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lmao alot of single mothers as single friends --- of course you do. you should be locked in a room with your own voice for company you can sound so stupid sometimes. Talk here talk there and end up making no sense muthafunke'

BITE ME

You are such a dumb idiot, and not only so, you must have had an absolutely ridiculuous upbringing.

Your warped mind cannot take in anything that does not feature in your wierd world of loonies and so you resort to attacking anyone who has contrary views and opinions. You have done it to a few on some threads and I am not afraid of taking on imbeciles like you, especially indecent and uncultured ones.

You have a problem with who my friends are? Go and find idiots like yourself for company,

VOR:
Easy,

You are wrong in your contention and I will illustrate to you why.

Take the case of two Nigerian students in the UK, (they are both legal residents in that they hold valid student visas),
the wife has a child born in the UK. Is that child British?

Under the current immigration act the answer will be no.

As of 31/12/82 someone born in the UK did not NECESSARILY acquire automatic UK citezenship.

That's exactly the way I was born and I'm British,

neither of my parents is British by the way

laudate:
Uh? Isn't that a rather narrow point of view? What if the mother is an intelligent, hard-working, caring, truthful, honest, sensitive widow? Should the fact that she has a kid without a father, condemn her to a life of[i] 'single-hood'[/i]?

Should the fact that a woman made an error of judgement somewhere, somehow by getting pregnant & has retraced her steps enough to forge ahead & take care of herself and her kid alone, make her a pariah?

Thank goodness, not all men think like you do!

Some women get pregnant, but not all, keep it. A few give up the kid for adoption, several others arrange a termination, quietly,  because for them, this is an easy way out. Child birth & child rearing is not kid's play. And it takes a lot of courage for a woman to walk that road, all alone. Many men date & marry women that have had a termination in the past, and those men are deluded into thinking that because there are no kids in public view, their woman is some kind of saint, or she is in some way better than those single mothers who have kids to show for their folly. They walk away with a self-righteous smirk after putting down single mums, for their folly, in having kids outside wedlock.

I have seen some of these single mums get married to some other decent men at the end of the day, who end up taking care of them & treating those children, like their own.

One needs to look at this issue in a realistic manner. Am not an advocate of women having kids outside wedlock because it is fashionable or convenient to do so. But am also not an advocate of treating single mothers like dirt or looking down on them, because they didn't toe the moral line dictated by their society. I believe by helping those single mums to find their feet & making sure they realise there is a better alternative out there, they would be able to get back on the 'straight & narrow', and still make a success of their lives & raise their children, well. Who knows what those children would become, tomorrow? A supreme court judge, a preacher, a doctor or even a president of the most powerful country in the world? Just think! The possiblities are endless.

In a world where some women cry daily, because they cannot have children, others are being castigated & ridiculed, for becoming single mothers. Its' really amazing!

What makes it a narrow point of view? Is it the fact that I made choices that I feel are best for me? Must my choices in life be the same as your thoughts?

By the way, I don't care what any woman wants to become in her life or whether or not she made a mistake and is rectifying it. It had been my choice for a long time never to marry anyone who has had a child. If you want to marry all the single parents in the world, it's your prerogative so don't come here and give me feminist theories about who's doing well.

Who's doing well is not what affects my life choices.

The fact that I chose not to marry a single mother does not imply I treat them with disdain, you are the narrow minded one who doesn't seem able to accept the fact that everyone is entitled to make choices with regards to how they want to live their lives and who they live their lives with.

I have, as you may or may not be able to imagine, quite a number of single mothers as good friends!!!

Donzman:
Well, the price of hotels in Nigeria has nothing to do with the white man irrespective of what you think!

Do you read before you respond?

adconline:
back to business,

Is UK a democracy since house of Lords members serve for life and are not elected?
Hosni Mubaraka of Egypt is a democrat?
Omar Bongo of Gabon is a democrat?
Democracy has nationally benefited Zimbabweans

adcon, I have been awaiting responses to these and no one seems to be able to respond

Does anybody know if this man is contesting for the presidency?

kodewrita:
Its true that we operate a dictatorial democracy but it would be naive to expect us to move straight from a militocracy to a civilian environment. the transition will be fraught with danger of course. i believe in spite of all the noise we make, we will never break up. why? because some regions have become so dependent on others that they cannot bear to allow them to leave that easily e.g (the three northern regions) and almost all the major companies are in the Lagos-Ogun-Oyo area and as such the merchant-politicians or political contractors will not allow that to happen.

Sometimes a well-intentioned dictatorship can be better than a graft-ridden democracy. example: saddam rebuilt iraq witihin 1000 days of his defeat in kuwait in 1991

I love your optimism about the Nigerian nation.

However, I must admit I have found myself sometimes questioning the union which doesn't seem to have worked

superman:
hmmmmmm being blah blah blah doesnt emmm, u think? na wahoooooooo !!foolish statement ! god bless united nigeria!

It's easy to understand why Nigerians are easy targets when negative things are to be reported. We dont have high self esteem. We regard every other race higher than ourselves and we are always ever too willing to condemn ourselves so they do it knowing that majority of us will concur.

How many times do you hear any American saying that Americans are fraudsters and scammers? They are much more fraudulent than Nigerians are. I get more scam phone calls from American companies than any others. You get phoney lotteries that you never played but you are supposesd to have won all from some funny American Companies. It's not limited to Americans, the Brits too and many other nationals but we despise ourselves so they help us to bring us down and damage our reputation.

I am not saying that we should not point out that there are some bad elements within our society but there are good and bad elements in every society.

ruescho:
Thanx for that reply but this one goes for the girls. What about the parents?

I would rather die than let my sweet little girl (my daughter) do that work!

How can any parents not just suffer, but even want them to do that job?

Parents and children are in the same society, they tend to have the same mindset and mentality.
These parents also want their daughters to come home to chieftaincy titles and honorary university degrees.

Nobody cares again how you made your wealth as long as you have financial wealth. every parent wants his/her child to have a place of pride in society so if Nigerians don't care how people became wealthy, more and more Nigerians will resort to ANY MEANS to make money, And more and more Nigerians will encourage their children to do anything to make money.

I think that's a good obsession.

It is much better than being obsessed with scamming to make money or any other illegal activity. Besides, your obsession means that you are aspiring to be able to contribute positively to the society.

Way to go matey!

It never ceases to amaze me as well.

But when you look around and see the attitude of some young girls, you begin to understand why some people will do absolutely anything to try and improve their financial lot in life.

Most people now believe that it doesn't matter what you do as long as you make money, and plenty of it too. That why girls will tell you it doesn't matter whether they have kids out of wedlock or not, whether they are living responsibly or not or whether they are setting good examples or not as long as they have money. Shamefully, the acquisition of material wealth has become the measure of what is good.

Men who loot the treasury are honoured with chieftaincy titles and honorary university degrees, women who have lived lives of easy virtues return to Nigeria with enough pounds and they are instantly eulogised and they become role models who even find themselves in positions to advise younger people. Men who are scammers and drug dealers become chiefs, all these things make any society rotten

Nigerians dont care anymore where/how you made money. If you have money, you have the respect of every Nigeria, it's a shame

BTW, it appears some people appear on certains threads hmmm

and they seem to always speak in defence of the white man irrespective of what is being said

kimba:
Is it the white man's fault that we(Nigerian and Nigerians) are so stupid.

Forget the white man for a minute. Are we not cheating ourselves?

mamajama, I cant agree with you that the cost of lodging at Sheraton is anything to do with white man cheating us. The cost, as indicated by other posters earlier, is driven by market forces. As much as I agree that the white man exploited us in the past, this one has no relevance to that.

Have you considered the fact that the average Nigerian like to show off and would just want to stay at Sheraton Hotel in order to let people know he can afford it? That kind of mentality means that Sheraton continues to enjoy husge patronage.

If demand for accommodation in Sheraton falls, the price will have to fall as well.

righocream:
@FEELGOOD.


seems like you havea problem somewhere. I only gave a few lines of advises but since you did not that you can atleast give yours also. I am in no condition to convince you about why I think he should marry whoever he wants to. but I am here just to give him examples and reasons why we love the older chicks better ootherwise the younger ones just are somewhat shy and will hardly let you know what is going on in their minds.

you can say that I am obsessed. I can easily bet that you are in no present relationship or you have never had any experience so please find somewhere to throw your frustration and annoyance and if you need help just ask the whole room and we would be sure to help you out ,

have a nice time aighttt!!!

there should be no need for an abusive rant

feelgood:
Dear Eurphoria, a 'picture perfect' family with the kids going through harrowing experiences is d opposite.
I also blve that marriage is really underrated, but then I suppose you have your reasons. And I'm truly a very old fashioned xtian

feelgood, God bless you and your family. It's always good to know that there is still a majority of people who are leading good and decent lives as opposed to the vociferous few who try to encourage indiscretion in family life and encourage others to lead loose lifestyles.

Remain blessed bro

panafrican,

I know you believe that the US will strike Venezuela for nationalising companies operating within Venezuela. It's a great shame that we have come to see the US as a Nation that fights wars whenever it wants to further it's economic interests. However, I dont think the US will be dumb enough to wage a war on the strength of a country nationalising companies. It may look for other sinister motives with which to attack Venezuela.


America is a country of immense ability but I think every nation should be allowed to decide how it wants to progress. America is at liberty to withdraw it's companies and co-operation from Venezuela as it usually does to African and Middle East countries whenever they come out with policies that it finds unfavourable.

Adekan has a good spirit.

I just checked again for confirmation and, a child born out of wedlock is a Bastard, according to the dictionary.

Radiant:
I see you have a reason to read up such infos. Goodluck!

that reason has obviously not been enough to push me to ask for advise on planned single parenthood, goodluck to you too.

My first son is over 12 and I just returned from a holiday with my family, that's probably enough reason for me to worry about you wanting advise on having kids out of wedlock.

Radiant:
Easy, I know they're such links but to go digging them and reading them is way out of my comprehension.

I read stuff when I feel the need to. You don't even know what I do in life and what I may have done in life to make me want to find out about stuff but it's way out of your comprehension for anyone to go digging and reading stuff that don't support your lifestyle, fine thought system.

Radiant:
Why should it? Go n sleep my friend!

I have slept and woken up, as I do everyday and will continue to do as long as God gives me life in this world. I have no such concerns as single parenthood, child out of wedlock etc. I am thankful to God.

Eurphoria:
lol @Rad

why does this not suprise me

Radiant:
Easy, this one you know all the links and whatever, are you a victim?

I am shocked that you are unable to realise that these things are extremely easy to look up online just by putting them into google or any other search engine.

Note the link with fatherlessness

http://familyfirst.net/pressroom/violentstreets.asp

You may wish to read the book "Broken Homes, Broken Children" by Mary Eberstadt

:-x

mamaput:
The problems Nigerian Girls are going through is that you Nigerian men think they are not good enough for you.
It is you men that like to go and bring a girl from home. A good girl that has not open eye.
Nigerian women hear their bio Clock ticking and go ahead and have their kids with or with out Husband.
Whats the big deal as long as the mother knows the fathers name. and the way to his village

I think you'll find that most Nigerian men do not really care where their Nigerian wives are from as long as they are not acting too westernised. It's not about 'open eye', in my opinion, but what a girl does when she has got to the level of 'open eye'.

They often regret it later in life and what irks me is the fact that they are all too willing to mislead younger ones rather than tell them where they have gone wrong. I'm not really an expert on this subject matter so I should keep it at that