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Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 9:58pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
ndu_chucks: The outright dismissal of DeLaRue's idea by Mallam Negro and Kats, is enough signal to Ondo people that they must fight very hard or they will be sidelined and marginalized by Ojuyobo and co. If the SW ever becomes a single political and economic entity. His suggestion is acknowledged but it will never ne accepted. DelaRue is approaching the issue of State Capital from a purely theoretical standpoint. He has sidelined the historical and the customs. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 9:49pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
DeLaRue: There is a lot of debate going on about restructuring Nigeria with the possibility (though a faint one) that regions or geo - political zones as they call them now, might operate more as administrative units. As part of that debate, there was a thread about the state of Kwara in a potential new region/administrative unit of the SW. First and foremost, there has been discussions for years on how to transform Yoruba politics in the eventual return to regional power. The concensus in West is to go Parliamentarian. What does this mean? It means a co-share of decision making between democratically elected politicians who hold a strong worldview and traditional land barons who hold a conservative position on customs and tradition. This will give us a diverse and balanced political stability. This system is consistent with Yoruba historical rulership. I could be wrong but my suspicion is that under such configuration, we will do away with states and instead have Ijeshaland, Ijebuland, Igbomina, Egbaland, Eko, Ilorin, and so on as the replacement for states. Each of these lands will be sub-composed into constituencies such as Ikeja, Agege, Badagry, Isheri, Ota, Sagamu, Abeokuta, Idanre, Okitipupa, Akure, Owo, Ede, Saki, Offa, and so on.... Each commonwealth land will be a designate for a particular and specific socio-cultural value. This value ought to be assigned on the basis of comparative advantage. So what comparative advantage does Akure have and is best at than any otjer Yorubaland? Whatever it is, that is what you should be crusading for........not the seat of Yoruba politicalpower. Oyo has the best advantage for Yoruba political power and history and customs supports this. We should be moving forward from our point of detachment from Nigeria, not regressing. Changing seat of political power is a regress, not to say it is impossible and impractical. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 9:22pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
Katsumoto: Ive been attempting to draw him in but he wont engage me in response. I want to ask if he has knowledge about Kiriji. Ogedengbe and Ekitiparapo signed a treaty with the rest of the warring members of this commonwealth. Ondo could have gone separate then but it renewed willingly and consentually into the commonwealth.It was a sacred document taken under oath. There are two ways to break the oath and get out of the commonwealth.... 1. Through negotiation 2. Through a war. Akure will never be the political capital of a Yorubaland, no other place beside Oyo have the contract to be. Delarue need to spell out what he wants Akure to be capital of, beside being the seat of power. Lagos is commercial Lagos and Ogun will share industrial Ilorin and Osun will share agricultural Osun will be spiritual Osun and Oyo will share tourism Oyo will be political Ilorin and Ekiti will share scholarship Ekiti will be resort and technology Ondo and Ekiti will share resort and retreat Ogun will be diplomatic seat 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 9:02pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
Desola: Lmao...i better come correct before I loose my Abeni. I go spray you dollars from now until the day DelaRue succeeds in seceding to Delta. Lol |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 8:53pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
Desola: Eji wun mi, Abeni...lol. Oniranu |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 8:49pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
DeLaRue: It's actually good to talk. Sweeping everything under the carpet on the pretest that everything is great is not the right way to go. You keep saying Akure as a capital city. As a capital city for what |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 8:40pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
DeLaRue: The idea that anyone in Ondo or Ekiti is sitting at home feeling cheated decades ago is ludicrous. Its a waste of time feeding your mental and theoretical exercise. Ondo was not the only producer of Cocoa, Palm Oil in Yorubaland. Ondo is not the only Oil and Gas state in Yorubaland. Ondo cannot and will not be capital of Yorubaland because Yoruba nation is a ruler-state by nature and with a seat of political power and capital. That seat had always been Oyo. In the event of returned power to West Ibadan will once again be our political capital. If you dont like it actualize your theory and join nation with Delta, .........if you can! 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 8:23pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
OAM4J: While we moderators strive to be fair and transparent it is also necessary that members stay within rules. We would have no need to ban anyone for long or short time if he/she didn't break any rule. Chairman, Can you imagine what society we will have if every law violation is punished and with a long sentence.... Imagine the referee blowing the whistle on every infringement or drawing card on every foul.....how do you then enjoy the game? Look at how much time forumites are spending here spewing resentment....we have abandoned contributions on threads, we are in here grieving and thats meaningful. In a way this is a feedback, a survey to let you know something is broke and needs to be fixed. Whatever it is your analysts need to get to work and wrap their fingers around it. Do you not agree? 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 8:14pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
ndu_chucks: Nna any moderator who can find any wrongdoing by Isale_gan needs to have his/her head and ego examined. Stop messing with her, she is a saint in NL. I will torch up this place if they mess with that girl. I dare sexkillz to ban her if he doubts me. |
Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 8:10pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
isale_gan2: I think sexkillz should be directed to shadow odumchi and learn how to moderate and earn respect from the forumites. 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by DuduNegro: 1:14pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
Desola: Why is this man not my husband, ehn? .....even if we bring Alfa Jarus to dobale and pledge allegiance to Alaafin? |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 1:08pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
DelaRue, You better be thinking of a new strategy to work around Agbekoya and Afenifere in your quest to snatch Ondo from their political grips. Waiting on you dear Ibo citizen of Ondo state. |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by DuduNegro: 12:59pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
DeLaRue: It is interesting to see some folks, already sharing imaginary spoils in the event of a strengthened Federal structure. Hmm...I laugh. I laugh because these people who I guess are probably from Oyo, Ogun, and Lagos State think we are back in the 60's when Ondo (including Ekiti then) got a raw deal. DelaRue, Nice try!! My response to you is simple.......Agbekoya and Afenifere!! If you are true Ondo indigene as you inferred, you ought to know what those cultural standards mean in the politics of Western Nigeria. He who laughs last laughs best.... Mimiko is serving on the endorsement and honor of Afenifere. Thats code for Oyo political barons. |
Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 12:42pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
jking001: Yoruba is not even claiming anyone. There is a commonwealth......all who want are welcome to join it. Ibos are stressed because the sections they claim as Ibolands and their people have refused to be labeled Ibo. Yoruba does not have that problem, although Ibo wish we did. Itsekiri has been part of MidWest, then SS, yet they identify as a Yoruba group on their cultural websites, in wiki, on fb....they can stand on their own and still be respected but they have expressed interest in the commonwealth and in fact are expecting to join the DAWN initiative. There is no hope in the Eastern corridor. No market diversity - everything in that direction is locked down under Ibo monopoly. The market is terminal. The Western market on the other hand is an endless penetration of multi culturalism and open entry.....from Yorubaland all along the coast to Bambaraland 5 Likes |
Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 12:02pm On Oct 22, 2013 |
jking001: The itsekiri population is enough to form a small country no one is annexing us we should remain in the south south have friends and forge our own destiny and stop whinning like a baby that needs to be pampered life is not a bed of roses. This is exactly what each ethnic should be saying. Taking the bull by the horns and charting its own destiny. |
Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 11:58am On Oct 22, 2013 |
chima12: If you think the edos are not happy to have left southwest and presently be in southsouth,then you should go and campaign for edos to rejoin southwest,but this time you should do it on ground,physically;not online.take your campaigns to the nooks and cranies of benin city and other towns and villages in edo state.when you are at it,let us know the outcome. Campaign for Edo ke, have you lost your mind? We are talking about each people establishing where they want their destinies to take them and you are preaching about a campaign to compound the problems we already have. Do you know how long Edo history and antiquity is? We in the West have no doubt about their syrength and ability to exist, like they have always done, as an independent people. Unlike uncultured Ibo thats always ambitious to run over people, we in the West respect cultures and their histories and believe in the philosophy of "live and let live". Edo is one of the oldest cultures in Nigeria, they should be the power house and cultural base for a SS.......they will get back their pride and glory, they dont need Yoruba to achieve that. 4 Likes |
Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 11:34am On Oct 22, 2013 |
sexkillz: In the same vein, you do not know me at all. What you think about me or how I moderate or not, is your business. Whether or not you think I'm fit to moderate is purely your business as you chose to dwell on it. I'm not fazed by it and would not be bothered about it. I'm also not here to ask or earn respect from people I do not know off here or care to know about. Shut your trap!!! You are so easily vulnerable and available to step below the pedestal of honor expected of you......it doesnt take much to push your button and eke a stewpid response out of your soft and thin shell. Anyway, its not you.....Seun has demoted the status here by giving an unskilled and untested se.xpusher to moderate the most emotionally volatile and sophisticated channel in Nairaland. Like i told Afam some days back when I begged him to take you under his wings, we dont kiss and hug here.....we compete and learn. Through the intricacies of political sparring we appreciate the strengths and vulnerabilities of political rivals. You have killed that spirit, shame on you! In trying to combat tribalism you ended becoming the despised tribalist. Let me hear you say one more thing in response.....yeye 5 Likes |
Politics / Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by DuduNegro: 11:15am On Oct 22, 2013 |
Desola: Desola, The political stalwarts in Ilorin, under military regimes, enjoyed enormous patronization from up North. The privilege of aristocratic power got them intoxicated into thinking they were Fulani more than they were Yoruba. In Nigeria, the seat of democratic power has always been West and will always be. We should not crucify our brothers in Kwara, in fact......this is one of our footprints in the Sudan belt. Politically in the culture and history of West Africa this is an important element to cherish and conserve. We must not loose it. The bad elements of Kwara are few....the citizens themselves never forgot where home was or who their progenitor was. If it wasnt for Afonja, Fulani is below the standards of Ilorin, politically, culturally and economically. Quorra, as it was known and called in the Sudan belt was a seat of scholarship and fame on same standard with Timbuktu. The dynstic rulers of Mali were reported to have likely been extracts from the Quorra region and of both Yoruba and Bariba origins. We must bring our Quorra back to the political prominence in West African politics. We can do it. Ibadi aran, s'ogbo? 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 10:51am On Oct 22, 2013 |
sexkillz: Well, for starters, I noticed that you have been quite calm/level-headed after your ban and disabling of your other known alternate handles. You didnt know me before you got here, and you still dont know me months after you been here. Im always calm and cool, unless Yoruba is attacked and I have to exhibit my love and passion for the Land of Milk & Honey. May Edumare Bless Yorubaland for me! Im also cool and collected and respectful of moderators until a moderator steps out of line like you just did......."provoking my emotions with your confrontational and irresponsible comments about cool headedness". You are not fit to mpderate in here....you have no class and cannot earn respect no matter how much I try to train you or beg others to take you under their wings for mentoring. 4 Likes |
Politics / Re: Are You Interested In Moderating This Section? by DuduNegro: 10:43am On Oct 22, 2013 |
This is ridiculous! This is absolute nonsense!! This is nothing but an insult and utter and sheer foolishness!!! How long does it take to select or nominate a moderator? This process of nomination is ineffective, it is broken and has lost credibility. The sponsors of this offer have 5days to wrap this exercise up or I will erect a parallel process for attending to issues here in politics section. SEEEUUUNNNN....where you dey abeg? |
Politics / Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by DuduNegro: 10:31am On Oct 22, 2013 |
sexkillz: When under ban on their main monikers, they whip out their alternate monikers and maintain a degree of level-headedness. When the ban on the main moniker expeires, they go back to their old selves. You can't blame me if I keep increasing the ban when they repeat the offence or can you? Why can't they maintain that level-headedness on their main accounts? What do you call level headedness, what exactly is that? I see you havent found Jesus yet! MUUKINATTOOOUU.... MUUKINAA...Ineed your help here darling. |
Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 9:36am On Oct 22, 2013 |
warlei: Under Yoruba, Ibo does not have the ball and courage to invade and occupy Itsekiriland. They want them to separate so once removed from under the Oodua cover they can sneak in and plant Biafran flag in Warri. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Submission Of Yoruba/itsekiri Groups To The Committee On National Conference by DuduNegro: 9:28am On Oct 22, 2013 |
chima12: One thing about the southsouth is that there is no clear majority there.the yorubas are only interested in annexing itsekiri because of oil.itsekiris will only become servants if they join yoruba southwest.the ilorin yorubas know what awaits them if they join southwest which is the reason they prefer to remain in the north.meanwhile the southwest yoruba are not too eager about annexing ilorin because ilorin/kwara has no oil and they do not want to have conflict with the fulanis. The Edos separated themselves from Yorubas in 63 under that same sentiment fed by Ibos that Yoruba want their rubber. They lost their independence and MidWest to Ibo Biafra who invaded and annexed their land as Biafran soil. Today in 2013, rubber is dead; they are now subsumed into a SS zone from where their destiny is manipulated by non entities in the creek waters of Ijawland. Ibos are wishing on Itsekiri to go the same dead-end road they persuaded Edos and Urhobos to go in 63 - separate from Yoruba! We shall see....... 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Anambra People Own 40% Prime Properties In Lagos, Abuja - Joe Igbokwe by DuduNegro: 9:16am On Oct 22, 2013 |
SmartTalk: We need diversity on our land so Oodua can continue to progress and remain in cultural exclusiveness. |
Politics / Re: Proposed National Conference: A Case For Kwara State by DuduNegro: 6:51am On Oct 22, 2013 |
birdman: Kwara is over 80% Yoruba. The rest is shared between Borgus in Bussa, Kiawah and then Nupes. |
Politics / Re: Anambra People Own 40% Prime Properties In Lagos, Abuja - Joe Igbokwe by DuduNegro: 6:22am On Oct 22, 2013 |
madam_oringo: Tell them we will have three toll gates between Lagos amd Ore. Then there will be a customs post also. The toll fee will be assessed based on payload tonnage + this is considered an exportation and will therefore incurr tarriffs at the border post. Ibos with mansions in Lagos be warned. You are better off naturalizing and forget about Biafra than paying through your nose to export your mansion. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: 805 Pilgrims Arrive From Saudi Arabia by DuduNegro: 10:13pm On Oct 21, 2013 |
I greet you all, Welcome Home! May God reward and keep you in Blessings. 4 Likes |
Politics / Re: Geographical Wayo In Nigeria And The Reality We Must All Accept. by DuduNegro: 10:09pm On Oct 21, 2013 |
On the division of land and its political impact. There are two regions that is least impacted, regardless their assigned designation and this is up North and West. They suffer certain political shifts but at a minimal. The other regions - middle Belt, East and South suffer a much adverse shift, politically and culturally. I agree with OP that it is wayo strategy to go from the simple West, North, East that existed in 1960 and incrementally disposess and dismantle power from their cultural base for a newly emerged artificial seats of power called zones. Where is the cultural base or political base of the North Central zone and where is that for the South South zone? |
Politics / Re: Peter Obi( APGA) Ordered The Killing Of Over 2000 Igbos(pics) by DuduNegro: 9:41pm On Oct 21, 2013 |
berem: Shoot at sight of course! There's nothing as serious as killing innocent and harmless souls. Ka Chukwu gbahara Peter Obi na ndi APGA! We see how people ended up mysteriously lifeless and face down in a river ! |
Politics / Re: Peter Obi( APGA) Ordered The Killing Of Over 2000 Igbos(pics) by DuduNegro: 9:39pm On Oct 21, 2013 |
luvinhubby: What else is new? Igbo is a discriminative society, you rob your people of their igbo citizenship rights. You create a diobu class, an osu caste and now you come with a sub-perior non nwa-afor class. Is that a breaking news? 2 Likes |
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