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LikeAking:
RELIGION PROMOTES TIMIDITY.

SECONDLY THOSE CONTROLLING THE CHURCH DONT WANT OTHERS TO ENJOY LIFE ON EARTH,BUT THE LEADERS OF THE CHURCH ARE FLEXING SECRETLY.

BECOME FREE FROM BONDAGE SHARPLY.

NO GO DULL YOURSELF WITH THE MASSES.

ITS A ROUTE FOR THE MASSES DEM,NOT KINGS.

Weak people promote timidity and weak people buy timidity and it is the weak and foolish that are enslaved by any one and everyone whether in church or in the office or in the family.

It is seen that where there is a group of people, there is enslavement and it is always the weak and foolish who are enslaved.

budaatum:
Jesus central message is that you should learn to love one another instead of ignorantly tearing one another apart. He championed reading and promoted understanding so you wouldn't be preyed upon with ignorant ideas and beliefs of the sort the op accuses Christians of ignorantly holding on to.

I'd advise that the op learn his Christianity from the Book instead of relying on the practise of the ill-informed who focus on the finger instead of the moon.

Yep, and after all learning and writing the "exams" He shall thereafter evaluate our Performance.

Kufie:
Good day sir,

Not anymore. The section from Itu - Calabar is impassable. I did Lagos - Calabar just this Sunday and this was my route;

Lagos (through epe) - Ijebu Ode - Ore - Benin - Asaba - Enugu - Ebonyi (Afikpo) - Itigidi - Ugep - Calabar. This took a total of 14 hours and the little corolla did well. It's a long journey so make plans to fly back if you can.

PS There's major construction work going on on the Onitsha-Owerri express so one lane is closed. Avoid that route like a plague. Earlier this month I was stuck there for an hour while driving back to Lagos from Aba. It's horrific.

Whow Itu is still bad? Nyaaaa! So no Calabar for me this Christmas. Ooooh crap!

And I do not know that Afikpo end. Please is it kind of straight?

And does Ugep-Calabar run through Ikom Road to Calabar too?

lastchild:
Why is almost everything enjoyed in the world called sin? 


I know a pastor currently being punished in his church for watching bbnaija and tweeting about it when everyother person is free to watch 


My cousin attended "night of a thousand laugh" and the church demoted him from the position he held


When an unbeliever is seen with a woman, everybody hails him and when a believer is seen, everybody persecutes him 


I went to bet9ja shop to book a game, I saw one of the people I preached to, the guy was surprised, he said am not supposed to be here while he was with his own bet slip 


I know a priest whom was termed worldly and imoral just because he always play psquare songs in his car, while everyother person is free to play any type of song 


I traveled to Ghana, imidiately I arrived, I felt free because no one knows me here and I realized that I've been in prison and now free to be myself 


Is their anyone else feeling this imprisoned as a believer?

Oh! See bondage wey you don let Pharisee put on top ya body or Na you put am.

Did Christ not say come and carry my yoke, that it is light? It is you who is carrying other people's luggages and yet complaining about it.

Travellerslodge:
The world is never ending , its when you are dead the world as ended for you .

No one can Prove it while the world is still going on, but that does not mean that it will not end!

For, we can see, that Good is finishing in this world and when Good is finished, wickedness and evil will destroy itself for wickedness Destroys and it will even commit Sucide to Perfect it's Work of Destruction!

still gnawing on that bone?

The Central Message is that " A time Cometh when no man shall work" - He Cometh to Judge All, both their Works and Idle or Willful Words!

Modified!
But He gave us glimpses of the types of Judgements we shall get, how the judgment shall be arrived at and how we may obtain favourable Judgments!

orisa37:
Yes you're right.

The Problem is from BABEL. RELIGION.

The PROBLEMS are the Need to reconcile the Differences of Languages, Tribes, Times and Power & Might.

Then we make Arrangements, Covenants and Contacts written and unwritten, the violation of which Becomes SIN to Man and to God.

That's to say, OFFER AND ACCEPTANCE must agree and not made a CONDITION OF A DICTATING OFFEROR.

That's what Natural Law Guarantees and Ensures for it is stated "The Tenets of the Law is To Live Honestly, Hurt No One and Render to Every One His Due."

But, Thieves, Murderers, Liars and Deceitful Men will Never want Natural Law to Weild it's Right and Good Power, for they would not be able to take advantage over their fellow man to make undue profits and wealth.

Equality, fairness and balance is an abomination to a wicked man. Unless he steals and cause someone to cry, a wicked man shall not be happy.

sonmvayina:
You have to loose those your beliefs and really educate yourself...

The purpose is for you to know... Not believe absurdities..

I love Only Truths! Verified Truths. Obtained from Proper Source and Custody by Due Process!

Truths Stand the test of Proper Examination. That is what I believe in and no one could properly fault it, Not even you. So, I am very fine in my Belief!

You on the other hand had to Lie and resort to Insults in other to survive the fire of examination.

Minsk24:
Noted.....
The purpose of this thread is to combine some scientific study with some religious beliefs to answer some questions....
Many religious folks are quick to dismiss Science especially when threads involving our planet, radio-carbon dating... Pre-historic ages, e.t.c pop on nairaland...
They are quick to dismiss the scientific facts as a NASA-Led conspiracy to confuse humans away from religion..

What you are really attempting to do is to compare one study of people who of a certain disposition as against another of a different disposition, neither can ever be conclusive to each other neither shall it be acceptable to the other.

And my answer is that is the beauty and Proof of being a Creation, the Study of the Work of his Creator is Eternal and then when one creation tells his fellow creation about the things he has seen Eternal Argument too is unavoidable

Like Tundra and Prado discussing about their knowledge of the borehole, oh, how endless and entertaining it must be to man, the Creator of the borehole.

I think it is not profitable but that is my own view anyway!

orisa37:
Companies Act is Companies Law based on all Economic CONTRACT RULES of DEMAND and SUPPLY, THE FUNDAMENTAL BASIS OF ALL ENGLISH JURISPRUDENCE.

ENGLISH JURISPRUDENCE ASSUMES PRODUCTIVITY, PRICES AND INCOMES POLICY INTERPLAY IN ALL CONTRACTS WRITTEN AND UNWRITTEN.

AND SO, HAPHAZARD ARRANGEMENTS IN LAW IS ONLY COMMON IN NIGERIA SYSTEM AND THIS MAKES NIGERIA ABYSMALLY CORRUPT.

CAMA Is just the Fraudulent Thing that the British Thieves used for themselves in England, to have an Agreement on how they should not defraud one another too much.

To Defraud, Steal and Kill is their Speciality!

Then they brought it here and planted it in Nigeria because Natural Law which governed Nigerian economic affairs and all things makes them immediately guilty of Several Offences and Crimes.

And typical of the Nigerian, who does not know his God Given Rights neither does he want to know it nor does he even think whether that which he accepts, whether it is good to him.

Natural Law has Catered for Everything but Fraudulent People have made their own Fraudulent Versions (CAMA) for people to Cheat, Steal and by Trickery, Take What Properly, Naturally and Truly Belongs To Another.

No one will be able to do any form of fraud or wickedness to you if you knew and uphold your God-given Rights!

Science means to Study, Observe and Acquire Information. Religion means habit and usual practice.

Science Religion or Religious Science means the Practice of Studying, Observation and Acquiring information.

Please be guided!

lightblazingnow:
Awesome guy

Oh, you like Somvayina? Ok Noted!

If only they will hear, but we shall not be tireless in telling them that if they fail to turn from their wickednes and,do the Right, The Judgments of the Lord shall fall on them.

Blabbermouth:
Sometimes I ask so many silly questions because I want to know more...
You said "My word is me. I am my word", you are 100% right sir.
But I need a straight YES or No.
Is your word a person?

The first understanding you need to know is that a A man's word is Always Less than the man.

Secondly, the Power of the word depends on the power of the man giving the word. Meaning, the word of an Ant shall be the power of an ant. The word of a man shall be the power of a man and the Word of Who We Call a God, Must has the Power of a God.

Therefore, the word of a man is Almost but Not The whole Person of the man who gives his word.

For as I said earlier, the word of a person is always less than the Person because the word derives its power from the person but the person does not need his own words to have power.

The Person has power already with or without his word.

Blabbermouth:
Is Your Word a Person?
Is God's word a person?

Your Word is Power! Remember, power in the tongue.

All life is regulated and ordered by Power. Therefore, Power Has Made it so that I should not be able to walk in the river but I have power to swim in and over it.

Power has dictated that I shall never climb a wall as a Lizard or Spider but I shall be able to build a ladder.

Power has dictated that while I can build great machines and devices the elephant can not.

Power Rules and bendeth All things beneath it, according to its Will and Strength!

Flee from the fluttering of her eyes and the pouting of her mouth for her house is death and her way leadeth to depths of hell that you shall not escape from.

Blabbermouth:
No sir, the challenge is not about proving Trinity. The challenge was, proof that Jesus was "Divinity become humanity".

Ok, then the Proof is still in Genesis 1 Verse 3: "And God Said,..; Verse 6, Verse 9, Verse 11, etc.

When The Highest Spoke, The One Who we Call the Jesus the Christ, Comes Forth and you know it is the Law, that, that which is born of yam, is yam, that which is born of flesh, is flesh, that which is born of the Spirit, is Spirit and that which is born of the Divine, is Divine!

Jameslad:
I. These are the Universe Laws which must followed. It will catch up later, if it doesn’t. now. While I am not asking you to be a saint, I am not asking you to be a sinner either.

Have a blessed week ❤️

Source: https://jameslads..com/2020/08/the-issue-of-morals-spirituality-in.html?m=1

Meanwhile it is Saints The Lord is Looking them Only, will He Accept. The Law is "Be ye Holy..."

holy-sinner is still not acceptable with the Lord! The Law is "Be Hot or be Cold" Lukewarm is Unacceptable.

The Proof of the Trinity is seen in the beginning, Genesis 1:2 "And the Spirit of God...,

Verse 3: "And God Said,.. verse 4: "And God saw..."

Genesis 1, God, The King Who Sits on the Throne (The Father, The Most High, The Most Holy, The Most Powerful, The Creator) in Revelation Commanded All These things to be done.

When He Who Sits on the Throne Speaks or Spoke, The One Who we call Christ Jesus (the Son) is Brought Forth and it is He Who is Called The Word of God!

Chapter 2 verse 3, The Father Blessed and Inaugurated Everything Created and The Son (The Word) took over the Management and Control of All these things He Created as we are later told.

That is why I verse 4: We are clearly told that it is The Son, The Word of God Who Created heavens and earth by the Instruction of the Father, King o the Throne.

And He is A Lord, A God Over All His Creations hence, the word "Lord God" is first used.

And thereafter, the Lord God administered Creations and created the man in obedience to the Instruction of the Most High God.

The Holy Spirit you Already know is The Power of God in Motion or in Action.

Three Holy Different Persons Coming Out from The Holy of Holies, Who Has Not Yet Moved From His Throne!

And by Genesis 11, The Word of God and The Son Who is Called, The Lord God, is Now in Full Control of the activities in heaven and earth, While The Father and King on the Throne is Silent and rarely Speaks!

This is an appreciably balanced write up. I loved it!

jumia1:
I disagreed with you

Why do you disagree?

CodeTemplar:
Even you know you aren't making any sense.

Ow, you do not understand. Just think on it and know your God given rights not the false and adulterated and fraudulent rights given by men.

Man can not give you rights and has no power to do so, for you have them already and they are yours, as Given By God, the Creator of All!

And if he can give you rights, you can give him too and which is going to prevail? None!

Kobojunkie:
These churches are businesses. So every gift they receive ought to be documented and accounted for, just as it applies with every other non-profit business out there.

Wrong! Every Permissible Personal Business is Entitled to its Fruits of its business without restriction.

Natural Law says, "He who takes the risk, Must take the rewards"

Any who has no reasonable connection to the business, is a Meddlesome Interloper and has no Locus Standi in the matter.

They must Stay Out and they must not be allowed in!

It is Public Companies That are Monitored by the CAC and Properly so monitored meanwhile they have abandoned their Job of protecting the people from Wonder Banks, they fall woefully at it.

They have no Locus Standi in the matter and they can never have it, if the church have good counsel.

Further, they do not make profits but it is provided that they should receive gifts!

CodeTemplar:
Oga the constitution allows for private interaction among citizens and all.

How I wish you would see and learn that it Natural Law (God's Laws) that Provides for All Things on the earth, not Rubbish Constitution.

Constitution is man made law which means man is greater than his law, and therefore every man can happily and easily break the Constitution.

Because the created can not rule over the Creator but it is the Creator who rules over the created like Camry can never control Mr Toyoda for an instant but Mr Toyoda Always Controls the Camry!

But No Man made Natural Law and Natural is Greater than All men.

Therefor, the Correct Law as provided by Natural Law, between man to man is called Fair Agreements or Fair Contract which is covered in the Principle 'Because You Give, I Give"!

Hence, the Law is Always made by Consent or "Consent, Makes the Law!"

Preciousgirl:
U need to study about parralelism in Jewish Literature

It is the Spirit of the Principles and Laws and Admonishings and Counsels contained in the Bible, which, after studying them trying them out, Behold, they are True and they Work Exactly as it was Written.

And I Have been happily secured ever since for years and years, so I will surely be resistant to study any work that did not give me Counsel when I sought it and neither would I set aside the Bible which Counselled me Successfully through all I have gone through from the time I could reason as a child till I am now having a hoary head.

I will do my best to avoid making the mistake that Solomon made as he declared "for in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow" Ecclesiastes 1:18

I'll prefer to hang on to the Lord who kept me safe from my childhood till now, for the remainder of my time on earth for I will

"Remember now my Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;" Ecclesiastes 12:1

And I will always remember Who brought me as Kirk Franklin would say "from a mighty long way"

To me, the Words in the Bible (KjV) are Accurately Spoken and Written and are Greater than any other work in the world!

budaatum:
Glad to hear.

Not to have the last word, but in my own opinion, there's so much more to Jesus than literally believing what we read and are told about him

We can not know more about Him beyond what we have read or have been told of Him, for He is Not Man, even though He Looked like a Man.

But, when He Reveals Himself to You, you would know more than what is written or said of Him.

budaatum:
He, for instance, never believed the stuff that was believed in his day, and was crucified for daring to think and reason different to how those around him did.

That is Another Major Difference Between Him and us, He Clearly Knew Right from Wrong, Good from Bad or evil. And He supported All that was Good, which is not popular among the children of men while he was against all the Bads and wrongs and wickedness and evil, which is very popular among men.

So naturally, He shall be different from the population.

budaatum:
And when we become as little children and abandon the childish things that we are told to believe and start to use the brains that God has put into our heads instead, we too will be mightily blessed.

And you got it Right only to finish wrongfully at the bolded! The secret is Children know that they do not know, hence they learn.

When a man uses his head as you said, he has to pray that he is right whereas if he had learnt from Christ, he would be certain that he is right, for there is no stumbling or fall when you walk in the Accurate Teachings of Christ.

budaatum:
Anyway, I'm certain this won't be my last word here as Offpoint asked a thinking person's question and I'm interested in your response. Might I suggest however that you cut down on the insults and condemnations and lies, as its not exactly Jesus fertilized fruit.

I have answered offpoint but I do know that Understanding Is Given By The Lord, so therefore without it, he shall have great difficulty in comprehending my answer, for if he did, he would either have a question that flows from my answer or if he is noble, he shall express his enlightenment or stay silent.

Further, i do not think I Insulted anyone I just think that they took offence when none was given.

Successdude:
aside that, you would have easily asked him to die for even one day. let's see how he responds

It would have been a bad answer.

Csonice1:
God bless you.

Same to you, sir!

Preciousgirl:
Which God again apart from the God spoken of in the verses above

Just saw the end of your post, Christ is God Over us, BUT He is Not The Most High God, the Father of All Creation.

In Revelation 4:2, you See There is He Who Sits on the Throne and we already know that Christ is the Lamb who opened the Seals in Revelation 5:5-9 (Also Revelations 19:11 Particularly verse 13 which matches John 1:1.)

"That is why it Written as we Sing "To Him, Who Sits on the Throne and To The Lamb, be the Blessings and glory and honour and power, forever" Revelation 5:13
"saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto Him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

The Most High and Father of All, Sits on the Throne, Always!

allthingsgood:
What I don't understand is why oyedepo is always fighting Nigerian govt but willingly submits to UK govt and other foreign national why his church is domiciled?

The Rule of Engagement was clear before he settled in and it is not Arbitrarily Changed.

So he knew what he was getting into beforehand but in Nigeria, there is a right way of doing things but Nigerians, eh...

allthingsgood:
Also more importantly why does Nigerian pastors always threaten anybody that dissents with spiritual curse?? Any explanation pls

That is where they can lawfully and properly war without hurting persons not connected to the fight!

jumia1:
Senior special assistant to President Muhammadu Buhari on social media, Lauretta Onochie has slammed Bishop David Oyedepo for criticizing the application of the Company and Allied Matters Acts (CAMA) in churches, following its signing into law by President Muhammadu Buhari on August 7, 2020.

LIB reported earlier that the founder of Living Faith Church Worldwide who questioned the rationality behind subjecting churches to same laws as companies, averred that such laws were borne out of government’s jealousy about the prosperity recorded by the church.

Reacting to Oyedepo’s comment, Lauretta Onochie stated that as long as Oyedepo lives and operates within the entity called Nigeria, he will live by Nigerian rules and laws. She added that for Oyedepo to live by his own laws, he will have to manufacture his own country.

Her tweet read;

I hope this is not true. If it is, Oyedepo will have to manufacture his own country and live by his own laws. As long as he lives and operates within the entity called Nigeria, he will live by Nigerian rules and laws. He will do as he’s told by the law

Enough of lawlessness

Read further here:https://wahalablog.com/as-long-as-oyedepo-lives-and-operates-within-the-entity-called-nigeria-he-will-live-by-nigerian-rules-and-laws-lauretta-onochie/

The Law is Always Just and Good and Right made for a Good Purpose, While it Respects God Given Rights at the same time.

Because all Kingdoms and Rules and Government enjoy the Support of God the Creator if it is Right and Fair and Good. Which is why it is Written that A kingdom is Established in RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Wrongness and Badness and Wickedness will Destroy Every Rule. That is the Law of God!

Therefore when man makes laws for others, It Must Be Good, else the bad law must be challenged and removed or he shall be removed together with all his bad laws. That is what the Lord Done.

But men do not always make good laws, hence such bad laws must be challenged and resisted.

The Law Must Always Be Good for people follow it and abide with it!

Csonice1:
Honestly.

And his views, very disgusting, one time, it is okay even perfect at another time, you want to catch his shit and shove it back into his soul and rip his tongue out so he never speaks again

Typical case of blowing hot and cold!