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When U add inept leadership to the fact that we are own enemies, that's what U get. That envoy knows not what he was saying. Check out http://www.naij.com/322013-why-usa-refused-to-assist-nigeria-with-boko-haram.html

Whatever happens to developing our own. Anyone who takes that seat with no focus on development is a joke and a joker. People are in a hurry to get instant rewards and credit with little thought to the future...smh

Dem never finish nii? Na so dem plenty reach? Wahala dey o. Kudos to our men sha

Na today? Agencies of govt paving way for GEJ since 1999 by silencing more eligible more competent and scrupulous contestants. Last time it was EFCC. Now na NPF

Ekundayo7: Tagged by Macof

What was the last book you read?
The True Story of Grace O'Malley
IRELAND'S PIRATE QUEEN

2)How Old will you be at your next birthday?
Old enough to know something of life, smart enough to know I have much more to learn

3) What do you love more than anything
The Yoruba, God Esu Ifa and all orisa

4)What is your song of the week
no song, just the one inside my head lol

5)Do you still watch cartoons?
No

6)Have you ever gotten into a fight?
Yes, but only because they asked I learn them well well....

7)Favourite food?
eba and egusi, pounded yam, akara in palm oil

Are you lazy?
If I feel so

9)Are you afraid of heights
No

10)Zodiac sign:
Virgin

11) Favorite thing ever:
working with Ifa to help others, sunrise at the beach in the water,

12) Can you die for anyone?
The Yoruba people and land

13)Ever been in love?
I love all good people, the ones who plot evil and do evil, no

14)Do you miss anyone right now
Yes

15)Who was the last person to call you?
can't remember

16)Last crush?
lol I still have crush on Marta "a fenomena"

17)If you could have one super power what would it be?
"To destroy all the foreign religions in Africa" Macof, I agree but add to also bring better knowledge, acceptance and understanding between Christian Muslim and traditional believer and to also do away with human greed, hey, it is a super power wish.

18)What’s the most important thing you look for in a significant other
Ability to speak the truth and not lie, to themself or other person, to be looking at life with spiritual eyes balanced with a good material head

19)can you go bungee jumping?
Never, I appreciate my intact body

20)most stressful thing you've ever done
don't know, many things can be stressful. Maybe going through customs with items they might be interested in

ummm I don't know anyone here so just pulled you from thread to keep going
@ Echarlz

Thanks. Hilarious though. Have a great week

The first time pastor Ayo's jet was caught money-laundering and gun-running may not be the first time it was being used for such

Many people are alive because it is illegal to shoot them. Smh for my country

Good luck lad and thanks for giving 9ja fans something to cheer about in EPL. The sky is Ur starting point

Ondo State governor, Dr Rahman Olusegun Mimiko ended several months of speculation as he openly declared for the ruling People's Democratic Party thereby leaving the Labour Party with no sitting governor in the country. The declaration on Friday also adds to the wave of defections and dramas leading to the 2015 general elections

Who's says GEJ is clueless? SMH for 9ja

Sauce: http:///RfeeU7Yx0M

Either because there are too many contenders for the NOK title or there's none

karidad: How many doctors attended to this said Patrick Sawyer of a devil? Is it because he is a foreigner? because I bet an ordinary Nigerian ll nt receive dis kinda treatment frm our medical practitioners. RIP to d decreased.

So, so, so disheartening? What kinda country is this?
Not even the loss of a bright mind who first made the diagnosis of a disease heralding an epidemic could curb some people's hatred for her profession. Knowing the risks involved, she still led others to care for the Liberian. Heroes and heroines like her are not celebrated in 9ja...SMH
Adieu Dr Stella Adadevoh...may Ur brave soul RIP

sammieguze: Not everybody has the resources bro

Even beyond having the resources, regulations guiding residency appointment and training forbid running private practice. Plus residency training and service take all your time leaving little time for other aspects of life. Nigerians know the truth but morbid hatred won't let them face it. There are more private clinics owned by non-physicians than are by physicians in Nigeria

sammieguze: My opinion... Their joblessness over the time is really getting at them.


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Joblessness,,..? Thought they have been busy in their private clinics where they divert patients, even when they were not on strike. Smh

One true Nigerian with no envy or hatred for docs be like...." Whereas GEJ is the one Nigerians are supposed to give sack letter"
This country is full of ironies...smh

youngmonie: Do you know that healthcare is one of the most expensive services in the world? if it was that easy to privatise do you think countries lik the UK would have the NHS ( which is one one of if not the best healthcare system in the world)

It is interesting how we are quick to compare our country to the UK and the US without regard to our historical, cultural, political and socio-economic peculiarities. There are even less advanced countries with flourishing health systems. How do the likes of India, Malaysia and S. Africa run theirs? In none of these countries do we have the culture of impunity and lawlessness that pervades every aspect of our national life but is more dangerously manifest in federal hospitals.
You are likely to accept privatisation as a solution if U understand the root cause and the motive behind the unending crisis in the health sector. You should also be ready to accept that govt alone cannot bear the cost because it is expensive to run

apasico: That is the best thing to do, this Doctors are holding us to ransom too much, killing innocent citizens. They all have their private hospitals and clinics where they devote more of their time.

Doctors are not suppose to go on strike, the court or National Assembly would have been an option.

Please FG do this move as fast as possible, in fact tomorrow will be fine.

I agree with U. God bless U. Privatisation is the solution. Then it will be clear who is holding the country to ransom. It isn't only doctors that shouldn't be going on strike both in the hospitals and outta it. Every worker is indispensible. Everyone and anyone should be allowed to own private clinics as well. U can apoint whoever U wish as head/CEO or apppoint the number of consultants and directors U feel U need. Everyone will work and justify his earnings. There won't be room for rivalry. It is the answer!

PRIVATISATION is it! God bless the Elumelu committee. Banning professional associations and unions can't be readily pushed far. Privatisation will sanitise Nigeria's health care system,remove the anarchy and unending chaos among hospital workers and allow more focus and respect for patient care. Truth is, a lot of in-fighting and rivalry have led to low productivity and poor patient satisfaction. Many workers on FG's payroll today have no business being there. Health indices will improve and more jobs will be created. Government should just regulate and ensure high standards, provide 100% health insurance coverage for Nigerians and protect workers' interests with the necessary laws. Enough of this nonsense o jare

MisterLongman: Lagbaja Allegedly Declines to Perform At Iyiola Omisore’s Campaign Rally

Masked musician, Lagbaja, is alleged to have turned down an offer from the Iyiola Omisore Campaign Organization to perform at the grand campaign rally and reception for President Goodluck Jonathan coming up in Osogbo next month. Lagbaja was reported to have declined to perform at the rally because, he was convinced that Senator Iyiola a Omisore, the PDP gubernatorial candidate in the Osun State election was culpable in the death of his mentor and benefactor, Chief Bola Ige. 

Lagbaja was quoted to have said “Though the court of the land discharged and acquainted you in the murder case against the Former Minister of Justice in Nigeria, The Late Cicero of Esa – Oke and Foremost Nationalist; Chief Bola Ige, I have deep rooted innermost conviction that you are culpable in the death of my mentor and benefactor, if you offer me all the allocation of Osun State during your four-year tenure par-adventure you win (which I seriously doubt), I will not perform for Iyiola Omisore Governorship Campaign Rally” 

http://www.societygists.com/lagbaja-allegedly-declines-to-perform-at-iyiola-omisores-campaign-rally/

The evil that men do lives after them. Yet we won't learn. Killings still going on in Osun...

Drogba just announced on his instagram page that he's back at Stamford Bridge. Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho revealed recently that he wanted Drogba back, and he's made it happen
"We want to win matches and win titles and Didier is one of the best strikers in Europe. He is still very adapted to the needs of the Premier League and we are thinking about it in a non-emotional way. If I bring him back, and the decision has to be made soon, it is because as a player he has qualities to make the team stronger. The team is not about the eleven. It is about the different options and as an option I would not say no about the possibility.’ Mourinho said.

SAUCE; http:///ozdnHmY9ta

Should we say congrats to the legendary Ivorien? He and his countrymen were not particularly fantastic in Brazil though they have consistently under-achieved for the mational team. Wishing him success in his second spell on the bridge.

evanscheck: And the point is dat he is not a pharmacist,so he cud nt have held that post. But he was allowed and no strike action was embarked

The DG was not even known in Nigeria medical circles. NMA didn't know how he was appointed by late president Yar'adua. NMA didn't have to pull down PSN or any professional group or person for that matter before the DG was appointed. Prior to then, were there doctors manning any of the directorates of NAFDAC? And even till now. Again, med doctors are no irrational people and will not sacrifice merit on the altar of some mean professional rivalry. I insist, if PSN had not gone into this alliance under johesu, and a pharmacist or any professional in the health team proves his capability, there wouldn't have been any need for this crisis.

Bastian Schweinsteiger! He was in superlative form and key to their success... SE need a hardworker like him

Bastian Schweinsteiger!

adeoladrg: Okay, I graduate from a pharmacy school, undergo the compulsory internship and NYSC. Then I got a job in a teaching hospital. While at that, I applied to the West African Postgraduate College of Pharmacy for a specialty in say Paediatrics or CVD. I spend 6 years undergoing the process and graduate from the college.

I noticed you medical doctors are emphasizing the nursing home thing, that's misplaced thinking. The advent of consultant pharmacy started in nursing home, yes! But the roles of consultant pharmacists have since expanded.

You said this urself:

Consultant Pharmacists are now practicing in a
wide variety of other settings, including subacute
care and assisted living facilities, psychiatric
hospitals, hospice programs, and in home and
community-based care --

Go to YouTube and see what obtains, and let me clear another misconception you guys have held on tightly to.

Been a consultant pharmacist doesn't destroy the doctor-patient link. The doctor everywhere is the owner of the patient, as u like to say it. It only makes pharmacist more knowledgeable and be a force in his specialty. Never have I seen or heard that a consultant pharmacist changed a prescription, never! It's not allowed. You guys never even bothered to ask what the synergistic effect takes place. The practice is to confer recommendations on the prescription(myt be change in dose or suggest a more effective drug or delete an unnecessary drug, or correct drug interactions, suggest alternative therapy and lot of other things) with good reason and document the intervention. I tell you what? A doctor must therefore be cocksure of his prescription b4 the pharmacist comes to scrutinize. Those documented interventions are even more dangerous for the arrogant doctors cos if anything worse happens to the patient and the consultant pharmacist decides to publish his recommendation that wasn't taken by the doctor, he could lose his job or even his license.sss

Meanwhile, it's feel different when a doctor seeks an opinion from a consultant pharmacist, other than an ordinary pharmacist who just dispenses.

That's the reality of things. Our doctors want to boss everything, now tell me how this is unnecessary and won't help patient care.

Thanks for your contributions. I don't agree docs are irrational human beings like the world is being made to believe. Most will not refuse quality advice and input to patient care. Even now, I call pharmacist for advice and information but what I get in return is appalling so I've learnt to stop. What obtains in most centres today is health professionals working at cross purposes. There is so much antagonism in the care delivery process with every category in a hurry to assert their superiority. I do not have problems with any one being tagged a consultant in as much as the system requires his/her services but with only ADVISORY roles. This will prevent duplication and/or conflict of roles. The doctors should take responsibility for patient care. Anyone may refuse to get or accept advice to his own peril.
I think the fundamental problem with the JOHESU agitation is in the gang up against doctors and their quest to pull them down to get their demands met. That probably explains NMA's opposition to some of the requests. Doctors won't reasonably stop anyone from progressing, getting to the peak or acquiring more knowledge through the right channels. I will be glad to work with you with your postgraduate fellowship of 6years as a pharmacist once it is for the good of my patient and of course myself. Lol

waterhouse071: The lasting solution to the incessant tussle between doctors and other health workers will be the privatisation of the health sector in nigeria and financial empowerment of nigerians by NHIS, so that citizens are going to be capable of paying their health bills in the private hospitals. When this happens, the hospital owners( for example Dangote or Wale Adenuga not the government owning the teaching hospitals and tertiary medical centers) will know what to do so as to efficiently run the organisation. Then all hospital activities will be patient oriented. So, consultant cardiothoracic surgeon or endocrinologist will not have to fight the laboratory technichians, nurses or cleaners for anything because all health practitioners will know their respective importance in hospital which will adequately be compensated accordingly. Those that sacrifice their life to spend 6+X year as medical students and several years as resident doctors to become consultants will not have to go on strike because nurses feel doctors' salaries are too much. Then doctors will be happy to render their services and save lives. The hospital owners will also realise that the role of nurses, pharmacists, laboratory technicians who call themselves by various titles such as matrons, CNO are different from doctors, and that various fields have their limitations. GOD bless Nigeria

Thanks again. Some of us have been saying this for more than 2 years now since the health sector crisis took a dangerous dimension. I still can't understand why people are afraid of embracing privatisation. That is all we need. Back it by appropriate legislation and enforcement, we are there. The health systems in the countries people keep citing have enabling laws that won't allow people feed fat on the system and with minimal govt involvement. Each country and even each state should develop health care model that best suits it.

einsteino: I agree that doctors could be such a proud fool, inshort my aunt who was a nurse once came back home vexed that a young resident doctor insulted her. at the time she was due to retire in a year's time, imagine that. well it was easy dealing with the manner-less resident cos her daughter was a consultant doctor in the same hospital...lol

well to answer the bolded, i think i finally understand where the problem lies. it appears you guys are not thought the organogram of your industry in school. you know the first time my friend who was a student of architecture told me they are our team leaders in building projects, i was like wtf! how can that be? architecture was a branch of civil engr, we even are taught architectural design... blah blah. then finally in one of our courses we were thought the organogram of our industry, down to our history and found out why it had to be so.

now if am in an offshore facility, am nothing more than a service engr, someone who builds and maintains whatever the pet engrs and d rest needs. i cant lead their team but i am part of that team, although i would be allowed to head my dept, inshort a pet engr cant head my dept.. although u never would find him looking down on me, i dunno y sha.. engrs always seem to bond very well, u will hardly find an engr fighting over who is more important. as a matter of fact most of my friends who are mech engrs, pose as civil engrs and i even happily help em when they consult me(osho free consultation in most cases o! just d same way they gave me free soakis in sch..lol). maybe cos in engr teamwork is so stressed upon, cos failure to work as a team could result in loss of billions (u know people care more about money than human lives..lol)

Now if i happen to be in an oil servicing firm, he would have to succumb to me. it is more or less, this is my field so its best for the team if i lead cos am d most knowledgeable here, then when am in urs its best i listen to u .

the problem with the health care is that other professions like nurses dont seem to have their own field where they lead, it appears u always have to say yes to the doctor. Actually it isn't supposed to be a problem cos the nightingale nurses started out with the sole purpose of assisting the doctors. funny enuf they bonded so well that doctors ended up marrying their nurses.
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I've followed with great interest your contributions to this debate. I admire your fairness and brilliant grasp of the issues despite being an engr. Needless to say, too much lies have been fed to the Nigerian public esp on the issue of emoluments. For instance, no resident doctor's salary can be compared with that of Registered nurse/registered midwife of 20 years experience. Such categories of nurses earn same with medical consultants even without a B.NSc. I respect nurses a lot because they make far greater input to patient care than many of those who claim to know and do better than med docs. What these people will not tell you is doctors never made a demand for pay rise ab initio. But if other health workers get gradfe levels skipped and automatic pay rise, doctors too shouldn't be stagnant. But beyond all this, let us embrace PRIVATISATION. It will solve the many hydra-headed problems in the health sector. Every category of health worker will take their rightful places, justify their earnings and allow people rise based on merit, experience and input to patient care- the centre-point of our callings. There will be no more threats of strike actions for a people's unending agitation for undeserved allowances or punishing an erring worker, including the now famed arrogance of med docs!

casket: I love your spirit and optimism but you and I know how reliable and trustworthy our government is !

Thanks brother. It should be backed by appropriate legislation. Attorneys can turn to it to get relief for aggrieved patients in the courts. And ALL consultants are liable in that regard. No one will tell you this about the US system. There, no one wants to wear the crown because uneasy lies on it. PRIVATISATION is the answer! It puts every category of healthcare worker in its rightful place and makes all more responsible. No one feeds fat or cheats on such systems by agitating for and getting undeserved allowances and wages. Your job is your job,../whatever it is you are trained to do. You feel too big or too important, you are fired. As simple as A, B, C.
To be honest, I do not care who is labelled a consultant or how many directors govt wishes to appoint in each of the centres or who becomes health minister. i am concerned about the consequences of all these for patient care. I am concerned about the anarchy that has long existed in the system and the dimension the lawlessness will assume. I am concerned about those who want uniform wages for all categories despite that our inputs to patient care differ. I am concerned about the chain reactions that will follow the dissolution of the amalgam once the gang-up against doctors is over. After giving much thought to this, I am convinced privatisation is the only way out. Govt may come back after years to re-invest and make money because I can assure you, it will not only work, it will boom.
God bless

casket: Gbam !
I am rightly behind you brother......that's just the way forward out of this present mess .
The only challenge is how common man on the street would be able to afford quality health care service if health sector is privatised .
I have lost count of how much I assisted indigent patients as a medical student, house officer, medical officer and even registrar financially !

No need to worry. We do that everyday but I realise it is one of the reasons for the hatred- that we are able to contribute for indigent patients. The burden of paying salaries, procuring drugs and equipment, building and maintaining structures will be taken off FG. So FG should be able to use the money saved and proceeds from sale of federal hospitals to provide health insurance for everyone as part of its social service responsibility to her citizens

PerfectFortune: The OP may claim not to be bias in his judgment but in my opinion, he is very bias.

To begin with, I don't think ppl hate Drs cos it's a title anyway but the attitude of the holder of the title. For your information, majority of the ppl don't like Nurses either part of the reason which has been stressed out already by the OP but they seldom disturb us Strike actions and selfish demands.

I am not saying there are no competent health care providers in the country, it won't be fear on them but the majority of them are incompetent.

I can safely say 70 percent of the so called Drs are incompetent but they want to be treated as gods.

Majority of the Drs working at various govt owned hospitals also work elsewhere either at their own private hospitals or get a job with a private hospital all to the deteriment of the poor masses who frequent the govt owned hospitals.

In most govt owned hospitals, you hardly find a Dr that practise the true essence of the profession but those that are arrogant, selfish and complete cheats.

Take the FMC ebute metta for instance, patients rush to the hospital as early as 5.30/6am to pick nos so they can attended to and return home early enf as it is not like anybody likes going to the hospital anyway but the Drs stroll in around 9.30/10am with no apology the long waiting anxious patients (since they beliv they shld be worshipd) and by 1pm they stop consultation till the next day leaving for their various private hospitals.

If I should start talking about their level of incompetence, the whole page will not contain it as there are even on several occassions where they are corrected by Nurses (on medication prescriptns).

In simple terms, ppl don't hate Drs but the attitude of the holder of the title. They are arrogant, selfish, incompetent, cheats and the big bang, "Killers" going on strike to divert patients to their private hospitals.

I will keep saying it, herbalists are better than most Nigerian Drs..

FG, JOHESU and indeed all hate-filled Nigerians who feel doctors' demands are greedy, arrogant and misplaced have a very easy way out of this problem... PRIVATISATION. Simple. Let government privatise all the services in federal hospitals to start with. Medical doctors, nurses, pharmacists, optometrists, lab scientists/tech, engineers, accountants everybody should work and justify their earnings. It will be clearer who are greedy. I am a medical doctor and I have had the privilege of working at all levels of care- primary, secondary and tertiary and in both private and public hospitals. I haven't seen it all but I appreciate the difference and know what good service delivery and client satisfaction mean. And I can say that the easy generalisation is one way of misinforming the public and gaining undeserved sympathy. But I hate to be involved in needless online debates. Let us take the hard step of leaving govt out of running health care. Infact there will be moire jobs at the end of the day. The economy will also grow because medical tourism will reduce and phone consultations, unauthorised prescriptions and illegal health facilities will be abolished. Lets copy the US health systems wholly.
The money FG will save from the privatisation should go into providing insurance coverage for Nigerians depending on their employment status and vulnerability. Who is afraid of 100% health insurance coverage for Nigerians as stated in the doctors' demands?
Govt should please take this measure. it may be difficult at the initial stage but the whole country and her citizens will be better for it. Let anyone also be able to open and run hospitals and place whichever category of health professional to head them.

No need for debates pls. That will only waste more time and more lives. FG, NMA, ARD, JOHESU and indeed all hate-filled Nigerian masses who feel doctors' demands are greedy, arrogant and misplaced have a very easy way out of this problem... PRIVATISATION. Simple. Let government privatise all the services in federal hospitals to start with. Medical doctors, nurses, pharmacists, optometrists, lab scientists/tech, engineers, accountants everybody should work and justify their earnings. It will be clearer who are greedy. I am a medical doctor and I have had the privilege of working at all levels of care- primary, secondary and tertiary and in both private and public hospitals. I haven't seen it all but I appreciate the difference and know what good service delivery and client satisfaction mean.
The money FG will save from the privatisation should go into providing insurance coverage for Nigerians depending on their employment status and vulnerability. Who is afraid of 100% health insurance coverage for Nigerians as stated in the doctors' demands?
Govt should please take this measure. it may be difficult at the initial stage but the whole country and her citizens will be better for it. Let anyone also be able to open and run hospitals and place whichever category of health professional to head it.

Morotov1: What exactly do you want him to say except exulting his profession and undermining yours, it is an age long tactics.
All of a sudden graduates are debating why my career and profession is better than yours with these few points of mine nonsense........I am sorry but this is shameful, hilarious and at the same unfathomable to say the least.
CONCERNED CITIZEN.

All U guys need do is point out the lies in his write-up. I think everyone deserves to be heard without resort to insults

benjichuks: FRONT PAGES PLEASE!

Please Sir NMA needs people like you to educate the public on the real issues in the health sector!
I recommend Chief, that this lovely piece of genius writeup be published in the national dailies... It will go a real long way!

Mods, when is this getting to the front page? Nigerians have been misinformed for far too long. And falsehood heard over and over soon is perceived as the truth. @OP, have U heeded NLs on the newspaper publication of your brilliant piece? I can assure you that, even johesu-bought platforms will find it publishable. God bless Ur bright soul

Olucheye: Who Offers An Pompous, Egoistic Man Like Keshi Another Tenure To Run Our Team, When there are other men we could hire, and get the job done perfectly without being Silly and Noisy about it.

No Matter how highly placed you are as a man, if you can't stand criticisms, then you are not worthy of leading any team.
Keshi who's ego almost pushed him to drop Osaze from the National team to represent in Nigeria at Brazil, same who eventually turned our savior.

Keshi can't stand being corrected or spoken to even when he hasn't won the World Cup, not to talk of winning the nations cup back to back. HELL NO to him being Nigeria's Coach again. He should go to South Africa where he's been wanting to go and let''s see what becomes of the proud idiat.

I often wonder what's wrong with us as a people... We don't insult white coaches the way we do our own. Most of Nigerians criticisms of the SE and Keshi are driven by sentiments, destructive and distracting. I have never seen a perfect team selection. And with his selections, he has set new records for indigenous coaches in Africa and made a strong case for them. Yes, he has reasons to proud and/or many things to be proud of. In saner climes, he will be a celeberated national figure and living legend.