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Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:00pm On Aug 13, 2020

Acehart:
The two of you will wear yourselves soon. Friend, to help you answer his question (He has been clear on his position from his explanation from the book of Proverbs and the “abominations before the Lord”. It is important you understand the latter to understand what those verses in Leviticus meant), please study deeply 2 Kings 18:4 and especially 2 Kings 23:7. Please, have in mind those words - ‘abominations before the Lord’ and defile “Holiness” or defile a “Holy Place or People”.

Thank you, I believe that the matter is just about concluded now.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:56am On Aug 13, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
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"He went on to say,
Pay attention to what you're listening to!
(i.e. Pay close attention to what you hear)
[Knowledge] (i.e. facts, vital pieces of information) will be measured out to you by the measure [of attention] you give.
(i.e. The closer you listen, the more understanding you will be given--and you will receive even more.)
This is the way knowledge increases"
- Mark 4:24

Being gay, is like being left handed. Just as some people are left handed, so, some people aren't.

Aside epigenetic, (i.e. I believe you watched the video, I earlier shared above there about epigenetic) and the matter of least knowledge, of, thats just the way things are, nobody really knows why, same sex attraction exists, except for, it's part of the dividends of us living in an imperfect world and that, God, in His infinite wisdom allow it and so it is that, there is nothing abnormal in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object or neighbour

Now, if truly, you are a real deal, truth seeker, that you like to be identified to be, then a truth rhetorical question, I'll ask you Dtruthseeker will be. Is it possible, that love can be extraordinary, that there is love wonderful and passing the love of women? Of course, yes, for some, there is and this even, is a biblical fact.

Dtruthseeker, if blanket homosexuality is an abomination, thank God, it isn't blanket homosexuality, not homosexuality per se, that is an abomination, but then, if it was or let's say for the sake of your "Dtruthseeker argument" it is, then isnt it, just as bad as being a liar? Isn't it just as bad as telling lies and/or lying, hmm?

If hypothetically speaking, it is that, homosexuality is a sin and/or an abomination, then why are people behaving in unpleasant ways towards homosexual(s) exclusively? Why are homosexuals singled out to bear/take/suffer et cetera the brunt of discrimination, hatred, violence, humiliation, being physically harmed/assaulted, fear of their lives etcetera, huh? Is it because some section of believers, think that they are more important than they really are, when compared with fellow human beings, who by no choice of theirs, except for epigenetics, have same sex attraction, similarly like having to be lefthanded, hmm? If hypothetically speaking, it is that, homosexuality is a sin and/or an abomination, then a liar would just be as sinful as a homosexual, right? Imagine liars, condemning monogamous till death part them, homosexuals. Smh. KMT.

The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven, especially when I suspect believers like you Dtruthseeker, enjoy eating sumptuous, luxurious meal delicacies, the likes of, lobsters, bush meats et cetera or having your lovable crab soup, shrimps, prawns, cray fish, point and kill cat fish, pepperoni in pizza, belly pork et cetera, and here you are disproportionately, illogically and out of context, busy talking of abomination. Sigh and smh. The abomination context, in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is so incredibly important, but you just cant get yourself to 2 Timothy 2:15 dig deeper and fact check the verses

I mean no wound when I say the following.
First, you have just conceeded that in Truth the Defence of homosexuality is not Founded in the Bible or Provided.

BUT BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU (and all the proponents of it) Say It Is Natural Meaning Your Defence Of Homosexuality IS BASED ON NATURE, Therefore, YOU ARE PLEADING THE DEFENCE OF NATURE.

Since you have raised the Defence of Nature, then I say that, That is the Beauty and Power of God, For He is the Creator of Nature, and Your Creator, therefore He can Properly and Justly Assess your Defence, if it stands and it is valid or if it falls.

No man can validly Comment from hereon because man is neither the Creator of Nature nor the Creator of the homosexual man, so he can not truly appreciate the Defence of Nature.

But what we do know and we say is that There is a Law Given by God, the Creator of Nature and all men both "homosexual" and heterosexual, Prohibiting and Banning its doing or practice with No Exception!

Would the Defence of Nature avail any person who does these Abominations? Smh!

In my humble opinion, I do not think any would be found innocent. Why? Because Law (1) says "He made them male and female"

So, the question therefore is, Did the Creator make you male and male? It is the Creator Himself Who shall supply this answer. And fortunately or unfortunately depending on the Judgement, it is the Creator Himself, Who shall also Judge this matters.

Thus, my final position is that, it is better to be on the Safe side of the Law by complying and abiding with it than to place thyself, In Danger of Contravening it, where you Test The Judgement of it, with your Life as Against An Expressingly Declared Judgement, Covering the Same Subject Matter.

For in view of This Contention, the Lord God, Knowing that you shall think in this way and manner, Gave His Judgments In Advance in the same Leviticus 18, saying

"4 Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the Lord your God.

5 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments:

26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations;

Three (3) Times Did He Say That He Has Given Us Before Hand, His Judgments!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 11:12pm On Aug 12, 2020

Maximus69:
I like your style, it's not proper pestering others on such issues like this.
But one thing is certain ~

This is the end time and God's people needs to be identified in the midst of false religionsists, Jesus did say they will be IDENTIFIED {Matthew 5:13:16, 7:16-18} and SEPARATED from the world of false religions! John 17:14 compare to Revelations 18:4

All these arguement going on amongst all of you is just the result of one thing: none of you wants to IDENTIFY or be IDENTIFIED with God's own people, yet you're trying to justify your stand on Religion.

Today all the religious books on this planet be it Bible, Qur'an or any other book considered sacred is just like paper work if you can't point to those representing the author of the book.
Well i believe that's why the Author of the Bible says people need to IDENTIFY his WITNESSES in the endtime, they are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Ordinarily observing their movement and what they stand for as a group is enough to speak about their God! Isaiah 43:10-12 compare to Hebrew 11:4- 12:1

Thanks for sharing your opinion!

As you rightly said, these are the times of the end and to me, the No 1 Rule is this, "Take Heed that No Man deceive you. Many shall come and shall deceive many"

Rule 2- "Keep the Commandments" and

Rule 3- "having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:51pm On Aug 12, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
You arent having a contention with me, you are having the contention with the Bible. Nasty is never going to happen because I don't bite, the most, I may, do, is an odd bark.

I will keep reminding and advising you to stick to exactly what is in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. To exactly stick to how Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 was written without adding or using the word homosexuality, that is a late 19th century invention.

It will interest you to know, that the words, homosexuality and homosexual are not at all, in the original texts of the Bible. In fact, the words homosexuality and/or homosexual, actually are words that are barely 200 years old. As a matter of fact, the word "homosexual" was invented in 1868, and has earlier advanced, the word "homosexuality" certainly wasn't around in Biblical times to be used.

Another more interesting fact, is that, the word "homosexual" was first printed in a German book in 1869, and then after placed in the German Bible in 1946 and later then in the English bible in 1950s, so please do add words into to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, that weren't originally there, lets faithfully just stick to exactly the same words as were used originally Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

With all due respect to you, may I humbly ask you to present verse(s) in Leviticus 18, that specifically said or called an activity an abomination(s)

Pride will not permit you to admit that, you have no clue why the activities in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are prohibited and the reason for calling them abomination

I am pleased that you are provoked that much to go review the bible, but not so fast José, I put it to you, that the whole shebang of Leviticus 18:24-29 is exclusively related Leviticus 18:22

I can see that you conveniently omitted Leviticus 18:30 when reeling out your "forced-to-go-research-upon" Leviticus 18. Why now? Is it because of you not grasping the grave concern of exactly what were the practised "abominable customs" ni?

What exactly was going on during the "abominable customs" activity, that defiled the land and disgusts God, huh?

Leviticus 18 has settled all your questions without leaving any unanswered.

God Listed the conducts He Abhors! Verses 6-23

verses 24-29. God says these conducts defile Holiness.

24 Defile not ye yourselves in Any of These Things: (Why?) for in all these, the nations are defiled, which I cast out before you:

25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit Any of These Abominations; {Not One as you implied) neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

27 For All These Abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;

28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.

29 For whosoever shall commit Any of These abominations, {Not One as you implied) even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

And verse 30 simply re-iterates the Prohibition of the doing of Any One of this conducts or Acts or practices or Custom.

God has answered all your questions and There is No Defence for the Practice of what is called today, homosexuality.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:33pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
Create a thread.. For both of us to iron this matter out let's not derail this one..

I agree

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:21pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
The Torah (that is from genesis to Deuteronomy) contains the laws of God that no man has any right to change or alter.. It is the heart and soul of the Bible.. The other books. contains the writing of the sages and prophet of Israel. It details their history and their suffering in the hands of their enemies.. And a promise of a better future of everlasting peace that the Messiah will usher in... When God returns all of them to the land he promised them..

God was punishing them because they failed to keep his laws.. God hold his laws in high esteem... Prophesy ended on the death of the last prophet. That would be malachi..

And do you stand on all these Knowings you have laid before us all as the Truths you Truly Believe?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:07pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
Am waiting, also answer the question I set before you..

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:06pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
Let us end this matter once and for all..

Show me from the old testament where it was written that God son will be the Messiah and he was coming as a sacrifice for sins and we are expected to give our life to him in other to be saved..

If you can, I swear I will join you..

I can settle all these matters and please do not join me

I am simply A DIY, an advocate of Natural Truths like the Sun is above us today in Abuja or if your engine is hot, you would not like to place your face on it, kind of Truth, that is all.

I require no followers just persons I could call friends because they Understand the Way of the Lord and strive to keep His Commandments, to the best of their ability that is all.

That is what I Truly Contend with you.

So where you formerly said you only believe the Bible from Genesis to Deuteronomy, which I think you have now included Isaiah, is it that you now accept from Genesis to Isaiah?

Or is it skip to Isaiah?

And quite frankly, I do not think you believe much of the contents of the Bible and if you already have problems with the part, how is it possible that I can get you to understand the whole?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 4:49pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
My parents are.. They used to force us to go when I was younger, I went as far as been a mass servant.. Just to please them, but now I know better..

Ah! I see your problem but let me digest all I have learnt about you.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 4:39pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
Hate?.. You are very funny, a comic book character like Thanos..

Somebody I know never even existed.. I am opening your eyes to the deception that is in your front, but you are just too deep to accept it.because you have invested your whole life and resources on it..

Continue, when the time comes, you will know..

Are you also Catholic or formerly Catholic?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 4:38pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
Isaiah 52:15

15:So shall he cast down many nations; kings shall shut their mouths because of him, for, what had not been told them they saw, and [at] what they had not heard they gazed.

Isaiah 53:1
1Who would have believed our report, and to whom was the arm of the Lord revealed?...........

The kings of the earth are the people talking.. Not Isaiah..

In all your Igboness are you also Catholic?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 4:33pm On Aug 12, 2020

donnie:
Whats has that got to do with sacrificing "his servant Israel"?

You are not well at all... Struggling to make scriptures agree with your fetishes.

Donnie, please just rest, he has told us how he accepts what Isreal's enemies says over what Isreal said!

The very same people who Kept Hidden the Words of the Lord, when they plundered Isreal in Line with What God had already said shall happen.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 4:29pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
I agree with you.. We are using the Bible as standard.. Let's focus on it.. There are other methods of discovering the truth.. I don't doubt it..
But consider this verse from Amos : 7 "For the Lord God does nothing unless He has revealed His secret to His servants, the prophets"

Like, I said I have gone through the old testament and the prophet, I am yet to come accros the one that wrote about God having a son or sending a son as sacrifice for sins. There is just none. So where did the Jesus story come from?.

You understand my anger when my research exposed the fact that he was created at the council of nicea by the Constantine delegates..
It means I have made a fool of my self believing falsehood..

You show me a place in the old testament where God said he had a son and was sending him for us to kill him as sacrifice, I will should it out loud here that Jesus is real.. Show me..

I can understand your anger only when I have a basis to measure it.

I have seen you deny the Truth of the Bible whether what is called old testament or new testament.

Then I have seen you take hold of both old and new testament at your pleasure.

Then, with me, you directly declared that the Bible you believe in is from Genesis to Deuteronomy that the other books are inconsequential.

Look at this journey, does this person sound reasonable and stable?

There is no Identifiable standard with which to measure you which is why, though I hate the things you say, your instability makes it even worse.

So are you going to ever stand or fall by a Principle ? Because the only Identifiable principle I have seen is that you Hate the One who we call Jesus Christ and it is now you have disclosed the source of your hatred, which itself is an untrue testimony.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 3:58pm On Aug 12, 2020

Maximus69:
None of this aforementioned hanged out alone!

Noah's GROUP were eight in number! 1Peter 3:20

Abraham's GROUP were many when they left Ur for Canaan! Genesis 11:31

Israel (Jacob) moved with his GROUP! Genesis 46:6

David moved with his GROUP! 2Samuel 15:14

None of them moved alone, and all those with them were having one mind as they move together!

Of course, when I say alone you know or ought to know that I did not mean Single, At all times but alone as in the Walking with God when compared to the greater multitude.

David was even alone before he acquired followers and he walked with God, Isreal was alone and was walking with God from when he left Issac to go to Laban.

As I said before, hang on to your crowd, I refuse to keep company with the many.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 2:40pm On Aug 12, 2020*

sonmvayina:
Jewish history is different from igbo history, but the laws of God is the same on planet earth..

And you know the Laws of God better than Isreal Whom the Lord, Himself, through Moses, gave Isreal The Laws?

The same One, Who did many wonderful things to Isreal, which even lasted enough for us to see today and we are witnesses to?

The same One Who spoke to Isreal?

Well I do not know the all of Igbo history which you may know but I do Certainly know that God did not use the Igbo people to show the World His Power and Might and Fear Neither Did He Speak to Them Nor Did He give Them His Commandments.

So you can not know more than the Bible and all your testimony which is inconsistent with the Bible is Untrue and can not be believed and therefore Never Acceptable!

Neither are you in any position to say that what is written in the Bible is not True for you do not know what you say.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 2:30pm On Aug 12, 2020

Maximus69:
The Jewish religious system was complex back in the first century but God's Holy Spirit landed only on one certain GROUP the name of that GROUP was "Christians"! Act 11:16

So i'm OK with the idea of GROUP!

: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

You can hang on to your group, I prefer being Alone as Noah, Abraham, Isreal formerly Jacob, David and Others.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:47pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
What I said is the Torah is the heart and soul of the Bible because it contains the laws of God the creator. Every other is just a footnote.. What ever you believe must be in line with God's laws, if not it is not of God.. Deuteronomy 6:4 says "the lord your God is one lord".. Which Isaiah also echoed in his prophesies...
What is it you don't understand?

Now you are changing your word, again, for your disciutenanced every other book after Deuteronomy.

Come to think of it, are you Nigerian Jew, like Nnamdi Kanu Jew, because I do not think that you are Jewy Jew?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:34pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
So when did he say he was going to do that?.. So the Muslims can also be right, your God might also have appointed Muhammad as his prophet..

Why are you not listening to him.. Or following his teaching.

The only way to distinguish truth from falsehood is to go to the beginning to find out if what came later comply with what was given before.. And I did that and found that Jesus broke all the sacrificial laws given in leviticus and the laws given by God.. So it was easy to know he is just fake.. Same with Muhammad too..
A spirit cannot impregnate a human being. To believe that means you have to suspend the use of your brain..

Except you are a moroon.

You say only one way for discovering the Truth which is why you are blind for you see little

I see many ways and the Power of The Truth is that in All Those Ways, if it is the Truth, it remains the same and unchanged, like the sun and moon looks the same whether in Abuja or Saudi Arabia.

So it is with the Word of God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:08pm On Aug 12, 2020

Maximus69:
So if i can't find such a group of imperfect humans who are united in LOVE, JOY and PEACE that means Jesus' story was a lie!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are serving as a certain fulfillment of what Jesus' prayed for, so i believe Jesus lives through what i'm seeing happening in their midst!

I understand that you are A Group Man, it your choice, But The Truth of the Lord is Established Forever and it Does Not require any Group of Persons to Give it Life.

It is Even rather the Giver of Life.Proverbs 4:20-27

20 My son, give attention to my words;
Incline your ear to my sayings.

21 Do not let them depart from your eyes;
Keep them in the midst of your heart;

22 For they are life to those who find them,
And health to all their flesh.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 12:55pm On Aug 12, 2020

Maximus69:
Well that's your own opinion Sir!

Jesus fervently prayed for his followers to be of one mind {John 17:20-23} and also said that his followers will be the salt of the world and like a lamp that's kept in the highest part of the house so that all eyes can see it! Matthew 7:13-16 compare to Micah 4:1

So if i can't find such a group of imperfect humans who are united in LOVE, JOY and PEACE that means Jesus' story was a lie!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are serving as a certain fulfillment of what Jesus' prayed for, so i believe Jesus lives through what i'm seeing happening in their midst!

Yes sir, it is my own opinion! But as I said, this is the place for the presentations of reasonable personal opinions which shall be subjected to queries if it seen to be faulty and Untrue!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 12:50pm On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
My creator is 1,not part of a group.. And definitely not part of his creation.. I obey his commandments when he said "do not have any other God before me"
Obedience is better than sacrifice..

Beside him there is no other.. Isaiah 45:1-10

Now you use Isaiah but you said you do believe in Isaiah calling them 'stories' "histories of the Jewish people".

That for you, the Bible ends in Deuteronomy!

So now henceforth I would use the scriptures both in Isaiah and other Prophets against you where applicable But I already know that you shall once again say that you do not believe in it,

so as Jacob says 'you are unstable as water", you are inconsistent and speak from all sides of your mouth so as to escape correction.

But it is your right to behave unstably.

So, As I said, The Highest, created me and I am Lower than some other creations.

Thus if the Highest, Appoints any other Creation Greater I , Even An Angel, to Rule over me, I will Obey and Comply.

You do as you will and desire, it is your own soul.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 12:26pm On Aug 12, 2020

Maximus69:
Offended!

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

What i'm waiting to hear from all you critics of is to present a better performing group where any honest hearted and sincere person can observe the qualities of true Christianity!

Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" Matthew 7:20

Notice that i have noticed/observed the FRUIT of God's holy spirit amongst the JWs that's why i abandoned Islam to join them, please present a better performing group that's practicing Christianity in the right sense, after all if you can observe falsehood you should also be able to observe the Truth, abi are you trying to say that you can see the church of Christ today?

You are right that there is No Single Group or Collection keeping and obeying the Word and Spirit of the Lord and I Do say, Not One.

I counsel.that everyone should come to their conclusions for themselves, by themselves. Not relying on the untested and unverified work of another.

I honestly did not accept or believe the Bible Until I Tested It By myself and verified it for myself, which is why I can comfortably and confidently Say that All of It, is True and Any Other that is not True, Always falls as soon as the tests begin.

A Doctor who is Truly a Doctor is not afraid of a Medical Examination, so also a Lawyer, an Engineer, IT guys.

No one would place his life in a surgeon who is afraid of scalpel!

So it is for the Kingdom of God and the Word of God!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 11:56am On Aug 12, 2020

Janosky:
Please continue to console yourself.
Your claims on this thread is false and very far from the truth.

John 17:3 exposed your TWISTS of 1John5:20.
John 17:3 confirm that NWT is more accurate than your twisted NKJV

Son, I understand your anguish and pain but I have no power to bring you such misery!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 11:29am On Aug 12, 2020

Janosky:
Because you want to force me to swallow your JUNK ,GIBBERISH that God Almighty sent himself bah ?

John 7:16
"Jesus answered, “What I teach is not my own teaching, but it comes from God, who sent me"

Continue to DECEIVE YOURSELF

.

force you?

I am not the one forcing you go and check again who is forcing you.

Maybe when you feel the force again say "Here am i Lord, speak to me" grin

You are talking to the wrong person.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 11:19am On Aug 12, 2020

Maximus69:
Jehovah's Witnesses, may the true God reward you guys for locating me despite the hostility i displayed towards you people back then, i thank you all from the bottom of my heart!

Can you see the post you're responding to on this thread?
Notice how every word is backed with a scripture and the commentator emphasized on the virtuous attributes that's of great benefit to those involved and those around them feel safe.
A former Muslim who knew anything in the scriptures before i met JWs, is now quoting and applying the words with wisdom, but all you can do is to start spewing gibberish that's of no gain neither to you nor others around you!
I pity your condition!

I respect everyones opinion which is always subject to reasonable comments, with limits thereof, for everyone is endowed by God to hold their own opinions, so I do not concern myself with these matters.

However, today, Op has raised an observation he has observed, which is also something I have observed and we are making our fair and True comments on it, which we also have a right to do.

So we do know that you shall be offended by our comments, yes and True, but we are not trying to offend your kind but Rather we are commenting about our observations.

All in all, this is a Place of Fair, Reasonable (and I wish Truthful) Comments!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 11:02am On Aug 12, 2020

Janosky:
You are lost, you are not even better than the OP who FALSELY claims that his Jesus is the Almighty Father.

Continue to console yourself with FICTITIOUS claims

Says a person who reads and accepts a Specifically Interpreted work or let me Clearly Put it to You, A Doctored and Altered work, done by another person Rather than process for himself, his own True Interpretation as he can reasonably glean for himself.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:54am On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
LOL... Your Jesus is an idol.. I worship my creator.. And I am 100% sure he is not the son of a Jewish olosho..

You worship what you choose to worship or whatever you claim to Worship, that is your Creator Given Right

I Worship The Highest and His Appointed, Who is A God Over us and I Respect Every Higher Being and Authorities Greater than I.

Christianity Etc › Re: Should The Church Submit To Government Control ? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:21am On Aug 12, 2020

If they had subjected themselves to the Rule of God which they came from, they would have been the Ones who ruled through God.

But they are not of God, so everyone shall rule over them and they shall be subject to every ruler as you said Romans 13:1
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers."

It is the Law, the lesser shall always be subject to the Greater or as we say
"When the Greater Comes, the lesser stops"

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:10am On Aug 12, 2020

Maximus69:
Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" Matthew 7:20

The JWs have their own translation of the Bible, so far so good they have the best arrangement for preaching and teaching effectively {Matthew 28:19-20} they have made all their members globally surrendered harmful weapons and embrace PEACE {Matthew 26:52} they have form a global family of peace loving worshipers {John 17:20-23} and they're known everywhere as a unique group that's orderly! 1Corinthians 14:33, 40

All these is what resulted from their study as they are using their own Translation of the Bible NWT. Matthew 7:16-18

So let the world see the result of your own FAITH {James 2:18-26} first before complaining about those whose fine works is obvious! Matthew 5:14-16

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Oh! That explains it! "Their own Explanation"Not Necessarily if it is True. But as Long As "their own" has "explained it" in the way they have explained it, it is Acceptable and Perfect to your kind.

No problem, at least we now know why you guys are the way you are and the strange spirit that Follows you.

And we also see your fruits, respectfully, it is Disgusting!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:03am On Aug 12, 2020

sonmvayina:
Judaism and Christianity are two different religions... The Jesus character is a creation of rome. He has got nothing to do with God..

God is consciousness, outside of space and time.. Not part of creation.

Says the Crazy one who worships, creations, himself and his fellow man!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of The Jws!!! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:02am On Aug 12, 2020

I say this with all respect and Truth that I have seen and I witnessed, their book that resembles our Bible is Seriously Twisted!

This Excerpt and the almost the Whole writings in their book have a Strange spirit!

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Christianity Etc › Re: So Will I by Dtruthspeaker: 8:19am On Aug 12, 2020

blackpanthar:
Next time, use the song to get yourself deep into the realm of the spirit.... coming here to tell everyone about it YEARS AFTER IT WAS RELEASED... will only reduce the effect it has on you over time.

The secret place has many secrets... WE DO NOT EXPOSE OUR SECRETS.

Stay with the song and use it to access things in the spirit rather than coming down to this human realm to talk about it.

I understand why you say this but I have seen that even when we tell them our Secrets, they can not Understand (exactly as it is Written).

And when we disclose it, they can never use it, cheesy

God is Indeed Mighty and There is No Cheat Move any can make to take His Goodness and yet Reject Him!

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