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They All Emanate and Proceed From the Most High God, King, The Beginning and the End!

Csonice1:
I have told you before; desist from speaking from assumptions. trial an error is good; but the injury that comes from it may not allow you to try a second time.
Some of these men you are fighting are the most humble people ever; they've touched power, understood mysteries, heard from God and yet not puffed up by it.
wait till you get the same kind of relevance and let's know what you will do with it. if you had your way on nairaland alone, you will even do more.
A city set on a hill can never be hidden, God's voice for a generation can't be ignored: no matter how humble he may be.

let me tell you something (don't be offended):
you are not preaching the gospel. you are busy fighting the Church up and down. A man who has the original is never scared of the counterfeit; a man who wails so much about the counterfeit does not have the original.
Because if you do have the original, the difference will be clear.

Jesus and the early Church didn't spend all their time speaking about false prophets and teachers (they taught it once in a while to keep the church free from ignorance but not all the time): They focused more on God's Word and His power. They had the original. They didn't magnify the power of the enemy above that of God: whosoever you set before your eyes always, whosoever you preach all the time is magnified in your sight.

Now, let me tell you about peter:
Peter became so filled with power that they laid down sick people at the side of the road, so that his shadow could at least touch them and they were healed. How about Paul who gave out aprons to heal the sick. None of these men sought to be worshipped; they only performed their obligation as the ambassadors of Christ.

we are not ignorant of the devices of the enemy.
therefore,
obtain the original and you can spot the fake. every time.

oh, Sweet!

Csonice1:
let me tell you something (don't be offended):
you are not preaching the gospel. you are busy fighting the Church up and down. A man who has the original is never scared of the counterfeit; a man who wails so much about the counterfeit does not have the original.
Because if you do have the original, the difference will be clear.

Mm, mm, mm, Yummy!! I love it!

The guy is greatly afflicted and I think that it is because he foolishly followed and listen to them taking in everything they said all jollof rice, plate and spoon, he is Now A Very Bitter Person, Firing out of control like a lunatic.

Csonice1:
once there is a law there is either obedience or transgression. it may not be sin to take your dad's car keys until he makes it a law that no one should do it without his conscent. As for God, righteousness and Justice are the foundations of His throne.
Then, if your lust( passion) and desire to have what you shouldn't have is greater to you than the commandment, you become a transgressor.
you are tempted by your lusts, and this brings about sin and then death.
Satan uses this strategy; that's why he appeals to people's lusts as a way of deceiving them to sin: he has been there before.

Tell them, tell them!

Kobojunkie:
I have no business with Satan and he has no business with me.
This does not happen to me at all.

Ah! I have forgotten for a while that you are A Liar and even against Nature, you would still Like! And you have still not changed. Ok, I'll try and remember.

You can Lie with your lips but you can not deceive me, the Truth of your much predicaments is even in your comments, yet You Lie!

I am not your judge, your Lying is useless to me for it is seen and known that every man born into this world suffers much travail until he learns and Walks in the way of the Lord!

Kobojunkie:
I don't believe your description in any way fits the description given of Satan in the Bible, particularly in the Old Testament though. Satan, as described in the Old Testament, is a Servant of God... sort of like a quality control manager of sorts.

We've had this argument before and you could not rebut and your problem is that you do not know how to use your spirit.

Therefore, if it is not explicitly written, you will never see it.

The Destroyer in Exodus was sent to do his job, he did it and there is no talk anywhere of his being condemned, So also the Angel sent against David and Isreal.

God has never condemned anyone for obeying him, not even once BUT HE HAS ALWAYS CONDEMNED THE DISOBEDIENT, WHICH IS WHY REVELATIONS CLEARLY TELLS YOU THAT IN THE END SATAN IS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE together with those humans who disobeyed the Lord.

But you would not listen, you even called Revelation "a dream that that never happens and the events there will never happen.

Well, like Somvayina, the Bible is a Novel, not to be lived by, so there is no need to argue with you and I am beginning to think that like Somvayina, you do not believe in the Bible.

Kobojunkie:
would that be Lucifer jumping out of me?

funny man! Nope.

But if you are looking to see Satan, this is the most common way you get to discover him.

Next time you get into trouble, serious trouble and you were so motivated to get into it, which you did and it blows up in your face, then you wondered how and why you are the only one bearing the trouble?

That's when you know he was inside of you, for he will put you in trouble and Accurately Abandon JUST IMMEDIATELY before your judgement comes on you.

Kobojunkie:
To that, I say, keep your delusions while I keep mine.

Next time when you experience that sensation of jumping out of your skin, do try to remember who is bailing out and who is being left behind!

I was going to say that you have reached rock bottom but when I saw what you said and did, alas you have still not Learnt your lesson, so you fall on!

I sure do hope you stop for surely You will Never get out of a pit if you keep digging!

Kobojunkie:
There is no 'spirit' to try. Not every thing refers to spirits and demons that need to be tried. Commonsense should come first before every thing else.

And that is your problem! You do not Truly Know nor realise That All Things Created by God are spirits first, then they are "clothed" or wrapped with some form of covering.

In our case, our covering is the dust from the earth.

morituri:
On what basis do you recognize the Bible's message as God's word?

If you read the kjv Bible, you would experience Great Fear and you have already heard that it wise to be Very Afraid of God.

morituri:
If God is always right, then how do you discern what was said by God from what wasn't? How are you sure he's always right anyway?

That Fear Already let's You Know That it is Indeed His Word and Whatever He Says He shall Do, By your spirit and in your soul, You Know That it Must be Done!

Kobojunkie:
Again.

Again, I say "try the spirits" if you can!

Kobojunkie:
No, that is not true though. Not according to scripture

I understand, the Nigerian mind, waits for everything to spelt out in clear precise language and unfortunately, if you knew God, you would have seen that there is One Character, He Possesses, Which is, He Speaks so Little Precisely and He does not like long speeches.

But if you knew you how to use your spirit, you will get His messages without any ambiguity or confusion and Everything He Wanted Say and He wanted us to know is clearly stated in the KjV.

Kobojunkie:
try what spirit though? Lucifer?

Lucifer, Satan, Devil is still the same one spirit of Extreme Wickedness And the Doer of all Wickedness and the Provoker of all evil rolled into one

Kobojunkie:
king James was a man who wrote in human language what he comprehended as humans would.

King James wrote a book called 'Demonologie' where he defined the character Lucifer. He then transferred to his ideas of that character over while translating the bible for His own church if England.

There is nothing truthful about the man's own translation.

He is human so he must write using human language.

And I am not talking about the language but the spirit as Peter advices in KjV "Try the spirits".

And Everything about Life and Us and our Maker is spirit.

And KjV carries the Spirit of the Great Fear of the Lord and the Pureness of His Spirit, while others are Man's Reproduction of the Bible, Removing the Fear the Words of God Provoke not any different from reading Stephen King, James Hardly Chase, Robert Ludlum etc which you read and you are cool.

The Word of the Lord Always Pierces and Divides the spirit and Must do so, anything short of this is Not The Word of the Lord, Which is what KjV fulfills.

Which is why many flee from KjV, and seek to destroy it, exactly as they Always Attack God's Things which I know that it is because KjV is very Fearful to the soul, who sinneth and readeth it.

ThreeEyedRaven:
It is believed that thoughts are inspiration from the spiritual realm that we process here and act on them. Someone/something sparked those thoughts in him. Who/what is responsible it ?

For man, you are afflicted by 2 Major forces, Your Own Desires and Satan and the 2 of them are inside you.

Which Is why it is Written "Guide your heart (soul) with all diligence."

ThreeEyedRaven:
It is believed that thoughts are inspiration from the spiritual realm that we process here and act on them. Someone/something sparked those thoughts in him. Who/what is responsible it ?

Nothing did and you have experienced this fact!

Remember that event where you carried out an action not because you were tempted or provoked or anything at all But Simply Because You Wished And Desired to Do Your Own Will and Your Own Pleasure, and you did not care about who it affects or the Consequences of your action.

Same thing happened to Satan.

And I think he was the First to get out of Order (And If You know God, He Pays Great Attention to the First), Like Adam/Eve, he got the brunt of God's Anger!

Kobojunkie:
Sorry but the entire Chapter is about the king of Tyre and Siddon.. Nothing about Lucifer in there.
The write up in that book and chapter is similar to that in Isaiah 14, which is about the King of Assyria and again not Lucifer

Also, the character Lucifer is a made-up character, the name came from King James who transliterated the Bible back about 400 years ago and let his imagination run off with him.

"The Words I Speak to you are Spirit and Life" that is what King James version represents. It is not mere words but Spirit, for it is Written in Spirit!

And it is the Spirit which gives power to discern All things that which is True and that which is a Lie, that which is Good from that which is evil, not mere words.

ThreeEyedRaven:
Hello everyone.

I had a WhatsApp group call with three of my friends. James, Wale and Goke (In case any of you is reading this, hi guys, you guys are smart I enjoyed the conversation ) where we discussed the origin of sin.

My position was that there's a greater or darker power that corrupted Lucifer. I mean looking at a logical analysis of Ezekiel 28:15
which I'll quote "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."

The Answer is God Made "Something" Called Evil to Swallow Up and Eat the things that are Not goods and bads, So that Only Goods or Good things would remain in Abundance and Circulation.

But because Satan did Great evil, God Cursed him with the love and desire for evil.

And remember Always Curses or Judgements Follow after you have offended God.

Therefore, Satan was Merged with the Evil Created,

It is that same merging that he, Satan replicated with the soul of man.

sonmvayina:
How apt,.. And you believe a woman can become pregnant without the input of a man.. You too get sense... Carry on..

Ant, carry on with your godlesssness and wait for your squishing!

sonmvayina:
For you..

"I will run and not go weary,
I will walk and shall not faint,
For the Lord will before me,
And His joy will be my strength
Mounting up with wings as eagles
As my spirits start to soar
When I come into His presence
And i wait upon the Lord

I will wait upon the Lord
For in His Presence
Is fullness of joy
And our strength
Will be restored
As I wait … upon the Lord!

sonmvayina:
Christianity is rebranded paganism... It is idolatry.. God hates it.. For a God to die, that is in the realm of lucifer....

Continue, when the time comes for you to wake up.. You will.

You know, I know you like Lies and Lying, so it is not out of place that you would like this Lie, but it is thine hand to like lies!

sonmvayina:
You just don't want to accept tbst you have been deceived.. Because you have invested your whole life and resources on it... I get it..

It is you who deceives yourself and now you seek to deceive others.

I rely on verified information, information I have verified for myself, by myself and I conducted all the investigation myself.

You rely on dem say, which I have already shown you is weak and baseless.

And you are afraid of coming to knowledge of the Truth for in your heart you think it would be a good defence before the Lord to not know, so that you can claim that you were mistaken and misled by any named person.

sonmvayina:
Show me when God planed it.. That is all I want, I will accept it..

My point is that it is not of God.. So why bother

Sorry love I must leave it as an Obstacle for you, for a child can not learn to write good sentences without learning A,B,C..

sonmvayina:
A wise man(or woman) is someone who thinks things through before deciding on what to do... Who understands the language of the gods...

Or one who uses his God given senses, to decipher the codes hidden in nature..


Not one who believes a woman can become pregnant without a man's sperm..

Without knowledge, an Ant must think that a broken chair is a Great Mansion.

And when he carries but a little rock, he thinketh that he is the strongest in the world, until he is squashed to death by some Greater, he knew not to avoid!

budaatum:
Those who fear know not and are at the beginning of learning. You may read here about those who fear and their reasons for fearing. And here about a person who needed to fear the Lord but didn't. As you can see, they are lessons taught very near the Beginning. In primary one.

Fear no evil! Especially that which can only break the body and not the soul. The Rod and the Staff of the Lord God Almighty Comforts and should be rejoiced in!

Lessons, the key word of all learnings, for those who desire a certain outcome different from other possible outcomes.

And there is a time to fear and a time not to fear.

delkuf:
Wisdom is the application of knowledge

Do not forget the word "Right" and I will add "Accurate" application of knowledge, for the purpose of Achieving a desired result or outcome.

And the proof of that wisdom is if the expected or Calculated or desired Outcome is Obtained and Acquired!

So, therefore, wisdom is the Right and Accurate Application of Knowledge for the Purpose of Achieving or Obtaining a Desired Outcome!

Thank you thank you thank you I hope say I score pass 5. I will ask for my answer shit if it is less than 3

budaatum:
It is rather funny how some focus on a single verse in a massive book and disregard just about every other related verse in the same book.

Vāde ad formīcam, ō piger, et consīderā viās eius, et disce sapientiam.

I think they are acting in the knowledge that all roads lead to death whether danger or hunger but only One or Two will keep the soul alive.

budaatum:
It may be the beginning, but I doubt fear is that necessary perhaps because I understand fear to mean, 'be afraid of', and somehow, fear and the wise don't mix in my head.

Why should I be afraid of the Lord God Almighty? Would I teach my child to be afraid of the Lord to gain knowledge and wisdom, or would I teach my child to learn God's ways instead?

Do you teach your children fear, muttley?

The qualifying word is to Fear Correcly and Accurately and at the Right Time.

Also to know Fear is the Difference Between the Choice of Living and of Dying!

He who does not mind dying, fails to fear at the correct time

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sonmvayina:
No long story jor, just show me from the old testament where God ask us to believe in the death of the Messiah in other to be saved.. Let me close this thread..
That is the purpose of this thread.

Is there any that can make Satan cease from doing evil? There is more hope of this than to show you the importance of the death of the Lord, Jesus, the Christ and Saviour of Mankind!

Close, the thread, if you like!

sonmvayina:
If not you are guilty of disobedience and idolatry.
Sincerely, I don't want to be part of it..

If a man is wise, he is wise for himself. So also it is for Salvation, if a man be saved, it is his own soul that rejoiceth!

gbami:
Wow..If you can't comprehend the question...Why did you feel the need to reply..

I do comprehend the question I am saying you can deceive me or every man, claiming that you are masturbating while thinking of your "wife" but it would not be able to deceive the Lord.

He sees and knows all of them.

Let me leave you alone after all, it is your masturbation!

gbami:
And my thoughts is my wife's unclothedness, nothing else...
All I am reading is judge judge judge... Judge me for thinking about my wife's unclothedness!

He sees All your Thoughts, even those that wantonly stray to someone else, He sees them too.

You can not deceive Him for He Knows You More than you Think or Know, That is How Great He is!

The wise, fear the Lord for He cannot be deceived by any means whatsoever!

ictplotter:
Am very curious about this believe of Christians, that one must need the holy spirit in order to understand the Bible, that is clearly written in English language which I speak and understand very well.
My question now is, how do we detect those that are filled with the holy spirit license to read and interpret the Bible? Because I notice, once you quote a biblical verses that is against their Christians practice and believe, they will tell you the literary meaning is different from the holy spirit meaning.
Pls I need the holy spirit meaning of the following biblical verses. Because with those biblical verses below, clearly show that Jesus is not God and he Jesus have a limited knowledge like very other man created by God.

John17vs3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Mathew27vs46
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

Mark12vs29
The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the God is one.

John14vs28
You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Mark13vs32
But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son " Jesus", but only the Father "God".

Yes, He is Not The Most High God, Father of All. He is the Son of the Most High God and Father of All,

AND

He is the One Who is in Charge or Control, Director and Manager and President of Every thing Heaven and on Earth, as The Most High and Father of All, had Appointed Him!

And He is like A God Over Us, and A God Over us Like The Most High!

No one or I would say No man Speaks to the Father or can Speak to Him (and Neither do you want to talk to Him, if you are wise) neither has any man seen Him Nor shall any man see Him (and Neither do you want to see Him, if you are wise)

The Bible is written in English but the Message is in Spirit.

Flesh reads flesh Only but Spirit reads both flesh and spirit.

You Require the Spirit, to interpret and Understand the Spirit.

And One of the Spirits Required, is the Spirit of Understanding, which No school can give you nor any amount of lecture, But Understanding Is Owned By The Lord and it is Given By Him ONLY.

It can not be taken or Acquired, Only Given.