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A bird in hand is better than 7 in the bush.

He needs Frank Edowor's "Ask the Audience Machine"

Anybody get am here?

Wilson5183:
Rilly. That cool.
Am beginning to love Crv now.

I do too, going 5years and counting! just ensure you put in Dw1 transmission oil and the other maintenance things, good driving habits you'll be fine.

Great Speakers too but every car has great Speakers these days.

Amatarasha:
you hurt my feelings and am angry with ur ass Sally!

You cast the first stone of causing hurts for you Condemned The Innocent unjustly and without a Fair Trial which brought me in, (cos you also hurt me) in fulfilment of the Law of "Do unto others what you want them to do unto you".

You gave hurt, I come or Someone else Comes to give you hurt to for we are not like God, Who is even More Long Suffering, Very Enduring and Slow to Come BUT NOT I and my fellow men.

But in the spirit of "Love" and "Reconciliation", I say "Sorry,"

Righteousness- "And he did what was right in the sight of the LORD".

Not your own Standard of Rightness in your eye or your fellow man's eye or anything's eye but God's Eye!

Holiness- State of being Always Always Righteous!

Truvel:
Righteousness & Holiness Goes Hand To Hand. A Righteous Man Is An Holy Man. An Holy Man Is A Righteous Man. However, D Righteousness Of God (by grace) Means Dat A Person Accepts Jesus As His Lord & Saviour & Do D Will Of God Or D Teachings Of Christ. Dis Is D Real Righteousness Opposed To Self-righteousness Or Righteousness By D Law.

AMENDMENT!

Righteousness is the Road that leads to Holiness. Holiness is the Destination of Righteousness.

Proverbs 12:28
"In the way of righteousness is life; and in the pathway thereof there is no death.

A Righteous man can be a Holy Man if he is Consistently Righteous whilst a Holy man is Always Righteous!

Now, Righteousness is Subjective (ranging from person to person) so therefore the question is who or by what Standard are we going to use to measure Righteousness? for to do Wickedness is joy and right to an evil man!

And this is where the Righteousness of God far exceeds every other reasonable standard of the Most Rightness That is Most Encompassing in Any Relevant Subject!

Nothing else and No One else Comes Close!

Darnley:
" and it means that the person lived for that length of time only "and he died." the same was said of Enoch in verse 23 to mean Enoch died after he lived for 365years.
Also,the phrase "he was not" mean to say he died.Ithen Matt.2:17-18 Bible say, "Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying,
In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not ".
The verses above speak of the infants that were killed by the order of king Herod in a way to kill Jesus.
The scripture say,they are not meaning they died.How then do people say, Enoch did not die.reading Hebrew 11:1-13 you will find out that from Abel vs4 to Sarah vs12 of the genealogy of faith die as stated in verse 13.Enoch is inclusive.
Bible also say Enoch was translated,but what does translated mean

The original Greek word for "translate" is metatithemi.According to Arndt-Gingrich's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, 1969 edition, the primary meaning is to "convey to another place . . . transfer" (p. 514).

The same Greek word is rendered "carried over" in Acts 7:16. Here we read that after Jacob died his body was "carried over"—transported, translated—to Sychem where he was buried! That's what your Bible says! Jacob was transported or translated to the place of burial!

the Greek word for "carried over" in Acts7:16 is the same Greek word for "translate" in Heb.11:5 I.e G3346
That is why Moses said that God took Enoch. God removed—translated—him so that he was not found. God took Enoch and buried him,just as He did to Moses.

Some believe,he was taken to heaven,but Jesus said, in Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Nairaland,I need your opinion for or against

Respectfully, as twisted as your header is, so twisted is your soul because you are searching for what is not missing.

Which further means that you do not accept what is in front of you so you are looking for another alternative.

Darnley:
In Genesis 5:22-24,
the bible say" And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.This statement has been misinterpreted to mean that Enoch did not died and was taken to heaven. But looking at the description of those who we believe died from verse 3 to 20 you will notice this expression "all his days" and it means that the person lived for that length of time only "and he died."

You are Wrong for Everyone Around Enoch BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER, THE BIBLE EXPRESSLY AND CLEARLY TELLS US, "THEY DIED"

BUT NOT ENOCH, WHERE THE BIBLE EXPRESSLY AND DIRECTLY TELLS THAT GOD TOOK him Only That we were not told how, unike Elijah's Taking.

Emusan:
Arrogant Maxmumu!

The lying liar!

I challenge you to provide where you said "Rebellion means CHALLENGE OF AUTHORITY" in any of your post on this thread

After he schooled of about the meaning of rebellion, you're now changing mouth that you said rebellion MEANS CHALLENGE OF AUTHORITY when you never mentioned that in the first place.

Thank you, for I did not plan to respond to his attempt at re-arguing what he failed miserably the first time.

Thank you.

MaxInDHouse:
He's just a noisemaker with nothing tangible to say than arguing blindly!

Obedient descendants of Adam will gain everlasting life through faith in Jesus Christ! John 3:16

See, you are not able to come up with any valid thing.

He who is sick and knows that he is sick, would take the help of a physician. But he who is sick and says he is not sick, his sickness shall remain with him.

It's your own soul you can do whatever you please with it, I have only discharged my duty owed the Lord, which you have rejected, as is your right.

mainetrix:
Hello... You're blabbing.

Bye! Thank you for Picking up the Attendance Register that fell down from the table!

I have always understood that wisdom is a very hard and high thing for a fool, so your lack of understanding, is not my fault!

AkinwaleJJ:
He's an attention seeker!
At first he couldn't grasp that all obedient descendants of Adam became adopted children of Jesus, then he didn't even know what rebellion means. That's how he'll continue jumping from one thing to another just to prove he's around

Ouch! How can anyone obtain attention in saying what I say? Are there not better attention grabbing things that can be done?

If you want to ridicule me for my opinions be bold and do so.

And to this end I STAND TO GIVE YOU N10K, IF YOU CAN SHOW IRREBUTABLE PROOF THAT GLOBALLY, THE ACCEPTED NATURAL MEANING OF REBELLION IN ACTION IS WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE AND NOT CHALLENGE OF AUTHORITY!

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MaxInDHouse:
So there is a difference between willful disobedience and challenge of authority!

I thought both connotes rebellion.

Hmmmmmmmm thank God for the gift of holy spirit, you can continue arguing blindly my guy, i've passed that stage!

Rule 18:15- The heart of the prudent getteth knowledge; and the ear of the wise seeketh knowledge.

Rebellion includes willful disobedience (And More) BUT NOT ALL wilful disobediences are rebellion.

A Rebel Who Obeys Is Still A Rebel.

A Person who Willfully Disobeys Is Not Always A Rebel, like my seatbelt illustration above.

Which is why you are silent on it and unable to rebut it.

The two or three do not mean the same thing else "Disobedience", "Willful Disobedience" (As you cunningly stretched it to mean) and "Rebellion" would not be created since "willful disobedience" has taken care of"Disobedience" and "Rebellion".

Generally,
Understanding=Knowledge. In the case of a person who loves knowledge

A fool is one whose Understanding<Knowledge.

MaxInDHouse:
Rebellion simply means willful disobedience.

Ah! Where everyone knows that "Rebellion" means to Challenge Authority, you have given it your own meaning so as to adapt it to suit your own purposes.

Having wrongfully modified its Natural Meaning why would you not get a wrong answer? Consider this, everyone knows and understands that 2+2=(4). If I modify any item there whether the 2 or the plus or equals sign, would it still be 2+2= (The Truth)?

So by your modified meaning therefore, Every Time I willfully do not drive with my seatbelt, I should be killed for Rebellion? (Since Willful Disobedience now has the same meaning with Rebellion which is a Treason!).

MaxInDHouse:
Acoording to God's word, Adam wasn't ignorant nor reckless with his decision to have eaten the forbidden fruit, he willfully disobeyed his heavenly father {1Timothy 2:14} unlike the woman who was inexperienced Adam knew the consequences of his action because God's warning regarding the forbidden fruit wasn't given to the two as a couple, Adam inculcated all what his heavenly father commanded in the mind of the last creature (Eve).
So Rebellion is what we call it Sir, not ignorance!

You were not in the Court to hear that matter and neither were you the one who passed Judgment on it

The One Who Heard the case and Gave Judgement on it, has opened the Judgment He entered for you to see, yet you are installing what is not in the judgment! Ok oh!

I hold your judgement today "Willful Disobedience means Rebellion" in the Dictionary of Maxindhouse.

Uyi168:
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Isaiah 45:7 completely disagrees with u..

The Favourite Spot where Everyone thinks that "Maybe God could be weak here".

Because people seek and desire to Accuse God with an Allegation of Doing Wrong, (Meanwhile, you Refuse to Give Him His Natural Right of Presumption of innocence Until PROVEN GUILTY!) therefore, you do not see the word "Create".

You fail to enquire why did He Create evil (Since He is Good unless of course you have Presumed Him wicked) and what could be His Good (unless of course you have Presumed Him wicked) purpose of creating evil?

Anyway this is not the issue now BUT About God Peemiting the Doing of Evil by the man.

And Isaiah you presented above did not say "oh ye, men go into all the earth and do evil, one to another. I the Lord Command it"

I have never seen a case "I create" can be construed or even misconstrued to mean "You are Permited".

Eg Mr Toyoda created the Camry, therefore, it means that every Kazeem, Sule and Kamoru can pick it up at their pleasure to drive. No be born we go burn am because say na thief dem be?

MaxInDHouse:
He gave birth to Abel Sir and Abel's name has been written in God's memory book {Hebrew 11:4} so Adam is capable of bearing obedient children.

Abel, Sweet Abel, if you had chosen Abel, I would not have objected for Abel is Not Adam even though he sired him, same for Jesse and David, Also was David different from Solomon.

They were a Graft as Agriculturist say or Implantation as the Fertility People shall say but They are not the fruit of the Tree!

MaxInDHouse:
Adam chose to rebel against God on his own but since we all have freewill, Abel (Adam's descendants) chose to search for God with all his heart!

See, why you fall exams by Imputing your own answer when you were instructed to Read the Passage and Answer the question put forth to you, FROM THE PASSAGE!

Did God, Who judged the matter, Not Clearly Say

"Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it:"

Is this rebellion? Does disobedience and wrongful loving, mean rebellion.

Please check every explanation of rebellion out there and see if it could ever be streched to mean ignorant and reckless disobedience.

Tboyfrosh123:
so don't you hear the tales of people who died and wake again pls think before quoting bible

Aha, are you of unsound mind? (Not insulting just trying to ascertain your mental state)

The issue is he is saying that people shall die and go to nothingness citing Adam in Spit and Spite of what God, Who Himself Shall Handle the Matter and not him has Expressly Said and Declared that All Who Sin Shall be thrown into the Lake of Fire, which is what I am telling him, now you are talking about dying and waking up and I know that they die again and shall die again and this time they would not wake up to record that they died twice and shall never die again, so please tell me how is this connected to the Issue at hand?

MaxInDHouse:
Obedient descendants of Adam will possess the earth forever!

Psalms 37:7-11,29; 67:6; Proverbs 2:20-22; Isaiah 35:5-6; 65:21-25

Do you imagine that the descendants of Adam shall be obedient? Shall they not be as their father? Can an evil Tree bear good fruit?

Ok O, while Adam is your father, mine is Noah. Since God Rejected and Deleted him and his descendants (you still remain? Some One is may say "Lord there is one Adamson here oh" therefore, i too, De-fathered and unathered him.

Amatarasha:
I didn't lose my dear , u aren't sounding serious that's y I loathe u

No, bitterheart, All Satanas and Satansons howl, lament and curse and Must do so Everytime they lose as you have done!.

Oshoooo:
Just wondering while the owner will refuse to take care of 'his thing' if he wants to meet it in good condition. I'm totally fücked damn. Life sucks

Do you not leave your phone, car and laptops in the hands of other people?

If and when they do not take care of it, Now, you are the most powerful Person, pray tell what are the things you can do to such a Person who has damaged your iPhone 11, your Benz or your Stealth MacBook Pro Laptop?

phelonrays:


haha

you are so ignorant to reply with this dumb line...

Factly; you are not worthy to bear a christian tag

If the Bible did say it, you would have happily presented it here just to ridicule me.

Now you ridicule me, yet you brought Nothing.

Saying that it is contained in the Bible, would not put it in there.

Since you did not present it, or it is not possible for you to present it you therefore have Nothing to Show and are therefore a Liar.

Amatarasha:
sorry u bore me with ur ignorance /lying heart .
I discuss with humans with 120/250 knowledge/sincerity not you with 48/95,
Though mine is 507,000/1,4000,5000

Go and learn sincerity first
Goodbye dear

When a child loses, she always cry saying "I won't play again" or "go away, I won't play with you"

Kobojunkiee:
You still have your eyes closed to what is right in front of you for some reason.

Through whom did the curse of Sin and Death come on mankind? It was through Adam. Adam was the first to sin, and through Him the curse was placed on all mankind. We were condemned since then to die in our sins. That is the wages of sin that is spoken of in the Bible.

In Ezekiel 18, God swore by His name that in fact "the soul that sins will be the one to die" reaffirming that which He has penalty He had placed on human kind from the beginning.

Jesus Christ is not the bringer of death for anyone to suggest that with Him came death to anyone. On the contrary, He brought life of the eternal kind to a world that was wrought by death and lots of it too.

As for you claim that "eternal death" means "to perish". When God decreed that Adam would die and be returned to the dust from whence He came, were you of the mind that God was pronouncing some sort of temporary death on Adam and his descendants? Man was condemned to die(perish) for his sins from the beginning.

Death has always meant eternal death from the beginning. Only when Jesus Christ came into the picture did He remove the power of death over those who accept Him --- giving them eternal life. Jesus Christ came to save mankind from condemnation, not to condemn mankind. So, there is no way that Jesus Christ could have come with the promise of eternal death.

Certainly, you are JW, this was the same position maximus69 and other JWs raised up but none could sustain.

No wonder the love and desire for wishful thinking and stubbornness.

If the wishes of men changed the world, Buhari would be dead and fuel would be N1 per litre!

Kobojunkie:
... So, damnation(in hell) of the eternal kind is not death at all. For to be punished for eternity, one is assumed to be awake for the punishement, right?

From David, the Bible tells us that[b], what we call death, is a sleeping[/b] "So David slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David" 1kings 2:10.

Solomon, Rehoboam, Asa King of Judah etc

Christ Further Confirm that we die not when He Said in the Jarius Daughter's Case "Weep Not: She is not dead, but sleepeth" Luke 8:55

He Repeated it Again in the case of Lazarus. John 11:11-14

11 "These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.

13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.

14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

But would you hear what the Lord Clearly said? Whose Report would you believe? The report of yourself via your deductions or the Report of the Lord?

I wonder who shall Prevail!

Come to think of it, are ye an undeclared member of the Jws?

phelonrays:
But the 'Bible' says He did permit...

The Bible did not!

Amatarasha:
am a human now just 22years old ,y am here in nairaland is that i, some gods and my mother has been bringing people out from hellfire your christian god kept for u and your brothers anonymously , the more we save humans from Yahweh ( who we call Satan ) d more u enter ,
He uses Religion to trap u into his firekingdom ever since Jesus died on d cross, if I don't create d awareness Africans will remain backward on earth due to fearfulness resulting from Religion several rules and still get burnt in a fire they don't know about

We live in a Lying, Scheming, Deceitful world Solely Orchestrated and Controlled by men in all things whether Law, govt, Calendar, Time, Marriage and Common Behaviour.

God Once, Killed all them for our sakes, that we should dwell with joy, happiness, peace and prosperity, but man loved Wickedness once again.

Your primary enemy is yourself for you love wickedness rather than kindness.

And having planted Wickedness, man must harvest the fruits of Wickedness which is Desolution, Destruction, Murder, Stealing, Cheating etc

All these things done by man, from himself to his fellow man and everyone crying with no one to console them.

It is not the fault of the Lord, BUT THE FAULT AND DOING OF EVERY MAN, for every man is doing the same Wickedness, one to another, turn by turn.

Amatarasha:
Please you are a million times righteous than Jesus

If I am righteous, I Learnt It From Him, Which Means He is Righteouser!

Amatarasha:
, if u say no that means u will like fulani herdsmen to come to ur land to kill ur people n take ur land while dey rain multiple fire from d sky upon u,because that's wat my brother did with d isrealites in ur old testament that made middle East terrible till date,
Like fulani came to land to kill u n take ur land n someone recorded it ,then u read it after 4000yrs and u are shouting our Lord is great!

Open your eyes n see what I tell u ,he is joshua

Fulanis got to my village and did their wickedness there, so I very much hate them, so do I hate the kidnapper, Liars, Theives, Governors, Presidents, Senators etc, all these people do bad because they love the profits of wicked works even where they do not want it done to them.

I see that people love to do Wickedness and evil like the Policeman who Shot A 19-Year-Old Barber Dead In Abuja

"the trigger-happy police officer allegedly stormed the community with threats of killing one or two people, and fired a gunshot into the air"

How can any right thinking person say that The Lord did this?

Kobojunkie:
Eternal punishment is laid out only for those who believe, and not to those who do not believe. See, only those who believe can have eternal life to even spend eternity anywhere.

You are not the Judge, you are not the one who is going to judge the matter, you are not a clerk of the Judge (even they never know how a judge will decide a matter), The Judge will not be taking counsel from you, So kindly Shut Your Speakers!

Kobojunkie:
Learn to stick to the subject at hand!

I am on the subject at hand oh ye Peverter of understanding for the subject matter at hand is about the Express Word of the Lord that All Who Do Wrong shall be Imprisoned in the Lake of Fire AS AGAINST, you saying by the use of your own deduction, Presenting your own wishful thinking and then Attempting to Input and Pin On The Lord, That Which He did not say, and Furthert representing that The Lord Said it and that it is the Lord's Plan for erring souls.

That is the Subject Matter!

hakeem4:
Nope. Why should i believe in the supposed creator just because of eternal punishment which i do not believe?

This is another form of pascal wagers. Just believe in him; what if you are wrong?

What if you are wrong about allah, or vishnu, or the god of war?

We are not Wrong because IT IS SEEN THAT ONLY GOOD THINGS ARE ALLOWED AND THAT ALL BAD THINGS ARE NOT ALLOWED!

EVEN BAD PEOPLE DO NOT ACCEPT BAD THINGS WHEN GIVEN TO THEM.

THEREFORE, HE WHO IS GOOD, MUST HATE TO SEE THE BAD THINGS IN HIS HOUSE (WORLD) AND MUST NECESSARILY COME, TO DEAL WITH THEM ALL, VERY HOTLY!

Kobojunkie:
I do know because I know that God does not lie

While God can not lie, you lie.

And this answer does not in any way counter the Express Word Of The Lord that He, Having Authority and Rule over Souls, shall Exercise His Authority of Dealing with Souls in Such a Manner as He Deems Fit, Which He Has Decided that such Must Be Incarcerated in the Incinerator of the Lake of Fire!

And This He Who Rules, has Clearly and Expressly said that He Shall Do!

Therefore, you seek to make the Lord a liar for saying that which is not True rather than you being the liar for saying that which is not True.

Amatarasha:
u are calling yourself a sinner because Jesus said so ,aren't you?

I am a sinner or a wrongdoer because I do that which is wrong.

And even if The Lord did not tell me, I saw and Knew that what I did was Wrong and My fellowmen also told me that "I was not good".

Amatarasha:
If I start telling u who really Jesus is as someone who knew him billion years ago n a reincarnated goddess of earth ,u will runaway from me like others.....am just holding myself greatly cos u are just a mere human

in other words, you are the world's oldest woman alive. No wait a minute, you are even older than the world.

If you were truly the oldest Person, you will not be on Nairaland but somewhere else

So you are just Liar come to fulfill the Prophecy of Great Insults Hurled and Howled at God!

phelonrays:
[sub][/sub]
But he permit it right?

No He Did Not! But it is you who invited them to your house, opened the door to them and accepted their "presents".

When you hold fire in your hand, you Must be Burnt!

It can not be anyone's fault that you carried fire in your hands.

jesusjnr2020:
If yes, why fear death so much, that you'd immediately abandon atheism and accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior just because of it, but not fear Him who is able to bring much worse to you than death which the same Christ said we should fear instead?

Luke 12:4-5 (KJV)

And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Or is it because He is patient with you, and doesn't immediately make your life feel threatened as those you fear most would, if not perhaps you'd also fear Him?

There's surely a worst death than the death you fear most even if you may not know it.

Don't wait til you die to discover this Truth because by then it would be too late to do anything about it.

A word is enough for the wise.

This is Not a Good Post! Smh

See what you have caused!

Amatarasha:
That's y I see atheist as confused idiots most of them will either accept Christ the liar at their death bed or accept Christ through a well shaped bottom bornagain ladies!