OfoIgbo:


In Delta state, Aniomas and Urhobos far outnumber the Ijaws. Itsekiris and Isobos are not really outnumbered by Delta Ijaws.

So there is no way in hell that Ijaws are up to 400,000 in Delta state.

I think in total Ijaws may be around 3.5 million

A single lie is all you need to ruin your every truth, Bayelsa alone is technically 3.5 million, so what are you saying, you can't be partially truthful,

Captain8:
thank you my brother..... am also from delta state.... Ijaws hold 35% as population in delta..... we are the largest ethnicity in delta....

also remember Ijaws are in akwa ibom.... recent nddc protest akwa ibom Ijaws also blocked uyo...

We need to start putting things straight, every side is trying to make the Ijaws a spoil, but we are a majority tribe in Southern Nigeria by all ramifications, population, number of states, landmass, etc by landmass we are still third, After Yoruba, Igbo, the next people in landmass is Ijaw, by coastlines, we are the second, After Yorubas the next people by coastline is Ijaw, what are they even saying.

Ariani:
See the ethnic census of NIGERIA in 1952. Ijaw was not in the top 5.
Ijaw is like 8th ranked.

1.Hausa
2.Ibo
3.Yoruba
4. Fulani
5.Kanuri
6. Tiv
7.Ibibio
8. IJaw (still debatable, as there are bigger groups like Nupe, etc)

How does 1952 reflect Reality on ground, in 1952 the Eastern region a predominantly Ibo Region and mind you that was the rise of the Igbos when most ethnic Nationalities of the East are mistaken as Igbos, I never doubt the close ties between Igbos and Ijaws but things like these are why Ijaws wants a distinct nationality of Niger Delta because should it be before most of the Izon territories could be erroneously be termed Ibo

Omoluabi1stborn:


Challenge accepted.

I jaws in Ondo and Edo are not more than 500k combined.

I jaws in bayelsa are not more than 3M

Now that 3.5M

Can you list the local government dominated by ijaws in both Rivers and Delta?

Let's check the population

Is local government now the primary means of population demographia, anyway your trying to play down in Ijaw population changes nothing, I had given you a straight statistic very simplistic, keep trying to play it down the day that it will be clear it will be clear.

heniford2:
i spit out we can never be useless ijaw

Who are "we", please speak for yourself, if you are not Ijaw, you are not Ijaw, but the Ijaws are a majority in Delta state, you just can't change that fact

SonofLothbrok:


3rd largest what?

Ijaws are not more than 2 million people.
Ijaws are not even the largest ethnic groups in those state you mentioned.
Ijaws can only be found in bayelsa state and just a small number of them in few states.

Why not come with verifiable fact like I did to state our position as the third largest ethnic nationality in Southern Nigeria

iamuyiekpen:
Ijaws are strangers in Edo and have never been considered as natives and will never be considered as one. This whole Ijaw population is a lie from the pit of hell.

The day we come for our people in Edo, do it well to tell them who they are, like I had told you no inch of Ijaw land in will be ceded to Edo, either we are all in Niger Delta Republic or Izon Republic, better mind your territory.

Jerryherd:
Ijaw isn't a tribe or an ethnic group, it's a loose word used for coastal people around Nigerian coast

Ijaws are a tribe and not any way of identifying coastal people so you are saying Lagos is an Ijaw state then, ofcourse it is an Ijaw state

Amarabae:
Ijaws are not up to 7million,
You guys are not up to 1 million in Delta,
Around 2.5million in Bayelsa and 2million in Rivers,
There are no Ijaws in Ondo, Ondo is South West Yoruba land, Ijaw begins and ends in South South
Fly fly dearie

Ijaws are over 3 million in Bayelsa, Over 2 million In Delta, over 2 million in Rivers, over 1 million in Ondo, over 1 million in Edo, over 1 million in Lagos, and more

heniford2:
We deltans are not ijaw we have nothing to do with ijaw

Speak for yourself, Ijaws are majority in Delta and Rivers, then Bayelsa is a predominantly Ijaw state,

SlayerForever:
There is a saying that goes thus : foolishness makes one very bold.


On your own you calculated 6.5 million. And still in your conclusion you somehow jumped to 17 million. Are you normal at all?

I added 3 Ijaw state, giving the lowest possible figure, without including three other states where Ijaws are indigenous, namely Ondo, Lagos and Edo, still the Ijaws spread out of Nigeria, I gave a unrealistic overhead value and you should blame that on Nigeria's erroneous statistics which I don't trust, I have to first solidify our stand as the third ethnic group in Southern Nigeria, with factual evidence then we can go the rest on estimated values, note I only accounted for three states.

Nigerian statistics is obviously questionable but I don't think there is any challenge to the Ijaws on the position as the third largest Ethnicity in Southern Nigeria.

Many people cite not seeing much of Ijaw presence in other cities as a means of arguing that Ijaws are less populated, this assertion however is a complete fallacy as Ijaw is undeniably populous.

I will be backing up my claims with facts and common sense. You will not see Ijaws in major cities becuase of the traditional occupation of the Ijaws which is fishing and in places where we abound it is usually a cluster.

Ijaws are more likely to to be found in coastal areas and as such the Niger Delta interior had always been our native land.

Fact One: Bayelsa state is a predominately Ijaw State is over 2.5 Million while 2006 census puts it at 1.7 million I hope you know that despite the inaccuracy of Nigerian census we also grow.

2. Ijaws constitute the coastal areas of Rivers state which constitutes about 39% of Rivers putting Rivers state at approximately 6 million today that puts Ijaws in Rivers at over 2 million.

3. The Ijaws in Delta State: the population of Delta state shall be running at about another 6 million, let's say the Ijaws Chuns out another 2 million people over there.

This 3 states alone could arguably put Ijaws at about 6.5 million in just 3 states, tell me another tribe in Nigeria apart from Igbo, Hausa, Fulani and Yoruba coming anywhere close to the above verifiable data.

Then add the Ijaws in Edo State, with Ondo, with Lagos, there is no verifiable data in these Areas as these states especially Lagos and Ondo are trying too hard to Yorubanize the Ijaws in these areas.

Should a realistic census be conducted in Nigeria indicating tribes the Ijaws could be well over 17 million.

Why do you think the Ijaws inflate our population, when last did we hold crucial role in the census bureau, Goodluck Jonathan was not the president at 2006 when the last census was held rather it was the Ijaw hating Obasanjo so how could we have manipulated our data, be that as it may, there is also no proof of everyone else's actual population so Ijaws knows exactly how our population is distributed.

BKayy:

I was referring to both as separate entities.
Ijaw is neither more than Ibibio nor Efik.
Their major state Bayelsa is just like the desert region of the North. That is extremely sparsely populated

Then put the Ijaws in Rivers, Ondo, Delta, Bayelsa, Lagos, just for a start and tell me if you can actually pinpoint the exact population of the Ijaws, we have distinct state to start with and have decent population in others, Ibibio and Efik should naturally be in the ranks of Kanuri, Igala etc, Ijaw is in a class of her own

FreeIgbos:


You guys are obviously not serious. You don't know your boundaries and neither do you have any idea where your capital will be yet you're talking about forming a nation, are you kidding me?

Biafra already knows its boundaries and capital city, same with Oduduwa.

Remove Warri because it's largely owned by the Itshekiri with Ijaws and Uhrobos owning parts of the suburbs. Again, I doubt the Ishekiris will ever want to share a country with Ijaws talk more of its capital city, considering your violent relationship with them.

Your options are limited to Yenegoa and p.h.

Now you have shown that You are Yoruba, so why are you being partial with Itsekiri, the territory we own in Warri and the territory we own on PH which is more?, did I make mention of Citing our capital in the Istekiri part of Warri?, is there no Ijaw part in Warri, something you need to understand is that Warri will be more secured for a capital than PH, because PH borders a large area of population which will make influx of the Igbos eminent, but Ijaw part of Warri, once the boarders is certain then behind is Itsekiri and the Sea and it will be harder for Yorubas influx from the west as Yorubas rarely travel so like I had said all options are available most preferably Warri or Yanegoa, nobody said Itsekiri must join Niger Delta but capital of Niger Delta in PH is another serious intrusion from the Igbos.

FreeIgbos:


Word of advice: pick Yenagoa or P.H as your capital, map your boundary, even if it's not yet accurate now and others will take you serious. Otherwise, if you guys continue mouthing this ghost republic that has no reality on ground, when Nigeria finally breaks up which will definitely happen sooner than later (if you're a smart political observer you will already know this) then your worst fears will happen. Biafra and Oduduwa will end up snapping upmost of the ethnicities in the Niger Delta while you will be too confused at that point to do anything.

Carve your future now!

It is not in my power to chose the capital of Niger Delta and why would you advice me to choose PH when there are also other nationalities there, what I can tell you is that Warri, PH, Yenegoa are all potential capitals of Izon nation, at least in both PH and Yenegoa there is enough Izon part that can build a decent capital, that however is our internal affair.

FreeIgbos:


You guys are obviously not serious. You don't know your boundaries and neither do you have any idea where your capital will be yet you're talking about forming a nation, are you kidding me?

Biafra already knows its boundaries and capital city, same with Oduduwa.

Remove Warri because it's largely owned by the Itshekiri with Ijaws and Uhrobos owning parts of the suburbs. Again, I doubt the Ishekiris will ever want to share a country with Ijaws talk more of its capital city, considering your violent relationship with them.

Your options are limited to Yenegoa and p.h.

For a starter that small Ijaw part of Warri as you put it can be big enough for our capital that shouldn't be your business, just let us do our thing, we are not in a competition of who declared the capital first, just to let you and everyone know that Izon nation is prepared for any eventuality.

Family Affair

FreeIgbos:


I support your idea of Ijaw/Niger Delta rep. However, I will like to know where your capital will be situated, is it Yenagoa or P.H?

I can not tell you the capital until I'm certain the tribes of Niger Delta that is For Niger Delta Republic, the capital could as well be in Warri, Yenegoa, PH, anywhere there is Ijaw land, it can as well be in Ondo etc. That shouldn't bother you for now.

Omoluabi1stborn:


When has Yoruba forced you to Join Oduduwa?
Do we even resemble each other?
Talk less of culture or language?

Then stop forcing Oduduwa anthems on Izon nationals in South West, South West is not synonymous with Oduduwa

BKayy:
Please Mr OP explain this to me like I am a kid. When did Ijaw become more than Ibibio and Efik in anything?
Population wise or anything in general?

Ibibio and Efik is wrong both are not the same Ibibio is Ibibio, Efik is Efik, Nigerian Statistics is faulted but Ijaw has more states also

BlueSprint:
Niger Delta isn't an ijaw dream, but a dream of Niger Deltan nationalities. Na so una dey take start renewed tribal hatred.

I know what I'm saying you say Minorities in Niger Delta, all of Efik can be in Biafra or Niger Delta, all of Isoko can be in Biafra or Niger Delta but all of Ijaw can only be in Niger Delta, those minorities of Biger Delta you talk about all have options the Ijaws however have only Niger Delta as an acceptable solution, so don't make it seem like it is exactly the same situation for the Ijaws and other Niger Delta Tribes

If there is anything both the Yorubas and the Igbos have in common, it is their clear disapproval of the Niger Delta Republic but Niger DeltaRepublic is the brainchild of the Ijaws and older than both Biafra and Oduduwa and as such we MUST stand our ground.

There are three major tribe in Southern Nigeria, Igbo, Ijaw and Yoruba and anyone who thinks the Ijaws shall join their dream Biafra or Oduduwa Republic is only Dreaming, it is quite funny how the Igbos wish to have their heartland in one Republic of Biafra and the Yorubas have their heartland in one Republic of Oduduwa but selfishly attempt to break Izon Land into two by not assimilating all of Ijaw land either into Biafra or Oduduwa as such that only Niger Delta Republic or Izon/Ijaw Republic can solve the puzzle of putting all of Ijaw land into one Republic.

I might respect both Yorubas and Igbos but annexing Izon land into their Dream Republic is quite confrontational, the minority Ijaws in Western Nigeria is forced to use Oduduwa Anthem while Nigeria still exists and each time the Igbo side try to drag us into the Biafran struggle when we had made it clear even before the emergence of Biafra that Niger Delta Republic is our trademark.

No one should try to intimidate the Ijaw nation.

Nigeria as an entity had been quite a place when we are all subjugated enough that we forget who we are, as an Ijaw person however I do have my own priorities.

Ever since the discovery of Oil in Ijaw land, we had been made to face all forms of dehumanization as a people, I keep saying it anytime I get the opportunity to prepare my own people for a possible post Nigeria, post oil or just prepare for the Future.

I must say that as Ijaw people we have to be wise on our body languages and I'm happy with the manner our elders had handled things lately, making sure that the relationship between our neighnours are reinstated especially our relationship with the Igbos.

The Igbos are one of our closest kin in Nigeria and they will most likely offer a better relationship for us, as surprising as it might seem, we either chose the Igbos or the Yorubas but on personal observation, working with the Igbos will offer us better advantages like I had always maintained.

The Igbos although not landlocked has limited sea access compared to their production capacity, as a manufacturing and trade region, the Igbo people have better capacity to give us a more diplomatic advantage.

All options remains on the table, but we need to step up as Ijaw people, if well managed, Izon has every thing needed to be a great Mordern country or even as a part of Nigeria.

We have abundant Hydrocarbons, Abundant sea access, arable lands and more, why then can't we prosper as a people, before this whole Nigerian stuff we had been the great Ijaw people, who was the undisputed leader of the coast, our Neighbours of Igbo people and others did bring their palm from the hinterland which lead to the rise of the then mighty city of Bonny and even Opobo, We have great advantages as Ijaw people to turn our privileges to wealth but that will be mostly fast and possible when we are strategic.

Juliusmalema:


He is the one. I know well that time just that I ignored him so as not to deviate the thread at that time....more reason I left the thread early before I get upset and burst the identity.


I detest such rubbish they do so much. It shows so much of inferiority complex and desperation.

All their formats here are cheap and full of Propaganda and desperation.

Lol,

Well come back AlexBells, one of the realest Igbo out there.

Who loves Niger Delta Oil but hates Niger Delta People...Nigeria

Graysons:
Bobo juice. Mind ur business baysela man,allow the Okrikans to speak for themselves, you can't even develop baysela but you want to add others into ur miseries?
What a joke.

If we can't even be together as Ijaws, why then do we dream of even country where we hope to excel with others when we have not even accepted our closest kin, lol, this Nigeria is saving a lot of lives oo, Omo. We have not developed Beyalsa I will not reply on that, see matter ooo, I didn't even see this coming abeg, Nigeria should remain the way it is oo, From the way I'm seeing it, no tribe is truly assimilated now becuase even some local government will break into many countries oo

stebell:



The beef with our Igbo brother sterns from the fact that they want us to join them without knowing anything about the alliance just like Nigeria.

If they can't bring the different tribes together for a discuss, I don't see any future with such alliance.

Igbos are good people, they are doing great in every facet of life but the urge to drag us into what we don't know is what we are resisting.

Have you not seen a greater majority of Igbos even in this forum complaining that they are being lumped with others under Biafra, majority of Igbos feel same way that they are being dragged into something they don't understand

Graysons:


I see how your people abuse patience Jonathan, infact most of your people refuse to vote for Jonathan because of his wife. Or you think I don't know?

You are confusing yourself, the said woman is the wife of Goodluck Jonthan, Jonarhan is still married to as we speak, like I said the only dislike is the one in your head

Graysons:
Baysela people don't even like Okrika people to begin with.

The only dislike is the one in your head