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Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 9:58pm On Oct 22, 2013
ndu_chucks: The outright dismissal of DeLaRue's idea by Mallam Negro and Kats, is enough signal to Ondo people that they must fight very hard or they will be sidelined and marginalized by Ojuyobo and co. If the SW ever becomes a single political and economic entity.

Why does the idea of a Akure capital shake you up so?

His suggestion is acknowledged but it will never ne accepted.

DelaRue is approaching the issue of State Capital from a purely theoretical standpoint. He has sidelined the historical and the customs.

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Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 9:49pm On Oct 22, 2013
DeLaRue: There is a lot of debate going on about restructuring Nigeria with the possibility (though a faint one) that regions or geo - political zones as they call them now, might operate more as administrative units. As part of that debate, there was a thread about the state of Kwara in a potential new region/administrative unit of the SW.

In that thread, a few people were assigning roles to a number of cities, with the clear inference that Ibadan would remain the administrative capital in such new entity/region.

This thread is canvassing the case for Akure as the capital of any new SW entity. I am strongly in favour of a SW that looks outside the traditional commercial/industrial strongholds of Oyo, Lagos, and Ogun to the less developed states of Ondo, Ekiti, and possibly Oshun for the chance to elevate the mass of our peoples from near - permanent economic deprivation.

I think making a place like Akure the capital city in any new SW structure could be a catalyst for such change.

What's your take?





First and foremost, there has been discussions for years on how to transform Yoruba politics in the eventual return to regional power. The concensus in West is to go Parliamentarian. What does this mean?

It means a co-share of decision making between democratically elected politicians who hold a strong worldview and traditional land barons who hold a conservative position on customs and tradition. This will give us a diverse and balanced political stability. This system is consistent with Yoruba historical rulership.

I could be wrong but my suspicion is that under such configuration, we will do away with states and instead have Ijeshaland, Ijebuland, Igbomina, Egbaland, Eko, Ilorin, and so on as the replacement for states. Each of these lands will be sub-composed into constituencies such as Ikeja, Agege, Badagry, Isheri, Ota, Sagamu, Abeokuta, Idanre, Okitipupa, Akure, Owo, Ede, Saki, Offa, and so on....

Each commonwealth land will be a designate for a particular and specific socio-cultural value. This value ought to be assigned on the basis of comparative advantage.

So what comparative advantage does Akure have and is best at than any otjer Yorubaland? Whatever it is, that is what you should be crusading for........not the seat of Yoruba politicalpower. Oyo has the best advantage for Yoruba political power and history and customs supports this. We should be moving forward from our point of detachment from Nigeria, not regressing. Changing seat of political power is a regress, not to say it is impossible and impractical.

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Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 9:22pm On Oct 22, 2013
Katsumoto:

Those are not relevant questions. The capital can be anywhere.

Don't create unnecessary schisms where there are none.

What really is the point of this thread?

Ive been attempting to draw him in but he wont engage me in response.

I want to ask if he has knowledge about Kiriji. Ogedengbe and Ekitiparapo signed a treaty with the rest of the warring members of this commonwealth. Ondo could have gone separate then but it renewed willingly and consentually into the commonwealth.It was a sacred document taken under oath. There are two ways to break the oath and get out of the commonwealth....

1. Through negotiation
2. Through a war.

Akure will never be the political capital of a Yorubaland, no other place beside Oyo have the contract to be.

Delarue need to spell out what he wants Akure to be capital of, beside being the seat of power.

Lagos is commercial
Lagos and Ogun will share industrial
Ilorin and Osun will share agricultural
Osun will be spiritual
Osun and Oyo will share tourism
Oyo will be political
Ilorin and Ekiti will share scholarship
Ekiti will be resort and technology
Ondo and Ekiti will share resort and retreat
Ogun will be diplomatic seat

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Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 9:02pm On Oct 22, 2013
Desola:

Dudu, see your rival o. This guy can construct! Except you increase my chop money, na Ondo I dey go so. grin

Lmao...i better come correct before I loose my Abeni. I go spray you dollars from now until the day DelaRue succeeds in seceding to Delta. Lol
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 8:53pm On Oct 22, 2013
Desola:

See my guy... kiss

Eji wun mi, Abeni...lol.

Oniranu grin
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 8:49pm On Oct 22, 2013
DeLaRue: It's actually good to talk. Sweeping everything under the carpet on the pretest that everything is great is not the right way to go.

Let's talk. May be eventually, you will see some merit in my point, may be I will see in yours too.

Just to confirming again, this is not about dividing anybody. It's about whether Akure can be the capital of a new SW region. Nothing more than that.

Ibadan is a great city, as is Lagos and many SW cities. The issue is is about Akure as a capital city. If you can add to the debate, that's great.


You keep saying Akure as a capital city. As a capital city for what
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 8:40pm On Oct 22, 2013
DeLaRue: The idea that anyone in Ondo or Ekiti is sitting at home feeling cheated decades ago is ludicrous.

Two names are sacrosanct in Ondo state, and I suppose same applies to Ekiti - Awolowo and Adekunle Ajasin. These are demi - gods here. I have never met anybody here who criticise any of these people.

And if you read my write up well, I indicated that I was not pleased that the Labour party were campaigning that Ondo State was cheated in the past. I also went to Ife, and the extraordinary work of Chief Awolowo and his lieutenants remain with me.

So, I was only repeating what the Labour said in their campaign.

My point is and I hope you can tell me your view - Why can't Akure be the administrative Capital of a new SW region particularly as such will hasten development in Ondo and potentially Ekiti State. Why must it be Ibadan?


Its a waste of time feeding your mental and theoretical exercise. Ondo was not the only producer of Cocoa, Palm Oil in Yorubaland. Ondo is not the only Oil and Gas state in Yorubaland.

Ondo cannot and will not be capital of Yorubaland because Yoruba nation is a ruler-state by nature and with a seat of political power and capital. That seat had always been Oyo. In the event of returned power to West Ibadan will once again be our political capital.

If you dont like it actualize your theory and join nation with Delta, .........if you can!

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Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 8:23pm On Oct 22, 2013
OAM4J: While we moderators strive to be fair and transparent it is also necessary that members stay within rules. We would have no need to ban anyone for long or short time if he/she didn't break any rule.

Before now many will claim they dont know why they were banned; now we try to add the offensive post to the ban message most times, except in a case where the offense span many posts.

Am glad no one is claiming he/she doesn't know why he/she was banned or that he/she is not guilty of breaking the rules. The arguments now is that the ban is too long.

While we look into the long ban issue, may I also plead we stop all these personal/tribal/parental insults. We can have hot steamy and passionate robust debate without throwing personal insults. We will always need to disagree to agree, through that we share uncommon information and knowledge, but how to throw insults is not part of what we need to learn and if we are truly matured as we claim then we can do without breaking rules.

Sometimes it can be annoying banning someone for same offense repeatedly.

Cheers!

Chairman,

Can you imagine what society we will have if every law violation is punished and with a long sentence....

Imagine the referee blowing the whistle on every infringement or drawing card on every foul.....how do you then enjoy the game?

Look at how much time forumites are spending here spewing resentment....we have abandoned contributions on threads, we are in here grieving and thats meaningful. In a way this is a feedback, a survey to let you know something is broke and needs to be fixed. Whatever it is your analysts need to get to work and wrap their fingers around it. Do you not agree?

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Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 8:14pm On Oct 22, 2013
ndu_chucks: Nna any moderator who can find any wrongdoing by Isale_gan needs to have his/her head and ego examined. Stop messing with her, she is a saint in NL.

I will torch up this place if they mess with that girl. I dare sexkillz to ban her if he doubts me. angry
Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 8:10pm On Oct 22, 2013
isale_gan2:

Do what you will with all the moderators, especially SexPills. Just don't touch my kid, Odumchi. undecided

Can you create a thread for this so it can be properly discussed? Posts here are being hidden like crazy.

I think sexkillz should be directed to shadow odumchi and learn how to moderate and earn respect from the forumites.

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Politics / Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by DuduNegro: 1:14pm On Oct 22, 2013
Desola: Why is this man not my husband, ehn?

He always knows how to mu mi wale. grin

But this time, I have to lovingly disagree with you, otunba.


.....even if we bring Alfa Jarus to dobale and pledge allegiance to Alaafin? grin
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 1:08pm On Oct 22, 2013
DelaRue,

You better be thinking of a new strategy to work around Agbekoya and Afenifere in your quest to snatch Ondo from their political grips.

Waiting on you dear Ibo citizen of Ondo state.
grin grin grin
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 12:59pm On Oct 22, 2013
DeLaRue: It is interesting to see some folks, already sharing imaginary spoils in the event of a strengthened Federal structure. Hmm...I laugh. I laugh because these people who I guess are probably from Oyo, Ogun, and Lagos State think we are back in the 60's when Ondo (including Ekiti then) got a raw deal.

Katsumoto or some other person in another thread about the status of Kwara in a new federating structure had it nicely laid out in their heads how Akure will be the 'educational capital' of a new SW, with Lagos, Ibadan, Abeokuta being the commercial, administrative, and industrial capital. Someone else rubbished the idea of Akure as a potential new capital of the new structure, saying' for where?' I laugh again.

These self -centred and myopic comments typify why many in Ondo State decided during the last guber election to stick with Mimiko against the ACN candidate. One of the campaign strategies of the Labour party was to cast the ACN as a party of people who would come to Ondo State to take their resources in order to develop Lagos, Ogun etc. And Labour plastered the airwaves (radio in particular) with jingles reminding the people how Ondo state produced the Cocoa but 'these people' built Cocoa House in Ibadan. Uni of Ife was located in you know where, and Ikeja, among other places were developed with 'their' cocoa money.

At the time I thought this was just silly, ridiculous, and underhand. But guess what, when you see how some folks are already dismissing the goose that will lay the golden egg in any new SW states, you begin to wonder.

And I say this as someone who while not particularly interested in Nigerian politics has some sympathy for the ACN/APC, and respect immensely the astounding accomplishment of Mr Tinubu in rescuing the SW from the 'other' party.
I am also someone who can't understand why Mimiko continues to show little interest in SW integration agenda, and can't wait for his term to run out.

That said, I will say this, Akure will have to be the SW capital in every sense of that word or nothing else. All this nonsense about it being the 'education capital' - what does that mean? The argument in support of Akure is solid:

In any SW region/federating structure Ondo State will bring the following to the table:

- The region's only proven and producing oil reserves providing immediate access to oil and even potential foreign echange income

- The region's only and proven gas reserves providing a basis for powering the new region's economy to new industrial height

- The region's only immediate (from day 1) source of external revenue - Cocoa, Nigeria's current 2nd or 3rd largest foreign exchange earner

- One of the largest and soon to be one of the most successful single industrial parks in West Africa - OLOKOLA - with Dangote's refinery and associated cluster industries - another potential big foreign exchange earner for the new region

- One of the most naturally conducive water fronts in the region

-We also offer the first line of defence to your great Lagos, Ogun and Oyo. Is it not Ondo state people that will first defend you against any invading army from your perceived enemies in the East?. You want to be enjoying yourselves in Eko Atlantic, while our people are paying with their lives repelling your enemies

- I am not even going to talk about the 2nd largest deposit of heavy crude oil in the world. I'm not talking about it as I believe it may never be commercially possible to exploit it. So, it's probably not worth much at this point

- Compared to Ibadan, Lagos, and Abeokuta, Akure is compact enough to be developed into a befitting capital without the geographic and human complications of Lagos and Ibadan. Also, I suspect (I could be wrong) Akure is not as old as the other 3 places. One gets the impression that provided you have the compensation to pay, you can flatten half of Akure without much difficulty ( no insult meant to the indigenes of Akure). Also there is so much virgin land around. All of this will cost less than half what a similar exercise will cost in even Ibadan.

The above is what Ondo state brings to the table. When the time comes and we are all sitting at that negotiation table, you will have to tell us what your state brings to the table, and then we discuss.

You can't ask us to put all these on the table and and share with the rest of our people then turn round to say you want the capital in Ibadan. I[b]t won't happen[/b]. Ondo State will be better off forming a region with Edo, if they are interested. Ah, but then kidnapping,,,crime! We can remain with Ekiti! We do not all have to be in the same region to prove our Yorubaness.

History and location is not an excuse. London is to the far south within the United Kingdom, yet it is the capital. The fact Ibadan is central adds nothing to the debate.


We love you! Honest. But we know what we are entitled to. And in the Omoluwabi spirit, we are ready to share our resources with you without asking for special derivation. But you must make serious concessions to ensure that Ondo, Osun, and Ekiti all develop and are not laggers to Oyo, Lagos, and Ogun. Otherwise, Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun, should form their own region. Ondo and Ekiti (but Ekiti people and their petitions and political thuggery!) can form theirs. Maybe a West West region made up of Ondo and Edo states. Benin and Owo are ancient kingdoms who used to fight a lot in ancient times, but we have no problems with our Edo brothers.

Anything other than domination and manipulation by Lagos, Oyo, and Ogun citizens will be better. They either come to the table with fairness or they can bugger off with their Yoruba region. We will form our own Yoruba region too.


DelaRue,

Nice try!!

My response to you is simple.......Agbekoya and Afenifere!!

If you are true Ondo indigene as you inferred, you ought to know what those cultural standards mean in the politics of Western Nigeria.

He who laughs last laughs best.... grin grin

Mimiko is serving on the endorsement and honor of Afenifere. Thats code for Oyo political barons.
Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 12:42pm On Oct 22, 2013
jking001:

I was watching ibero american summit conferences and discovered the former spanish colony were giving spain condition to work with spain,now that's what i call civilized mutual respect,same goes for china and asean countries we can work together on mutual respect,that's why i like the americans they help you gain independence and thereby gain your trust that's what the yorubas should do for any tribe they claim to have links with in nigeria,wen ijaw and itsekiri dey fight we no hear all this kind talk ooo why now ?

Yoruba is not even claiming anyone.

There is a commonwealth......all who want are welcome to join it.

Ibos are stressed because the sections they claim as Ibolands and their people have refused to be labeled Ibo.

Yoruba does not have that problem, although Ibo wish we did. Itsekiri has been part of MidWest, then SS, yet they identify as a Yoruba group on their cultural websites, in wiki, on fb....they can stand on their own and still be respected but they have expressed interest in the commonwealth and in fact are expecting to join the DAWN initiative.

There is no hope in the Eastern corridor. No market diversity - everything in that direction is locked down under Ibo monopoly. The market is terminal.

The Western market on the other hand is an endless penetration of multi culturalism and open entry.....from Yorubaland all along the coast to Bambaraland

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Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 12:02pm On Oct 22, 2013
jking001: The itsekiri population is enough to form a small country no one is annexing us we should remain in the south south have friends and forge our own destiny and stop whinning like a baby that needs to be pampered life is not a bed of roses.

Vatican City - 0.2 square miles - The world's smallest state, the Vatican has a population of 770, none of whom are permanent residents. The tiny country which surrounds St. Peter's Basilica is the spiritual center for the world's Roman Catholics (over 1 billion strong). Also known as the Holy See, Vatican City is surrounded by Rome, Italy.
MONACO- 0.7 square miles - The tiny state of Monaco lies along the French Riviera on the French Mediterranean coast near Nice. An impressive 32,000 people live in this state known for its Monte Carlo casinos and Princess Grace. It has been independent off-and-on since the 13th century.

NAURU - 8.5 square miles - The 13,000 residents of the Pacific island Nauru rely on diminishing phosphate deposits. The state became independent in 1968 and was formerly known as Pleasant Island.
TUVALU- 9 square miles - Tuvalu is composed of 9 coral

San Marino - 24 square miles - Located on Mt. Titano in north central Italy, San Marino has 29,000 residents. The country claims to be the oldest state in Europe, having been founded in the fourth century.
Liechtenstein - 62 square miles - This microstate of 34,000 is located on the Rhine River between Switzerland and Austria in the Alps.
Marshall Islands - 70 square miles - The atolls (including the world's largest, Kwajalein), reefs, and 34 islands (population 58,000) gained independence in 1986; they were formerly part of the Trust Territory of Pacific Islands (and administered by the United States).

Saint Kitts and Nevis - 104 square miles - This Caribbean country of 39,000 gained independence in 1983. Nevis is the smaller island of the two and is guaranteed the right to secede.
Seychelles - 107 square miles - The 81,000 residents of this Indian Ocean island group have been independent of the United Kingdom since 1976.
Maldives - 115 square miles - Only 200 of the 2000 Indian Ocean islands which make up this country are occupied by 340,000 residents. The islands gained independence from the U.K. in 1965.
Malta - 122 square miles - This island is just south of the Italian island of Sicily. It became independent from the United Kingdom in 1964 and the British military were completely gone by 1979. The population is 400,000.
Grenada - 133 square miles - This Caribbean country (population 90,000) became independent of the U.K. in 1974. It's located quite close to Venezuela.
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines - 150 square miles - 117,000 people live on these Windward Caribbean islands which gained independence from Britain in 1979.
Barbados - 166 square miles - About 280,000 people live on this Caribbean island, the farthest east of the Lesser Antilles. Barbados obtained independence from the U.K. in 1966.
Antigua and Barbuda - 171 square miles - This Caribbean nation of 69,000 has been independent from the United Kingdom since 1981. The three islands which compose this country rely on tourism (as do many of the Caribbean countries and territories).
Andorra - 180 square miles - The independent Principality of Andorra is co-governed by the President of France and the Spain's Bishop of Urgel. With just over 70,000 people, this mountainous tourist destination tucked in the Pyrenees between France and Spain has been independent since 1278.
Palau - 191 square miles - Palau (also known as Belau) was a Trust Territory of Pacific Islands. It was formerly known as the Carolines and is composed of more than 200 islands in the Pacific; the population is about 20,000. It became independent in 1994.

People are making history and getting better lifes for themselves we are thinking of going woth the nigerian people why have half when you can have everything ''FEAR ''.

http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/smallcountries.htm

This is exactly what each ethnic should be saying. Taking the bull by the horns and charting its own destiny.
Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 11:58am On Oct 22, 2013
chima12: If you think the edos are not happy to have left southwest and presently be in southsouth,then you should go and campaign for edos to rejoin southwest,but this time you should do it on ground,physically;not online.take your campaigns to the nooks and cranies of benin city and other towns and villages in edo state.when you are at it,let us know the outcome.
The edos are not subsumed by any tribe in southsouth,they are equal partners with their fellow southsouth tribes.

Campaign for Edo ke, have you lost your mind? angry

We are talking about each people establishing where they want their destinies to take them and you are preaching about a campaign to compound the problems we already have.

Do you know how long Edo history and antiquity is? We in the West have no doubt about their syrength and ability to exist, like they have always done, as an independent people.

Unlike uncultured Ibo thats always ambitious to run over people, we in the West respect cultures and their histories and believe in the philosophy of "live and let live". Edo is one of the oldest cultures in Nigeria, they should be the power house and cultural base for a SS.......they will get back their pride and glory, they dont need Yoruba to achieve that.

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Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 11:34am On Oct 22, 2013
sexkillz: In the same vein, you do not know me at all. What you think about me or how I moderate or not, is your business. Whether or not you think I'm fit to moderate is purely your business as you chose to dwell on it. I'm not fazed by it and would not be bothered about it. I'm also not here to ask or earn respect from people I do not know off here or care to know about.

Pls pls shove your respect as I do not need it. This is not a "respect" contest. Abide by the rules, and I won't even give a hoot about your existence.

Shut your trap!!!

You are so easily vulnerable and available to step below the pedestal of honor expected of you......it doesnt take much to push your button and eke a stewpid response out of your soft and thin shell.

Anyway, its not you.....Seun has demoted the status here by giving an unskilled and untested se.xpusher to moderate the most emotionally volatile and sophisticated channel in Nairaland.

Like i told Afam some days back when I begged him to take you under his wings, we dont kiss and hug here.....we compete and learn. Through the intricacies of political sparring we appreciate the strengths and vulnerabilities of political rivals. You have killed that spirit, shame on you!

In trying to combat tribalism you ended becoming the despised tribalist.

Let me hear you say one more thing in response.....yeye angry

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Politics / Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by DuduNegro: 11:15am On Oct 22, 2013
Desola:

If they are so strong numerically, what were they doing when the oligarchs imposed the arewa coat of arms on them?

We need to stop being so sentimental about a group that pay us lip service but act the other way.

Desola,

The political stalwarts in Ilorin, under military regimes, enjoyed enormous patronization from up North. The privilege of aristocratic power got them intoxicated into thinking they were Fulani more than they were Yoruba.

In Nigeria, the seat of democratic power has always been West and will always be. We should not crucify our brothers in Kwara, in fact......this is one of our footprints in the Sudan belt. Politically in the culture and history of West Africa this is an important element to cherish and conserve. We must not loose it.

The bad elements of Kwara are few....the citizens themselves never forgot where home was or who their progenitor was. If it wasnt for Afonja, Fulani is below the standards of Ilorin, politically, culturally and economically.

Quorra, as it was known and called in the Sudan belt was a seat of scholarship and fame on same standard with Timbuktu. The dynstic rulers of Mali were reported to have likely been extracts from the Quorra region and of both Yoruba and Bariba origins.

We must bring our Quorra back to the political prominence in West African politics.

We can do it.

Ibadi aran, s'ogbo? grin

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Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 10:51am On Oct 22, 2013
sexkillz: Well, for starters, I noticed that you have been quite calm/level-headed after your ban and disabling of your other known alternate handles.

You didnt know me before you got here, and you still dont know me months after you been here.

Im always calm and cool, unless Yoruba is attacked and I have to exhibit my love and passion for the Land of Milk & Honey.

May Edumare Bless Yorubaland for me!

Im also cool and collected and respectful of moderators until a moderator steps out of line like you just did......."provoking my emotions with your confrontational and irresponsible comments about cool headedness".

You are not fit to mpderate in here....you have no class and cannot earn respect no matter how much I try to train you or beg others to take you under their wings for mentoring.

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Politics / Re: Are You Interested In Moderating This Section? by DuduNegro: 10:43am On Oct 22, 2013
This is ridiculous! This is absolute nonsense!! This is nothing but an insult and utter and sheer foolishness!!!

How long does it take to select or nominate a moderator? This process of nomination is ineffective, it is broken and has lost credibility.

The sponsors of this offer have 5days to wrap this exercise up or I will erect a parallel process for attending to issues here in politics section.

SEEEUUUNNNN....where you dey abeg?
Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 10:31am On Oct 22, 2013
sexkillz: When under ban on their main monikers, they whip out their alternate monikers and maintain a degree of level-headedness. When the ban on the main moniker expeires, they go back to their old selves. You can't blame me if I keep increasing the ban when they repeat the offence or can you? Why can't they maintain that level-headedness on their main accounts?

What do you call level headedness, what exactly is that? angry

I see you havent found Jesus yet!

MUUKINATTOOOUU....

MUUKINAA...Ineed your help here darling.
Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 9:36am On Oct 22, 2013
warlei:
Hw has oyel money improved the lot of the pple...
For ur info we hav our own oil from lag-ogun-ondo..
(Oyo osun)...gold so what u tailking bout....

Under Yoruba, Ibo does not have the ball and courage to invade and occupy Itsekiriland. They want them to separate so once removed from under the Oodua cover they can sneak in and plant Biafran flag in Warri.

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Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 9:28am On Oct 22, 2013
chima12: One thing about the southsouth is that there is no clear majority there.the yorubas are only interested in annexing itsekiri because of oil.itsekiris will only become servants if they join yoruba southwest.the ilorin yorubas know what awaits them if they join southwest which is the reason they prefer to remain in the north.meanwhile the southwest yoruba are not too eager about annexing ilorin because ilorin/kwara has no oil and they do not want to have conflict with the fulanis.

The Edos separated themselves from Yorubas in 63 under that same sentiment fed by Ibos that Yoruba want their rubber.

They lost their independence and MidWest to Ibo Biafra who invaded and annexed their land as Biafran soil. Today in 2013, rubber is dead; they are now subsumed into a SS zone from where their destiny is manipulated by non entities in the creek waters of Ijawland.

Ibos are wishing on Itsekiri to go the same dead-end road they persuaded Edos and Urhobos to go in 63 - separate from Yoruba!

We shall see.......

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Politics / Re: Anambra People Own 40% Prime Properties In Lagos, Abuja - Joe Igbokwe by DuduNegro: 9:16am On Oct 22, 2013
SmartTalk:

Naturalising? No thank you. Noone naturalises under duress. And why would you want Igbo people naturalising? I see too many complaint that the Igbo are 'giving Nigeria a bad image'. So this is a contradiction. Please clarify.

We need diversity on our land so Oodua can continue to progress and remain in cultural exclusiveness.
Politics / Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by DuduNegro: 6:51am On Oct 22, 2013
birdman:

of course I'm enjoying the knowledge being dropped on this thread by omonnakoda, kats and a few others. Lets not forget what this thread started out as though - a discussion about Kwara, and how the SNC can help resolve ethnic issues in the state. But lets face it, a good majority of the guys talking on this thread obviously have no idea of the Yoruba they talk about. Its as if they think reading online papers and googling is a substitute for understanding the spirit of the Yoruba. Some are already even counting their chickens before it has hatched, delineating who is main Yoruba, what city gets to do what etc. Others have have already ceded Ilorin, a border post of sorts without a fight - I wonder what or who they will be compromising on next. Someone misinformed this people about their heritage otherwise they would never talk like this - even on an online forum.

My 2 cents as a non Ilorin man who spent a good deal of time there, a decade plus. There are parts of kwara that definitely would never identify themselves as Yoruba. But Ilorin is not one of them. If anything, the subversive nature of the Yoruba in Ilorin, and how they have managed to hold on to political power and resources evn with successive military dictators (IBB, Abacha) tipping the scale in favor of the Hausa is a source of fear for the hausa oligarchs. Even Saraki turned out to be a yoruba embed, and came close to getting the nod for northern candidate for president. I remember one prominent northern elder cussing Saraki generously. The fact that they had been played for so long struck a deep nerve.

Back to lurks mode...

Kwara is over 80% Yoruba. The rest is shared between Borgus in Bussa, Kiawah and then Nupes.
Politics / Re: Anambra People Own 40% Prime Properties In Lagos, Abuja - Joe Igbokwe by DuduNegro: 6:22am On Oct 22, 2013
madam_oringo:

LMAO...in a foreign land / region where you have no legal rights? I think I saw a thread yesterday on a moving business idea, I think this is the best you will get.



Tell them we will have three toll gates between Lagos amd Ore. Then there will be a customs post also.

The toll fee will be assessed based on payload tonnage + this is considered an exportation and will therefore incurr tarriffs at the border post.

Ibos with mansions in Lagos be warned. You are better off naturalizing and forget about Biafra than paying through your nose to export your mansion.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: 805 Pilgrims Arrive From Saudi Arabia by DuduNegro: 10:13pm On Oct 21, 2013
I greet you all, Welcome Home! wink
May God reward and keep you in Blessings.

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Politics / Re: Geographical Wayo In Nigeria And The Reality We Must All Accept. by DuduNegro: 10:09pm On Oct 21, 2013
On the division of land and its political impact.

There are two regions that is least impacted, regardless their assigned designation and this is up North and West. They suffer certain political shifts but at a minimal.

The other regions - middle Belt, East and South suffer a much adverse shift, politically and culturally.

I agree with OP that it is wayo strategy to go from the simple West, North, East that existed in 1960 and incrementally disposess and dismantle power from their cultural base for a newly emerged artificial seats of power called zones.

Where is the cultural base or political base of the North Central zone and where is that for the South South zone?
Politics / Re: Peter Obi( APGA) Ordered The Killing Of Over 2000 Igbos(pics) by DuduNegro: 9:41pm On Oct 21, 2013
berem: Shoot at sight of course! There's nothing as serious as killing innocent and harmless souls. Ka Chukwu gbahara Peter Obi na ndi APGA! cry

We see how people ended up mysteriously lifeless and face down in a river !
Politics / Re: Peter Obi( APGA) Ordered The Killing Of Over 2000 Igbos(pics) by DuduNegro: 9:39pm On Oct 21, 2013
luvinhubby:
Excuse me sir,...... who are your people? That your mother is Igbo and your father Yoruba does not make you nwa-afor tongue
Imalu ebe iwuru aru, go there and fetch your clothes.

What else is new? Igbo is a discriminative society, you rob your people of their igbo citizenship rights. You create a diobu class, an osu caste and now you come with a sub-perior non nwa-afor class.

Is that a breaking news?

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