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JESUS IS LORD FOREVER!!!

dis has bn happenning in d north since ages past...remember while i was growing up in kano, a christian girl was jazzed n next she left home to her "husband's" house n had even become muslim...d case kept bn adjourned by d Emir until d parents successfully abducted her n "waybilled"her immediately to d East...after som prayers she came bk to her self n explained eating at her hausa friends house after which d madness started...i never understood y my mom always warned me never to visit any of my hausà classmates in their houses until i started hearing such stories.God hlp us

gypsey:
Wow! Nigeria has become like, pakistan, Afhganistan and the saudi, what next? People marrying their cousins and nieces? That's if they are not already doing that.
I say put all them dullards in the other room or kitchen

Hausa muslims marry cousins everyday na...dats a norm

TeamSimple:
And who is here to drag with you about religion supremacy.
Stop being ashamed,you are a christian,so dont tell me being a non muslim makes one a christian by default.

Well let the world also enjoy the impact of extremism now so that when it stops and in 100yrs time the people then will also term this period 'dark ages'.

As for you question,if the LSR ,Crusadees and anti balakas killed muslims because they are not christians and does not believe in christ,then in whose name did they commit their crime?

Alway looking for watery point to backup whats defenseless.

and who said he was taking abt himself?...even atheists are tagged Christians by u lot so long as d person isnt muslim...smh

all dis dummys calling Igbos una well so?so wherever an english name is seen na igbo?...and who told u morons uduefe is an igbo name?smh

i wonder wat d devil is doing in a "holy" site...and everyyear millions of stones are thrown at dis "devil" yet him no dey die...

in such situations u wont find those northern thugs to carry out "justice"....isnt this an insult to there religion?...just say a lil insignigicant word n dey appear frm nowhr screaming blasphemy

16.

And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. —Mark 15:25

…about the sixth hour…they cried out…crucify him….Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. —John 19:14-16

here it says from vs 13 n i quote :
"When Pilate heard dis,he brought Jesus out and sat down on the judge's seat at a place known as the stone pavement(Which in Aramaic is Gabbatha).It was the day of preparation of passover week,about the sixth hour"
Mr man incase u dont understand english ,he faced Pilate about the sixth hour and wasnt crucified then...i dont have tbe time to go through all of ur listed Bible contradictions.bt i'd advice u read through every chapter you quote and stop doing cut and paste

Submit yourself to every ordinance of man…to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors. —I Peter 2:13

stop picking n reading out of context u are literate atleast. I Peter 2 vs 13-15 says:
"submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men:whether to the king,as the supreme authority,or to the governors who are sent by him to punish those who do right.For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men"


We ought to obey God rather than men. —Acts 5:29
dis statement was made by Peter when he and other apostles were arrested and sanctioned never to preach in the name of JESUS...so whats the contradiction here?

DabELLs:
Oga sharrap. BIble has more contradictions than any other religous books in the world.

.1.

Thou shalt not kill. —Exodus 20:13

Thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side. and slay every man his brother…companion…neighbor. —Exodus 32:27

2.

The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. —Revelation 8:7

And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. —Revelation 9:4

3.

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord. —Proverbs 12:22

The Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. —I Kings 22:23

4.

And in the fifth month, on the seventh day of the month…Nebuzaradan…came…unto Jerusalem… —2 Kings 25:8

…in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month…came Nebuzaradan…into Jerusalem… —Jeremiah 52:12

5.

For by grace are ye saved through faith…not of works. —Ephesians 2:8,9

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. —James 2:24

6.

Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. —2 Kings 24:8

Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… —2 Chronicles 36:9

7.

Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy…and they shall be your possession…they shall be your bondmen forever. —Leviticus 25:45-46

Undo the heavy burdens…let the oppressed go free,…break every yoke. —Isaiah 58:6

8.

For I am the Lord; I change not. —Malachi 3:6

And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. —Exodus 32:14

9.

For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. —Exodus 20:5

The Lord is good to all. —Psalms 145:9

10.

No man hath seen God at any time. —John 1:18

For I have seen God face to face. —Genesis 32:30

11.

For every man shall bear his own burden. —Galatians 6:2

Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. —Galatians 6:2

12.

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. —Romans 3:23

There was a man…who name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright. —Job 1:1

13.

Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. —II Kings 8:26

Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. —II Chronicles 22:2

14.

Submit yourself to every ordinance of man…to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors. —I Peter 2:13

We ought to obey God rather than men. —Acts 5:29

15.

And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. —Mark 16:2

The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. —John 20:1

16.

And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. —Mark 15:25

…about the sixth hour…they cried out…crucify him….Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. —John 19:14-16

17.

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned… —Romans 5:12

Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death. —John 8:51

18.

Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. —Genesis 9:3

It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall. —Romans 14:21

19.

Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?…And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly… —Matthew 27:13-14

Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and sa

talking about contradictions of the Bible ,lemme take u through memory lane in ur book which u claim to be perfect

Who misleads people? Satan or Allah?
According to verse 4:119-120, Satan (the rejected one) is the one who creates false desires and misleads people. Refer also 15:42. However, according to verse 16:93, it is God who leaves people astray as He wills! See also 4:78.
(4:119-120)
"I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires....." (says Satan)
"Satan make them promises and creates in them false hopes...." (vouched by Allah)
(16:93)
"If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people. But He leaves straying whom He pleases and He guides whom He pleases ...."


4. Attitude towards unbelieving parents
Al-Quran givens contradicting information as to what a believer should do when unbelieving parents and brothers insist on worshipping their gods. Verse 31:15 asks believers to keep company with unbelieving parents even if they insist (on following their religion?), but verse 9:23 asks believers not to take their fathers and brothers as protectors if they disbelieved!
(31:15)
"But if they strive
(Jahada) to make thee join in worship with Me things of which thou hast no knowledge, obey them not; yet bear them company in this life with justice (and consideration)..."
(9:23)
"O ye who believe! Take not protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above faith: If any of you do so, they do wrong"


5. Which enters the Paradise: Soul or Body or Both?
After resurrection, it is the body (after reuniting with the soul?) which enters the Paradise. This has been emphasized throughout the Book. See verses 13:5, 17:98-99, 20:55, 34:7, 75:3-4. However verses 27-30 in Sura 89 state that it is the Soul ( Nafs )* which enters the Garden!
(17:99)
"See they not that Allah who created the heavens and the earth has the power to create the like of them (anew)? ...."
(75:3-4)
"Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones? Nay we are able to to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers..."
(89:27-30)
(To the righteous soul will be said) "O (tho) soul, in (complete) rest and satisfaction! Come back thou to thy Lord - well pleased (thyself), and well-pleasing unto Him! Enter thou, thee among my Devotees! Yea, enter thou My Heaven!"
(31:28)
"Your creation and your rising (from the dead) are only as (the creation and the rising of) a single soul..."
(Pickthall)
In Islam, the bliss in Paradise is not complete without the corporeal and sense pleasures. Otherwise, how can one drink Zanzabil (76:17), feel the moderate temperature (76:13), enjoy maidens (55:56) and drink honey and milk (47:16-17). These are all joys in state for the faithful.
Yousuf Ali (note 6128 for verse 89:27-30) also says that it is the soul which enters the heaven, and not the gross body which perishes (His comment is contradictory to what verse 75:3-4 says!). Read verse 31:28 also. It says man's creation or resurrection is in no wise but as an individual soul * . Pickthall's translation (see box above) is more clear.
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* Unlike in Vedic scriptures, the Quran does not clearly recognize the SOUL as a distinct entity from the BODY. The soul is often referred as a source of all inclinations and desires (3:61, 12:53). The Arabic word `Nafs ' has been translated differently by different translators: as SOUL, MIND, SPIRIT and even as HEART! The word `Nafs ' at times refers to the individual (12:53), sometimes to the Soul (6:93, 39:42), and sometimes to God Himself (6:12,54)!. Of particular interest is verse 21:35 which says "Every soul shall have a taste of death.... " . This verse could mean: (i) that the Soul gets a taste of death after separation from the body, as Yousuf Ali interprets or (ii) that the Individual gets a taste of death as it is generally implied on most occasions (3:61, 51:21). Those who are of the opinion that `Nafs ' in 21:35 only mean the real Soul would then have to consider this verse as another contradiction to verses 39:42 and 89:27-30 which imply that the Soul is taken back by Allah, momentarily during sleep and decisively at death.


6. God needs man or man needs God?
A very clear contradiction exists between verses 51:56 and 35:15. While the former verse says that God created Jinns and mankind for His own reasons (read also 67:2), the latter one says it is man who is in need of God! Read also 51:57.
(51:56)
"I have only created Jinns and men, that they may serve me" *
(67:2)
"He who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is the best in deed"
35:15
"O mankind! It is you that have need of God: but God is the One Free of all wants, worthy of all praise"
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* Of interest in this regard is the popular (but probably fabricated) Hadith: "I was a secret treasure, and I created the creatures in order that I might be known" (* , * )


7. EVIL AND GOOD: Where do they come from?
While one verse says that both Evil and Good issue from Allah, the very next verse says only Good comes from Allah!
(4:78)
".... If some good befalls them, they say "This is from Allah". But if evil, they say "This is from thee" (O prophet). Say: "All things are from Allah....." *
(4:79)
"Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from Allah. But whatever evil happens to thee, is from thyself"


8. Who has to be blamed for BELIEF AND DISBELIEF ?
(6:12)
" It is they who have lost their own souls, that they will not believe"
(10:100)
"No soul can believe except by the will allah"


9. Who has to be blamed for the wrongs done?
(35:
"Allah leaves stray whom He wills and guides whom He wills"
(30:9)
"It was not Allah who wronged them, but they wronged their own souls"


10. UNBELIEVERS: To be persecuted or forgiven?
(9:29)
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth ....."
(45:14)

"Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not hope for the Days of Allah; It is for Him to recompense


11. God's advice to Muhammed on propagating Islam
Here we see two contradicting directives from God on conveying Allah's religion to the people:
(3:20)
"So if they dispute thee, say: "I have permitted my whole self to Allah and so have those who follow me"..... "Do you (also) submit yourselves? If they do, they are in right guidance. But if they turn back, thy duty is to convey the message. And in Allah's sight are (all) His servants"

(8:38-39)
"Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from disbelief), their past would be forgiven; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning to them). And fight them on until there is no more persecution and the religion becomes Allah's in its entirety... "


these my friend are only but a few of d contradictions in ur perfect heavenly book

jelal007:
Now we're getting smwia. U've taken time 2 tell me who the disciples were (which I don't need anyway,cos a learned muslims will knw that),but wat u've failed 2 explain is who. Mathew mark,luke and john were. Their 1st names,which u failed 2 mention. And a single crystal-clear statement wia christ said I am God worship. We muslims,we believe in the phenomenal birth of jesus,his miracles,his message and he never made mention of anything about him being divine. Even wen d people of his time asked him hw de did his miracles...he said: I can of myself do nothing,but wat so ever he who sent me orders me 2do,that wat I do. My point here is that there exaggerations in the bible;things that the romans put there...and it all started with d likes of mathew,mark,luke n john (who were never companions or disciples of jesus christ). Besides,do u know dat u xtians dnt even agree wat d bible is anymore? There r over 500 versions of the bible 2day.U xtians differ on the number of verses n chapters in the bible. I ask u 2 read the history of the church and ask urself sm hard questions. Why should any1 attribute things 2 jesus was he never called himself?

. The view that each translation of the Bible conveys a different message is incorrect. There is only one Bible message that has been translated into hundreds of vocabularies for different readers,depending on each reader's understanding of english language.

I might add that I own four different translations of the qur'an into English (and I know that many more translations exist). One translation says that my husband has the right to "beat me up" if he thinks I might not be "faithful." (To him or to Islam is not clear.) Another translation says my husband can "strike" me. Another translation, the oldest, says my husband can "scourge" me (whip me with a heavy whip until I'm almost dead).

Dis is how is it with these Bible versions,the words just differ and not the content.for instance,John 1 vs 1according to Good News Bible says: "Before the world was created,the Word already existed;he was with God,and he was the same as God.......... same passage according to the New International version says : "In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God,and the Word was God."
Do u now see d meaning of these versions?n not wat u àre erroneously taught

i have been saying this and will keep saying it,those of u who believe a christian can utter a word against islam in public amongst muslims are simpĺy naive,because we all know what they are capable of.dis people simply use religion to stir up violence because dey know dey will go scot free with it.and for those of u muslims saying a muslim can never insult Jesus dats bullshit.my muslim seatmate back in sch would carry my C.R.K txtbk n all whr "Jesus" appeared,she would cancel n write "lucifer"...dey would mk jest of Jesus' crucifixion n our religion,yet we would keep mute cos one word in ur defence dey would run to their malama n twist ur words.

d woman dat was kiĺled in kano on d basis of blasphemy never uttered a word against islam,her muslim neighbour simply used dat to kill her as is their way..

NO CHRISTIAN CAN EVER UTTER A WORD AGAINST ISLAM IN PUBLIC!!!

kabrud:
These christians are always out looking for problem with the muslims. May be that one thinks he is on nairaland. For God's sake, what is the meaning of this rubbish? U will see them insulting muslims everywhere for no reason only to turn around and start forming the victim. After creating the storm, they will be asking why the rain. Has any muslim ever insulted Jesus Christ? This thing is getting too much. And they know very well that a muslim will never take that from u except if u hide behind the laptop to do that. We shall see the end of this problem they looking for upandan.

stop spewing trash,no christian will utter any such word in public in d north knowing wat u animals re capable of,i've seen alot of such stories,muslims always cook up such false stories to cause mayhem...back wen i was in sch my muslim classmates always said awful tins against our God n d Holy Trinity,yet we we always warned by our christian teachers never to retaliate cos u ppl would turn d story upside down n go on killing spree...shame on u lots

i'm going...mine's at 10am

well done,u just go pack fine girls pics dey mk noise here...i live in kano n d pretty hausa girls re mostly d mixed ones ie with fulanis or shuwa Arabs,n dey stil get worwor girls sef...pure hausa girls are ugly n black like charcoal...every tribe has got its fair share of beautiful n not so beautiful ppl so chill

well done,u just go pack fine girls pics dey mk noise here...i live in kano n d pretty hausa girls re mostly d mixed once ie with fulanis or shuwa Arabs,n dey stil get worwor girls sef...pure hausa girls are ugly n black like charcoal...every tribe has got its fair share of beautiful n not so beautiful ppl so chill

DeleteNonsense:
Is it not One Nigeria again? Or do One Nigeria have a limit? Please explain!

dat young man did nothing bt sell goods on credit to his yoruba customer who instead of paying his debts,decided to pay som ppl to kill him ...wot has bn law abiding got to do wit dis?

OMAR12:
it sounds fishy, how can u shoot someone on the thigh even from close range and unless due to blood loss am not sure that person will die ( depends on the health capacity of that person, he might be diabetic or hypertensive for him to die that quickly) and when u shoot a car on the move and yo shooting the side of an aluminum plated car, that the only way I feel the bullet could have pierced the car( there are some bullet that do not possess the ability to pierce such cars), asides that the thigh and the moving car that was told to stop story is false, I think the police is hiding the truth.I think he was killed after a money related argument ensued BTw him and the police.

he was owed by a yoruba customer n d man paid d guys to kill him...dis story is a frame up n d culprits hv bn arrested,too sad d young man is dead for nofin

now let me address dis,its high time we stopped dis false allegations against innocent victims.i reside in kano n dis wasnt d issue..he supplied goods worth 6million to his yoruba customer n over a long period of time d man didnt pay his debt...dey had serious arguments n exchange of words over d money few days bk...n dat faithful day he got a call from d debtor to come n collect his money at a designated place around france rd by airport road.on getting there,he parked his car and started calling d man to know whr he was,next tin he was surrounded by hausa "sars" men n accused of a crime n was shot...d same ppl took him to d hosp,however, a man heard d gun shot of our lady of fatima church n on getting there saw blood all over d floor n asking questions,was told by d welder infront of d incident scene dat he'd been taken to city hosp...dis man hu happened to be in d force got to d scene n fortunately d young man was still alive n told him all dat happened despite d insistence of d .so called sars men to stop d questioning..as im writing dis dey are in custody nw wit d debtor hu dey confessed paid dem to kill d young man so he wouldnt hv to pay bk d money he owed...its just as d igbo woman who was killed n accussed of blasphemy whereas d poor woman did nor said nothing...smh...rip to the poor man

now let me address dis,its high time we stopped dis false allegations against innocent victims.i reside in kano n dis wasnt d issue..he supplied goods worth 6million to his yoruba customer n over a long period of time d man didnt pay his debt...dey had serious arguments n exchange of words over d money few days bk...n dat faithful day he got a call from d debtor to come n collect his money at a designated place around france rd by airport road.on getting there,he parked his car and started calling d man to know whr he was,next tin he was surrounded by hausa "sars" men n accused of a crime n was shot...d same ppl took him to d hosp,however, a man heard d gun shot of our lady of fatima church n on getting there saw blood all over d floor n asking questions,was told by d welder infront of d incident scene dat he'd been taken to city hosp...dis man hu happened to be in d force got to d scene n fortunately d young man was still alive n told him all dat happened despite d insistence of d .so called sars men to stop d questioning..as im writing dis dey are in custody nw wit d debtor hu dey confessed paid dem to kill d young man so he wouldnt hv to pay bk d money he owed...its just as d igbo woman who was killed n accussed of blasphemy whereas d poor woman did nor said nothing wrong...smh...rip to the poor man

tunjijones:
But he said the truth. Although if the Igbo's wants a sovereignty I think they shd be allowed to go but it shdnt be in a violent manner. But don't forget that it was azikiwe that contested against the clause of any regions free will to break away when awolowo brought it up in 1958.

how exactly did we go about it in a violent manner that warranted d arrest of this man? u guys need to stop been biased .if u say his talks promoted violence,y didnt jonathan arrest buhari after his violent comments wen he lost d elections?

seunmsg:
Kudos to the authorities of Kuje prison, they are really doing a great job of resetting the brain of the dilector. For once, he seems to be doing something reasonable and commendable in his entire life. He should used his energy more on events like this, instead of promoting hate and bigotry.

ewu zambia wat hav u n ur generation achieved in all ur years of existence?.u say he promotes hate n bigotry,wat abt ur myopic leader hu said d igbos would be drowned in d lagoon,he was promoting love abi?

UndisputedBosom:
To the girls whom may have blocked their future husbands on whatsapp, facebook, bbm, twitter, instagram, snatchat, badoo etc just because he couldn't xplain how he added you or got your number.





May you read and learn

lol...i did dat to my husband,i blocked him on whatsapp cos he wouldnt tell me hw he go my no ,bt he kept calln n begging to meet wit me...finally i saw him 3months later last November...my brideprice was paid in April,n our trad is dis Dec...lol.d tins we do!

SWORD419:
south and insecurity chaii, thatz why i thank GOD for being a northerner (kano) where if i wish i can sleep in the street, coz u feel safe

wat!!! d same kano i live in? ...wit criminals robbing ppl on a daily bases...kip deceiving urslf

smh

dey will never acknowledge d compliments o,na only insults dem dey eva see...anyways i blame d ppl hu kip following n commenting on their posts

Bolustic:
Buhari caused this too abi? This is witch hunting too ba?

Some people are just too lazy to work. If if there are more than enough jobs today. They wouldn't work.

Many may look down on these abokis but one thing I respect about them is they care less about the nature of the work; ranging from nail cutting, polishing, water seller, cobbler, to wood cutters.

See these guys, hail and hearty.

dont evn go there,those ppl re very lazy i tell u,i live amost dem in kano n knw wot am saying,dey wld rather do shoe shiner n mk 100naira to eat for d day, dan work in a factory whr u pay dem 30k at d end of d month .is dat wise? n dey can steal for Africa,only tin is dey sabi steal nonsense somtimes...

bejeiodus:
And how would that have helped their struggle? Violence won't birth Biafra. They could have won him over by being civil to him.

akuko

CACAWA:
you are being mis-informed by the media.

Islam is strongly against all those killings you see...and many a times, they are non-Muslim. And other times, they are traditionalists.

You talk about the Imo woman that was beheaded even though her husband told news reporters that she wasn't be headed and the pic on the news was not hers..he also said the rift wasn't on religious grounds but on trade.

But if you know better than her husband, I apologise.

Now...let us say you are vexing about the mob action meted on her...what have you to say abt the aluu4 killing or the several mob actions happening down south? Are those victims not important to you..or do you just cry out when it helps you whip sentiments?

I'm only trying to appeal to your conscience. Good night

dats all lies,i stay in kano and d faithful muslims kill alot in d name of religion...sometimes sef dey wil go n tear dia quran and put it on a christian dey hv bn having problems wit just to shed blood...dont tell me dey re traditionalists or non muslims cos dat is hot lie n we both knw it

marylandcakes:
And what is that? Is it fruit cake? because that's the only cake I know you can bake ahead of time and preserve with alcohol. Other cakes like sponge cake you can bake ahead and freeze them. You can't pour alcohol in a cake meant for kids.

noted...tanx

Rubyventures:
A lot of Nigerian cakes don't taste fresh because of this method you stated. It will be much better for you to time and plan the baking of your cake as nearer the time it is needed, so that the cake is still very fresh. There are very few cakes you can preserve with alcohol.

kk...tanx