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OtemAtum:
Your god can only judge within the books. He has 100% mouth inside the book but is mute when it comes to earth reality. And to burst your bubble, your god is among thousands other gods of religion who are already in a spiritual cage for four years now. Peace

Oh man! Have you not seen that Silence Preceded Judgement?

The greater the Silence, the More you should Fear the Judgment that is to Come!

It is Written, Judgements are prepared for scorners and stripes for the back of fools!"

jamesid29:
Exactly sir. The Father, The Son and The HolySpirit are all distinct from eachother but at the same time all three are the One God(Yahweh),Not three different gods but one God. That's the complexity of the Godhead(three distinct eternal persons but one God Yahweh) and that's what is called the Trinity.
No other being accepts worship apart from Yahweh. As I said sir, getting the trinity right is one of the foundations of the faith but it's also something that it's hard to get for alot of us. We all just have to go down that rabbit trail and trace it through the scriptures.

And finally sir, we all need to be taught and we all need to learn from others as we look onto Jesus. That's why we have teachers , elders, pastors and eachother.
As you see sir, I never provided any links or resources for you to read because I know God is more than able to lead you to the right ones if you ask.

In the Bible One is used in terms of Unity, Absence of Conflict and Controversy. Eg Man is One even though he is 2 (male and female), husband and wife are One even though they are two. The body is many members and parts and the hand is not the nyash, neither the head, a penis (excuse my language), nonetheless, all are still One.

So also The Law or The Commandments, even though they are many, they are still ONE To Wit - "Thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart...."

God's Things are One and Christ Clearly said if you Honour me, you Honour He Who Has Sent Me. If you Honour me not, you Honour not He who Has Sent Me" John 5:23

And which one of you shall not honour the servant of Tinubu when he cometh to your house? Or which one you shall say to the P. A of your Local Government Chairman, stand outside my door, I will come and meet you there?

It is Written

"The fear of a king is as the roaring of a lion: whoso provoketh him to anger sinneth against his own soul.” Proverbs 20:2

Offpoint:
I go break bottles for person head o

Abeg oh! I dey my own lane dey go jeje, na im dat smuggler wan crash into me, make I press brake sharparly sharparly!

OtemAtum:
So childishly written. Have you ever seen any ideology that doesn't have antagonists? You can't have an ideology without an antagonist and these antagonists are the people you refer to as false teachers and scoffers of your ideology. Even Islam, Hinduisms, Buddhisms, Atheism have antagonists who ridicule their ideologies and scoff at their world views. Funny enough, those antagonists and scoffers of each of these world views were formerly believers of the same views they attack. So how does this childish quotation look like prophecy to you?

yeah that is one of the faces of this world Left and Rights, Wrongs and Rights, Good and Bad. And ordinarily none suffered Condemnation or judgment like the right hand has never been Condemned for being the right hand.

But now Condemnation is among us and Judgment is upon us. Either the Antogonist or the Protagonist must Suffer Judgment and Condemnation.

And He Who Has Shown and Proven That He Hath Power Over all and to Judge, has already told us how He shall judge and in what direction He Shall Judge, even before the day of Judgement.

And it is His Judgement, as He has foretold, "That He Who Has done none of those things Which He says, You Must Not Do, Such Shall not be in danger of the Judgment on the day of Anger!

So, your choice, keep playing left and right, I look to judgments for to avoid them and you can fly your chopper into a mountain. It is your soul and your chopper, I will watch it on the news from the comfort of my lounging chair.

jamesid29:
Sir, I can understand that the trinity is one of the things that is hard for alot of us to grasp but if you are trying to stay true to the faith, it's worth it to try and get a good understanding of it and how we can trace it from the old testament to the new.
There's only one God Yahweh, revealed to us in three persons. I know that sounds mind boggling to us but if God created such a complex universe with very complex creatures within it, then it stands to reason that this God is way more complex than we can ever imagine.

There's only one God and only this God receives our worship. Once you start seeing Jesus as a different separate God, that's a slippery slope... Again sir, it's really worth it to try and get what the doctrine of the Trinity is.

@bolded... That's not what the scriptures says sir.
Shalom sir

Respectfully.sir,I have seen that when the Bible says a specific thing, it means that specific thing. Following that knowledge is why I am able to come to my own Conclusion for myself not what someone else says or suggests.

With that, there are many things that prove what is commonly Called Trinity, Starting from the end (Revelation) to the beginning (Genesis), There is He Who Sits on the Throne (a King and His Throne) there is the Lamb Who was Slain whom we have all Identified to be Jesus and Holy Spirit is known also.

In Revelation, was The King on The Throne not sitting on His Throne when the Lamb opened the Seals?

Can He be sitting on the Throne and opening the seals at the same time being One Person? No, I say, We see One Sitting on the Throne and Another opening the Seals and yet Others Round about the Throne, all gathered together in the place around the Throne!

Minsk24:
Shut your mouth and stop spewing thrash...
The accounts selected that made up the bible were selected during the council of nicea...
Gets sense for once and do research before jumping to defend your faith

See vexing!

You be demon and the Bible dey burn you? .

Your anus, your faeces.

Minsk24:
You dy always talk off point....
I wonder weda u dy type before you think

Offpoint dey e house oh I no disturb am but na you get your anus Sha.

OtemAtum:
What was the prophecy about, pls let me hear.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 Peter 2:1

2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts," 2 Peter 3:2/3.

ThePlainTruth:
How is this:

Revelation 16:15 NIV:
"Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.'"

Different from this:

KjV Revelation 16:15
"Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."

That word "clothes" led you to think the unclothedness of Adam and Eve, hence your the question you posted, meanwhile garment as used in KjV leads you to remember the Law and Demand of God for Holiness in the words "garments as white as snow" used severally all through the Bible.

Therefore, they are not the same.

urchcoded:
you really mean the Bible contains all God did is doing and will do. some part of it is men writing letters to there village people. Eg, Paul writing to his brethren in Philadelphia or so. Why is none of these letters addressed to us? And is there nobody spirit filled enough to write a letter to us say Yoruba or igbo people that should be recorded.

It is God's Law given to you that "Nothing shall be given to you unless you Consent to it being given and if it be given, you have a right to refuse same."

So, it is with God in Keeping with the Law Established for men, though He Gives us the Bible, You have a right to take it or to refuse it. So, like a novel or Nairaland, it is written for many whose names appear or do not appear.

kingxsamz:
You want to know?
You people don't even know who wrote it in the first place.

While it may be that we do not know who wrote it BUT we are Deeply Thankful that it was written!

Ah! In the absence of a known writer, It would be nice to even claim that the Lord God dropped it as His Memo or diary but we are shall play Fair, Truthful and Honest

OtemAtum:
Humans can be very funny sha. You give yourself a tag and others another tag and you feel that the imaginary tags have anything to do with reality? We humans all come from the same source and that is God Almighty which created Jehovah your god. Where does Satan come into the equation now?

Otem the self acclaimed god, do you think it reasonable to contend with you?

You are simply doing what was Prophecied someone shall do but like Judas Iscariot in his days, today it is the person with the Monika Otem the Atumite from Atum.

Let's not strive you are playing your role today, I will play mine.

OtemAtum:
Lol. Very funny story.

Exactly what Satan's child must say.

ThePlainTruth:
Revelation 16:15 NIV: "Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.'"

See, bad Bible, Wrong Interpretation.

Wrong Interpretation therefore wrong Understanding.

Wrong Understanding, therefore, wrong explanation must be supplied by those who adhere to this misrepresentation.

Meanwhile KjV clearly says, Revelation 16:15
"Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."

The Bible is a Gift of God recorded for our own benefit, what matters the Lord has done and what He shall do.

The Lord will not change neither shall the things which He shall do unto us even if the Bible is not written.

Therefore, the Bible is a recording of the matters that all men should take heed of, which the Lord God, Ruler of heaven and Earth shall hold all men accountable of.

Thus the matters in the Bible,though diverse, is about God and the things He Has done plus the things He shall do to all in the future, hence the Bible rightly Stops in Revelation because the Revelation is the End of the corrupted man which we are presently, requiring purification and the beginning of the New Man, Purified in a New World the Lord shall make.

Thus, Revelation is the Conclusion of all corrupted souls all other books covering the beginning and end of all matters leading to it.

Janosky:
Bros, you no get SENSE !

Fellowship exists where two or more people form a bond. For instance, a married couple.

The term "Team spirit" refers to a united bond of fellowship , harmony in a sports team

I repeat, you no get SENSE!

I bless you!

Janosky:
Bros, let the holy Bible speak for itself

** Acts3:13
13 The God of Avraham, Yitz'chak and Ya'akov, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Yeshua

Exodus 3:14-15 is Screenshots confirmation of Acts 3:13, please wear double specs and see am well well
Even sef , John 3:16 no dey your Bible

John 20:17, who is ascending to heaven to meet whom?


Please continue to deceive yourself

Bros, the Bible has Spoken as you said. And there is still no confusion in your presentation above.

However, it is Written, the remainder is he who has an eye to see, let him see; he who has an ear to hear, let him hear.

No quarel, no fight!

A kingdom is Established in RIGHTNESS AND GOODNESS.

Offence Destroyeth A people!

Kai! Please God come and take your world back even the courts do not know right and wrong, good from bad.

There is no one in the land to give just is!

As the hymn "I Need Thee Every Hour" says in Stanza 2

"Temptations lose their power
when Thou art Nigh"

Janosky:
Triune idol worshippers
Na so Dem be

It is sport to a fool to have no regard for his Rulers!

Janosky:
Man made Fraud defined .
Exodus 3:14-15 and Acts 3:13, confirm that dubious quote of John 8:58 is fraudulent.

In your want of Understanding you yourself commit a blunder. The Exodus and John confirm the Truth of the Statement of this post.

As James said, if you want Understanding, you have to Ask the Lord for it!

Janosky:
John 20:17 & Rev3:5,12 Jesus NEVER claim to be Almighty God.
Do you guys know the Bible more than Jesus Christ?
Continue deceiving yourselves

I do not know if this is a spill over contention but I did not see any where here where he made a Claim that Jesus, the Christ, is God, The All Mighty!

Law has been provided by our Creator for our good and Issued From His Holy and Just Mouth. it is in the name of Natural Law.

It is this Law that created the man and controls him.

But Theives have made laws for themselves and have forced others by cunning and deceits, lies and bribings to obey their False Laws called Constitutions, Legislations and shits.

Man made laws do not have power to control man and it can never.

Which is why all men, break at will, all man made laws for a Camry can not tell what and how Mr Toyoda shall have to live his life.

That is why all Constitutions must fail and man shall continue to complain about his living under this False Laws.

Every man is regulated by God through Natural Law whether he agrees to it or not BUT unless a man agrees to man made laws, the constitution would not have any power over him.

If it is a Lie then you do not see for Buhari, Woke, Fani Kayode, your governors, both armed and unarmed forces do not remember the constitution neither are they under it.

Every one is above man made law but all is under Natural Law.

And Natural Law Destroys and Spoils the work of evil men.

What else would a killer do.

As if God through the Bible has not catered for man and Instructed his way for his own good.

Well this is time of Deceits, False Practices that guarantee death, False Teachings and All manners of evil practices.

sbaks:
People who barely have money for house rent will bring what they have to the apostles feet so they can see 'magic money'. But alas, they are caught up in their own greed and discontentment too as they meet with these high class fraudsters as pastors. Too bad!

A voluntary gift is not a crime! Anything you gave willingly is no longer yours and the receiver can do whatever he likes with your gift,

If you do not want him to do whatever he likes the simple solution is to stop giving.

Remove your eyes from them or nothing stops you from doing as they have done.

jesusjnr2020:
Petra1 my good friend, who's deceiving who here? Whether treasure or control, everything boils down to money. Your man Oyedepo said the government was jealous of the prosperity of the church. So what does that tell you about the crux of his outrage?

Is such not operational in some other nations where his church branches are? So why all the fuss about the same happening here in Nigeria?

If you spent as much time defending Jesus as you do these modern day Pharisees, you'd be in a much better place. If you can't clearly see the rot in the church, then you really have to ask yourself some questions.

The rules of engagement abroad is clear, certain, understood and every participant abides by their respective roles.

No one is allowed to breach his duty.

This is not so here in Nigeria. The Rules of Engagement is a Fraud, frought with deceits, selective and unstable and Unfounded andcan never be trusted to be relied upon.

That is why the Amendments is Rejected because those provisions already exist even before the Amendments were made but People Do Not Exercise their Natural Rights in this country and Nigerians are even more weaklings in fighting for their own good.

He is right to fight for his good and any other person who has a good should take their own good.

The Tenets of the Law is for Everyone to Live Honestly, Hurt No One and Render to Every One His Due!

jesusjnr2020:
Jesus said:

Matthew 6:19-21 (KJV)
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Matthew 6:19-21 (KJV)

So Jesus advised men especially those of His church against laying up of treasures here on Earth because He very well knew such treasures would be vulnerable to corruption and thieves. Hence the likes of Peter and John who were the leaders of His church heeding His advice, and not laying up their treasures on the Earth but in heaven, so that their treasures would not be vulnerable to such.

Therefore if present day church leaders foolishly chose to do the otherwise and laid up treasures for themselves on Earth, despite that Jesus the Master had advised against such, and their earthly treasures were being threatened by corruption and thieves as Jesus had warned would happen to such, they'd have no else to blame but themselves, because they had chosen to despise these very wise sayings of Jesus.

God bless.

They will be Judged by the Lord, not man.

Preciousgirl:
Jesus is God according to you but not God?

How many God's do you have then?

Read Deuteronomy 6:4

I have one God and His name is Jesus

If you pay close attention to the various unknown Persons you have seen therein, you would see that there are Many Persons Who are Greater than man. Prophets (John is the greatest of Prophets), Angels, The Elders, The Persons on the Red Horse, Black Horse etc.

Then Revelation 5, There is He Who Sits on the Throne and you already know that The Lamb is Christ.

Therefore, there are many Great Persons Who have Authority and Power over man but the Difference is that The Lord, is Appointed by He Who Sits on the Throne to be God Over us, the man.

There is He Who Sits on the Throne and He is the One Who spoke in Genesis 1. After that look again, you would see that He Stopped Speaking altogether after the Lord Who is God Over us, hence Lord God.

Watch again when the Lord Introduced Himself He says "Lord" first but because man did not understand, He thereafter adds God.

But Later down, when Everyone knew and Understood Who He was, He reverted to His designation, which is "Lord" and He was Called The Lord until, He came to visit us on earth.

And Deuteronomy 6:4 proves what I say. See it He said Lord Twice in one sentence.

And verse 5 proves what I am saying "Love the Lord (Who is) thy God ( to thee)!

Angels and Elders though Greater than you and can exercise great power over you, they are however not our Governor!

bingbagbo:
John 10:28-30

[28]And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.

[29]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.

[30]I and My Father are one.”

Jesus Christ is the Father made manifest

Hallelujah

Even when you quoting Where the Lord God is saying "My Father" "My Father" you do not see.

The Christ Clearly said John 5:30
"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me

Will He not look crazy to be referring to Himself? When He Introduced Himself, did He Not Properly Introduce Himself to Isaac, Jacob, Mose, the woman of Samaria?

The Bible is not like you, Neither is Christ, He Always Speaks Accurately and the Bible is Always Very Accurate in its Statements and it's Choice of Words, at least KjV is.

But you are very Obstinate. "A wise man will hear correction and increase in learning."

bingbagbo:
John 10:31-33

[31]Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.

[32]Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”

[33]The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

I have cleared this up. He is the Lord God! The same One Who visited Abraham.

He is God Over Us, Not God, The Most High!

sonmvayina:
The truth is that a woman needs an input from a man before she becomes pregnant.. Or is it a lie?.. So why do you believe it is possible for a woman to miss her period without a man's sperm present to fertilize her eggs..

So you still have a long way to go

And I answered you that A Creator, Does whatever Pleases Him with his creations and His creations are helpless to stop His plans.

You are Limiting the Creator being stuck up with what you have seen the Creator create rather than Respect that the Creator Always Has Power to Create and Recreate and Uncreated and Modify His creations, Without Limitations In any way and manner that Pleases Him!

Like the Camrys in Nigeria is not the same with the one Mr Toyoda has at in his garage even if it looks the same.