise shows that he has nothing to give? grin

Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Resurrections Are There Going To Be? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:38am On May 23, 2021

Jokerman:
Lol... That means you don't believe in rapture before tribulation?

I Always tell them that, that space ship is not coming!

And that the rapture has taken place and is taking place!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:35am On May 23, 2021

Judas1X:
Since they're so clear, can you provide a list of these THINGS that you keep yapping about??

Easy!

1) You saw the first one "Judgement of God when it Arrives" which you said was "Natural" but now you agree that you have seen that there are things which have happened to people which is Above and Beyond Natural. So no argument there and that one is in the bag!

2) The others are "Favour": Every one knows that Favour is Abnormal, what is normal is to receive the grudgingly given kindness which is even sometimes fought for.

But Favour is Distinct because you get good things Too easily, without fight or even complaint or even asking for them. What people call "Open Doors" over above the Normal of Shut Doors and doors being hesitantly open or forced to be open, if not, no good for you to receive.

That is the Power of the Abnormality of Favour

3) Blessings! Just like Favour, WHICH IS GOOD THINGS ONLY HAPPENING, ALL THE TIME TO THE BLESSED PERSON WHILE ALL OTHERS, EVEN ON THAT SAME ROAD, STRUGGLE ALONG.

NO BAD THING HAPPENS TO THEM EVEN WHEN IT HAPPENED TO YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SAME POSITION.

This has been seen and you know someone who all these things happened to maybe your classmate, neighbour or colleague!

4) Curses! The Opposite of Blessing: You have seen and known a certain person who "Every bad and worse thing happens to and happens to him alone as though Someone marked him and instructed that when evil goes around, they must always pay him a visit, without fail.

All these things are Seen and they are not hidden.

Judas1X:
[b]Your god is supposedly omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient, yet he cannot think of a way to make the knowledge of his existence universally observable to the children he loves.

The Proof of Carpenter is His Chair; The Proof of an Engineer is His Engine, The Proof of Water is "Wetness" and the Proof of Fire is Burning and Heat.

Does A Carpenter or an Engineer prove himself to his work? No! It is not done!

You will never do that and so God has a Right to never do that!

Just say that you are just taking this opportunity to insult God, Exactly as the Bible said, for you do not have anything reasonable or True to say.

Judas1X:
The existence of atheists and pagans is a testament to the incompetence of your impotent god.

Did I not say it? Because you do not have anything reasonable and True to say, but to come and prove the Truth of the Bible which had foresaid that scoffers and insulters will come on the Last Days!

Judas1X:
The existence of atheists alone is solid proof that your god is fake.

Stupid! You Prove The Truth of God in that He Fore-said you would come and here you are! grin

You have arrived as He Fore-Said! grin

Judas1X:
You, Dtruthspeaker, are solid proof that god is a product of fevered imaginations, because if he really existed, he wouldn't use an arrogant bumbling illiterate like you to spread his gospel.

Eramefefe!![/b]

And here arrives the Legendary Insults of Losers when they see that they have lost their matter and can never prevail! grin

Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Resurrections Are There Going To Be? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:44am On May 23, 2021

Jokerman:
Which is the 1st?[/color]

I said "First is the Resurrection of the souls who were killed for refusing to take the evil Mark!"

IT IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THEM ALONE, NO OTHER!

[quote author=Jokerman post=101976725]What about the resurrection at the final judgment?

This is where Judgement Day is and Every one since Cain will be raised to stand Trial or Promotion (Caught up/taken up to Christ Jesus!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:30am On May 23, 2021

sonmvayina:
Dtruthspeaker....another person again. You just don't want to admit the fact that you are too dull in these kind of matters. You have to be humble so you can learn. ..start on a clean slate. Forget all the mumbo jumbo they fed you with....

Oh insane man, when will thou be well enough to real eyes that a notice of objection is merely an expression of opinion and not the establishment of Truth?

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:24am On May 23, 2021

LordReed:
I repeat you have no scientific evidence, stop lying to yourself.

You are the one who lies to himself for what you call scientific evidence is First Evidence and Always Evidence.

And it is No Different from the other types of Evidence which is used to Prove and Establish the Truth of A Matter!

And the Evidence of God is Seen, Felt, Heard, Known, Perceived and Experienced Fully Satisfying The Law of Evidence!

Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Resurrections Are There Going To Be? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:59am On May 23, 2021

Jokerman:
Who about those who died before the Antichrist comes? The bible also said they'd be resurrected at the rapture of the saints, when is their resurrection, 1st or 2nd?

The 2nd!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:55am On May 23, 2021

Judas1X:
Knowledge and assumption are not the same thing

Yes! Once a thing is Seen, it is Known.

And every Soul KNOWS THAT WHICH IS ABNORMAL, BEYOND NORMAL AND UNUSUAL.

AND YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN THESE THINGS IF YOU SHALL BE TRUTHFUL TO YOURSELF!

Which is why I confidently said

"The Proof of God is Seen in His Judgements when they arrive and executed.

Every soul knows in Truth that God's Judgement has Fallen on a Person and No Soul Misses it, for it is Always Noticeable"

Judas1X:
If it is known, then why do atheists exist?

Because they are simply exercising their personal Right and Permission to Choose A Lie and Reject the Truth!

That's All!

And it is not because the Evidence is not Known or Seen.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:42am On May 23, 2021

Judas1X:
Olodo! Natural phenomenon serve only as proof of the NATURAL. They don't serve as proof for a supernatural sky fairy.

This is what happens when you choose to waste your life on goat herder mythology than seeking actual knowledge.

Fool! The Unatural and Beyond Natural Happens in this Natural that we know all know very well which is why we have the words "Unatural, Beyond Normal and Abnormal which is What you called and why you have the word you called "Supernatural", which is "Beyond Natural" Above Natural and Not Natural.

So, you have the right to sucide your life, it is still your life you waste and not another! Unless of course you are murder suicider!

Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Resurrections Are There Going To Be? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:01am On May 23, 2021

Jokerman:
So people how many resurrections will be?

As you see, it is 2!

1) First is the Resurrection of the souls who were killed for refusing to take the evil Mark!

They get compensated with 1000 years of Goodnesses of Life on earth, then Satan is released to Test them again!

2) The Final Resurrection and Judgement of All Dead everywhere, from Cain and the old world to the Last Day before judgement including those who have taken their compensation for refusing the mark but they followed Satan when he was released to them.

Christianity Etc › Re: Has Life Circumstances Made You Complain Bitterly Against God? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:46am On May 23, 2021

It is Always fools who complain.

God already told you that there are 2 lifes out there.

1) life under the Curse of hardship and difficulty, where everyone is! The wide road!

2) Life eternal of Blessings thank fullness, and very very few find it. The Narrow road!

Your Road your choice and it is wickedness to bring God into a matter He has Already solved but you do not want to take the solution. How is it is fault?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is God's Love The Only True Love? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:17pm On May 22, 2021

Myer:
Humans have their flaws, no one is perfect..

That's why I confidently said "No one on earth comes close to the Love that God has Given and still Pours from time to time on undeserving hateful men, even upon His Enemies Too"

Myer:
Is God's love always Good though?

Always!

Myer:
When God told King Saul to utterly destroy the women, children and even cattle of the Amalekites,was that good? 1 Samuel 15

Yes! Remember I told you on the other thread about "Life is good until..." that "when you sin, Curses and everything you would not like Plus Loss of Rights and Benefits happen"

The Amelekites did Abominations and they got the Curse of Sin.

Take Note too Israel too later did the same abominations and that same Judgement fell on them and they were only spared because of The Law of the Covenant God had with Abraham!

Unfortunately for the Amelekites, they had No Law to save them!

Christianity Etc › Re: Is God's Love The Only True Love? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:03pm On May 22, 2021

Myer:
Your parents care for you is that love or not?

Love is Always Good now were your parents Always Good?

Presuming you had normal parents as shown by family and romance section everything your parents did mine too!

So using the parameters of measurement and weighing of True Love, Judge for yourself if they neared God's Own Love!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:15pm On May 22, 2021

LordReed:
I guess when Dr Myles Munroe died in a plane crash it was your god that killed him or when Dare Adegboye died in his sleep your god executed him. LMAO! Keep interpreting natural phenomenon as the floorings of your god since it seems to give you comfort. The vagaries of life don't care for your beliefs.

As I said when God's Judgement Arrives Every Soul Notices it and shall Notice it!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:09pm On May 22, 2021

LordReed:
You mean how you interpret natural phenomenon and disasters as a proof of your favourite god character? Yeah right. LMFAO!

Nope! From the abundance of hearts of men, All souls confess, that God is God Indeed!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:07pm On May 22, 2021

LordReed:
So? Doesn't provide proof for the existence of such a god.

The Proof of God is Seen in His Judgements when they arrive and executed.

Every soul knows in Truth that God's Judgement has Fallen on a Person and No Soul Misses it, for it is Always Noticeable.

Which is why Nigerians confess "dem don Curse that one" or hmm, God dey deal with that man O!

It is Known that God Lives and Rules and you are only trying to make yourself not accept it by telling yourself that!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:01pm On May 22, 2021

LordReed:
Or because tall tale characters can't do shít.

Yet when His Judgements Do Arrive and is Executed, we see there is a shouting, Exactly as it is Written.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:51pm On May 22, 2021

LordReed:
Or because such a god doesn't exist.

Or Because God made sentences against an evil work not to be executed speedily, therefore the heart of men is fully set to do evil!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:46pm On May 22, 2021

LordReed:
It won't make me feel like punishing the child forever though.

Nevertheless, some punishment falls on him!

Christianity Etc › Re: Is God's Love The Only True Love? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:26pm On May 22, 2021

Myer:
Love is a universal language.
Many religions teach about love.
However only Christianity claims monopoly of love.

The bible teaches that every thing humans knew as love had never been love.
The bible teaches that only God loves us..

And you forget a very important element of Love, "Love is Not One Sided"

Love is Pain Full and as a Lame man if it is Lopsided!

But it is A Complete Whole Person who walks Surely, Firmly, Confidently and Joy Filledly when Balanced, Even and Equally Returned to Each Contributor of Love!

Christianity Etc › Re: Is God's Love The Only True Love? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:03pm On May 22, 2021

Myer:
I had hoped one or more Christians would prove me wrong.

Guess some of you need some sense knocked into you.

We know you have wickedness in mind but in the end, you would see that it is you who is very wicked!

And that God is Indeed Very Very Good!

Christianity Etc › Re: Is God's Love The Only True Love? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:01pm On May 22, 2021

Myer:
Many religions teach about love.
However only Christianity claims monopoly of love.

I say we do not claim monopoly of Love but we do say is that "If it is Good, it is Love"

And that there is No One on earth Who and Which Comes near or Beats The Love which God has Given to us and Continually Gives Us!

There is None at all!

Myer:
The bible teaches that every thing humans knew as love had never been love.
The bible teaches that only God loves us.

The Bible Teaches that Love is Always Good. Thus, it asks us, "Do we Truly Love, if our love is properly measured and weighed?"

The Answer is very clearly, No, we Mostly Do Not Love!

Myer:
Christians preach that the love between a mother and her child is not true love.
That the love between a husband and his wife is not true love.
That the love between siblings is not true love.
That the love between best friends is not true love.

Go to family, romance and crime section and see how they Prove the Truth of what the Bible said

Myer:
That the only true love is the love of God. And the love of Christ dying for the sins of mankind.

Love does not hurt and wound the loved when it is "Loving"!

Myer:
This doesnt really ring in when you're at the receiving end of the human love. But when you're at the giving end of the love, it becomes betrayal.

I do not understand this part!

Myer:
How can you say your parents do not love you when they sacrifice their lives to give you food, cloth, shelter and even good education and upbringing?

If only you knew their True minds and that it was God's Love which compelled them to Act that way!

Myer:
How can you say it is not love when a spouse gives everything when they meet their ther half?

Here is the where both Spouses ought to see the Goodness of God and learn of His great love towards them but they corrupt it and they never see what God has done nor ever learn.

So, Love may have begun in it, but the couples destroy it, hence it fails!

Myer:
How can you say it is not love when siblings would do anything to protect and help one another?

How can you say it is not love when you have a friend that can go to the end of the world for you?

In most cases, it is done with interest and convenience, it is not bonafide!

Love is always there even in inconveniences.

Myer:
The only difference between the Love in the bible and the aforementioned human love is simple, one is real and the former is imaginary.

As I said up, No one on earth comes close to the Love that God has Given and still Pours from time to time on undeserving hateful men, even upon His Enemies Too.

No man ever loved His Enemies! No not one has voluntarily done that of his own motion.

Christianity Etc › Re: Life Is Good Until... by Dtruthspeaker: 2:34pm On May 22, 2021*

Myer:
I'm just being rational here.

You are in order and I was not offended, but there were other errors in your statement which need to be avoided, hence the way I responded.

Myer:
I know I've sinned.
I believe the bible says we all sin. The only difference between us and Adam is the confession of our sins and repentance as we ask for forgiveness

Which is my point for asking the question.
Cos sin is inevitable.
Both sin against God and sin against your fellow man.

Cos even as employees you could be late to work.
As employers you could charge usury. Etc

That's one of the many lessons the Bible attempts to teach all men, which I would summarise like this.

The Bible agrees that in relating with your surrounding, conflicts will occur and Offences (sins) might be given and be taken. This is not a problem at all.

The problem is WHAT TYPE OF OFFENCES!

1) ARE THEY BONAFIDE AND GOOD NATURED OFFENCES HAVING NO EVIL AT ALL OR

2) ARE THEY WILFUL AND DELIBERATE WICKEDNESSES TARGETED AT ANOTHER PERSON OR THING?

The Bible tells us that by 99% Accuracy, we choose to implement No. 2 Type of Offences AND WE LOVE TO IMPLEMENT IT! (Which is the Key of our Damnation, man, Loves To Do Wicked Things)

The Bible does not hide the fact that it is profitable and sweet to do No. 2, but IT CLEARLY WARNS that it's profit is very short-lived and that inside its profits is Contained Pain, Anguish, Sorrow, Curses/Cursing, Destruction and Finally The Great Judgment of Everlasting life of Unending and Unabating Pain.

The Bible discloses All of The Diverse Ways we wilfully sin Under No. 2 and that it is by the Proven Facts of No. 2 that we shall be Judged.

Thus, the Bible lays down The Laws which guide us and aid us from committing any Crime/Sin/Offence under No. 2.

While we undertake the Sacrifice of Christ (Sin Offering) to wipe away all our previous No. 2 Sins so that we may be Clean and that Through The Laws, we may remain Clean and Unsinned!

That is the briefest summary of Sin vs. Sacrifice for Sins vs. Judgement for Sins!

Christianity Etc › Re: Life Is Good Until... by Dtruthspeaker: 10:12am On May 22, 2021*

Myer:
Let's bring this home.
Let's be as true as possible.

Did you commit any sin this week?

haha! It is sufficient that, I have not done you any Wicked or Evil thing as you have already admitted by your question! grin

And you would not know The True Truth if I have not offended Another, for you are not the Judge! grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Life Is Good Until... by Dtruthspeaker: 8:52am On May 22, 2021

Myer:
Glad you know that it was God who cursed man and not the devil. Interesting.
And the same God suddenly blames man for committing sin?

Yet man has not been able to overcome the curse even after Jesus came to die for the sins of man?

After many days of consideration, ok!

Which came first? Was it not Sin?

Is it not Seen and Known that After Sin, Comes Curses?

Therefore, Curses are Avoidable, if you Truly want to avoid them, in the exercise of your Freewill.

Freewilly Avoid Curses, if you want, for you can also choose to exercise your freewill to avoid Curses, if you want!

Myer:
It's interesting that one sin immediately caused God to chase Adam and Eve out of Eden.

It is exactly as an employee who has stolen from the Company he works in is ejected from that Company and everyone says it is a Rght full Decision, this, when you sin, Curses and everything you would not like Plus Loss of Rights and Benefits happen.

That is why you should not sin if you love yourself and you love good things!

Myer:
Yet the sacrifice of a whole God through Jesus Christ was not enough to restore man into the Garden of Eden or Paradise. The sacrifice of a whole son 9f God dying was not enough to obliterate the sinfulness in man!!!

The Law of Sin Sacrifice is meant to Wipe Out ONLY THE SINS OF THOSE WHO KNOW THEY HAVE SINNED AND HATE TO SIN AND DO NOT WANT TO SIN AGAIN!

All who do not fall under this Law do not have their sins Wiped Out

IT IS NOT DELETE BUTTON AND RESTORATION! NO

BUT DELETE BUTTON FOR QUALIFICATION FOR CONSIDERATION FOR RESTORATION!

RESTORATION COMES AFTER JUDGEMENT EXACTLY AS YOU WEIGH AND RECONSIDER ACCEPTING AND RESTORING BACK YOUR OFFENDING WIFE OR GIRLFRIEND YOU SEE THAT SHE IS REMORSEFUL FOR HER SINS.

AND EXACTLY LIKE PRISONERS, "RESTORED FOR GOOD BEHAVIOUR IS THEIR KEY TO LEAVING THE CURSE OF PRISON!"

Christianity Etc › Re: Adam And Eve: OPINION by Dtruthspeaker: 3:15am On May 22, 2021

FatherCHRlSTMAS:
I am of the opinion that ...

Your get out jail free card!

Good thing you said "In your Opinion" which clearly means "How you Personally Prefer to see it, even if it is Not True, (which of course it is not True) but Nobody can do anything about that and nobody should do so.

Because, it is your house and your preference for blindless or light as you have chosen from time to time and your own food cooked eaten by you alone.

My objection is that it is not our concern and business what you cooked and ate last night!

Eat your food peacefully and disturb not our own Peace!

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Is All Powerful Then Why Does He Need People To Worship Him? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:49am On May 22, 2021

XXXXTENTACION:
men why does God need validation from people
why does he need to be worshiped 24/7
Of what use is people's worship to God

Nothing of the sort!

When One Good Thing has been done to you, we say thank you, knowing you can do Him Good in return! (Because of The Law of "Do Unto Others"

When One Great thing has been done, we bow down to He who has done that Great thing in serious Thank-You-Giving or Thanks Giving for short. Still knowing that you could one day, Do One or Two or a Couple of Good Things in Return

What do you think shall therefore happen to He Who has Done Many Great and Mighty Good Things? And He is Still going to Continue Doing Those Great and Mighty Things?

And you Can not Do Him any Good Thing in Return, so that you can Cancel your Debt of Goodness Owed. Thus, you Perpetually Owe Him Great and Mighty Goodness in Return! (Hence, The Lord's Prayer, "Forgive us our Debts" is Accurate).

So how many Thank Yous' do you think you are owing? And how many thank yous' do you think you shall be owing? And how many thank yous owed do you think you shall be able to pay back?

And where He continues to do you Good, you continue to owe, so when and how shall you repay those thank yous owed?

Worship, love and Service is the Nearest thing we can do to begin the pursuit in Settling our Perpetual Debts of Goodness Received and Owed!

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Free Is Freewill? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:31pm On May 21, 2021

Myer:
The point is according to the bible, God gave man dominion on earth.
He gave man free will to choose between Life and Death. Deuteronomy 30:19

That is the Command of Freewill given to creations which you did not give to your own creation.

Which is why you have the power and right to do your own will.

But you are forgetting that He Too has the Power and Right to do His Own Will Too.

Myer:
But also according to the bible there are instances where God superseded man's freewill.
1. When Jesus blinded Paul on his way to persecute Christians in Damascus for him to accept him as Lord.

2. When God drove King Nebuchadnezzar out of men to live like an animal for years until he accepted God as Most High.

3. When God sent a storm and whale to swallow up Jonah till he accepted to deliver his message.

4. When the bible said God hardened the hearts of men so that his would prevail.

Exactly! In Exercise of His Power and Right to Do His Own Will Too.

Abi, is it because He gave you freewill, His Own Freewill don loss? grin

Does God not have His Own Freewill and Should He not have?

Una funny O grin

Una think say na only una get freewill and fit exercise freewill! grin

Una funny die! grin

Christianity Etc › Re: How Do You Understand This Jesus Prayer? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:23pm On May 21, 2021*

SimplePlan34:
If he his not biased explain the concept of grace.

Grace means Goodness! All the Goodnesses in this world that is Favour, Help, Counsel, Blessings, Mercy and any Good thing which you can not get for yourself.

SimplePlan34:
Xplain why ppl who keeps his commandments don't get prosperous

Short Cut Answer! They Did Not Pass God's Exams and therefore they are still in school and not learning what The Lord Teaches as they keep His Commandments, until they "Drop out" by themselves. (God does not do "Adviced to Withdraw"! You will stay in that class and in School until you "Pass" and are "Promoted to the Next Class"!

They are thinking among many other stupid thinkins that God would Follow them. Rather than, this Quote helped me

"To See God's Will Accomplished in your life, You Must Follow God, instead of expecting God to Follow You!"

SimplePlan34:
...and those who breaks it are doubting their wealth. Ur God is a scam

Psalms, Ecclesiastics and the Parable of the Prodigal Son tell you what God has done to them and for them.

This is the Only life they shall have. They Do not have Eternal Life and they shall not be having it.

So in the Grace of God, He says, One Last Good that He Can at Least give them is that they should at least "enjoy" this "little portion of life very very well, so that they can enjoy the other portion of life very very well also!

Christianity Etc › Re: How Do You Understand This Jesus Prayer? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:54pm On May 21, 2021

SimplePlan34:
Jesus is a very biased God very useless.

Just as it Is Always a thief who complains about Stealing, it is Always the Bias who complains about bias!

Christianity Etc › Re: How Do You Understand This Jesus Prayer? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:51pm On May 21, 2021

ChristisGod:
Wow

Are u a Christian?

Kindly, go through my posts and decide who you think I should be!

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