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ANIMABIDR:
3 hours light in 24hrs

Are Nigeria NEPA devils ?

3 hours self no be constant. Everywhere cast!

Estate and Okumagba no they use eye see light. Them feet go weeks without light self

highchief1:
senior man e get wetin dem Dey call wrong investment.I bought a land for 1.8m in Mariam babangida in 2013 now na 70m..Who Dey tell u say land na land?be strategic in investing bro.I learnt late if not I for don be billionaire by now.

Depends on the location. Even in Abuja, there are places where you would acquire a property and it won't appreciate well.

Someone bought 50*100 in Okuisoko in Uvwie for 6m some years back. Now the land goes for over 30-40milla. In Osubi you won't see land of 6mil as we speak. Warri is expanding at a very irregular way. No centre of dev concentration like we see in Asaba. I would prefer we develop one part before going to the next, but develop spreads fastly from Uvwie to Okpe, Udu at the same time. Several communities developing at thesame time.

If I'm well balanced, I'd love to have Assets in Lagos (most especially around Lekki Free Trade Zone) or PH. Just buy and resell later.

Power situation is horrible in Warri. Just 3 hours daily and you are not even guaranteed daily supply. I had issues in my former apartment because of postpaid. I was over-billed for power I didn't consume. I shapperly move to another property with prepaid meter. 😂

garfield1:
Almost lost the seat when he won by 500k margin? What about sheriff that won by 100k

Do you want to pretend like you don't know why the margin was high? Would there have been any margin if GVB hadn't given the content needed to fuel his failure?

garfield1:
There was no suppression in lagos.sanwoolu was always going to win.people voted against tinubu not apc

A packet of violence were recorded bro. People voted against APC. It was hard for APC candidates nationwide.

Sanwoolu almost lost the seat. Imagined what would have happened if those who voted Obi voted GVB?

Again, if opposition had presented a more formidable force, Sanwoolu would have lost.

ImperialYoruba:
PDP recorded best results as opposition and never displaced APC. LP performance was not anywhere close to PDP achievement over the years. So how did you arrive at a proposition of LP toppling APC in future when the data clearly does not justify it?

Abi dis na anoda social media noise just to arouse emotions?

LP outperform PDP actually. Agbaje had the goodwill of his people, GVB didn't. If Abaje had contested this year under LP and with the new electoral laws in place, it would have been a total massacre.

GVB made it too easy to demarket and discredit him. Some things said during the campaign season were unnecessary. LP had the Obi wave to ride on, Agbaje didn't enjoy any of these luxury.

garfield1:
You are funny.why didn't lp win Enugu,delta,cross river? Sanwoolu was just scared for nothing.obi won with just 10k votes.most of those voting obi actually liked sanwoolu

Obi won despite the suppression. GVB could have won if he had the goodwill of his people. garfield1 you just have to agree with me that your party almost lost that state.

His old tweets and constant mess up gave APC the victory. The new electoral law was a game changer.

Penguin2:
Threads like this are threads I’ve learnt to ignore and let you feed yourselves whatever you believe. But because threads like this are what Nairaland Moderators like moving to front page, that’s why I’m just going to correct some of your false claims before the world believes your lies.

You claimed GRV couldn’t win because some of his past utterances were unearthed and they seemed demeaning of the Yoruba race, right? That that is the reason for all the tribalistic overdrive by APC forces which went as far as denying GRV’s Yoruba identity, right?

Now, what was Jimmy Agbaje’s crime? Is he married to an Igbo woman? Did you people also unearth his old tweets where he supported Igbos over Yorubas? Is his mother Igbo? No. Yet you people called him “Jimichukwu” and labeled him an Igbo candidate twice. Why?

The answer is simple…. Tribalism is your only stock in trade. It started from the days of Awolowo. Now Tinubu has elevated it to even a more dangerous pedestal, and is unfortunately passing it to some gullible Yoruba youths.

But guess what, in this year’s general elections, all those tribalistic slurs and agenda didn’t work as majority of Yorubas have seen that Tinubu and majority of politicians in his political school exploit tribalism only for their selfish gains.

That’s why despite all the names and tribal slurs against Obi, he still won Lagos. Not just winning Lagos, but he even won Yoruba populated LGAs like Alimosho.

You people saw the danger, you saw that Tinubu has been rejected by Lagosians.

That’s why during the gubernatorial elections, your leaders rented an army of touts from Ekiti, Osun and Ondo into Lagos. These touts killed people, they injured many and prevented thousands of others from accessing polling units at all because they “looked like Igbos”.

However, despite these intimidations, those who voted still voted GRV, including the Yorubas you allowed to vote. So you had to resort to writing results to favour Sanwolu and declare him winner.

But guess what you have the effrontery to do - to come here and start feigning ignorance of all these things already, in less than 6 months. You are already attempting to rewrite history while the witnesses are still alive.

I just want to remind you that in a free and fair election without the butchers you rented from outside Lagos to join the butchers you already have in Lagos, Sanwolu wouldn’t have come second.

I don’t expect you to agree with reason; I know you have been programmed and dispatched to come here and rewrite history and reinforce falsehood but let’s see how long that lasts.

Stop with the delusion already! If you are not objective then it's best you avoid my threads. I'm not your regular e-rats that you would throw baseless accusations on.

We are talking about the possibilities of opposition winning a state and how the main opposition candidate messed up a golden opportunity and you are here trying to go tribalist.

Again, GVB messed up with his tweets. At 40, you should know how Nigerians are wired. A candidate shouldn't be perceived to be anti-his-people. The violence recorded during the guber election was unnecessary and condemnable... Even still, GVB would still have lost woefully. He gave APC the bullet to destroy all his political ambitions with his actions.

Heck, he lost in his unit, ward and LGA. Violence also prevented him from winning his unit?

Despite the propaganda used against Agbaje, he posed serious threat to the leadership of APC in the state. Infact, if the electoral law was in tact during the time he contested, he'd have won. We all know how they used magic votes to counter oppositions untill recently.

garfield1:
The closest was in 2007 between fashola and obanikoro and 2015 between ambode and jk

With Obi winning the state, don't you think Gbadebo would have won if not for his unreasonable tweets ?

APC had always banked on some magic votes to deliver Lagos, but with the new electoral laws, some of those advantages were lost. The atmosphere was ripe for a change in government, Sanwolu almost pee on his pants but luckily for him, GVB continued to make statements that rallied even the pro-obi voters to vote for him.

Aiel123:
It will be very hard.
This Lagos was one of Atiku's mistake he regrets greatly till today.
Agbaje came really close but fell short even when backed by a sitting president.
The factors that helped Obi win Lagos won't work for guber elections.

Lots of factors were in Gbadebo's favour. The endsars, Bad performance of APC, quest to end godfatherism and Obi wave.

Agbaje came really close I agree, that's because he had support from his ethnic group and non-indigenes. Also, the voter manipulations during the time that Agbaje contested was really high. Votes were forged from thin air. Like the case we had in riverine communities in Delta. The ruling party had LGAs in Lagos that could cancel votes from other zones.

Gbadebo missed it with his tweets, even during the campaign, he was giving some vibes unnecessary for a candidate.

The electoral laws limited lots of fraudulent voters manipulation, so if he had the support of the Yorubas who are the majority in the state, he would have won. But he played into APC's hand with his immaturity. It pains me for the opposition and democracy.

Change in governments is the beauty of democracy. Experiencing leadership from different parties brings out the true essence of democracy. This year marked the closest the opposition has ever come to winning one of Nigeria's most influential states.

Can they be this close in the coming elections? Considering how Obi won the state despite the challenges, the Guber candidate could have easily rode the wave but he lost woefully. The margin was too wide to even consider him a threat.

Evboesi:
in the eyes of historians, it might not be so true

We are saying that same thing. Let me highlight my points for you incase there is a mix-up somewhere.

* Bini influences covers today Eastern Yoruba territory and Igbo-speaking part of Delta state.

* The Edoid groups in Delta built autonomous communities and have lived that way for centuries even before the Bini empire came to life.

* Kingship within the Edoid groups in Delta was too recent and so they sought out the blessing and validity of a superior Kingdom and king, reason chiefs/kings go to the Oba to seek approval when coronated. Traditional Urhobo clan operate a vary system where seniority in chief ranking determines who lead. This wasn't the way the Edoid groups in Benin lived.

Evboesi:
you have changed your stance from to no single Ijaw clan to no Ijaw clan in delta, all the Ijaw communities in Edo state were dominated by the Binis. This is what I responded to

Non-Edoid groups in Delta state aside the Ijaws were easily penetrated and influenced. The Binis sent a prince to unite Ijebu riverine dwellers and the Itsekiri kingdom was made. The Igboid part of the state were already receiving influx of Bini migrants, so the ground was already soft for Bini influences. Maybe this was the reason Aboh built the most successful kingdom in Delta state.

Of all groups, I respect the Ijaws the most. They seems to be the oldest in the zone as they are visible in most of my ancestral trace and not a single Ijaw clan fell under the control of the Binis.

Get the full context. We are talk about ethnic groups in Delta State and Bini influences on them. I mentioned Ijaw being the only group that wasn't influenced in anyway.

Besides, Ijaw migration to Bini and Ondo was a recent move. When you look at Ijaw natural abode you'd see a kind of disconnect.

Again, no clan of Ijaw fell to any external influences and they probably are the oldest indigenous people in SS as they seem to be rooted in most of our ancestral trace.

Evboesi:
You cannot be absolute with these things, this is history, the Ijaws were not really land people, they were riverine people, and besides the much touted Ughoton or Gwatto port, was Ughoton-Gele-Gele port and it was under the control of the Binis. Say what you know bro, say what you know

Binis also had influences over Riverine communities. Controlled creeks in Ondo and extended influences to Iwerre. In all of these, no single Ijaw community in the Delta was influenced.

My point, Ijaws were the only group in the Delta or one of the few group that outsiders couldn't penetrate. Also, they seem to be the oldest indigenous group in Southern Nigeria that have held sway of their environment for centuries.

They had contacts with Edoid Aboriginals centuries before the Bini empire came to life and several Edoid communities was as a result of Ijaw/Urhobo/Isoko ancestral blend. Were they influenced by Edoid groups? Of course yes, The Ijaws had ancestors from Urhobo but they still maintained dominance of all their surroundings.

That's the point I was trying to pass.

garfield1:
Mofe boyo? Delta can't have 2

Yes Mofe, who said Delta can't have two?

Aiel123:
She is head of NEXIM agency.

A technocrat I suppose. Seems most BAT's slot to Niger Delta will go to Rivers and Akwa Ibom.

There's a rumour of Ibori and Edevbie securing ranks with the presidency. With the lists out, it might just be a rumour.

garfield1:
Very true plus delta gave tinubu the lowest margins.okotete will be junior minister.cc aiel123, efewestern, tutudesz

I know very little of her. I was thinking a certain oil mogul would make the list. Or is there any supplementary list coming out?

garfield1:
Cc aiel123, efewestern

Wike, Akpabio and Oshiomole.

My own personal ranking.

wesley08:
The below attached historical records and accounts should tell you all you need to know about Aboh’s ties to Benin. The evidence attached herewith corroborates oral accounts from Aboh as well as those from its neighbors- all of which developed and were collected independently. Except there was a “Berlin-style” conference in which Benin, Anioma villages, and Aboh people were assembled to agree to tell these complementing stories in future, then the origin and history of Aboh people is not in doubt. It's legitimacy and reverence drew from this direct relationship with the Oba stool. And yes, IT DID CROWN at least an ISOKO King that I'm 100% sure of.
Disregarding the below evidence, it would historically make sense for Benin that reigned supreme and largely unchallenged in the South, to maintain an outpost on the Eastern front in Aboh just as it did with Warri in sending Prince Ginuwa to reign over that land. These sort of controls would've ensured Benin indirectly controlled the major slave trade routes even though that trade was prohibited in the capital. The marked difference between what happened in Warri and what happened in Aboh however was that unlike in Warri where a political elite were sent to rule, a caravan arrrived Aboh and a fight of conquest ensued with the Aborigines. Having secured victory by subterfuge from the Igbo speaking aborigines and entered into a peaceful pact with the less numerous Itsekiri speaking aborigines (The Akarai and Iwuere people respectively) the Igbo-speaking aborigines were made to live separately in their Akarai homelands, allowing for the spouting of a new civilization comprising primarily of the original Benin migrants and those they integrated into their community from far and near. There is ABSOLUTELY NO evidence of Igbo dominance in Aboh ABSOLUTELY None and I dear any Cow talking non$ense here to provide any.
Those still trying to push an Igbo-origin narrative and attempting to distort the history of Aboh and Anioma people in general are the usual suspects who do not know their own history but feel inclined to tell other people theirs. Clowns that still do not know that there are Aboh people in Imo and Enugu states that boldly claim to be of Delta origin, bear our names and espouse our culture in their supposed heartland.

On the autonomy of Urhobo and Isoko communities, I haven't found any evidence of it. Maybe I haven't done enough research on the subject but what I do know and I stand corrected is that the Urhobo's were subject to the Oba's appointed King in Warri and the portions that didn't fall under the influence of the Olu of Warri were directly administered by the Oba from Benin. Reason there were no prominent Kings but chiefs in those parts up until later in the 19th century. These Chiefs were defacto kings and were required to gain legitimacy from a Benin-anointed stool hence the resort to trips to Benin and later, Aboh when it rose to prominence.

Before I make comment on the Aboh kingdom and its relationship with the Bini, let me first correct the bolded.

First, several Urhobo/Isoko communities were already established before anything Bini Kingdom existed. They Urhobos were fully autonomous and independent from any external influences. I dare you to reference any Urhobo community/clan that was under the control of the Oba of Bini or any external force.

Directly or indirectly, no Urhobo clan was under the control of Oba of Bini and kingship in Urhobo land was too recent and it came out of the urge to belong. Only few Urhobo clans like Olomu, Agbon and maybe Ughelli had kings. The Urhobos operated a society that was far different from that of the Binis.

Bold of you to think Olu of Warri controlled the hinterland. Infact, the king of Iwerre was confined to his riverine communities. It was only recent did the Itsekiris migrated upland. Individual Urhobo communities controlled everywhere from Oghara down to Warri. Urhobo indigenous warriors (Igbu) were mainly stationed in bushes and forests.

Oba of Bini was an influential king in the whole of southern Nigeria, so non-powerful chiefs and leaders found in autonomous Urhobo communities would naturally want to associate with such greate power. Were the Urhobos under the control of Bini? Hell no! Did Oba of Bini appoint any leader to lead any Urhobo clan? Hell no!


I agree with your inputs. What happened in Aboh was similar to what happen to Warri. There was an exchange in power and I bet the power came from Bini.

RedboneSmith:
So it’s now a matter of semantics. It’s alright. Confirmation or external recognition for bragging rights, some ivie had to go to Aboh upon ascending the throne for whatever reason. That is the crux of my submission. I wasn’t trying to project some Aboh imperium on Urhobo and Isoko. I actually stated that the journey was made because of the convenience of proximity than anything else.

Also note that Bradbury spoke of some ivie “obtaining their titles” from the Obi. This suggests that this goes beyond mere recognition for some at least of the ivie that made that trip.


Now you’re making it sound like I said all or most Urhobo ivie went to Aboh. Of course I knew most went to Benin.

I need to dig more into the Aboh-Bini relationship. It have always avoided that part of history because of its complexity and controversies.

But some questions beg for answer...

* Why was Aboh revered so much?
* Was the Obiship stool in Aboh a direct offshoot of Bini like that of Itsekiri ?
* Was Aboh considered an extension of Bini?

The reason I got into this slight argument with you is because you missed the point clefstone was trying to make when he mentioned there exists a Ndokwa name in a core Urhobo clan. The existence of such name wasn't as a result of cultural influence but migration and assimilation. I went further to give you examples of how Itsekiri names are found in several Urhobo clans. By the way, thanks for the references. I learnt a two.

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For us to get a clearer view of the past, we need to understand how related groups once lived. Kingdoms/Empires weren't really a thing for most occupants of today's Delta State. The Edoid Aboriginals never had that zeal to build an empire, the only group that were able to get a meaningful kingdom got it through Bini influences or other external factors.

The Urhobos/Isokos built flourishing independent clans they guilded fiercely. These clans were in no way under the control of any external influences. While the Binis saw the Oba as a god on earth, the Urhobos/Isokos only reverved the throne due to the enormous power it carries and territories it controls. (Oba of Bini at his peak controlled the whole of Eastern Yoruba and faraway lagos).

When the British started indirect rule, the Urhobos who were mostly republican in nature started creating thrones and for these kingdoms to get validity, they sought out for the Oba's blessings.

These actions led to many erroneously thinking the Urhobos/Isokos were under the control of the reigning Oba. Infact, the Urhobos were the only group whose none of its land was under the Oba's control till this very day. Whereas, some Anioma and Itsekiri territory till this very day are still under the Oba's control (See Igbanke and Ologbo). The attempt to control Oghara was heavily resisted and the rest they say is history.

Non-Edoid groups in Delta state aside the Ijaws were easily penetrated and influenced. The Binis sent a prince to unite Ijebu riverine dwellers and the Itsekiri kingdom was made. The Igboid part of the state were already receiving influx of Bini migrants, so the ground was already soft for Bini influences. Maybe this was the reason Aboh built the most successful kingdom in Delta state.

Of all groups, I respect the Ijaws the most. They seems to be the oldest in the zone as they are visible in most of my ancestral trace and not a single Ijaw clan fell under the control of the Binis.

Cc: Igboid, clefstone, RedboneSmith

RedboneSmith:
Like I already said, those are not my words. Those were the words of historians and ethnographers who actually did work in the area. First screenshot, quote is from Professor Alagoa, and in the references he cited that the information was obtained in colonial times from the Abraka people themselves.

Screenshot Two is from Bradbury. In the 1950s when Bradbury was doing his research in the area, the practice was apparently still current.

I actually have more source materials in hard copy form but I don't have my books with me.

I am not making anything up. What I said is supported by historical literature. It is left for you to argue with the literature, not me. Also, Abraka is not a border town to Benin and is not closer to Benin than to Aboh.

From the references, Obi of Aboh never confirmed into office any Urhobo king and the Ovie of Abraka only needed external recognition or bragging rights that was why he went to Obi of Aboh. Obviously, Aboh kingdom was far more influential than Abraka kingdom.

Here was your initial submission.

There’s nothing strange here. Aboh’s influence in the Isoko-Urhobo area is well-acknowledged. The ivie of Abraka and a number of other places in that axis were confirmed in office by the Obi of Aboh.

The documents you submitted still didn't validate your initial submissions. It only confirmed what I said about Urhobo chiefs mostly going to Bini. The popular EMA dance of the Urhobo people was as a result of the frequent visitation to the Oba palace. You can easily knot together the Bini-Urhobo validation taste but not Obi of Aboh. He has zero influence anywhere in Urhobo land.

Also, You should know that most kingdoms in Urhobo land are too recent. Urhobo lived more like the Eastern Igbos. Kingship and what have you wasn't the core of their existence. Infact, Bini was the only Edoid group to build a very powerful and influential kingdom. The rest Edoid groups built autonomous clans. It is never recorded in history that Obi of Aboh crowned an Urhobo king.

RedboneSmith:
This is actually stated and recorded in history texts, including the works of renowned Isoko and Urhobo historians like the late Professor Obaro Ikime. The texts state that because Benin was quite far, it became fashionable for the Ovie of Abraka and some other ivie in that axis to obtain their confirmation from the Obi of Aboh whose domain was closer. I didn’t make it up. Look at your own historical records.

Cite historical documents. Don't just say words, give valid references.

I'm very vast with history. There's no Urhobo/Isoko community that obtained confirmation from any Aboh king. Even receiving blessings from the Oba of Bini was mostly done by chiefs. Urhobo communities were fully autonomous.

The Abraka you cited is a border town to Aka (Bini), that's where it got its name from. Infact, Abraka was involved in a number of clashes with Bini. Why would Abraka, a town that is closer to Bini seek confirmation from an unrelated and faraway king from Aboh? Obi of Aboh has no single influence on any Urhobo clan. The only external king revered was/is the Oba of Bini.

clefstone gave you an example of how a name of Ndokwa/Ukwuani origin got into Uvwie, the next you could do is say Aboh had influence on Urhobo terrain. How? When?

RedboneSmith
There’s nothing strange here. Aboh’s influence in the Isoko-Urhobo area is well-acknowledged. The ivie of Abraka and a number of other places in that axis were confirmed in office by the Obi of Aboh. The question is whether there’s a similar acknowledgment for the Nsukka zone. And the answer is no.

Ovie of Abraka confirmed in office by the Obi of Aboh? Slow down with historical twist. Of course there are exchanges between Aboh and Urhobo, but no Urhobo community was influenced by the Obi of Agboh. Infact, the ancestor of Orogun, Efe, helped the Obi of Aboh win one of their toughest battle.

The example clefstone gave was in faraway Uvwie, an Urhobo clan with no single link whatever with Aboh. The only ancestors recorded in Uvwie are internal Urhobo migrants & Ijaws.

His example explained how people of old settled anywhere they found themselves. Of course this is very much valid. In that same Effurun, there is a popular family name with Itsekiri origin. What happened is that once trade takes people somewhere, they settle down there and assimilate with the aboriginals.

Igboid:
Ugbo is Igbo, Igbo is bigger than all Edoids combined. Do the maths.

It is also fact that a large percentage of what you call Edoid today are of Igbo origin, or you think the tail( Edo) can wag the dog( Igbo) ?

Did the Yorubas also borrowed the word from Igbo? A word that is visible in almost all Yoruboid and Edoid dialect suddenly originated from Igboid ? Make it make sense.

A large percentage of what part of Edoid is Igbo? You can start by listing the Edoid groups/communities that are mostly of Igboid origin. Of course, there is no denying that some communities had a touch of Igbo ancestors, but your claim of majority is fraudulent at best.

I have told you several times that no group grows in isolation. There is always a blend of external ancestry. You are they one doing everything you can to erase the Edoid and Igala origin of your people in other to push your supremacist goals.

Fact is fact. Agbor people is made up of Edo and Igbo ancestors. Heck, even the Odiani are of Owo and Akure origin.

Igboid:
Ossai is Igbo name.
I bet we have more Ossai from Nsukka than we have from the whole Delta North.
Shows how little you know about Igbo tribes.
Bini is too small to have given Igbos the word Ugbo.
My guess is that Bini borrowed Ugbo from Igbos, because Farm is called Ugbo all the way from Anambra to Ebonyi, Abia, Enugu and Imo.

Bini borrowed what? Ugbo? Common, that is a word visible in almost all Edoid languages. Even non-Edoid group that had zero contact with Igbo make use of the word. It means Forest/Bushes/uncleared path. Or did Ilaje, Itsekiri, Ikale also borrowed it from Igbo?

I can give you a deep usage in Edoid. Infact, there is a town called Ugbokodo in Okpe, when translated into English from Urhobo, it means the forest is deep. "Ugbo-na-kodo-r'. "

My issue with you is that you are always economical with historical facts. You find ways to twist things to suit your idealogy. clefstone is right with some of his submissions.

What most of you confuse is that you think Edoid starts and ends with Bini. Infact, a lot has happened before the Bini empire took shape. The true origin of all Edoid people before the migration could even be from a remote area in Esan. Bini's influences overshadowed everything but that doesn't change the fact that some ancestors of what we today know as Anioma are Edoid.

Wodu89:
I'm telling you. People who carry loads are not spared.

They are menace to the society. They are everywhere in Southern Nigeria, terrorising hard-workers.

They task everything and everybody. They task business men, property developers and even contractors.

These things are the commander in chief of the streets in Nigeria. SMH

Oba should get hold of these looted items.

Vinnie2000:
He remained a Nationalist till Death,Bro.

In 1979, His Party NPP won Election in Faraway Plateau state. (Solomon Lar). 🤨🙂

He was called Zik of Africa and was NOT a Ethnic Warlord Politician like Buhari, Awolowo and Tinubu.
He was Pan-Nigerian like the current day Peter Obi. 😊😎

I know he was a nationalist. He didn't see things through tribal lens, but after he got rubbished by tribal supremacists he crawled back home. The case of the removal of Eyo-Eta was a great example.

Yes Obi is more a nationalist than any of the contenders. He never exploited his tribal affiliations like others did.

demmie1:
Pls let's open everything. If anyone has more bring it and quote a viable source not lies or my papa say

What source do you need? That Benin was suppressed and received less allocations? Or that Awolowo got himself into the Warri entanglement because of tribal affiliations? Or that the minorities in Western region weren't oppressed? None of these are hearsay. They are raw facts.

I'm not here to demonize or praise anyone. Nigeria is a very peculiar country. Our differences and diversities can be a valid reason why people act in certain way.

Like I have hinted. Awolowo was too pro-Yoruba. Probably one of the most dedicated Yoruba politician. Azikiwe was more a nationalist but when he received reality shock, he crawled back to his tribal enclave.

Penguin2:
I think Awolowo was everything Tinubu is now, and more.

Man was very tribalistic. Tried to make Yoruba the lingua franca even to non-Yorubas like Benins and Western Igbos.

You can imagine one of the leaders of the Benin people then saying they preferred being bombed by nuclear weapon than remaining under Western Region. Do you know what can make a man say that?

It is human nature to always subdue and oppress when they are the majority. I don't think you can compare Awolowo with Tinubu. Tinubu doesn't come close, not even by half. Tinubu only exploits Tribal affiliation for his political goals. Awolowo exploit tribal affiliations for the advancement of his people. He cares less about others. But then he's a leader of a region with non-Yorubas.

He could have avoided lots of setbacks by being neutral, but no, he'd loose it all than not advancing the goal of his people. Tinubu won't make such moves. Tinubu exploits both Tribal and religious sentiments for his political goals. So Awolowo is more a tribal leader.

@bolded, even till today, that sentiments still hold for the minorities. Should Nigeria divide today you'd be shocked by how many nation will come out of this contraption. Nobody wants to experience what they faced during the regional system of government. The minorities were munched from all corners.

Penguin2:
Awolowo never wanted the Midwest to become a separate region. And it’s very likely he instigated the COR (Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers) to demand for a separate region away from Eastern Region as payback for NCNC’s support for the creation of the Midwestern Region.

Awolowo was too pro-Yoruba to be a leader in a diverse region like West. He only dived into the Olu Tussle because of Itsekiri's Yoruba link/ancestry. A suicidal political move that cost him a lot. He also allocated more to Ibadan with less population than Benin with higher population. His only political allies were mainly from the Itsekiri stock, that's to tell you how pro-Yoruba he's. People like Rewane stood by him till the end, while political gladiators from Urhobo/Benin rallied with Azikiwe who was also trying to weaken Awo's growing influences.

Also, you are wrong with the quoted. Awolowo never instigated the COR demand for separation. The minorities in the then Eastern region were already demanding for a separate region and the removal of Eyo-Eta strengthened their resolve for their independence. Minorities had no good anywhere. It was hell everywhere. Those in Northern received the highest slaps of injustice.

We don't want to open the cankerworm of the past, but if we are to, then we should speak the truth at all time.

Penguin2 don't let that man convince you that they wanted a power shift. We saw the voting patterns and how they suddenly found their brother attractive despite voting against him in previous elections.

I only pity them because they are currently being weakened and there isn't any region they can manipulate. NC alliances is now split between Southern regions. SW won't bend, SE is no go area and SS is waking up.

The only good thing about this election was that arrogance and supremacist ideologies were cured. After now, nobody will try that nonsense of wanting to hold onto power in a diverse nation like Nigeria.