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It was reported today that a police unit in London that
investigates sex crimes was pressured to drop a rape claim
against a man who later went on to murder his two
children.
The damning report by the Independent Police Complaints
Commission also details how the MET’s Sapphire unit failed
to pursue rape allegations properly in order to boost the
team’s detection rates.
The UK already has one of the LOWEST rates of conviction for
allegations of rape in Europe. The below info-graphic, put
together by Information is Beautiful , gives an overview of
how the system is already failing women in light of today’s
news. Zoom in twice to get a clear view of the stats.
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2013/02/rape-low-conviction-rate-in-the-uk/

I found this very terrifying.

The question is who pressured the police to drop charges?
Could it be uninformed folks in social media behind their laptops unwittingly unleashing untold harm to these victims?

The same study reported that 28% of women
who are victims of the most serious intimate offences
never
tell anyone about it, and we know from our experience
within the molestation Crisis movement that only around
15% of
women and girls who experience intimate violence ever
report to the police.
http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/mythsampfacts2.php

These are scientific researches not newspaper articles.
Your argument s tonight have only confirmed these shocking statistics.

coogar: please don't be daft!
the US is quite different from the UK. they are continents apart. i called you out on the UK statistics you clawed out.....

now, let's look at the latest one you have managed to dig out to sound intelligent. see, the general tactics out there has been to expand the definition of räpe so as to make it seem more common.

even verbal coercion or manipulation constitute rapë in this day & age. with such sweeping generalisation, there's hardly anyone out there who hasn't been datë-rapëd according to the premise on which these horrible people have gone on to define räpe.

how do you explain 43% of the victims went on to still date their "attackers"? i don't need to waste my time here. in your leisure, read this article

http://www.leaderu.com/real/ri9502/sommers.html

all you need to know about the exaggerated räpe statistics in the USA are there.....

Here are the UK stats


In January 2013, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), Office for
National Statistics (ONS) and Home Office released its first
ever joint Official Statistics bulletin on sexual violence,
entitled An Overview of Sexual Offending in England and
Wales .
It reported that:
Approximately 85,000 women are raped on average in
England and Wales every year
Over 400,000 women are sexually assaulted each year
1 in 5 women (aged 16 - 59) has experienced some form
of sexual violence since the age of 16.
http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php

Can you see this is a genuine problem?

Government statistics released in January 2013 estimated
that 85,000 women are raped on average in England and
Wales every year, that over 400,000 women are sexually
assaulted annually, and that 1 in 5 women (aged 16 - 59)
has experienced some form of sexual violence since the
age of 16. The same study reported that 28% of women
who are victims of the most serious sexual offences never
tell anyone about it, and we know from our experience
within the Rape Crisis movement that only around 15% of
women and girls who experience sexual violence ever
report to the police.
One reason women and girls tell us they are reluctant to
talk about their experiences is a fear of not being believed,
or of being blamed for what has happened to them, as well
as feelings of shame or self-blame.

I pray you don't fall victim

eeeeeee: The bigots have all run away and the mods have sworn not to put it on the front page.

Not surprising.

Lol this seems to be true.
We need topics that fuel intellectual debates.

http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
Please read why
Please let us drop all sentiments
I have an inspiration of conducting a KAP study on the perception of molestation by men
From the response I'm getting here tonight, i'm very very very shocked.

Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes,
with 60% still being left unreported. 1
Why Will Only 3 Out of Every 100 Rapists Serve Time?
The majority of sexual assault are not reported to the
police (an average of 60% of assaults in the last five
years were not reported). 1 Those rapists, of course, will
never spend a day in prison. But even when the crime is
reported, it is unlike to lead to an arrest and
prosecution. Factoring in unreported rapes, only about
3% of rapists will ever serve a day in prison.

coogar: perhaps you need to get contact lens....

The report, written by Professor Cheryl Thomas from University College London, analysed all four thousand jury rapë verdicts in England and Wales between 2006 and 2008. It found 55% of rapë cases resulted in conviction.

newspaper article indeed!!!
so many half baked nigerian graduates on this forum, it's baffling!

I picture you sitting snugly in one of those juries.

Source please.

coogar: and that myth had been long debunked as nonsense. conviction is more likely(55% rate) in all the reported räpe cases in the UK. i get peeved when laboratory rëtards like yourself just bandy statistics without proper research.


http://www.theguardian.com/uk/feedarticle/8949340

You call a scientific research myth and a newspaper article fact?
Gosh!
You really need help.

According to the American Medical Association (1995),
sexual violence, and rap e in particular, is considered the
most under-reported violent crime.
Kelly, L., Lovett, J., Regan, L. (February 2005). "A
gap or a chasm? Attrition in reported rap e
cases" (PDF). Home Office, Home Office Research
Study 293. Retrieved 2010-12-31.

Pls let us all say no to molestation.

A 2007 government report in England says
"Estimates from research suggest that between 75 and
95 percent of rape crimes are never reported to the
police."
Without consent: A report on the joint review of
the investigation and prosecution of rape offences" .
Crown Prosecution Service Inspectorate. January 2007.
p. 8. Retrieved 6 April 2007.

The attitude of the police in many countries often
discourages victims from reporting rape: one study in
Turkey found that 33% of police officers agreed with the
assertion that "some women deserve rape"
http://business.highbeam.com/435388/
article-1G1-111635867/turkish-university-students-
attitudes-toward-rape

The pro molesters are only confirming these shocking statistics.
What a sad situation.

depressionkills: This individual goes around calling anyone who debunks their shaky and weak argumentation a 'mumu' or 'stupid' yet has failed so far to provide any sound argument. Calling people a mumu or stupid, wont make you intelligent, it only shows your lack of faith in yourself and the points you put forth.
Prejudices and stereotypes of the likes 'British women are easy, drunkyards, lie about rape' have no intellectual value other than feed the lowest instincts of inferior people.
On the same basis, one could argue that because some Nigerians have defrauded others in the past, EVERY SINGLE NIGERIAN IS A FRAUDSTER AND SHOULD BE SUSPECTED OF BEING ONE even without any proof.
So because some Africans commit visa fraud, every African should be suspected of doing so. How dumb is that? Bigotry and prejudice have no intellectual value whatsoever. This is not fair at all and justice should function off fairness. I am sorry but you are clearly the dumbass here.
The fact that another Nigerian was wrongfully accused by a British lady of rape in a totally unrelated case proves NOTHING about this case, if you think it does, you have no room to call anyone a 'mumu'. It actually proves that the British police can be trusted on this matter because they managed to expose the lady in that case as a liar. So the system may no be perfect but it is working.
Also I could just as well unearth stories of incidences of rape totally unrelated to this case to make my point.

Your methodology and reasoning are flawed , backward and very very very dangerous!
If you cant come up with a FACT in this very story without speculating or resorting to name calling and prejudices to argue your point, stop talking rubbish.
Evidences presented so far have proven that he IS A RAPIST.
You guise over here are rewriting the script to frame her as a liar WITHOUT PROOF, talking about how she agreed to sex then was mad because he didnt pay her breakfast or whatever, as if you were there when it all happened, so desperate that you have to bring up some old stories totally unrelated.

Most of you here defending this guy should hang your head in shame and ask yourself what went wrong in your life for you to waste so much energy DEFENDING A CONVICTED RAPIST.
If you live in the UK, like I do , you should know better than saying dumb stuff like ' British women are this and that' because you know damn well that many people hold deep prejudices against Africans especially Nigerian men. If everyone had been like you and judged you on the mistakes of others, nobody would ever have given you a chance, listen to guy or judge you on your own merit. Actually, the UK would have closed their borders to Africans a long time ago simply on the basis that other Africans have committed crimes here.

So stop contributing to the widespread of rape culture by systematically demonizing rape victims and accusing them of lying when they find the courage to come forward!

My goodness,
This is called a technical knockout,
The pro molestation crew should learn from these hard facts.

Katsumoto: Don't be a tool.

I accused you of lying because you stated that you live/lived in the UK.

And no one is defending Popoola, people who have experience of the UK are only offering alternative assessments based ON experience in the UK.

See my post above
I don't want pro molesters coming for me.
They seem to be on the prowl
Goodnight.

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My brother i think its best i listen to you on this one! a lot of pro-ra.pe conspiracy theorist are here today. Abeg make i do run o! Its a shame how low some Nigerians are willing to go, to the point that they now defend the depraved and morally corrupt.[/quote]LMAO
I think i'll heed that advice.

FAKE GOAL

Katsumoto: If he was accused of rape in the UK by an English woman, yes I would have defended him.

If Popoola and Afam were both accused of rape in Fiji, I would ask that they both be locked up for a long time.

Why did you try to lie about living in the UK? Can you be honest about that?

So your job is to go around defending molesters;
And accusing anyone who tries to say the obvious of lying

Not an enviable one.

shymexx: Have you ever seen a drunk white chic say "NO" to sex?

You mean the same chics that would kiss everyone in the club after just a pint of cider can say "NO" to sex?

Anyway, this has nothing to do with the guy's ethnicity - the whole thing is pure nonsense.

This is one of the reasons why I don't mess with white chics, to be honest. Because you never know what to expect with them.

This i agree with and this is what he should have had at the back of his mind.

Katsumoto:

Just as I thought.

Offering an opinion on an incident in the UK all the way from Alaigbo.

So everyone who tries to condemn a wrong doing by a Yoruba is Igbo?
Would you have defended him if his name was Afam?

Katsumoto: Dude,

You have never lived in the UK. Don't even try to lie.

I put it to you that you have not even lived anywhere in Europe or North America.

Don't kid yourself.

Dude run along,
i don't need to prove anything to you.

shymexx: Did you read the whole article?

Wait, they went to McD's together, then to a pub. Got wasted (everyone knows how English women drink). Went to the victim's house. Did whatever they did but she never shouted ra.pe then. The guy left and she alleged that he rap.ed her probably the next day or a few days later.

Isn't that the usual story of all false ra.pe accusations?

Exactly a perfect scenario for molestation.

One is wasted and "NO I'M NOT UP TO IT TONITE" sounds so distant and lame that he presses on irrespective.

One should always try and make money the clean way.

Katsumoto: Good

So what is your experience of English women?

Have men/boys been accused of rape in the UK only for investigation to prove that the women lied?

Have some English women later changed their story of being raped?

And where do you live or where did you live in the UK?

There are genuine and false accusations everywhere, not just the UK so stop trying to justify the crime by pinning it on the attitude of the Brits cause it not any different from others in the west.

shymexx: Who cares about where you live and don't ask me dumb questions.

And have I told you that I mess with white chics?

Debate the topic!

I don't care where you live either, but don't come here feeding people thrash like you are talking to a bunch of dolts.

Katsumoto: Have either of you ever lived in the UK?

Yes

shymexx: If you don't live in a place or don't know what the experience is like, it's better to watch from the side-lines - rather than post an opinion. And no one is defending the guy, however, the whole story doesn't make sense.

It's the UK and that's how white women are. They get loose after a few pints of cider, sha.g anymore, and start screaming rape, afterwards. Go ask Celestine Babayaro, Titus Bramble and tons of people who have been through similar madness.

I believe the reason why they didn't do a thorough investigation with this man is because of his status and past. 4 days to convict a guy for ra.pe is absolutely crazy and more reason why the whole accusation is utter bollocks.

Well, he deserves it. He should have known better. Also he has a family and he should have kept his django in check.

Crap, like you are the only one that has lived in the UK.
Have you ever been charged with molestation?

funnyx: Afam, you see while some may appear to be defending the convicted rapist many others are just looking at other possible scenarios based on what many British white girls are known for. There has been many cases of false rape claims in Britain and it appears to be getting worse, a simple search on daily mail website brings out the following:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?sel=site&searchPhrase=false+rape+claim+woman+sentenced

Really?
Now it's the British women, you want it to get to the level of India before they start crying out.
There are false claims everywhere and genuine ones too.

Afam4eva: I'm not surprised that some people are defending an accused rapist.

Indeed a very sad attitude.
We are not all perfect but at least let us condemn what is wrong.

Katsumoto: “As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.” - Proverbs 23 verse 7

Not every thinks as primitive as you do.

oh please,
why go out of your way to try and justify what he has done,
no one is perfect, but I don't see you defending other people, so why him?
Does it have anything to do with his name?

Katsumoto: It appears that many folks here don't know the antics of English women.

If you say the wrong thing, the morning after, they will scream sex. I know a dude who was inside for 6 months because he refused to walk the gal to the train station. Tests would later prove he didn't rape her. She admitted and was charged.

Something curious about this case, I didn't read anything about medical tests on the lady. So basically he was convicted on her oral evidence alone.

All this crap to protect a "brother" rapist?

Hero10001: I was at the Airport MMIA2 yesterday morning and I SMH for Nigeria.
The Terminal is deteriorating everday.
Come see dirty everwhere cheii!!
No ventillation, Poor management, poor old (big belle) security personnels,.
Poor walk ways,
come see Old mama dey do flight attendant!!
Everything poor..
The car park is so disgusting that my 'Big Daddy Camry' neary got drowned in the 'Pot holes and Man holes' all over the park.
To cap it off, come see how Beggars and disables dey rush arrivals for picking point!!!
Why Plane mishaps won't happen when we're having poor and ineficient people in our Aviation Industry?!
Who's to be blamed for all this shit??!
The incompetent; Directors/Minister/Managements?
Governor/President/
Nigerians?
I SMH for Naija.
There is hope.

From what you wrote I can deduce the following

You have never been to MMIA before
You just bought a tokumbo Camry
You are not very intelligent with words

Promhize: Nigerian graduates are better than Ghana's, I can say it anywhere, anytime.

The police bribe, I'd like to know your definition of bribe because what most of our policemen/women collect is a tip and not bribe.

In the case of examination malpractice, I guess its been a while you have been to any Nigerian university. I school in oau and there's no such as malpractice being condoned, there'd surely be cases of lecturers awarding some students marks even in the so-called good educational systems.

In the case of JAMB, JAMB officials don't take nonsense, if you'd talked about NECO - which most Nigerians don't take serious, compared to WAEC which most accepted and taken in high regard.

In an effort to curb Malpractices Jamb introduced metal detectors, rigorous paper types, they ban exam centres with the slightest evidence of malpractice.

You must be joking about the bribe.

Afam4eva: http://www.punchng.com/sports/i-can-be-worlds-best-enyeama/

Afam, why u come carry this dry thread put for front page, while better ones they dey languish.
Na pasha oh

atlwireles: You have always maintained this position, and your arguments have remained the same, regardless of the person involved.. My problem lies with the crowd coming out to defend Lagos now, but spew garbage when Jonah went to china, and basic got almost $4b at 2% interest. They cried bloody murder.

It is double standards.
And no one has been able to answer the questions I asked.
I believe Lagos' economy should be self sustaining.
And not sinking deeper in debt.

Demdem: There is nothing wrong being tribal. what is wrong is what one does with it.

To show you how ridiculous you sound substitute tribal with racist.