₦airaland Forum

Katsumoto: Good

So what is your experience of English women?

Have men/boys been accused of rape in the UK only for investigation to prove that the women lied?

Have some English women later changed their story of being raped?

And where do you live or where did you live in the UK?

There are genuine and false accusations everywhere, not just the UK so stop trying to justify the crime by pinning it on the attitude of the Brits cause it not any different from others in the west.

shymexx: Who cares about where you live and don't ask me dumb questions.

And have I told you that I mess with white chics?

Debate the topic!

I don't care where you live either, but don't come here feeding people thrash like you are talking to a bunch of dolts.

Katsumoto: Have either of you ever lived in the UK?

Yes

shymexx: If you don't live in a place or don't know what the experience is like, it's better to watch from the side-lines - rather than post an opinion. And no one is defending the guy, however, the whole story doesn't make sense.

It's the UK and that's how white women are. They get loose after a few pints of cider, sha.g anymore, and start screaming rape, afterwards. Go ask Celestine Babayaro, Titus Bramble and tons of people who have been through similar madness.

I believe the reason why they didn't do a thorough investigation with this man is because of his status and past. 4 days to convict a guy for ra.pe is absolutely crazy and more reason why the whole accusation is utter bollocks.

Well, he deserves it. He should have known better. Also he has a family and he should have kept his django in check.

Crap, like you are the only one that has lived in the UK.
Have you ever been charged with molestation?

funnyx: Afam, you see while some may appear to be defending the convicted rapist many others are just looking at other possible scenarios based on what many British white girls are known for. There has been many cases of false rape claims in Britain and it appears to be getting worse, a simple search on daily mail website brings out the following:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?sel=site&searchPhrase=false+rape+claim+woman+sentenced

Really?
Now it's the British women, you want it to get to the level of India before they start crying out.
There are false claims everywhere and genuine ones too.

Afam4eva: I'm not surprised that some people are defending an accused rapist.

Indeed a very sad attitude.
We are not all perfect but at least let us condemn what is wrong.

Katsumoto: “As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.” - Proverbs 23 verse 7

Not every thinks as primitive as you do.

oh please,
why go out of your way to try and justify what he has done,
no one is perfect, but I don't see you defending other people, so why him?
Does it have anything to do with his name?

Katsumoto: It appears that many folks here don't know the antics of English women.

If you say the wrong thing, the morning after, they will scream sex. I know a dude who was inside for 6 months because he refused to walk the gal to the train station. Tests would later prove he didn't rape her. She admitted and was charged.

Something curious about this case, I didn't read anything about medical tests on the lady. So basically he was convicted on her oral evidence alone.

All this crap to protect a "brother" rapist?

Hero10001: I was at the Airport MMIA2 yesterday morning and I SMH for Nigeria.
The Terminal is deteriorating everday.
Come see dirty everwhere cheii!!
No ventillation, Poor management, poor old (big belle) security personnels,.
Poor walk ways,
come see Old mama dey do flight attendant!!
Everything poor..
The car park is so disgusting that my 'Big Daddy Camry' neary got drowned in the 'Pot holes and Man holes' all over the park.
To cap it off, come see how Beggars and disables dey rush arrivals for picking point!!!
Why Plane mishaps won't happen when we're having poor and ineficient people in our Aviation Industry?!
Who's to be blamed for all this shit??!
The incompetent; Directors/Minister/Managements?
Governor/President/
Nigerians?
I SMH for Naija.
There is hope.

From what you wrote I can deduce the following

You have never been to MMIA before
You just bought a tokumbo Camry
You are not very intelligent with words

Promhize: Nigerian graduates are better than Ghana's, I can say it anywhere, anytime.

The police bribe, I'd like to know your definition of bribe because what most of our policemen/women collect is a tip and not bribe.

In the case of examination malpractice, I guess its been a while you have been to any Nigerian university. I school in oau and there's no such as malpractice being condoned, there'd surely be cases of lecturers awarding some students marks even in the so-called good educational systems.

In the case of JAMB, JAMB officials don't take nonsense, if you'd talked about NECO - which most Nigerians don't take serious, compared to WAEC which most accepted and taken in high regard.

In an effort to curb Malpractices Jamb introduced metal detectors, rigorous paper types, they ban exam centres with the slightest evidence of malpractice.

You must be joking about the bribe.

Afam4eva: http://www.punchng.com/sports/i-can-be-worlds-best-enyeama/

Afam, why u come carry this dry thread put for front page, while better ones they dey languish.
Na pasha oh

atlwireles: You have always maintained this position, and your arguments have remained the same, regardless of the person involved.. My problem lies with the crowd coming out to defend Lagos now, but spew garbage when Jonah went to china, and basic got almost $4b at 2% interest. They cried bloody murder.

It is double standards.
And no one has been able to answer the questions I asked.
I believe Lagos' economy should be self sustaining.
And not sinking deeper in debt.

Demdem: There is nothing wrong being tribal. what is wrong is what one does with it.

To show you how ridiculous you sound substitute tribal with racist.

ballabriggs: Yes to accelerate the development of Africa, you need debt finance from external sources. That Dubai you see today grew with a lot of debt finance. Islamic finance, bonds etc It is needed to speed-up development.

Of what use is it that he reduced debt and Anambra remains a shit hole after 8 years. What revenue are we talking about? Max at N2 billion per month. Can that meet a quarter of the States development needs? Where will the rest come from?

Well do you want it to be the same as Lagos.
I can assure you Anambra has one of the best rural road networks in Nigeria, and is not poo, it also has one of the lowest poverty rates in Nigeria, as well as one of the highest literacy rates, is the state with the third highest number of professors in Nigeria, it is also one of the newer states.
Is among the second tier states after Lagos where cashless banking was started.

No need to get derogatory and pull stats out from nowhere.

Anyway lest we lose focus, we are talking about LAGOS' INDEBTEDNESS AND BORROWING CRAZE.

ballabriggs: That one Peter Obi does not borrow, does that make it appropriate?

The fact is, being below an optimum debt level could be as bad as exceeding it. It is about optimality.

Also can you finance development in Anambra without debt? Where will the funds come from?

Fact is, to develop Africa you will need to seek finance from outside as Africa cannot meet its development finance requirements. To praise a man for not seeking debt finance could be ignorant.

Really?

I am not an advocate of Peter Obi, so i wouldn't want to go singing his praises,
The facts are he is a seasoned economist, who inherited a heavily indebted state and was able to turn that around, i don't see any ignorance in commending that.
He laid an economic foundation by focusing on projects that will generate revenue, state oil refineries, breweries etc, therefore he was able to reduce his borrowing to a minimum, with this he was able to sustain his capital expenditure and clear his debts.

bestview:
They are only warming to pounce on the resources of Anambra to further enrich themselves. They have just rendered Imo state useless with heavy debt now with nothing on the ground for okorocha to show for it.

I really hope that doesn't happen.
Peter Obi is not perfect but his ability to erase all the states debt despite some massive capital project is commendable.
I only wish he allowed soludo a chance.

Imo's case is indeed disturbing, APC party ideologies with debt is not at all encouraging.
I hope Anambra doesn't get entangled with debts if APC wins which is very unlikely.

Femmyfamous4u: The truth is that even the most developed nations of the world are all indebted but what we should consider is the capability to repay the loan. I was shocked when I found out that US is indebted to the tune of $12.6 trillion although it prides itself of having best infrastructures, high life expectancy and standard of living that is befitting. As a financial expert, all countries of the world(state inclusive) are not allowed to obtain any loan exceeding 40% of GDP. Inspite of Lagos state's high debt profile, it is still "healthy" to obtain more loans but I think we all should rather demand transparency, accountability and frown at any act of profligacy in government spending.

Thank you femmy for your last statement and for artfully putting that healthy in parenthesis.
If only more of your folks share the same view.
You know very well this issue is what put US in it's present state, continually adjusting its debt ceiling.
The rest of the world (maybe with the exception of China) watches on anxiously hoping they don't goof and pull down everyone with them.

Back to Lagos,
I don't envy the person that will inherit Fashola's debts and barrage of unfinished projects.

Mynd_44: BRT workers are NOT owed salaries. Why is it that people are not getting this issue. The only class of BRT workers which get their salary from the state government are the RED ones(LAGBUS). The Blue ones are not on the government's payroll. Plus they are not being owed, their salaries are 2 days late. They normally get paid on the 25th and today is 27. Not like it is the concern of the state government anyway.

I don't know about the pensioners. Maybe you would want to tell us the pensioners of which state government agency the state owes and come up with proof of that too.

**waiting**

Just scroll down the front page for the BRT story and read it


All what you have stated does not answer the question of Lagos' increasing indebtedness.

What I see is unfortunate satisfaction with poor governance, due to blind party and tribal affiliations.
The problem with Nigeria.

When these people retire as billionaires, then it will be too late.

U have to admire the fan spirit of murinho.
I dey beef am sha

A heart breaking goal is coming from city

A heart braking goal is coming from city

Mikel I like u but stand up

Nothing will come out of this
I said it

Mynd_44: Have you considered that these loans are not for recurrent expenditure? Recurrent expenditure is taken cared of already.

These loans are going into taking care of the numerous capital projects on the state's hands. It does not need loans for salaries etc, it does not even need the federal allocation for that (remember the case of OBJ and Lagos).

With the fourth mainland bride, the light rail project, Eko Atlantic city, the road expansion and the water project, there is the need to outsource for funds. This is basic economic principle.

Definitely, such loans are meant mainly for capital projects,
but BRT workers are being owed,
pensioners are being owed,
let's not forget this,
Lagos is owing like never before,
and is borrowing more,

bogus capital projects are the easiest means to siphon funds from unsuspecting tax payers,

Are you putting the puzzle together now?
We need to ask questions.

why murinho dey shake head like fowl.

Oscar's free kick is the best I've seen

I pray the mods put this on the front page so that millions with similar question will be clarified.

Mynd_44: If I make N150K each month and I want to buy a car worth 300K I can keep part of that money aside until I can raise it right?

On the other hand if what I want to buy is very important, I can decide to take a loan and a certain amount is taken from the N150- each month while what I want to deal with has been settled.

We need to ask the right questions here

Why is Lagos debt increasing astronomically despite her very large IGR?
Let's put sentiments aside here.

This is the right question.

The answer, to me is lack of visionary governance.
No one leaves more than double the debt he met in office while exiting.
Fashola needs to answer these questions.

Mynd_44: So you believe that Lagos owes N193 billion and don't believe it generates N29 billion each month from IGR even though it is from the same article?

Perhaps we should see how much is being put into payback each month/quarter/year so we see whether this is healthy or not.

But if you make N349 Billion and owe N193Billion, it is very sustainable.

Bingo

That is the question being asked here.
If you claim to generate a humongous 29billion monthly,
why then do you have to keep borrowing.

It can only mean that
the revenue is not well managed, or the recurrent expenditure far outweighs the IGR.

Lagos has never been knee deep in debt as it is now.

We need to start asking questions.

CHELSHIT just woke up the big boys.

bestview:

I don't care if they all perish with the huge debt profile. My concern is that they want to bring the same evil party to Anambra. They will be humiliated in November..

Ngige has lost already, the focus is to rescue Lagos before APC washes it away with debts.