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Rockyrascal:
little wonder Bayern dropped their interest for him.

No one has hyped Onyekuru like I've done on this thread, but truth be told national team call-up is based on league ranking and competitiveness.

The turkish and Belgian leagues are average leagues.

Onyekuru should move for one of Europe's top 5 league to prove himself.

andrew444:
Bayern never wanted him at first ,make una stop to dey believe all those naija sport news ,na same naija site carry chukwueze market value to 40millon

No Nigeria player is Bayern standard

You are now pulling down Naija players.Hahaha.

Earthquake1:
Clueless Puel, plays 3 defensive midfielders against Everton

The same clueless man who beat Chelsea at home and Man City away from home.

Abeg make we take am easy.

andrew444:
Lol stop messing around

I said Winfred zaha has never scored 10 Epl goals and he is regarded as a great winger and onyekuru is a goal scoring winger and you guys are calling him overrated

Now tell me how did I compare them ? Did I say onyekuru is better than him or he is better than onyekuru?

When you guys have nothing to backup your arguement you will change the topic ,first it was turkey league and Belgium now it was onyekuru and Winfred zaha ,so I should not make example abi ? So making an example means I am comparing them ?

Smh for you

U mentioned him along with Onyekuru and included the goals each of them scored last season.
Is that not comparison? U compared them forgetting they play in different leagues.

I apologise if I have offended you.I will stop here.

andrew444:
Chukwueze is doing well in laliga no doubt but how does that concern onyekuru ? Is onyekuru in laliga ? Did he get any offer from laliga and he refuse to go there ? Think before you talk man don't just open your mouth and talk just because you wanna bring someone down

Rohr has his choice okay ,you are talking about Moses Simon that cannot make levante team ? Lol

Moses Simon is a levante bench warmer and he is ahead of onyekuru right ? That's says a lot

Coaches and their choice

Aymeric Laporte didn't make the French World Cup team because of the coach choice and not because he wasn't good enough ,the world knows he is a better player than kimpembe

I have read your words and I think you are a troll,continue trolling okay seems you derive joy there

No be the same you talk say I dey rate Chukwueze ahead of Onyekuru so I had to explain.

For him not to have offers from there means they don't rate him.

It's not just Rohr's choice but the level or competitive nature of their leagues.

andrew444:
And where did I compare ? Stop going of point

U compared Onyekuru with Wilfred Zaha which is football blasphemy.

andrew444:
I don tell them tire say the guy na winger

He even scored more than 20 goals a season when playing for eupen from the wings

Winfred zaha who people see as a good winger has never scored 10 Epl goals a season

The same onyekuru played 19 games last season and scored 9 goals due to injury

It's football blasphemy to compare the Belgian or Turkish league with the EPL.

andrew444:
Onyekuru hasn't play well for the eagles doesn't mean he is overrated ,you really don't know what you are saying and you are just making jest of your self .

You dare to mention chukwueze and kalu where balling well against Uganda defenders ,I never knew uganda is now a top footballing nation and Sergio Ramos and van dijk now plays for them

Why didn't chukwueze and kalu score against those Uganda defenders ?

So chukwueze is not overrated? Even thou the boy is good .some people have already rated him 40 million euros and you didn't see that as overrated ? Someone who is yet to play 20 career games

But onyekuru is not even rated such amount and you say he is overrated,he keeps on scoring goals for the past 3 seasons and you say he is overrated? Are you this clueless ?

Now you wanna use champions league to judge him ? As if his club is playing well in the champions league

For your information Luis Suarez is yet to score in the champions league since Barca 6-1 win against psg

You are just an hater who hate the truth or you are clueless .

Chukwueze is doing his thing in the Spanish LA liga, the best league in the world while Onyekuru is in Turkey.

Chukwueze has scored in the Europa league.

Athletico and Arsenal are interested in Chukwueze but Bayern have already pulled out of signing Onyekuru.

Rohr is also a hater like I am for listing Kalu,Musa,Chukwueze and Simon as his wingers without mentioning Onyekuru.

A player is rated according to the league in which he plays.

If we are to look at it your way Junior Lokosa(Lobi stars) will have more suitors than Junior Ajayi(Al Ahly) which is impossible.

andrew444:
So 3 games is now 5 games ?

He didn't make the bench on 2 occasions So it's now 5 occasions?

Hope you know vardy and demerai gray start some games from the bench most times ?

You guys can't even defend your self

Do you know what it means to say a player is a regular?

In their last 5 games, how many did he start?

If you call a bench-warmer a regular, what will you call a starter?

darkelf:
What is the total number of goals and assist for iwobi so far this season?

Why is it that Emery keeps starting him?

andrew444:
He is not a regular and has started more than 10 games in the EPL...Smh for you

So because he was not on the bench means he is not a regular?

Anyway wes morgan didnt make the bench so does that make him also a bench warmer?

Hope you are not bringing your hate to 2019 ?

I am starting to believe you earn a living to hate a player

Change your ways

Happy new year to you

No one is trying to bring any player down.

Iheanacho was a regular in the beginning of the season but not now since 5 games have been played since then with him getting only 30mins in total.

Embrace the truth, but remember in football you are as good as your last game.

andrew444:
Bros you dey mind them? If i tag them hater dem go talk, many of them even see me as being sentimental because i will never agree with them

Look at one trying to pull victor moses down as if i even call moses a world class player,I am not a victor moses fan and some others eagles player that does not mean i will not speak the truth

Even one said onyekuru is overrated, someone that is playing in turkey on loan and the fee being paid by everton to buy him was just 7 million euros and someone open his mouth to say the guy is overated?

Some people need to use google to read meaning and understand them.

Happy New year to you, wish you the best

Everything depends on how you look at it.

Some will tell you that the Turkish and Chinese leagues is for retirees considering the fact that Robinho,Eto o and some old players are still active there.

Onyekuru has also not proven critics wrong since he has featured in 8 champions league games without a goal or assist to his name.

The few times he came on as a sub during the AFCON qualifiers, he wasn't even impressive considering the weak(African) opponents he was facing.

Chukwueze and Kalu were balling against well organized Ugandan defenders in Asaba while Onyekuru couldn't make any impact.

He failed in his debut game against Corsica.

His only good game being in the testimonial match against Liberia where the Liberians were 2 man down considering the fact that Weah and one of his compatriot featured in that game.

Onyekuru has to move to prove himself in one of Europe's top 5 leagues.

He is not even in Rohr's plan at the moment as a winger.

Curtisaxel7:
Iwobi is similar to Iheanacho in the sense that both of them have NO DEFINED NATURAL POSITION.

Iheanacho lacks the basic ball control which is imperative for an AM/SS. He also lacks the ability to beat defenders with his very poor dribbling abilities and low attacking instinct, and lacks physicality to hold up play so he is not a natural CF. So what is his natural position?.

Iwobi claims to be a natural AM, but apart from his eye for the final pass which he shows occasionally, he has no other attribute of a modern number 10. He can't control the game's tempo, hardly makes accurate vertical long passes, can't hit good shots at goal from range, his dribbling which endeared him to our hearts is fast disappearing, physicality nko? Zero.

So my brother, Iwobi is like Nacho. Jack of all wings, master of none.

I think you are wrong here.

When we played England prior to the WC Iwobi played very well as a RW and even got a goal.He was very creative and the only creative Super Eagle in a match where Regulars Moses and Mikel were anonymous, with Onazi poor.

Iwobi is class.He just needs a decent DMF/ball holder to play behind him.

Curtisaxel7:
Things are indeed looking bad for our Alex.

I watch Cengiz regularly at Roma. If that dude signs up for Arsenal and it gets to a direct competition between him and Iwobi, Iwobi may as well go on loan. And if Nelson returns from loan too, Iheanacho's condition will be better than Iwobi's.

Sad but true.

Una been talk say Emery go sell am on arrival.

Emery come trust am more than wenger.

Which Reis Nelson? Which Cengiz?They will still come and Iwobi will keep them on the bench.

The EPL is not the Serie A or Bundesliga.
A bench-warming lookman left Everton to Dortmund and was scoring goals for fun.

Curtisaxel7:
We tend to overlook Iwobi's shortcomings more than Nacho's. Maybe because Iwobi is FB, maybe because he is Okocha's cousin, maybe because he is supposed to be the team's "poster boy".

But to be brutally honest with ourselves, dude is quite average too.

It's horrifying really.

2 assists against Liverpool home and away and a goal against Chelsea at home this season tells of his quality.

Which other Super Eagles player has scored or assisted against a top 6 team in the EPL?

darkelf:
Oga, iwobi has already become nacho. Compare their stats make you see.

Our National team will fail at AFCON if these gys keep on like this

Iwobi is different from Nacho.

He is our current no.10 and has clocked more minutes under Emery than Wenger.He even had an assist in their last game and was a major threat going forward for his team.He even scored in their last 2 or 3 games where Ozil assisted him.

How is he similar to Nacho who have only clocked few minutes in his teams last 3 games?When last did Nacho score or assist?

andrew444:
Its musa that played 21 games and score 2 goals and not Moses

Maddison has played from the flank this season for more than 5 times

How do you know Moses is no more good as a winger ? It's been long he played there so you can't know or are you God ?

The last time I checked Richarlison of Everton played 38 Epl games last season as a winger and scored only 5 goals and end up getting a move to Everton at 40million is that not also poor ?

If musa play 38 games you Think he won't get more than 5 goals ?

If you are suggesting on something bring proove

The last time I check world class hazard according to Chelsea fans haven't score 20goals a season and some dumb Chelsea fans says he is better than Neymar seems it's all about goals and assists

Am aware you are talking of Musa not Moses.

Moses was anonymous against England, made no impact against Czech, was poor against Croatia.

I will start Chukwueze ahead of both Moses and Kalu any time, any day.

We would have progressed from the group stages if we started with a 3-5-2 with Ebuehi and Moses as RWB and LWB respectively.

Hazard is not only world-class but a game changer.In their first 2 matches this season he came off from the bench to provide an assist in each of the match which earned him the RW.

Football is all about end-product.

How many assists did Richarlison have last season? You only talk of goals.

Samuel Kalu is now competing with Chukwueze for the RW.Do you think he will be able to keep Chukwueze or Onyekuru on the bench for a long time?

andrew444:
Agreed with some of what you said

But Moses shine as a winger on the Epl at Wigan ?

You are quick to forget that

Bros as far as wingers are concerned Moses is a better player than Maddison

Musa didn't failed at Leicester musa wasn't in Craig Shakespeare plans ,musa played 21 games in the Epl under ranieri and scored 2 goals which is not bad for a winger

You said victor moses is only good as a winger against African opposition,I guess he was playing for lobi stars in the caf champions league when Chelsea scouted him ? You are so funny


Chelsea bought a player from relegated threatened Wigan sha a lot

Why bringing the Iceland game here ? What did nacho played on the Iceland game ? Smh for you

Madison is more creative than Moses.They don't play the same position while one is an AM, the other is a WB.

2 goals in 21 games is poor if he doesn't have up to 8 assists.

Players metarmophose with time.Moses was good as a winger then but not now.

Moses can't get playing time as a winger for 6 straight game for any of the top 8 EPL team.

Why do you think we played Mikel as 4 and Moses as RWB when we needed a win against Iceland?

andrew444:
Did I tell you Moses is kicking the ball ?

Lol ,you are already changing it ,did I compare tom to sterling ? We are talking of Maddison and not sterling or rashford ,when you have nothing to say please admit to the truth than bring others players to it ,please remind me of where I compared him to sterling

He didn't win the league alone but he was among and he helped Chelsea,if Moses was error prone Chelsea might not win the league

So because saying Moses is a better winger than Maddison means I am overrating him ? Bros you no get anything wey you wan talk ,go back and read my message okay

Yes Moses is an average player I know please remind where I called him world class ? Don't you know how to read ,now is Maddison world class ?

I didn't call sterling or rashford ,bro please stop disgracing your intelligence

Seems you don't know the meaning of overating google will help you

When you are pointless it's better you admit than to change the topic and bring in sterling , smh for you

Mind you ,you are very clueless

Happy new year in advance

As a wing-back Moses is one of the best in the premier league but as a winger he is not close to any leicester or Arsenal winger.

Even Musa failed to cut it with Leicester.

Prior to the WC against European opponents, Moses struggled both as a winger and as a false 9.

We may have lost the friendly against Argentina with Moses present.

We defeated Iceland because we opted for Nacho and Musa upfront.

V.Moses didn't make any impact against England and Croatia because he played as a winger.

V.Moses is only good as a winger against african opposition.

gamaliel9:
Ndidi need a coach who will guide him on passes....he sure knows how to hammer those long range bombs....did it against Chelsea....He can score too...In future i see him reverting to his original poistion under Siasia...Centre Back...

Convert one of the best DMF in EPL to a CB?


U for play Mikel as 10 for Chelsea, since he played as 10 in U20.Also remember to play Musa Yahaya as a winger for Porto B since he played as a winger for the U17.

Youth football is different from professional and senior football.

andrew444:
I can give you 2 championship player who have been called up by England and got game time

The message am trying to pass is that Rohr doesn't rate players in back-water leagues.

Osimhen a Wolfsburg loanee got invited while playing in belgium, same way Mason mount a Chelsea loanee got invited while playing in the Championship.

We should also recall that Kalu never got a call-up till he left for French ligue 1.In his debut match he started ahead of Onyekuru who only got to play for 5 mins.

charlesemeka85:
Southgate few months ago invited Chelsea loanee to derby to the national team. Can't remember his name buh he is an attacking midfielder and a promising young star

Did he get to play?

Which other championship player was invited?

The same way Rohr called up Olamilekan Adeleye for the SA and Ugandan clash.

Did any championship player make their world cup squad?

do4luv14:
bros abeg kooly done ooo,
backwater you say,

so nah our own wey produce EZENWA, abi who mak ah call,
naim be front water abi middle water league

Uzoho got a call-up just because he kept twice for Deportivo La Coruna under Pep Mel.

Chukwueze got his own call-up just because he featured for Villarreal in a Europa league game.He even displaced Onyekuru.

When last did England Senior national team invite a player in the Championship?

Joebie:
Chikeluba Ofoedu scored the opener in Macaibi Tel Aviv’s 3-0 trashing of John Ogu’s Beer Sheva today.

The truth is Rohr doesn't rate players in Belgium,Turkey,Ukraine,Switz,Norway and other back-water leagues.Ighalo is still in the team because there is no player in Europe's top 5 league to compete with him.

BascoVanVeli:
He had a special moment in the match that is not up for dispute but you can't even name one other thing that he did right. Did he create anything else apart from that? After the goal he was deposited in our defenders pocket, they didn't let him come out and play.

I advise you rewatch the match.

Throughout the first-half he was troubling the left side of our defence particularly Omeruo with his pace,tricks and runs.

Is it any time that a winger makes runs,dribbles or out-paces a defender that he gets an assist or a goal?

If he didn't get an assist then you can say he wasn't outstanding.

Finito.

BascoVanVeli:
Where was the end result? Name one other thing that Percy Tau did, that is what I have been asking u ever since u came into this conversation. I repeat that SA had one single shot on target in 90 minutes. Btw are CBs now supposed to be world class sprinters? I wonder which defender u know has never been passed by a winger.

At least he got an assist after being the best player for both teams.

The guy was a threat throughout the first-half.

BascoVanVeli:
Simple mistake. Both Omeruo and Ekong were on the scene of the crime and u only pinpoint Omeruo as the fall guy. U said he was very very poor and that showed the match was not all that was on ur mind. U know what u are doing so let me not stop u.

Omeruo struggled to cope with Percy Tau's pace throughout the first-half.

Omeruo lacks pace.Even against Seychelles he had to foul their left-wing forward for getting past him.The same happened against Argentina where Messi outpaced him to score.He has always struggled to cope with pacy forwards.

BascoVanVeli:
But didn't Tau cut in from the right to make his assist? But i need to rewatch the game abi?

It's from our left side that had Omeruo not right.

BascoVanVeli:
You are just mixing yourself up. Tell us what else your Tau did apart from the assist. Did he have a shot? Did he create another chance? Who did he put under pressure? Was it Balogun, Ekong, Collins or Kalu? The only one sentimental here is you. You are going against reality just to prove a point

How come you didn't mention Omeruo? The goal even came from his side.He was also under pressure throughout the first- half.

You are being biased and tagging me a hater.

BascoVanVeli:
So am I safe to say that u just don't like Omeruo? Why have i not heard u mention any other player? Seems u just want to bash Omeruo and nothing more.

Stop being biased, Percy Tau was not effective in the right.

Bro,rewatch the game.

BascoVanVeli:
What room? Outside the goal Omeruo didn't even have much to do so I am shocked that you can say he was very very poor. You can never say that when the other team only had one shot on target and one chance created the whole match. How does that even work? A team had one single attack and you are saying our defender was poor. Ezenwa could have written a book with all the free time he had on his hands.

From Pulse.ng

Goal for South Africa
All credit to Percy Tau here, dribbles
Omeruo to run clear of Super Eagles
defence before squaring for Mothiba
to score in an empty net.

This is just one of them.I advise you rewatch the game.

BascoVanVeli:
What room? Outside the goal Omeruo didn't even have much to do so I am shocked that you can say he was very very poor. You can never say that when the other team only had one shot on target and one chance created the whole match. How does that even work? A team had one single attack and you are saying our defender was poor. Ezenwa could have written a book with all the free time he had on his hands.

Even Yobo confirmed our defenders gave him room to operate.

See,Percy Tau finished Omeruo that day.