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Mpeace:The guy makes more money from his books and seminars than following the strategies he recommends. |
Sorry, where did you get your information from? I live in the US and I filled a car thank I used to fill for about $65 at close to $100. It's premium gas though. The point is the unnecessary subsidy of a product largely consumed by the rich in Nigeria rather than taxing it. |
emmanuelewumi:Quote Does that means Nigerians don't have an eye to see opportunities in this sector? Unquote That question illustrates the devastating effect of corruption in it's various manifestation on the Nigerian economy. Ordinarily, going by human nature, any business that shows super profit as PRESCO and OKOMU has demonstrated in the oil palm sector should attract more investments from competitors and the super profit should last for a short while. However, if you have other competing 'opportunities' either through extremely lucrative government contracts or a monopoly business protected from competition by government's laws or actions, why would you risk your capital on something else that gives lower, though juicy returns and demands more work? |
Lion123:Capital Gains Tax is in the Nigerian Tax Laws. Every nation in the world taxes capital gains. Nigeria has the lowest tax receipts as a percentage of gdp even among West African countries by a very wide margin. We want government services but do not want to pay taxes. Would the money come from the air? We cannot continue to use the excuse of corruption to resist taxes. |
[quote author=Lion123 post=97116666]It's amusing. Banks in SA are trading at a PE of 30+. Kenyan banks are trading at an average PE of 12. My beautiful, sexy Zenith which has CONSISTENTLY made 9-figures in USD (net profit) in the last decade (even under Buhari's dark clouds), and has billions of dollars in reserves, is trading at a PE of 3. It's ridiculous. [/quote ] PE is a function of perceived risks. With the way the Nigerian economy has been run in the last 10 or so years with inconsistencies and policy somersaults, the risk premium is very high. One thing our economic managers have not learnt is that the greatest asset of any economy is the intangible of investor confidence. |
samguru:Look at it this way. The manipulation AIICO majority shareholders have been doing in the last 4 or so years has been such that they want to capture a greater percentage of the company for themselves. By the last AGM of Tuesday, they have achieved that. Unfortunately, both NAICOM and SEC allowed it. Except for the headwinds of 2020 in the ENDSARS protests and the zero coupon treasury bills which I anticipate will negatively impact their results, this is not the time for anyone that held on to throw in the towel. For the benefits of the majority shareholders and the new Leapfrog investors, they will now reflect the full potentials of the company in their financials. |
Mcy56:Aiico still does not have the respect of the investing public. If one looks at the trading pattern over the last two or so years, aiico's price goes up when an insider is buying large chunk of shares. It goes on full bid for a while with price appreciation after which it settles and the price gradually depreciates again. For me though, the fundamental compelling investment thesis remains. The market will eventually come to terms with it. Having said this, as an insurance company, I am currently concerned on the impact the recent ENDSARS riots will have on the 2020 financials of the company. Whatever it is though will be short lived. |
OBAGADAFFI:My exact thoughts when I was doing my post but forgot to add it. |
OBAGADAFFI:The game of the AIICO majority shareholders and managers is clear. They want to seize the rest of the company from minority shareholders. The rights issue is unnecessary. They do not need the capital. However, they will divide the unsubscribed shares among themselves because many minority shareholders may not be able to pick up the rights or forced to sell a portion of what they currently have to pickup their rights. Either way, they win. After all of these, they will reflect the true state of the company in their financials. Why the regulators will allow them to get away with this is mind boggling. From the point of view of a minority holder though, AIICO is a very low risk enterprise with currently a pe ratio of about 1.7 even if you base it on 11.3 billion shares including the private placement shares. This has not factored in any growth for 2020. The rights issue will further dilute this but it takes the pe ratio to 4.25 at 2019 earnings level. Growth will reduce this ratio further. It explains why they want to corner this company. |
onegentleguy:I don't know if anyone can determine a fair price for any Nigerian equity. I do know though that anyone selling at anything less than N2.00 is passing up a big opportunity. |
onegentleguy:The infidelity of the majority shareholders not withstanding. Anyone that understands the dynamics of AIICO'S business knows they are sitting on a gold mine. They keep amassing government bonds at no cost. |
Heishere:Like I said once, if you chose to invest in Nigeria's stock market, you chose your poison. The management of almost all the companies are corrupt and do outrageous things sometimes to the knowledge of the regulators. Nothing came out of all the email I wrote to the SEC and NAICOM on AIICO and you see their shenanigans everytime they publish their financials. The thing is that they are sitting on a gold mine and they know. As an investor, even though you see that they are doing everything to ascribe a good portion of that gold mine to themselves, as long as you can get a portion of it, you participate as much as you can. |
Heishere:The AIICO q1 result is a continuation of aiico's management practice of depressing the financials to keep the stock price low so they could finish whatever they need to do. The current need is for the MD that was appointed lat year and had no shares before to accummulated shares and is currently doing it at relatively low price. Look at that q1 results again. The last line is a finance cost of slightly over =N=1 billion naira. This is a company that is flushed with cash and government securities. The only liability in their book is the IFC loan of $7 million. I will even grant that included in that finance cost is maybe =N=350 million in the depreciation of the naira and you add that to the normal quarterly cost of about =N=50 million related to the loan. That is still =N=400 million, a good 600 million less than what was charged. But you know what, let's even leave it as the first quarter charge, unless naira completely goes to the gutter, it will not recur in subsequent quarters. That gives you an idea of what the year will look like. This is is addition to an unexplained charge of =N=975 million that AIICO continues to charge every quarter to add to the 'other contract liability' line. By the end of the first quarter, about =N=6 billion has been accummulated on that liability line that AIICO has never explained to whom or what product they owe the money to. Every quarter, it's a charge to the P&L with a credit to that liability. I have checked the financials of other insurance companies and they don't have anything similar. Lastly, you have to consider that the Leapfrog investors bought at =N=1.20. they are no fools if you research into them. They must know what they are buying into. |
maishai:It depends on your objective. If you were going to use the dividends to buy more shares anyway, you will prefer the bonus because that way, you do not need to pay tax on it. If you need the dividend, then you sell the bonus shares in the open market for cash. It is fantastic corporate finance practice. My disappointment is that the bonus shares is only 1 for 5. I expect it to be close to 1 for 1. But then, you still do not know if the new shareholders will share in this bonus share. If they will not, then 1 for 1 will significantly dilute their own portion. |
[quote author=Dupeodus post=89301347]Now that we know the investors in the Private Placements, my view of AIICO has changed somewhat in favor of the company. I do believe that the current major owners, the Fajemirokuns have interests in Leapfrog but will not be the sole interest. That puts them in a conflict of interest situation in that any dilution of the interest of the existing shareholders of AIICO will benefit their own holdings in Leapfrog but will dilute their own existing share holdings in AIICO. They therefore have to execute a balancing act to optimize their own situation. Given that over the years, AIICO has deliberately understated it's profit to suppress it's share price and some of those profits are currently being reflected, the new shareholders should not be getting the proportion of the company indicated by the number of shares they currently hold. To explain this simply, the investment of the new shareholders that brought in their money in late December 2019 did not contribute to the profit of 2019 which is significant. As a matter of fact, the N3 billion from fair value on Treasury Certificates treated as other comprehensive income should be part of the pat because the related increase in insurance contract liabilities coming from the same lowering of interest rates have been deducted from the pat. Other insurance companies treat it this way. To this extent and to be fair to existing shareholders, the new investors should not only not participate in the dividends on the 2019 operations, the company should declare bonus issue consuming most of the 2019 comprehensive total profits to the old shareholders. I am encouraged by the fact that the old major shareholder is not the only new investor, so, they would want to protect their portion of the old interest which protects the old minority shareholders to some extent. However, I expect them to do some balancing act to enhance the value of their new investments which is still at a cost to the old minority shareholders.[/quote I have to correct my posting above. The additional interest of the major shareholder in AIICO is not through an interest in Leapfrog. They actually made additional investment in the private placement through the same vehicle they were using before which is AIICO Bahamas. |
austinkenneth:Now that we know the investors in the Private Placements, my view of AIICO has changed somewhat in favor of the company. I do believe that the current major owners, the Fajemirokuns have interests in Leapfrog but will not be the sole interest. That puts them in a conflict of interest situation in that any dilution of the interest of the existing shareholders of AIICO will benefit their own holdings in Leapfrog but will dilute their own existing share holdings in AIICO. They therefore have to execute a balancing act to optimize their own situation. Given that over the years, AIICO has deliberately understated it's profit to suppress it's share price and some of those profits are currently being reflected, the new shareholders should not be getting the proportion of the company indicated by the number of shares they currently hold. To explain this simply, the investment of the new shareholders that brought in their money in late December 2019 did not contribute to the profit of 2019 which is significant. As a matter of fact, the N3 billion from fair value on Treasury Certificates treated as other comprehensive income should be part of the pat because the related increase in insurance contract liabilities coming from the same lowering of interest rates have been deducted from the pat. Other insurance companies treat it this way. To this extent and to be fair to existing shareholders, the new investors should not only not participate in the dividends on the 2019 operations, the company should declare bonus issue consuming most of the 2019 comprehensive total profits to the old shareholders. I am encouraged by the fact that the old major shareholder is not the only new investor, so, they would want to protect their portion of the old interest which protects the old minority shareholders to some extent. However, I expect them to do some balancing act to enhance the value of their new investments which is still at a cost to the old minority shareholders. |
No, it is not too much. I don't know if the new investors will participate in the dividend. Even if they do, the total will still be less than N2 billion. This company has over N10 billion cash on hand talk less of the excess of government securities over insurance contracts liabilities. The company has also gotten approval for a rights issue. What is the company going to do with all that cash? The shareholders also need to come up with the cash for the rights issue. The company already meets the capital requirements of NAICOM. PharmAlfred: |
austinkenneth:It's an illiquid stock. One person with a reasonably sized order can push the price up. |
rebekah2011:Each one his own. Did you see the amount of cash on the balance sheet? Did you look at the cash flow statement? For the past 4 years, I have followed and have been critical of AIICO's financial statement. I have seen the standards of the financial statement improve significantly over time up to a high level of transparency. There is still room for improvement that I know. My criticism surrounds the fact that AIICO has been significantly understating it's performance over the years to suppress the market price of it's shares to favor the majority shareholders in their private placement. Now that I know that one of the investors in Leap Frog, that view has been tempered somewhat. However, I still believe that as we speak, AIICO has more than =N=5 billion in fictitious liabilities that should have been part of profit before tax over the past 3 years. =N=3.2 billion of it is from 2019 alone. I honestly do not know why they are doing this. I do understand that this is counter intuitive because companies are generally known to inflate their results. |
OBAGADAFFI:AIICO truly does not need the additional capital from the proposed rights issue. The latest unaudited fs for end of 2019 shows that they have the required N18 billion paid up capital as defined. However, most of those capital is in the life business. AIICO has a need to increase the capital for it's general insurance business to enable them to carry the risks of their generated non life business which they have been forced to re-insure over the years because of low capital. I speculate that is the need for the rights issue. I also speculate that they will help shareholders out to find the rights issue by doing a significant dividends this year. In effect, they are re-allocating capital from the life business to the non-life business and for those that re-invest the dividends in the rights issue, it will be like receiving bonus shares, save for the withholding tax. |
Dupeodus:I take the first sentence on this post back. I missed the first item on the notice of the egm that requested for the approval of the investment of leapfrog. It is another way by which aiico treats it's existing shareholders with contempt and I wonder about the people that go to these meetings and approve rubbish like this. The request did not say the level of investment of the investors, how many shares were issued and at what price. Maybe this will follow the terms approved in the last egm done about a year ago. I wonder who leapfrog is. |
chillykelly86:One possibility people are not considering is that aiico might want to increase the authorized share capital to be able to issue bonus shares. Aiico is on course to have excess of N18 billion as capital by year end which meets the new capital requirement of NAICOM. Unless the company sees significantly expanded business opportunity ahead, the company does not need additional capital. |
onegentleguy:You are correct. I am still accummulating despite everything that I have seen. Relative to their current price, history, performance and potential, aiico is an unbelievably cheap company. Their shenanigans will end at some point. I went through the same cycle with NEM. |
Mpeace:This is false reporting. What is contained in the egm resolution is an increase in the authorized share capital. Not an increase in the issued share capital itself that will raise funds. I know aiico's management is playing with it's minority shareholders. They did an egm about a year ago where they got an approval to increase both the authorized and issued share capital to raise N5 billion. I do not know the current status of that. In the last agm, they also got an approval to enter into a technical agreement with an entity that does not even have a web presence. Now they are asking for another approval to enter an agreement with an unnamed entity. When I first started to look at aiico critically around 2017, I suspected that something was off in their treatment of certain foreign assets that they have. I did not have the time to do a thorough analysis. About a month ago, I had the time to trace the movements on the foreign assets on their financials from 2014 to 2018. I was convinced that in 2017, over $7 million of the assets were sold and converted to naira at a rate that is a significant discount to the prevailing exchange rate causing them to write off about N500 million in foreign exchange reserve. This is outright theft. I still do not have time yet to petition the SEC with this. This time, there will also be a petition to efcc. |
OBAGADAFFI:Can you inbox me at Modupe@Comcast.net. I have a question. |
OakPearl:Thanks for your advice. It is the conventional wisdom. However, if you decide to play in the Nigerian market at all, you are faced with these issues all over with the possible exception of Guaranty Trust. AIICO is in the insurance sector which is fairly simpler to decipher, especially the life business. You don't have insight into the asset quality of banks and the conglomerates could also have problems with inventories or receivables. In effect, you have to pick your poison or you chose not to play in the Nigerian market at all as a lot of people I know have decided. I chose where I think the downside will not kill me if it crystalizes while there is potentially considerable upside. AIICO is my second concentration in that cycle. I did the same with NEM knowing all their issues with infidelity and it worked out well. |
Bomboclad:AIICO is a highly profitable company whose management is playing games with the minority shareholders. I strongly believe that there is a game going on with the intent of stealing a significant portion of the company to the majority shareholders at no cost to them. They got the shareholders to approve a Rights issue about a year ago at an EGM. They have not effected the rights issue. They really do not need the capital but it is part of the grand scheme to steal a significant portion of the company. At the last AGM, they got shareholders who never look at things critically to approve a technical agreement with an unknown company with no web presence. Think about that. A company that has been operating successfully for more than 70 years seeking technical support from an unknown company with no web presence. On this latest H1 report, look at the "Other Investment Contract Liabilities" line on note 19(b). It increased by N1.3 billion in 2018. So far this year, it has increased by N1.5 billion. Both of these increases were by a charge to the profit and loss account. What is this liability that AIICO continues to increase by reducing their profit? How does it fit into their business. My guess is that this is where the management are housing the funds to use for the rights issue so they will not have to pay anything themselves. I am hoping they read this post so they will be forced to explain this line. I have investment in AIICO. It's actually a major part of my Nigerian portfolio. This is because I believe that at some point, all of these shenanigans will stop and the company will find its true values. At the present time though, I am grateful for an opportunity to continue to acumulate this company at a tissue paper price level. |
ACAN:AIICO Management or should I say the main shareholder continues to device means to fleece minority shareholders. I got an email notice on Friday, May 17 2019 for an Annual General Meeting that is to hold on Monday, May 20 2019. One of the Special Business to be held in the meeting is for shareholders to ratify a Technical Assistance Agreement between AIICO and a company called 'Oakwood Synergy Hub Limited'. The basis of the fee for this Technical Assistance service is not stated. This company does not even have a web presence. Think about it, a company that does not have a web presence is to give technical assistance to another that has been in existence and doing business for 49 years - since 1970. I am watching. Busy at this point but at the appropriate time, I will be taking this case to the SEC and the House Committee that supervises SEC. At least, they will have many people to bribe before they are to effect their fleecing scheme. |
Godlylifeoneart:We are all humans and prone to anger when unjustifiably provoked. The attack on him was totally uncalled for. No one is forcing any stock down the throat of any other on this board. |
austinkenneth:Thank you for valuable industry info. |
austinkenneth:AIICO learnt from the mistake of NEM. NEM infringed on the provisions of the Company law in not giving adequate notice of their Extra Ordinary General meeting to some key shareholders which formed the basis of their successful law suit. AIICO avoided this and the Extra Ordinary General meeting approving the private placement has been held. The only opportunity left is to point out to the regulatory bodies, the accounting irregularities that AIICO has been committing in order to suppress the market values of the company's shares and actually make provision for creating the additional stocks out of fictitious liabilities instead of paying for them. I have reported this to SEC but I am not sure anything is being done about it. The next level is to take the matter up with the appropriate oversight committee at the National Assembly. I am prepared to do this but waiting for the actual issuance of the shares. I am saying this hoping that AIICO has agents that read this board and they are aware that someone is ready to fight them. Another opportunity is the up coming annual general meeting but I cannot attend. Let me close by pointing out that another effort in suppressing the market value of the company by it's management is the miserly 6k dividend out of an eps of 44k. NEM paid 13k out of an EPS of 39k. I don't think any company on the NSE treats it's shareholders with as much contempt as AIICO treats it's shareholders. |
One thing to note on aiico. The company has not executed the private placement for which they got approval for in the last egm. This would have diluted the holdings of retail shareholders. I still believe the company is still overstating it's liabilities to some extent. The managers are just letting the investors know about the real profitability of this company. It is either they have given up on the scheme to grab a higher proportion of the company for themselves or they are awaiting a more opportune time. I do believe that the delay between the board approval of the accounts and final release is related to this issue. |
