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budaatum:
Then I guess you have not yet engaged with the numerous contradictions you encounter in life.

A thought does not exist outside your head, for instance, but yet you are thinking thoughts inside your head. How?

Wrong thinking, Existence Always means it is Identifiable, Verifiable and Evidenced.

Thus, the reasonable question that arises is "Where is it? Is it in or out?" Not is it in existence?

Now, you do not have a problem of Existence but of "Location" and Place!

budaatum:
I repeat!

Gods do not exist except in the heads of those who create Gods inside their own heads.

If buda then prays to Gods, to whom do you think buda prays?

Since HellVictorinho stands back, i"ll say, your first flaw is that "God does not exist" is inconsistent for contradiction with "God is created inside their own heads*

For if he is created, then he exists, for creation brings into existence.

Thus, this is incoherent and unintelligible for It is The Law that "A Fact Cannot both be in Existence and in Non-existence at the Same Period of Time"!

truespeak:
Oh boy e!

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Martian:
They stayed away because there was nothing resembling a legal mind in that discussion between you and yourself. They are not curiously silent. They are silently embarrassed.

Every Lawyer knows that "In the Absence of An Objection, A Fact Is Taken as True!

But, you would not know that!

truespeak:
@Dtruthspeaker

O boy, e be like say you don scatter person head, for this is insanity

surely, you are referring to the guy of yesterday whose name I should not mention so that he can have his peace to nurse his wounds.

Martian:
Lmao. I’ll start calling you Bruce Jenner and your female alter ego Caitlin Jenner.

You’re a freaking joke. Your psychotic thread about Eve’s charges is testament to that fact.

My thread about Eve's Charges is For All MOST ESPECIALLYY LAWYERS HERE, But they are Curiously Silent and Appear to desire not to identify themselves as One!

So, I have to make do and enjoy the company of My Fellow at Law here!

budaatum:
Really? This same HellVictorinho?

Are you sure he does not need your assistance, or do you just not want to offer it to him?

let him dance with you!

budaatum:
Doubt? buda? Is your head okay at all? Please read very carefully!

Gods do not exist except in the heads of those who create Gods inside their own heads.

If you do not understand, please ask questions. And do not ever dare assume you can be telling buda what buda can or can not do as if you are the God of buda. Your powers do not extend into buda's head! buda will pray to thin air if buda wants to.

I am sure HellVictorinho is capable of pointing out the flaws and errors of your thinking, already further increased in your answer above!

HellVictorinho:
You are praying to someone whose existence you doubt.
That doesn't make sense.
If you don't know if God exist,then you shouldn't pray to God.
I KNOW THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST.
I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE GOD EXISTS.

oh oh oooh!

TimeIllusion:
Yes, we’ve read that you’re a lawyer. You’ve told us 10,001 times that you’re a lawyer. However, if you’re what passes for a lawyer, the land might as well be lawless.
Now, assume your female alter ego and tell us again.

The land was lawless even before I became a lawyer and what have I done to be attacked so?

Anyway, if you had a discerning spirit you would see that our spirits are different being male and female as our posts and threads prove.

For it is The Law "No person can be both male and female"!

TimeIllusion:
Lmao
I should start paying myself stupid compliments with a hearty response of Thank you!

We are both Lawyers and whilst i am male Truespeak is female, our posts here prove the difference.

truespeak:
The Understanding is this, the mere fact that you have done work for a person does not make you the employee of such a person!

Wow and sweet! I have not used nor remembered that Law in a very long time! Sweet

ogaemeka:
2nd Corinthians 12: 7

Therefore, to keep me from being too elated, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me, to keep me from being too elated.

From your posture earlier you were resistant to correction!

But the shortest answer I can give is that

"Not Withstanding Any Previous Liability, All Creations Are Tightly Bound to carry out the Direct and Express Instructions of God, At any period of time as per their instructions!

Thus, the mere fact that The Lord gave instructions to Satan at specific times and places does not therefore absolve Satan of any prior liability neither does it crown on him the Defence of Agency and Superior Orders"!

iyambz:
Yes, correct. The reason why bitterness hurts the most is because it grieves the holy Spirit of God. Though my write up only applies to a saved christian who is trying to love the Lord. I guess that clarifies things.

Okay!

ogaemeka:
I can only reply that God rendered His counsel through men, so it is not impossible that He is still doing that through me.

Apart from that, I will not bother to help your struggle with comprehension.

I understand, but I know for a Truth that God never considered or said

" ...the devil" is "an enforcer of His will..."

This is Not True!

LordReed:
So what if he is dispensible? He still doesn't require belief.

Because he has "no-live" that is, "No Life" to give me, therefore, I can not Live-on-or with-him!

Therefore, "No-Life" thus, "No belief!

LordReed:
You didn't. You did "wuru wuru to the answer".

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But i did not, i will break it down for you to see under!

LordReed:
You really need to stop thinking of winning discussions and start engaging honestly.

I am actually not playing to win, for in winning, I would and must be set in a way i already know.

Now if that set way is wrong, how then can I change?

Therefore, my purposes for contention is to
1) To discover the weakness of my stand so that I could stand rightly.

2) Test the strength and extent of my "knowing" together with the confidence thereof, for it is only when we stand "on a ground" that we can ever be confidential, not on water or in the air, or sinking sands but Solid Grounds.

3) As I received, I therefore must give! And many of the grounds people stand on, I once stood on them but I also fell with them when they were challenged and by reason of this fall, I was able to find the Solid Grounds on which the earth is Laid and Stands on.

So when I move or shake the earth anything not perfectly founded must crumble.

4) Then, many times when I only wish to point an observation, I am reasonably and understandably called upon to defend that assertion, which based on the circumstances on ground (again ground) may result in bringing me shame or glow.

Thus, it is not my goal or desire to win an argument unless such argument is raised for the purpose of smearing, ridiculing or shaming me.

LordReed:
If we grant objective morality exists...

First, All Moralities are grounded on Good and Balance Reason, which hurts No One at all, hence the word "Reasonable" is always attached to any Moral Principle, being both objective and general and Subjective and Personal!

But whichever the case good reason will still be in them, Therefore, Morality Exists and is Always in Force!

LordReed:
...and one can adhere to it without belief then it's already granted that all aspects of Morality are covered, ..

Adherence to a thing, is "belief" of that thing for "Belief" refers to act and conduct of "Beginning to Live or Act on a thing or information!

All offences (sins) hurt! Well there are many that are "hurter" than others!

RedSquid:
That's why we must disclose all our tips to them. I scarcely do, the more the disclose, the tighter the game. But, regardless of how tight any ladies game is, I make it my assignment to demystify and unravel her first and foremost.

Ok!

LordReed:
Buhari exists whether you believe him or not. Buhari will act whether you believe him or not. Ergo belief in Buhari is useless.

True! But the point of believe is to use for good and profitable use, for "Believe" Truly means "Begin-to-Live"!

Which further means "To Act on an Information or Knowledge"!

So Buhari is useless if I can not get any good thing from him! Therefore, he is dispensible!

LordReed:
2. If a god exists and is the source of all morality but yet you can adhere to the morality without belief then belief adds nothing to the equation.

I agree that it is possible to be moral BUT your Morality Must be Limited to ONLY THE THINGS YOU ALREADY KNOW ARE MORAL!

Therefore Stuck in the past and not being able to update!

Also, you will and must fail in those things which are also Moral, But you did not Know that they were also a Moral, and thus required to be complied with!

And this is where the Advantage of being In Connection to The Source, Origin and The Maker/Discarder of Morality is Greatly Advantageous, for now, such a one can keep All moralities both past, present and future.

LordReed:
Going by these to points above I am inclined to say belief in god is useless.

I could add more this as time goes on but I be happy to hear your view.

I have shot it down!

LordReed:
1. If a god exists, belief or lack thereof does nothing to change the situation.

Wrong! Is that not what we Nigerians call "Connections"?

Who in Nigeria will shun connections with Pres. Buhari, Ministers, Governors etc?

It is always profitable and gainful to be "Connected" to He that can deliver good in Nigerian english "make things Happen"!

Truvel:
So, Are U Trying To Say Dat All Those Whose Had Misfortunes In Life Didn't Lay Their Bed Well? Or It's All Those Who Were Victims Of Life Situations Planted Evil Dat's Why They Are Reaping It?

When you put the word "All" my response will not be Truth-full! However, you also Truly know what I mean and can discern the difference!

Truvel:
We Are Saying Dsame Thing. They Av To Move On With Life...Even Ecclasicstics Made It Clear Dat There Is Time 4 Everything.

Ok

ogaemeka:
GOD VERSUS NOTHINGNESS (John 1: 5)

Looking at Isaiah chapter 45 verse 7, we can even go further to question if the devil really exists as a person, or as a metaphor of the Almighty's prerogative to be mischievous

When men lack understanding, they speak from their emptiness.

Isaiah 45 is clearly about the Super-ity, Greatness and Authority of God and His Anger against All of His Creations in Failing to Do their Duty and in Doing their Duty Wrongfully!

ogaemeka:
And what can you do about that?

You can learn that it is beneficial to ignore the worries and struggles of life and focus on the positives no matter how little. If you keep feeding your mind with the true perspective of positivity, you will find that the negative is a lie that is coated with false appearance of reality. I mean that adversities are tests that you will surely pass because your faith in Christ has entrusted your mind with God's coercive authority over darkness.

The opportunity cost of succumbing to the distraction of pessimism is the incalculable potential of what could have been for the human race in the glorious eternity of your illustrious vision, because no matter how long it takes, the vainglory of this material existence will eventually fade away. Ignorant minds are workshops of the devil in the sense that the collective magnetism of hollowness is a gravitational force of darkness dragging the human race to class oblivion.

The mind is never idle even when one is asleep, and the devil's tools are potentiated to the extent of the mind's susceptibility to subversion in any state of consciousness, therefore ignorance is an inexcusable indictment of not feeding the mind with truth. However, I trust that your acuity will continue to help you overcome calamity.

God is the creative inventor of all things, and your great imagination is the workshop of His manifestation!

See, how you still give your own counsel as though The Lord had not rendered His Own Advice to all men!

ogaemeka:
GOD VERSUS NOTHINGNESS (John 1: 5)

If we dare to extract the implication that God's omniscience and omnipotence reduces the devil to an enforcer of His will, then we can absolve the messenger of blame for carrying out the functions assigned by the Master...

One Person's Knowing does not absolves another's duty.

For Duty is Personal and Liability is Personal and All Personal Liability arises from that person's "guilty mind" called "Mens Rea"

The Law of Guilt and Absolution is
"Actus non facit reum, Nisi mens sit rea"

Translation: "A man's act is not guilty, UNLESS his mind is guilty"

And the Personal Knowledge of God has no connection to the duty and liability of Satan, for he had power choose either the good work or the evil one!

HedwigesMaduro:
Does "My Kingdom is not of this world" ring a bell?

D yep! but there is another statement I am certain you did not observe, to wit-

"..But Now is my kingdom Not from hence."

RedSquid:
I did with one. So, it taught me to investigate against future occurrences, in the second I didn't. Both very high class decent looking angels by mere outward appearance but then times more devils than anyone would ever imagine

Wow, sorry! I wish I could say more but they are here, studying us and the next thing, they will upgrade their game and men will fall once again!

Do you observe that they are not easily commenting here?

But I can say this, their School is Men, their Course of Study, Men and their Work/Office is Men!

Truvel:
Dtruthspeaker, What Would U Say Abt Those Who Failed In Their Relationship, Marriage Or Couldn't Save Their Relationship Or Marriage, Inspite Of Their Effort To Save It. Does It Mean Dat It Was All Of Dem Dat Caused Their Misfortunes? Or Does It Mean Dat It Was All Of Dem Dat Are Not Prayerful? Does It Mean Dat It Was All Of Dem Dat Are Not Christians? They Tried Their Best But It Didn't Happened As Dey Wished. What Would U Tell Such One To Comfort Dem? Is It Not To Move On With Their Life & Hope 4 Better Things To Come?

Forgive me yet again for my Answer, for I say yes, it their Fault!

For it is The Law "Whatsoever a man planteth, that shall he take up also". The people of the earth would say " As you lay your bed, so shall you lie on it"!

Truvel:
Dtruthspeaker, I Will Give U A Good Illustration Of What I'm Saying. A Young Man Was Shot Dead By An Unknown Gun Men. Dis Man Was Rich, Kind & Generous To D People Of D Community. B4 His Death, He Escaped One Assasination Of Which He Did A Thanksgiving In His Church, To God 4 Saving His Life. Brought Food & Drinks To Celebrate In D Church. He Was Prayed By His Pastor & D Congregation. Unfortunately, He Was Later Shot Dead. He Is D Bread Winner Of His Family & His Wife & Children Are Now Suffering Now. How Would U Comfort D Wife & Children? Is It Not To Tell Dem To Move On With Life?

Mmm! Please forgive me for my Answer coming up.

Beyond "sorry" and mourning with them, I have no power to comfort them, That is God's Part.

But as long as they are still on earth, they have many matters to attend to and they shall have many many more still.

MaxInDHouse:
A foolish man once said "See Paris and die"
Please is there no death, sicknesses, crimes, injustices in the countries your friend mentioned?
Truly most people's brains can't grasp what the word "Paradise" really mean! Luke 23:43

At least, he appreciated this!

ezenwajosh:
there's a world without a problem. Means of transportation DEATH

Yep!

I love your choice of words, "Transportation" very Accurate!

I really can't wait to board that bus to get there, I hate this world and I can't wait to be rid of it!

Very Wicked place it is and the Wickedness is still growing!