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KNOWMORE56:
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"I'll be merciful to whom I'll be merciful" does not apply in this regard.

What I'm saying is that God has not said to anybody, anywhere and at anytime that

"you, weather you like it or not you must go to heaven"....

And He will Never Say So! Hence the great importance of Judgment, which shall send a person to either the Kingdom of God or to hell/lake of fire.

But Not Both!

johnw47:
God go with you

And Also with you!

johnw47:
you still confused and lying mutt
he didn't say: "I have to walk ... like Enoch ..."
he said about his walk with the Lord: "Preferably like Enoch"

see how i was right when i called you: "twister and know all nothing"

Thank you John. It is Exactly what I said and I meant to say but because he is evil and studieth destruction, his lips (or fingers in this case) speak mischief and lyings and pervertings (Twistings).

People are already condemned for doing these things not to even add the case of homosexuality, which makes him seek to attack me at any given opportunity.

But as it is Written "doth not He that pondereth the heart consider it? and He that keepeth thy soul, doth not He know it? and shall not He render to every man according to his works?"

I know that it is The Lord that he is fighting with and not I, so I say not much on this matter and I do not really wish to make any further comments on it.

I have told Muttley severally that he has the right to excercise his discretion to refuse to accept my assertion without any consequence from me, yet like the dog, he won't let go, so I go!

johnw47:
mutt
he never said that, twister and know all nothing

Thank you johnw47, for coming to my aid for I fully appreciate it. I thank The Lord for you in not saying to the Wicked, "thou art righteous", but rebuked him.

The Lord shall give thee a good blessing as it is Written!

Darnley:
Dtruthspeaker,I want to thank you for your contribution to this thread.however,next time try to coined your word when you talk about God.What make you described God as a guy and very very dangerous?
please and please, it is not good.
That a man offend God and didn't ask for mercy nor repent, even though, he has been given a long opportunity to do so and was now punish by God, does not make God to be very very dangerous.God is lovely and merciful father

Oh, But I respectfully think and know that the Dread of The Lord is A Very Very Vital Ingredient for the Acquisition of Life In Christ Jesus.

As He Warned, "...Fear Him who after He hath killed, Hath Power To ... (Do whatever He Likes, Again and Again and Again and...)"

After having Feared, then you would be able Appreciate His Very Long Patience and Very Long Suffering and Quiet Admonishing and Kindness and Mercy and Forgiveness and Goodness and Love and Perfectly Sound, Fair and Equal Judgement.

Thereafter you would come to love Him for NOW YOU TRULY SEE AND ARE A FIRST HAND WITNESS THAT HE IS GREATER THAN GOOD And Worth Living With And If Necessary, Dying For!

MuttleyLaff:
The usual disconnect comment(s) again being made
Show where scripture said you should walk like Enoch, lmso

What else is the meaning of example or recommendation if one is not encouraged to do "likewise"?

But I know you know this, you only desire to have the last word, so, enjoy.

OpenYourEyes1:
"His fuel ran out..." isn't part of the original post. Just added that to compare what I mean (in the original post you disagreed with) with *an example* of a thing that happens occasionally in life.
Lots of people sometimes forget to have adequate fuel in their car before traveling long journey. A passersby who knows what happened to such car when he/she find it on the expressway could wonder what I highlighted in the asterisks: "His fuel ran out on the expressway half way to the journey, seems he was unprepared for the journey". The *seems* is not me wondering. It's the passerby wondering.

So, the virgins prepared for the coming of JESUS but half didn't prepare with adequate oil just incase JESUS didn't come when they were expecting.

I agree that it was not sufficient but I think the principal lesson here is that many would desire to be with The Lord and attempt to follow Him, they would however fall

Martian:
Yes, he who made the anus also made the large intestine. Many are gonna die indeed!

Oh! Yeah!

MuttleyLaff:
You can continue in all this your shenanigans until the cows come home, your crooked sticks, still will never be straightened, no matter how much hard, you sotay, try trimming and shaving them by proof-texting with the bible, lmso.

You at least got the part right, that the Lord owns your heart and your everything, but except you and any cohort on this thread repent, your souls are destined for damnation and annihilation. Dont say youse weren't warned!

Ordinarily, I am very protective of my precious time, and prefer to prioritise what I used my precious time for, but though I knew, you're nothing other than a precious time stealer, precious time waster and precious time killer, all rolled into one, I, from a point of sense of duty, have allowed you enough of my precious, invaluable and priceless time, but right now, you have my blessing to wallow in your ignorance and enjoy taking delight in squandering your God given potentials, lmso, since engaging you is a chronomicide, on my part

As I had said earlier, the conclusion of the matter is that Enoch's Well-Doing in Walking with The Lord is not Mine to receive just as Koran and co's rebellion, is not Mine.

I have to Walk with The Lord Preferably like Enoch and Others who Delighted The Lord, which I very much love to do and not like Korah, who found His Displeasure, mi o fe!

iamblisz:
Hi guys.
Pls I need a dream interpreter or someone who have experience such dream like me,
I have been having series of dream where I normally sing gospel songs , in that dream am also thought how to sing new songs I have never heard before but when I wake up I won't be able to remember any of this songs. Anyone who can help me translate it?

Thanks in advance


HAPPY SUNDAY TO YOU ALL

Lalasticlala, Mynd44

Haven't you heard that it is Written "He Put A New Song in my heart"?

Rejoice! For the Lord is near unto thee, Quickly Draw Near Unto Him lest He Departs from you and Stay There!

ThetrueWord:
The New Testament does not say anything about whether or not a believer in Jesus Christ should get a tattoo. Therefore, we cannot say that getting a tattoo is a sin. Because of Scripture’s silence, getting inked falls under the category of a “gray area,” and believers should follow their convictions in the matter, respecting those who may have different convictions.

Here are some general biblical principles that may apply to getting a tattoo:

◦ Children are to honor and obey their parents (Ephesians 6:1–2). For a minor to get a tattoo in violation of his or her parents’ wishes is biblically unsupportable. Tattoos born of rebellion are sinful.

◦ “Outward adornment” is not as important as the development of the “inner self” and should not be the focus of a Christian (1 Peter 3:3–4). A person who desires a tattoo to garner attention or draw admiration has a vain, sinful focus on self.

◦ God sees the heart, and our motivation for anything we do should be to glorify God (1 Corinthians 10:31). Motivations for getting a tattoo such as “to fit in,” “to stand out,” etc., fall short of the glory of God. The tattoo itself may not be a sin, but the motivation in getting it might be.

◦ Our bodies, as well as our souls, have been redeemed and belong to God. The believer’s body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19–20). How much modification of that temple is appropriate? Is there a line that should not be crossed? Is there a point at which the proliferation of tattoos on one body ceases to be art and starts becoming sinful mutilation? This should be a matter of individual reflection and honest prayer.

◦ We are Christ’s ambassadors, delivering God’s message to the world (2 Corinthians 5:20). What message does the tattoo send, and will it aid or detract from representing Christ and sharing the gospel?

◦ Whatever does not come from faith is sin (Romans 14:23), so the person getting the tattoo should be fully convinced that it is God’s will for him or her.

We cannot leave the discussion of tattoos without looking at the Old Testament law that prohibited tattoos: “Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28). The reason for the prohibition of tattoos in this passage is not stated, but it is likely that tattooing was a pagan practice connected with idolatry and superstition. It was probably common for the pagans to mark their skin with the name of a false god or with a symbol honoring some idol. God demanded that His children be different. As He reminded them in the same verse, “I am the LORD.” The Israelites belonged to Him; they were His workmanship, and they should not bear the name of a false god on their bodies. While New Testament believers are not under the Mosaic Law, however, the old testament is not abolished but the new testament is to fulfill it.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Matthew 5:17

So! Is getting tatoos on the body not a sin?

Did He Who Made the Outside body not make the Inside?

All because you wish to cut and paste the Word of The Lord!

Men, many are gonna die!

Hier:
The question is, why did God create us?

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


Dominion was the reason why God created us. God created us so we would have dominion, dominion over everything He has created i.e. to RULE

WRONG!

What is in the Mind of Every Creator when He Creates?

Answer - if it is not solve a problem, then it is for Pleasure eg football, table tennis,

A Creator creates because it Pleases Him to Create and that which is created, is supposed to please Him.

Eg. Certainly when the iPhone was finished, it pleased Steve Jobs else, he would have surely Destroyed It!

We are Created Because It Pleased God to Create Us and we Pleased Him After He Created Us.

But when we Stop Pleasing Him... you already know!

Lying is for the weak! Eg Children and sons of the-evil!

If you are Truly Aligned with The Holy One, then You Have No Reason to Lie.

Just one of us can put a thousand to flight
And two of us can send the legions fleeing
Just one of us can put a thousand to flight
And two of us can rout evil principalities

O there are many of us here
Exalting the name of the Lord
And in his name we declare
Our victory in spiritual war
We bind the powers of the air
By wielding the Word as our sword

Over princes and powers
Jesus gave authority
We raise our voice with a shout
He has won the victory

One of Us- Bob Fitts

They that Walk with the Lord have No Reason to Lie!

poetictwenty:
Have you at any point pondered on the parable of Jesus in Mathew 22:1-14

Before the king gave order for the man without garment to be caste into everlasting darkness, he first questioned him.
He asked him to give reasons why he was not on his wedding garment. But the man was silent, having no reason for his actions.
As I ponder on this parable, I was able to draw an analogy between the scenario in this parable and the last day, which to me was what Jesus spoke about in the parable.
The king asked the man to defend his actions and by so doing, convince him(God) that his actions was right. But the man chose to be silent, which means he had no reason for appearing the way he was.
This same question will be thrown at us on the judgment Day,. And I pray we will be able to convince the creator and prove to him that our actions on Earth was right.
Some Christians believe that drinking of alcohol will take one to hell, because it is a sin, While others believe it will not because it is biblically acceptable.
Whatever we do on Earth, we should have a reason for doing it . Not just a reason but one that will convince our creator on our judgment Day. little wonder the Bible chose to call it "Judgment Day, in the court of the most High".
We should have a reason why we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or Atheist. Because we all will be asked to defend ourselves. I hope will won’t be silent like that man in the parable.
Ohuche Joseph ogbonna

It is better to stand silent than to offer up a bad reason.

Smart, yet, that did not Stop What his Consequence from coming to him.

Kobojunkiee:
That is a bloody lie!

see vex!

I know you will not answer me but I had to ask, which is the Lie?

Is it a part or the whole?

And why is the Lie a lie? (And please do not forget to disclose your own Truth, so that can examine them all)

A Mirror is Useless to he who is Blind!

So also is The Word of God, to he who loves his wickedness!

OpenYourEyes1:
Read my post again, you will understand what I mean by "they were unprepared"

This^ should have taught you what I mean by "unprepared", but you probably focused on particular section of my post and ignore the other(ignore = you saw it but didn't point it out. Not that you didn't see/read it)

*His fuel ran out on the expressway half way to the journey, seems he was unprepared for the journey*

I was just demanding for a fair Judgement to be given, for as you said,

"His fuel ran out on the expressway half way to the journey, seems he was unprepared for the journey*"

And you used the word "seem" meaning you are not certain.

And this is the Certainty, diligent people do plan their Journeys, But, Many Many Things Interfere with the journey, which without the Strength of The Lord, that journey will not be Successfully Completed.

I believe that one of the Lessons of the Parable is that we would require the Strength of The Lord to Complete the journey.

AyewohGospel:
Truth be told I respect your point of view. I am not an atheist and at the same time I don't even know what I truly believe Anymore. I go to church on Sundays and cry every time the worship comes on, promising myself to not go back to my old ways Still I end up The same way I was before I go to church. Am I evil ?

Do you do Any Wickedness?

Then, you know the answer to your question "Are you evil?"

Omooba77:
Because All men have short memory and forget so easily.

Thinking that by their forgetting, they shall be free from the hold of the lessons of the past and think that they are Blameless and Pure and Different!

Omooba77:
Samuel saw the error of Eli, David did not trained his children.
Sodom and Gomarah did not take heed.

Samuel and David Taught their children but they did not listen as is their God-Given Right!

A Mirror is Useless to he who is Blind!

So also is The Word of God, to he who loves his wickedness!

Think Holy and Pure and Good and Right Things!
Philippians 4:8

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are True, whatsoever things are Honest, whatsoever things are Just, whatsoever things are Pure, whatsoever things are Lovely, whatsoever things are of Good Report; if there be Any virtue, and if there be any Praise, Think on These Things."

MuttleyLaff:
Truth is strong enough to overcome all your clever by half human sophistries.

See, you do not know what Truth is! Truth is not strong enough, you have disrespected and short changed it.

It is The Great Power of God.Psalm 119:1 and 142.

Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the Lord.

and thy law is The Truth.

It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one title of the Law to fail. Luke 16:17

MuttleyLaff:
You know enough to think you’re right, but not enough to know how wrong you are on the several accounts, you've been caught slipping up, lmso

I am Right but as it is Written "they shall not hear"

MuttleyLaff:
Oftentimes, it’s just good enough to plant the seed, walk away and let the germinated seed's plant and its flower grow on their own. Sooner or latter, with the right and favourable elements you'll have a epiphany apple dropped moment

The Lord owns my heart and my everything, so no road!

Gilbertkwabena:
YOU ARE IN SERIOUS DELUSION. I WILL HOPE ONE DAY YOUR EYES WILL BE OPEN.

JUST READ YOUR ANSWERS AND SEE HOW DISHONEST, BLIND DEFENDING AND IGNORANT IT IS.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AGAIN. THINK OUTSIDE THE CIRCLE YOU HAVE BEEN PUT AND U WILL SEE HOW MUCH YOU BEEN FOOLED.

YOU CASE IS LIKE A CHILD WHO ALWAYS THINKS HIS FATHER'S FARM IS D LARGEST BCUZ HE HASN'T SEEN OTHER PEOPLE'S FARM... TAKE A TOUR ROUND AND LEARN OF LIFE AND LOOK AT REALITY WITH AN OPEN MIND THEN YOU WOULD SEE HOW GULLIBLE UVE BEEN.

BYE MAN. Hopin you see the light some day.

Ah! And There is the Devil. "Don't worry boy I get you out!" *In Thor's voice*

MuttleyLaff:
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Need I say more.

Just as I thought, that the brain, as far as you're concerned, is an ornament to decorate your body and head with, and so, you've to to the terms that you are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift, for no purpose, for no reason(s) and not for such a time(s) as this/these, but to use it, to cowardly cop out of answering easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions with. This is the beauty of the gift of freewill, so feel free to underuse your brain, thank you very much, lmso. OK?

The irony is you are as stupid as you look. By yourself are you walking into ditches without so much as being led by anyone. What a travesty of realities. Smh sigh

Discoveries would have been made from you answering questions put before you and advances would have been made by you answering every one of the easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions asked and not you dodging, ducking and diving away from answering the questions. Why you feel intimidated by them easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions is baffling.

Spare us all these tired old cliché banalities

You are so far right up in your rear ed, you need to come out it, to see the light, the light of the day

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This man again is at it.

"And you should not be afraid of those killing the body but not being able to kill the soul.
Indeed rather you should fear the One being able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna."
- Matthew 10:28

Look at you make another boo-boo, claiming that the God made the soul to be eternal, smh

Let me come down to your level. Give one or two words, for the name of this "Beyond the Territories of the earth which are in and within The Kingdom/Domain of God!" sic is called, that you believe "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" is in. Please bring up scripture verse(s) to back up what your one word or two words answer is, with. Thank you in advance for complying, lmso

You're boko. You're a fraud, if you aren't you would know what is your rights permissible and within understanding of Proverbs 25:2

You know nothing about Permissible Rights. But it's fine!

MuttleyLaff:
What is easier to do? Give your response to the asked question or to wail, bleat and give a "Bros oh, you are asking the wrong person oh! I have No Power to Appoint who shall be Taken and who shall not be Taken at all, for there to be a reoccurrence. Abeg oh, I do not Determine these things" reply. Smh sigh.

I will not go outside and beyond my jurisdiction. It would be ultra vires and unlawful to do so.

MuttleyLaff:
What a right load of hay stacks of codswallop. I bet you wouldnt know the relevance of those four easy, simple, direct, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions, as you dont want your illusion to be destroyed from realising the truth, lmso.

D "innocent", indeed! I refuse to be stupid enough to let the blind, lead me.

MuttleyLaff:
Since you still want to enjoy perpetuating the export of false information please feel free to be my guest at doing just that. I am not on this thread responding because of you but only for the sake of those you might mislead with ignorant ill-informed, undereducated Bible knowledge and bad theology

And I stand upon the Truth of The Lord and you have still not rebutted, you are only saying that I am not correct and asking further questions as to the depths of my assertion, which I have answered, only further shows the Strength of my Assertion.

And you still could not rebut it nor go over it as The Things of The Lord "It's So High That You Can Never Get Over It, It's So Low, You Can Never Get Under It, It's So Wide You Can Never Get Around it, it's so Strong, You Can Never Get Through it!

So simply saying that I am wrong is not a Rebuttal!

MuttleyLaff:
"So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
(i.e. Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years or so Enoch's life lasted 365 years)"
- Genesis 5:23

Did you skip English language and grammar lessons when in school ni. When you say "...He Lives!", this proves you lost focus, even before any form of question is asked you, because the word "lived" carries an interpretation that means the whole days someone was alive or the whole days someone lived.

There is no question, all there is there, is that Enoch, just as we all human beings do physically die, he too, died after 365 years on the face of the earth. Period. Unlike the other patriarchs who lived circa 800 to almost 1000 years, it was only Enoch whose life was cut short by dying at a young age of 365 years in comparison to others' ages in the biblical time line history

what a narrow mind. A whole soul, that The Lord made to be eternal, and you think it right to reduce it to a few miserly years on earth. Ok oh, it is your right.

MuttleyLaff:
Here you go again waffling stuff and nonsense, pretending that you really know the subject you're talking on, but when I lean on you and breath down neck, you uncomfortably wince, make a run for it, give some lame and flimsy excuse for not answering easy, simple, harmless, innocent, point-blank and straightforward questions directly asked you

Now watch this and see how you won't disappoint me from not giving your responses to the following questions, lmso:
1/ What physically is God's form?
2/ Is God contained in form?

oh from bad to worse! Ok oh!

MuttleyLaff:
3/ You typed that "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" then you follow on, added "Where?" with you answering with: "Beyond the Territories of the earth which are in and within The Kingdom/Domain of God!," so I hereby, now again, for the umpteen time re-ask you:
What is the name of this "Beyond the Territories of the earth which are in and within The Kingdom/Domain of God!" sic called that you believe "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" is in, please bring up scripture verse(s) to back up your answer with. Thank you in advance for complying, lmso

I have answered you but you did not want it, as is your right.

MuttleyLaff:
I dont need to ponder on anything that I already know, as you can see from me asking you those first two questions above. if the throne is a section of a palace, (i.e. in heaven) and a footstool is a foot rest (i.e. on earth), imagine the extent of the palace, talkless the extent of the kingdom, but I aren't at all, interested in talking in talking about them lot, but all along have only been interested in telling me what is/are the name(s) of the place called, that according to the best of your knowledge and understanding where Enoch is, going by your submission that "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" The place where Enoch is, should have a name, wouldnt it and you as intelligent and well-informed as you like portraying yourself to be, ought to know what the Bible specially, particularly and specifically calls this place?

And this is where you are really funny in insisting I tell you that which is not mine!

I know my bounds and I do not intend to ever break it. It is not my place.

MuttleyLaff:
If by your insistent ignorance, "Enoch did not Die, He Lives!" sic, then answer the following:
1/ Why isn't there any reoccurrence of a human being not physically dying like Enoch according to you alleges didnt die but lives on, hmm

Bros oh, you are asking the wrong person oh! I have No Power to Appoint who shall be Taken and who shall not be Taken at all, for there to be a reoccurrence.

Abeg oh, I do not Determine these things.

MuttleyLaff:
2/ Who was Methuselah's father or what is Methuselah's father's name?
3/ What is the meaning of the Hebrew name Methuselah?
4/ Are you at all conversant or familiar with the "Methuselah genealogy flood" prophecy?
5/ After answering #2, 3 and 4 above, has the penny dropped yet for you, as of realising what death Enoch didnt die from, hmm?

I do not know the Relevance of these things and frankly I do not wish to know,Yeah, I Fear False Prophets well-well, so I do not go outside my KjV Bible, for that one, I know very well and I am very satisfied with the results I have obtained from it.

Since I am very Satisfied with All I have done to verify the Truthfulness of the KjV Bible, I seek not another.

Therefore, what is in the KjV, is Good and True, and I accept it and What isn't, I am very much fine to live without it and dispense with it.


"So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
(i.e. Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years or so Enoch's life lasted 365 years)"
- Genesis 5:23

MuttleyLaff:
You say "...He Lives!", yet Moshe aka Moses, who penned this information, tells us that Enoch lived a total of 365 years, meaning the entire lifetime of Enoch was 365 years, yet you in the most ignorant and falling foul of scripture hermeneutic and exegesis keep putting your foot in your mouth when you say Enoch did not physically die and make it worse, say he lives, when the only part of Enoch that lives, while awaiting the trumpet sound is his soul, as his body has long gone back to being dust, lmso

Do not lose focus of the question! The question is not "how long Enoch lived on the face of the earth" But whether he died after 365 years on the face of the earth

MuttleyLaff:
What is the name of this "Beyond the Territories of the earth which are in and within The Kingdom/Domain of God!" sic called, please bring up scripture verse(s) to back up your answer with. Thank you in advance for complying, lmso

You have to Ask The Owner and King of Those Territories, not I, for I do not own them, therefore I can not know their Names.

As to the Territories/Domain of God you already know that

1) "The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein." Psalm 24:1.

2) Isaiah 66:1 "Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool:

Let us put Aside the identifying of the Throne and look at the footstool.

I had explained it earlier in this manner.
"The Earth is God's Foot Stool, So Imagine How BIG, The House, (That Contains) The Foot Stool Must Be to Contain it. (Praises Be To God That we All know How "big" a foot stool is in proportion to a House, that is how small it really is).

And Footstools Are Kept Inside a House, when in use.

This is Also Where You Appreciate The Gravity of "In My Father's House, There are Many Mansions". John 14:2

Could you Ponder about how large a House must be to contain Many Mansion which contains a footstool?

Splinz:
The Bible says, "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good" 1 Thessalonians 5:21. Have you proven that Enoch did not die, that he lives? Are you sure?

If you are not satisfied with the Clear Oddity of the Report Surrounding his "Plucking", that is Before him it is stated "and he died, and he died and he died"

In his case, it was stated, "and he was not;" (did you ask the question why he was not?) And the Bible Answers, because, "God took him"

Then, the Bible again returned "and he died, and he died and he died"!

If this Unusual Event/Anomally is not Noteworthy, well it is your judgement and I do not have power to alter it, for i stand by what is there.

Splinz:
Whilst I understand that accepting glaring evidence that Enoch, like every other person died, could cause devastating blow to your probably 'heaven-bound or rapture' belief, but come on... This shouldn't be a problem to The Truth Speaker- a defender and one who speaks the truth. Right?

I intend to avoid all occasions of foolishness so I already know that Enoch's Living or Death, is not my Death, which I wish to Avoid At All Cost, So, save that he is a good example of how to walk with the Lord and Please Him, he has no connection with my death which I wish to avoid.

Therefore, Enoch's Dying, does not change anything in me just like his father Jared, Ma-halale-el and others, meant nothing to me.

Splinz:
Okay, so let's be like the Bereans, and "...find out whether these things were so" Acts 17:11.

Speaking of Enoch, the holy scripture says, "And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him" Genesis 5:24. Please take note of the italicized word- walked. Of course I wouldn't bored you with the definition. You're a learned person.

Now, here's what you're telling us in essence: you're saying that 'Enoch is walking with God'. But the bible says "Enoch walked". Does it mean we don't know our tenses again? Whose report shall we believe, yours or that of the scripture?

So then, if Enoch did not die and lives, he would still be walking (present tense) with God and not walked (past tense).

I have already presented my case above and I stand on it and I will not be saying anything beyond the scriptures, which I know and understand to be True.

I will not be adding to my statement just like I would not be adding to the Bible.

Splinz:
I'm sorry friend, you're spreading falsehood and not the truth.

Does this edifies anyone? I don't think so.

Many thanks.

I Spoke Only the Truth in my heart, to accept or reject it, is in your power, but I spoke the Truth!

paxonel:
is man producing good seeds that he should live?
The answer is no!

But has God give up on man?
The answer is no!

Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Matthew13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

So, God has not give up on man. Infact, he has already separated those who are bearing fruit from those who are not.[/quote]Then the meaning of the Parables are lost on you and you never appreciated Jeremiah 2:21

"Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?

paxonel:
we do not have power to determine that, everything is well spelt in the scriptures
if it so, it should reflect in the bible that he has said so, otherwise you are the one saying it.

It is Written 2 Peter 3
"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

I know this one would not be enough for you, so here is another


Revelation 20:11

“And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.”

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away

But I know you know all these, you just wish it would not happen.

Gilbertkwabena:
TRUTH INDEED DESTROYS LIES AND THAT'S WHY TILL DATE NONE OF YOU HAVE ANY PROVE JESUS,MOSES,ABRAHAM ND CO OUTSIDE THE BIBLE.

WHEN THERE IS ONE LIE TOLD, HUNDREDS OTHERS ARE TOLD TO COVER THAT LIE AND THAT IS CASE WITH YOU GUYS. ALL OF YOU HAVE TRIED SO FAR TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AND YET NO ONE IS ABLE TO ANSWER IT BCUZ THERE IS NO ANSWER TO A LIE... DID YOU SAY YOU ANSWERED IT? LOLS...
THE ONE YOU WERE JUST WRITING WITHOUT DIRECTION?

YOU SEE I DIDNT BORDER REPLYING CUZ IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ANY SENSIBLE PERSON.

Naaah! You've Changed Post and Changed The Question.

You Never Asked About "PROVE JESUS,MOSES,ABRAHAM ND CO OUTSIDE THE BIBLE. But you clearly Listed Out the 3 Questions in the beginning of your Post.

Gilbertkwabena:
HELLO U'LL DAT STILL BELIEVES IN THE LIES OF THE BIBLE AND QURAN... I HAVE JUST A FEW QUESTION TO YOU GUYS TODAY.

Q.1 WHERE WAS GOD IN THE BEGINNING IF HE CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH?

Q.2 WHO CREATED DARKNESS AND THE WATERS THAT IS MENTIONED IN VS2?

Q.3 WHAT LIGHT WAS GOD TALKING ABOUT(NOT THE MOON,STAR OR SUN), SO ITS WHAT?


LET'S TACKLE THIS FIRST. FEEL FREE TO ASK YOUR TOP PASTORS SINCE MOST OF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BIBLE OR QURAN.


NOTE: IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER... DON'T HIDE UNDER THE POPULAR CHRISTIAN ESCAPE ROUTE "U NEED THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO UNDERSTAND" OR "ITS A MYSTERY".

GOOD MORNING.

Nothing About PROVE JESUS,MOSES,ABRAHAM ND CO OUTSIDE THE BIBLE here.

Gilbertkwabena:
4TH.... U SAID THE THINGS WRITTEN IN IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT D GOD WHO CREATES U WOULD SAY? OKAY LETS LOOK AT FEW OF THEM.

A).. WOULD A GOD WHO CREATED EVERY BEING LOOK AT ONE LESSER THAN ANOTHER?

Please explain what you mean by this statement.

Gilbertkwabena:
THE BIBLE TEACHES DAT... GOD IN D BIBLE(JEHOVAH) SUPPORTED SLAVERY... HE ASKED D JEWS TO KILL ND ENSLAVE OTHERS HE CREATED...

This is a Lie and the Product of an Evil bible orchestrated to make you see God as Wicked rather than say the Truth of Who God is.

Gilbertkwabena:
D BIBLE SAID JERUSALEM OR D JEWS ARE FIRST CLASS ND U ND UR COUNTRY MEMBERS ARE 2ND CLASS...

Again evil Report not 1st Class but 1st Born.

Do we not have 1,2, 3, first borns and second borns, but are all not children, partaking in the goodness of the father?

Nothing unusual if you really want to say the Truth.

Gilbertkwabena:
B)... THE GOD IN THE BIBLE ALSO KILLED THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT SOULS TO PUNISH ONE WRONG MAN..

If I pee into your drinking pot, no matter how little or slight, You Will Certainly Destroy Both the Water and the Pot, wouldn't you? (if you would be True)

Gilbertkwabena:
THE KILLING OF ALL THE MEW BORN CHILDREN OF EGYPT(EVEN DOU ITS A FAKE STORY...HAVING NO HISTORICAL PROOF

Would you give good rewards to your enemies? If your housegirl enslaves your children shall you reward her with a car? (Again, if you say the Truth)

Gilbertkwabena:
C)... WOULD D GOD WHO CREATE U INTO A POOR FAMILY PUNISH U FOR NOT BEING RICH

You already know that this is not True!

Gilbertkwabena:
THAT'S D CASE OF D BIBLE...WHERE JEHOVAH SAID ALL DOSE WHO WILL NOT FOLLOW HIM WILL BE PUNISHED...FUNNY ENOUGH NONE O USE CHOOSE WHERE WE WANT TO BE BORN TO. THOSE BORN IN SAUDI AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES A MUSLIM, JAPAN BECOMES SHITO,KOREA BUDDHA, DOSE IN FOREST WHERE UR HUMAN HAS EXPLORED YET ARE SPIRITUAL PEOPLE.... THINK ABOUT IT, WOULD THE ONE WHO CREATES US DO THIS?

It is not about following Him BUT About Avoiding The Consequence Of Your Continuous Planting OF Wickedness and Evil For It is The Law That "A Good Tree Must Bear Good Fruits and An Evil Tree Must Bear very wicked fruits like A Mango Tree can Never bear Grapes.

Gilbertkwabena:
D)...WOULD D GOD WHO CREATES EARTH WITH ERROR WRITE A BOOK WITH SO MANY ERRORS, INCONSISTENCE AND INCOHERENCE?

There are no errors and inconsistencies Only The Lies and Conjectures told by many of your teachers, which you now for this purposes have accepted but at Another time, you will reject, As Proven Above.

So, tell me who is being inconsistent now, if it is not you?

Gilbertkwabena:
JUST LOOK AT HOW DIVIDED CHRISTIANS ARE BCUZ OF THE BIBLE... EVERYONE HAS THEIR UNDERSTANDING BCUZ OF THE ERRORS,INCONSISTENCE ND INCOHERENT IN IT... A CHRISTIAN IN DIS SECTION JUST SAID ALL OF U WHO DOESN'T BELONG TO HIS SECT(J.W) ARE GOING TO HELL...JUST IMAGINE... A GOD WHO CREATES EVERYTHING SO CLEAR ND PLAIN WOULD NOT WRITE HIS WORD TO COURSE SO MUCH CONFUSION LIKE DIS.

They are just the Proof of The Bible, which says Only One Way to Life but Many Many Ways To Die!

And the Problem is How are you going to find that One Way?

Oh boy, it's Unending, I give up let me go and play and have other types of fun.

Gilbertkwabena:
BOOKS LIKE THE BIBLE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE RATHER NOT MAKE US KNOW THIS TRUTH, WE WERE TOLD TO BE PRAYING FOR ALL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE...

I LOVE REALITY... NOT BOOKS... JUST PROVE ME WRONG SIR.

The Bible is written for everyone to make up their own mind for themselves and by themselves without any Duress.

But the teachers who themselves know nothing for they themselves, are wicked evil people too who will not allow you to think for yourself and allow you to come to your own opinion for yourself, which I know that the Bible would show you for yourself how Wrong or Right you are or have been.

As you said "WE WERE TOLD", they say all kinds of things Rather Than the things that they are supposed to be saying, but they do not know, to say.

Gilbertkwabena:
3RD... YOU SAID THE BIBLE GOD(JEHOVAH) HAS HELPED U ALOT...ONE OF THEM IS MAKING YOU LIVE A GOOD LIFE(NO WICKEDNESS ND ALL)... GOOD IF U TRULY DO THAT, NOW I ASK YOU... THOSE WHO DIDN'T READ D BIBLE AND ARE ALSO GOOD HOW DID THEY DO IT?

No one has it Good Without God's Help and Support

Gilbertkwabena:
DO YOU THE MOST PEACEFUL RELIGION ON EARTH IS BUDDHISM?

The Buddhist appear to be using their spirit, which is what the Bible already advocates, not your physical and bodily powers.

Gilbertkwabena:
FIND OUT ABOUT PEOPLE THEY CALL DRUIDS AS WELL, GO TO VILLAGES AND LOOK AT PEOPLE LIVING SO GOOD ND THEY DON'T KNOW D BIBLE GOD(JEHOVAH)... THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVING IN FOREST, SOME HAVE BEEN FOUND ND SOME ARE YET TO BE FOUND... THOSE FOUND WERE ALSO LIVING SO WELL ND SO GOOD....

SO I ASK YOU SIR, WHICH BOOK DID THEY READ TO BECOME GOOD? WHICH GOD ARE THEY aWORSHIPPING TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO ND WHAT NOT TO DO?

These are Using Natural Law as in Law of Nature which is God's Laws to regulate their affairs therefore, God is with them alot, which is Who we lack with the man made laws.

Gilbertkwabena:
ALSO, WHATEVER U THINK JEHOVAH HAS DONE FOR U, LOOK AROUND U AND SEE IF THOSE WHO DOESN'T BELIEF IN JEHOVAH HAS D SAME OR MORE AND THEN ASK URSELF WHO DID IT FOR THEM.

Oh No, they don't even come close. I Beat them flat and they Presently Hate me for it.