Politics › Re: APC Would’ve Lost To Atiku If Osinbajo Got APC Ticket – Igbokwe Counters Sanusi by Efewestern: 2:13pm On May 03, 2023 |
AndroBlaze:
As at 1979, Zik of Africa was still far more of a popular name than Awo in most of the country. I believe the only non- Yoruba place Awo was popular was Benue and that would have been due to his previous history with Tarka.
Also though Awo took religion and to an extent christianity very very seriously, I am not aware he overtly campaigned with it like some people tend to. That's one of the reasons he was beloved by Yoruba across all religions ( traditionalists and Muslims included). Awolowo performed better than Zik in BENDEL. I believe the two enjoyed equal popularity outside the Igbo/Yoruba terrain. Regarding the original post, I don't see Osinbajo countering the Obi wave in either Plateau, Edo/Delta, or Benue. He may have won all Southwest states but would lose badly in the Northwest/Northeast. |
Politics › Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Efewestern: 6:37pm On Apr 23, 2023 |
darfay: His loosing Lagos was a calculated move to create the impression of a Free and fair election which some of you seem to have bought. Tinubu lost heavily throughout Lagos with the exception of ikorodu,Badagry and Epe
The only good thing about this election was that BVAS was able to reduce unrealistic vote from certain areas especially those fishing villages in the Niger Delta that churns out outrageous figures. Figures from Delta south are still a shock to me but if it would not be uniformly applied nationwide then it's a disservice to everyone. Some places in the north didn't apply it plus child voters
Gbadebo only lost Lagos due to tribal sentiment, it was forking hell on election day, non Yorubas were hurled with insults and violence, they forking had canes for non Yoruba voters in my polling unit. Tinubu's Apc has destroyed Lagos with tribalism and it's crazy how he was even able to amass any iota of votes in the SS because his minions will not spare us in their tribal madness against the igbos. Even if Gbadebo had said what was supposedly acceptable he would have lost, what did Jimi Agbaje do for them to label him jimichukwu in 2015? The crazy thing is that it's aboriginal Lagosians that are being marginalized but they don't seem to mind as they have fallen for Tinubu's tribal politics. Sanwo olu and his deputy are ijebu from Ogun state but Awori people in Ogun state will never have a chance to govern Ogun also.
I really wish obi would get in or even if he tries again, he would have gotten better electoral numbers, it's really had for us to get another person that would be accountable to us, on the issue of e voting, I really don't see why we shouldn't, it's not like we're pioneering anything, we're just going to copy what others have done. I almost cried when I saw a thread by a southie on NL here about how they get election results in real time enabled by E voting
It's like okowa now has a death grip on Delta state BAT/APC performed poorly in this election. They struggled everywhere. The results in Lagos was highly manipulated no doubt. I wasn't impressed with the votes from SE. Don't you think they could have given LP the needed boost. A rerun with just LP and APC would have been in favour of LP. As for the GBV guy, he purely lost. The violence and Tribal sentiments employed by the leading party wasn't even necessary. Just a stain on Sanwo-Olu's victory. The guy messed up a great chance and opportunity to govern one of Nigeria's most influential state. I expected more from an adult who wants to lead in a country like Nigeria. Somethings said weren't necessary... Just unnecessary. I'm pissed he wasted the party's ticket and i can bet that he won't win any election in SW with what they have against him. JIMI didn't get the chance GBV got. APC will always play the tribal card in Lagos but you don't give them reason to use it against you. Who even advised that guy ? I thought the Ijebus were still indigenous to Lagos? Abeg na their matter be that. Nigeria is a very tribalistic country and I've gotten used to this fact. Well, in my objective view, there was a great improvement in this election and it is by far one of the best conducted so far by the INEC. The BVAs reduced inflated votes everywhere. Look at what Borno state gave this year Vs what they have given in previous years. The KKK's too didn't give much. I wasn't impressed with the live transmission of results. What could probably prevent agents from uploading results immediately it was collated. Naija self. |
Politics › Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Efewestern: 3:18pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
darfay: He still rigged Lagos heavily tho and we're over ripe for e voting, this is the 21st century fCs He lost nevertheless. If not for tribal sentiments he wouldn't have got above 200k votes. But generally, this election was far better than previous elections if we are to be sincere. We saw how Sanwo-Olu and APC were shaken after their almighty "Godfather" lost the state. If not that the GVR guy was childish and careless at 40, I would have bet my balls that Sanwo-Olu wouldn't have won. If LP fields better guber candidate next time, they might even snatch Lagos from APC. E-voting is long overdue. We risked our lives coming out to vote, especially those of us in Delta, Rivers, Lagos. The gubernatorial here was disastrous. My unit was empty because of fear of electoral violence. E-voting will prevent these many controversies about manipulated results. It will also put many on their toes. With BAT as the new president, will there be any improvements? Only time can tell. |
Politics › Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Efewestern: 3:23pm On Apr 18, 2023 |
No magic votes anywhere. There was a great improvement no doubt. I myself was shocked with some results.
INEC/Security agencies need to work on electoral violence or maybe think of better ways Voters can vote without endangering their lives. E-voting (we are not ripe for this but we can start having a discussion on this).
If this election was to be conducted in 2003, there's no way BAT would loose Lagos and PDP, Delta. |
Travel › Re: How God Saved Me From The Accident That Killed 6 People (photos) by Efewestern: 8:06pm On Apr 13, 2023 |
Wishing you quick recovery and may the Good Lord replenish whenever you lost. |
Politics › Re: Is Nsukka The Largest Clan In Igboland? by Efewestern: 3:02pm On Mar 24, 2023 |
Ogbuefi2020: Northern Igboland have ties with Igala just like every other igbo group at the boundary have ties with their neighbors. The Igala ties is even stronger in Omanbala (northern part of Anambra state) than Nsukka I don't know much about Omanbala but I will look into it. The Igalas closer to the Eastern fringe share ancestry with Igbos while those on the western fringe share ancestry with Yoruba. There was an exchange at a point in time. |
Politics › Re: Is Nsukka The Largest Clan In Igboland? by Efewestern: 2:59pm On Mar 24, 2023 |
JasonScoolari: Got overwhelmed? Lol 😂
Oniovó, I don't like the way you want to push the Orogun people out of the Urhobo clan...
Orogun people are pure Urhobo's. 100% 😂 But the Urhobos don't have a single ancestral root. Some parts of Urhobo have got Ijaw ancestors too. It's normal. Even you, If you dig deep, you will realize that your people had mixture from other groups. That was how we came into existence. There are some Ijaw clans with Urhobo ancestors but that's discussion for another day. Orogun is 100% Urhobo. |
Politics › Re: Is Nsukka The Largest Clan In Igboland? by Efewestern: 2:53pm On Mar 24, 2023 |
Igboid: No such thing as Nsukka having Igala ancestors. Infact it's the other way round. Igala is an amalgam of Igbo( Which includes Nsukka), Yoruba, Hausa, Junkun and Okpoto.
Whatever so called Igala in Nsukka are actually from the Igbo part that made up Igala. You can't really say who came from who. Ethnic blocs are formed by the fusion of various closely related sub-groups and sometimes together with foreign/neighboring immigrants that will later be assimilated. The Nsukka people have great ancestral link with Igala and this is not something you can wish away. While it is true that Igala is mostly an amalgamation of Igbo and Yoruba, there is a great possibilities of Igala aboriginals being influenced by their neighbours, hence their links with Igbo and Yoruba. There was a wave of Igala immigrants to Southern Nigeria from 1200-1400. Infact most Southern groups recorded Igala connection. For example, the Igalas met riverine Ijebu dwellers when they first arrived in itsekiri part of Delta state. Those immigrants were assimilated into the larger stock. Same story in Edo and northern part of Delta. |
Politics › Re: Is Nsukka The Largest Clan In Igboland? by Efewestern: 2:39pm On Mar 24, 2023*. Modified: 3:05pm On Mar 24, 2023 |
JasonScoolari: Oniovó, is there any slim possibility of Orogun having direct ancestors with Aboh? The Orogun and Aboh people share great link. According the oral history, the ancestors of Orogun once resided in Aboh before moving to their present location. I would easily believe that Orogun was an hybrid that got overwhelmed by their Urhobo link. |
Politics › Re: Is Nsukka The Largest Clan In Igboland? by Efewestern: 2:29pm On Mar 24, 2023 |
senatordave1: True,just like okpe and isoko... I have not recovered from the loss of omo agege The Okpe and Isoko had ancestors from other sub-Urhobo group and vise Versal. Surprisingly, everyone is jumping on the Bini migratory origin whereas that's not really the case. @bolded Sorry about, Your man was probably betrayed. Results from Isokos was shocking. But this is politics. You loose some, you gain some. Greetings brother! |
Politics › Re: Is Nsukka The Largest Clan In Igboland? by Efewestern: 1:21pm On Mar 24, 2023 |
ThinkSmarter: By estimate, Ngwa should be the largest. Followed by Nsukka, Mbaise, Izzi, Ezza, Aro, Nnewi, Ikwo in that order To the person above saying that Nsukka is originally igala. What happened was that the Igbos living at border with other tribes were influenced by intermarriage, aculturation and cultural assimilation. The effect is more among the Nsukkas, Kwales, Izzis, Ezzas, Afikpos, Ikweres where the Igalas, Idomas, Ekois,ijaws, kalabari, bini tribes got assimilated by the igbos. While Nsukka might not be from Igala there is great possibilities of them having a little mix of Igala ancestors. Definitely, the larger stock originated from other Igboid territory but there is a slim possibilities of some having direct Igala ancestors who were later assimilated by the overwhelming Igbo aboriginals. The truth is that it is impossible for a people to have a single ancestral root. People pushing this narrative are either supremacist or revisionist. Cc: JasonScoolari |
Politics › Re: Profile Of Sheriff Oborevwori, Delta Governor-Elect by Efewestern: 5:06am On Mar 24, 2023 |
DivineT: You are the one who should know better still making same mistake. What is uvwie/water?
Okoloba in Effurun not Warri.
You as an indigene of uvwie making such mistake is shameful. I'm not from Uvwie though. But I get the point. I'm part of the wado project and I shouldn't have tagged Uvwie under Warri |
Politics › Re: Profile Of Sheriff Oborevwori, Delta Governor-Elect by Efewestern: 10:29pm On Mar 23, 2023 |
Georgejeez: Okoloba no de inside Warri Okoloba is in Effurun. Maybe you are not versatile with Uvwie/Warri terrain. That place is one of the most popular layouts in the early 2000. |
Politics › Re: Nigerian Governorship Elections 2023 (Live Updates And Monitoring) by Efewestern: 2:46pm On Mar 18, 2023 |
garfield1: Can omo agege do it Can't say bro. The turnup was poor. I went to my unit and spent only 2 minutes. Met no outstanding voters. |
Politics › Re: Nigerian Governorship Elections 2023 (Live Updates And Monitoring) by Efewestern: 11:31am On Mar 18, 2023 |
Turn up was too low. |
Culture › Re: World Oldest Monarch, Ohworode Of Olomu Passes On by Efewestern(op): 6:58am On Mar 18, 2023 |
Traditional Urhobo cultural dancers performing the Ema dancing step in the palace during the declaration of the passage of the monarch.
Credits: Urhobotoday.com
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Culture › World Oldest Monarch, Ohworode Of Olomu Passes On by Efewestern(op): 6:55am On Mar 18, 2023 |
By Akpokona Omafuaire
OLOMU – THE Ohworode of Olomu Kingdom, HRM, DR, (OVIE) R. L. Ogbon, Ogoni-Oghoro 1, Royal Canon, OON, Chairman, Council of Traditional Rulers Urhobo Nation has joined his ancestors aged106 years.
The World oldest monarch journey to the great beyond was announced yesterday during a meeting of the traditional council at the Ohworode palace in Ogoni Olomu. Making the announcement, Olorogun Macaulay Ovbagbedia, Otota of Olomu Kingdom said, “We can confirm today that our Ohworode has gone back to God. He lived a great life, he served the Government well and his people.
“We are mourning and celebrating, reason is because he was old but it’s painful though.” He said.
On his part, Olorogun Albert Akpomudje SAN, Akpile of Olomu Kingdom said due to the happening, there shall be 21 days of mourning in the kingdom, no celebration of burial and marriage.
He added that Chiefs should not adorn themselves in the traditional red cap and should add black armband to any dressing during the time.
That burial plans shall be announced shortly. The departed Ohworode of Olomu had celebrated his birthday on 20th January with a thanksgiving after a bout of health challenges over a period of two months.
The monarch was the only Anglican Communion ordained Royal Canon in the world. He also bagged a Honorary doctorate degree from the Delta State University Abraka for his contribution to education.
Ajuwe as he was commonly addressed till his departure could drive himself and read without glasses with complete sets of teeth. He also doubles as the oldest man (Okpako Orere) of Ogoni Olomu Community.
Born on 20th January 1917, the departed monarch was baptized into the Anglican Communion in 1936. He was a retired Inspector of Education under the then Bendel State ministry of education. The translated Ohworode was installed as the 12th Ohworode in 1988 when he was 70 years old.
His reign witnessed tremendous peace, progress and development. The burial announcement shall be made public after a mourning period.
Last public moment of late Ohworode
The departed Ohworode last public event was his 106 birthday celebration tagged ‘longevity king’ where he sang songs of praises to God and stated that a man only dies when God approves it.
The posture that day was clearly that of someone who was preparing for the last journey as his message was more of a farewell.
According to him, “God I thank you for your grace, please open your ears to give me long life so I can do that which pleases you all the time.
“Many people came here today for various reasons because I have been away, but I am here today to thank God. Fear God and do his will. In whatever you do, call on God daily.
“Do your best to follow God’s directive in your life. Have clean hands, avoid stealing, avoid embezzlement of public and individual funds.
“Avoid sexual relationship with other people’s wives and your relatives. Learn to love, forgive and be free of hatred, avoid jealousy and be contented, avoid alcohol and drugs abuse.” the monarch added.
The Ohworode had 12 children but was survived by 11 following the demise of the eldest child to Late Elizabeth Ogbon-Day, Nigeria first woman Ambassador.
The departure of the Ohworode will be missed due to his penchant for excellence and due process and strict adherence to the Urhobo culture. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/03/breaking-world-oldest-monarch-ohworode-of-olomu-passes-on/ |
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Family › Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Efewestern: 5:31am On Mar 05, 2023 |
Igboid: Soon Urhobo land, a married woman gets a share from his husband inheritance and also from his father's inheritance?
Isn't that unfair to the males? Does a woman gets anything from her husband's inheritance or her kids? In polygamous/monogamous home, inheritance are shared to the kids. If a man with four estates married 3 wives for example. 1st wife gave birth to 6 boys 2nd wife gave birth to 2 girls 3rd wife has no child. The third wife with no kid is automatically out of any inheritance. The first son takes the man's flat. The estate will then be shared equally. The first wife/gate with 6 boys takes 2 estate, the second wife/gate with two girls take two estate. Some families might share three estates equally to the two gate/wives and share the remaining estate to the man's brothers and sisters. The man's ancestral inheritance is also shared with similar formula. So a woman really has no inheritance in her husband's home. Inheritance are shared to the kids. So a child regardless of gender takes from his/her mother's and father's inheritance. Whether this is fair on the males is subjective. First sons also enjoy some benefits. |
Family › Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Efewestern: 7:17am On Mar 04, 2023 |
Igboid: I doubt women in your side have more power on their father's house than women in Igboland have in their father's house.
In Igboland, married women form an organization called Umuada or Umuokpu in their father's land, whose powers in decision making in their father's house is supreme.
Igbo culture doesn't allow a married woman to inherit her father's property, because she is expected to help her husband to create wealth and be a co-owner of that wealth. The idea is that by being tasked to create wealth in her husband house rather than being invested in her father's property, she is by default likely to make a better wife!
When a man marries a woman, she gives him a portion of his own land to inherit. This land belongs to the woman only as long as she is married to the man. When she dies, she is expected by tradition to bequeath this land to her last son, and this inheritance will not be counted for the last son when they start sharing their father's land. This is not universal in Igboland, but is present in most parts. Maybe you still don't get me when I say women enjoy as much liberty as men in this part. A woman is part of the family. Doesn't matter if she is single, married, alive or even dead. She has equal stake as male and so she is typically carried along in almost everything/process. Women's right in Igbo land is conditional. Ours isn't. Our forebears have always treated female and male with great sense of regards and equity. The benefits males have over females here is just irrelevant. Although there are things reserved for males (first sons). You can't deny a woman her ancestral inheritance on the basis that is she married. You also can't exclude her offspring from what's due to them too. I can still lay claim to some huge benefits from my maternal grandparent's family and I won't be denied. I know of Umuada and from my little experience,I know they are mostly relevant during traditional marriage rites and some other activities. They can't stand when real decision are being made by the males in that family. This huge difference between our various culture has an effect on the females Psych. The way Urhobo women behave in marriage is different from the way Igbo women will behave. |
Family › Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Efewestern: 5:10pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
Igboid: An Igbo woman inheritance is with her husband. She can inherit her father property only if she didn't marry.
No ethnic group in Nigeria spend more on personal development of their daughters than the Igbo. SE has the highest enrollment of females in JAMB exams. The idea is not far fetched. She is going to her husband house to share the inheritance of her husband with the children she will bear for him, so she must be equipped to be able to fend for herself in a new kindred. @ bolded. What happens when her father's side is more favourable than her husband's side? Shouldn't a woman be able to benefit from both side regardless of her marital status? There are benefits that comes with ancestral inheritance regardless of how equipped one is. While this culture has its own good side, we can't really overlook the negative impact it has on the female child. One thing I've come to realise is that most tribes in Nigeria differ greatly with the way they treat Men and Women. Us from across the Niger, You can't deny a Woman and her offspring her ancestral inheritance regardless of her marital status. Whatever you give the male, you must give the female. This too has its own advantages and disadvantages but I love the sense of self-worth and belongingness it brings to the female child. |
Family › Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Efewestern: 1:53pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
07kjb: Inheritance isn't the only problem
Who continues the LINAGE? Do people care about lineage or who inherits what's left on ground? The reason most Igbo people want a male kid is so their offspring takes over from them but that is not so with other Southern tribes. If I give birth to 10 females and 0 male, I won't even be perturbed because I know they will inherit everything I labour for. |
Family › Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by Efewestern: 1:36pm On Mar 03, 2023*. Modified: 2:04pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
Chivadoski: Tell me the tribe that male child is not important ? I pray God give you a male child to avoid family crises
Well for igbo people it is too important or else a wicked uncle might wanna inherit their properties and wealth when they passes away, no one wants to suffer and see another eat it all Many culture in Nigeria don't put too much value on male kids. I know for a fact that almost all tribes in Southern Nigeria with the exception of few place no value on male kids. All kids were treated equally by our forebears. Look at the local law of inheritance in several ethnic group to get the full picture. In my own culture. Kids regardless of their gender must inherit their parents/grand parents properties. |
Politics › Re: APC Wins Two Senatorial Seats In Delta by Efewestern: 5:07am On Mar 02, 2023 |
darfay: I don't think it was just about turn out alone, I believe we outnumber the ijaw and itsekiri people in that zone. Even majority of the newly registered voters were from the isoko area. I found it surprising that both isoko lgas produced more votes than all other lga in the senatorial district combined with the exclusion of warri south because of it's nature as a cosmopolitan and multi tribal demography With that being said I don't know how the Apc guy won the zone if he was loosing his home base/isoko area albeit marginally or did he win convincingly in warri south because I can't get my hands on the senatorial results by lga Questionable figures was what gave others edge over the Isokos in the past. The BVAS was a blessing in disguise. It unveiled lots of things. We previously had this conversation about the Isoko population. Even till date, they still haven't harnessed their potentials because they couldn't give Onowakpo the bloc votes he needed. They were still splitting votes within themselves, that was why the margin he used to beat Ejele in the two Isoko LGAs wasn't high. Also, from the few LGAs released, the votes from Itsekiri and Ijaw strongholds were just too low and could easily be cancelled by Urhobo votes in Warri South. |
Politics › Re: APC Wins Two Senatorial Seats In Delta by Efewestern: 9:18am On Mar 01, 2023 |
Aiel123: Waive still won..ok, good for him. We have discussed your point two countless times. I find it surprising for PDP to leave ijaw to their fate given how much Ijaw votes had helped them...but they still won in ijaw areas. Bvas is good. No more unrealistic figures aside Rivers... Wike is a wicked rigger. Rivers couldn't even give more than 500k total votes. In 2011 they gave PDP above 1m. If not for underage voting, most Northern states won't exceed 300k. BVAS will help checkmate corrupt practices. Wike was fighting for his survival. He needed to ensure BAT wins else he is a goner. Okowa was too quick to dismiss others who helped built PDP. In politics you build bridges not burn bridges. |
Politics › Re: APC Wins Two Senatorial Seats In Delta by Efewestern: 9:07am On Mar 01, 2023 |
Aiel123: You've said it all. Those votes from ijaw areas where too poor. LP won OSU federal constituency. Who won ughelli federal constituency? Ibori daughter won... If Obidients support Agege, It's finished. Waive of APC won. I believe the Ijaws are not happy with the present government. Their turnup was too too low. In Bomadi for example, only 10k votes were accredited out of 100k+ registered voters. BVAS also helped in checkmating lots of unrealistic votes. Even the votes from the almighty NW and NE were abysmal. |
Politics › Re: APC Wins Two Senatorial Seats In Delta by Efewestern: 8:56am On Mar 01, 2023 |
Aiel123: I told you Isoko voted APC...just that PDP won the federal constituency seat. Nothing was shocking to me... Thank God Ned won , PDP would have had no senator elect. The electoral acts and BVAS was truly effective. Look at the votes Borno gave this year then compare to previous elections. Delta South normally give a greater turnout but this election, the turnout was around 10-15% in some Ijaw and Itsekiri LGAs. PDP have a tough fight to put in the gubernatorial election since the magic votes are begining to disappear. senatordave1: Cc efewestern, aiel123, tutudesz,never saw Thomas victory coming I told you that the populations of the Isokos is intimidating. Head to head, there is no way Itsekiri would get more votes than them. Even in this election, many still voted Ejele but they came out victorious. Have you seen the votes Delta Central gave LP? Real voting strength talking now. |
Politics › Re: Obi Leads Atiku, Tinubu In Abia, Wins 11 Local Governments by Efewestern: 11:31pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
PlayMaker14: No wahala Dafinone and Onowakpo won. This new electoral act greatly made impacts. |
Politics › Re: Obi Leads Atiku, Tinubu In Abia, Wins 11 Local Governments by Efewestern: 8:21pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
PlayMaker14: I will get the info soon. Okay oniovo. Keep me posted. |
Politics › Re: Obi Leads Atiku, Tinubu In Abia, Wins 11 Local Governments by Efewestern: 6:08pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
PlayMaker14: I just called Hon. Francis Ejiroghene Waive and I confirmed from him that he won the election. Wow. Who won the Senate? |
Politics › Re: Obi Leads Atiku, Tinubu In Abia, Wins 11 Local Governments by Efewestern: 11:26am On Feb 27, 2023 |
JasonScoolari: So Waive lost woefully? Lol Did he loose? Haven't seen much HoR and Senate results yet. |
Politics › Re: Obi Leads Atiku, Tinubu In Abia, Wins 11 Local Governments by Efewestern: 11:00am On Feb 27, 2023 |
JasonScoolari: Oniovó, you know whether Hon Francis Ejiroghene Waive win him Udu Constituency? Nothing from Waive yet. My focus is on the presidency 😂 |