₦airaland Forum

Penalty82:
Lol, as if you know who you're talking with. Stop bn childish here my friend. I am more matured than you are and will not be tempted to reveal my true identity. At least you're not paying my bills.

you threw the first stone. So deal with it.

majekdom2:
you were there? What took you there? you are saying... no evidence or perhaps you don't understand the testimonies. You are just the regular critic that sees nothing good in anything. Which churches? @ last bolded, your type is the one that believes everyone that is in church is a pauper or you are better than everyone online. Again, a church in 190 nations and an individual known on nairaland. Which would you follow.

They are in 190 nations because Nigerians who belong to the church are also in the 190 nations. I am not denying their outreach. I was born and raised in the church, in fact RCCG used my church's model, similar doctrines. Man, I won state wide Bible recitations back to back and I know my Bible (or knew my Bible) I had gotten my membership at 15 at the HQ of that particular church which was sanctioned from the US the int. HQ. So don't assume I don't know what I am saying or want to be critical. However, I am also objective, I have since travelled well also and observed some principles about how things work. They all have one thing in common and that is what freeze is saying. May be he should be a lil bit comical with it so you can all reason.

Penalty82:
Who dash monkey jacket.

So, you think everyone is as poor as you are? Because you saw me on Nairaland? See mentality. I have been to more countries that will ever been in your next 10 years (let me not say your entire life).

MorataFC:
so, they don't fast in Saudi or in Qatar?

Unfortunately, you don't have as much resources as these people have onna head to head basis. You realistically can't afford the same luxury. Even as that, they are using the money they have to build build build and build and turn their country into a paradise, compare then with Northern Nigeria.

Penalty82:
What's your business if I decide to fast for 100 days?. Are you the one paying their bills?. Do you think you're better than those fasting?.

Then don't complain when your country is not moving forward. What's my business, 24 hrs electricity, good security, clean environment, law and order, access to the best healthcare etc, may be I am better than them.

majekdom2:
who is the "you" that you know is praying for a car? Who is the person that you know is not working. Who is the you! Stop being critical. Do you own part, leave peopl with their beliefs. There are are thousand and one billionaires that will be part of the fast. RCCG is an institution in more than 190 nations... can this be ordinary whilst freeze is a man known in few states in a country. We should use our common sense here and not always follow what a silly man who wants attention says!

Yes, I was once in an RCCG church in Europe and I left in shame. They still cater to people with some kind of mentality, 101% Africans. People were giving testimonies about how they got asylum through devious means, how they didn't merit their papers but by passed the system. Pastors were enticing the people to come to the church with promise of arranging illegal marriages. You won't see a single white soul in the church, most of those churches still cater to Nigerians and may be some Africans. Still same ole same ole. Don't learn from working countries... Just stay there, your miracle is on the way....

deebrain:
Freeze.

You will really be disgraced. And you and all that support you will be destroyed suddenly.

We will come back after your disgrace and destruction to look at your posts on nairaland like we are presently doing with MMM.

Then you will know that you stepped on the wrong foot.

Mark these words.

I thought Jesus said you should pray for your enemies and love your enemies? In fact, he mentioned it as one of the most important commandments.
That being said, read his words and reflect on it, check where he is wrong and where he is right and take corrections. Even Paul criticised many fellow apostles even peter, the rock on which the church was built.

Sadly true.
People should be told the truth!
The time we spend hunting for miracles, we should rather use that time to make our country a better place. People need tinknow that things don't happen magically. Even the bible noted that faith without works is dead, its a combination of a faith as small as a mustard seed and a whole lot of work. While you are busy praying to get a car magically, do you know the average citizen in the west and far east are sweating it out in a factory somewhere? People are in labs doing active research on how to improve, guys are working in the harsh winter weather developing apps, the IT personnel are busy developing intelligent computers, while you have already spend 50 days out of the lil time you have hunting for miracles. Prayer is powerful but more work is better!

ajebuter:
He is categorized as Native American (Amerindian)

No, he is half Samoan actually. Samoans are Polynesians, different from native Americans.

rentAcock:
This guy uses steroids to have muscles like that.

steroids? However, you have to understand that just using steroids doesn't automatically give you muscles like that, it takes endless efforts and time in the gym, not only pushing weights but also cardio.
That's being said, now that he is not actively wrestling, he doesn't have to be on the road 2-4-7, which gives wrestler little time to pump as much and that's why many wrestlers who are not really in the indies look more buff and more defined when retired especially if they already had that habit.
Genes also, he is part black, part Samoan, and his gene pool is Annoai, check out his relatives, Nia Jax, Rikishi, Umaga, Yokozuna, Roman Reigns, etc, they are all big, strong and tall. His father is black and not also a small man. I am not saying he might not be juicing but there are many other factors.

Netanyahu1:
Been there bro. Industries still outnumber hotels, except the core tourist towns where tourism is there source of income , like vegas and Florida. Of which owerri is not a tourist town or at least not yet.

The last time I checked these places were not in Europe bro. Go to Hamburg, Amsterdam, Munich, Berlin, London, Prague, then report back to me.
The hospitality sector is also an industry on its own, employing millions of people and with different sectors serving it. In most western countries, (they travel a whole lot) you don't just get into a town and pack your bag into an "old friend's house", you need a hotel. In fact, to meet up with this demands for cheaper or cost free alternatives, online platforms like couchsharing and AirBnB have become very popular in the past few years.

shekauvsbuhari:
stop dis shit. Kicc has bn doing this for donkey years.

How many people can testify that their wellbeing had been bettered as a result of this? Why is it hitting the media just today after all the 'donkey years'? Point out the media outlets.. And if you claim that they don't publicise it, tell me how this information was able to reach 17k widows as claimed? Or why did they decide to publicise it now?

Netanyahu1:
They might as well turn owerri to Las Vegas if they can. Hotels is owerri now irritating.

If you think so, then come to an average European city, then repeat that again.

Good!
Nigerians will have to understand that when there exist constructive criticism, its all for the best. If it were before, that money would have been used to acquire more needless luxuries just for the sake of dick measuring.
Now, instead of gathering them and receiving them to hunt for miracles that doesn't exist, at least he is showing love by empowering them to financial freedom and prosperity.
Even your app developers will ask for ratings and constructive fedbacks. That's how they notice flaws and become better, nothing to be ashamed of.

Bigsteveg:
You totally made alot of sense and i commend you for the way you put your response, it shows clearly how matured u are.
However i clearly disagree with you, no matter the tribe or religion, taking care of our kids is the number 1 priority, that is why God gave them to us. Also, bride price is not a true test of a man ability in taking care of a woman. What if he turns a woman beater?
This tradition needs to be addressed, the son in law is already a family and like a son to them, no need to extort him.

And also, nobody can ever recoup the money spent of a child, you cant. so its baseless trying to collect school fees money from the bride price. What happened to the male child, how is he supposed to pay his own school fees money back?

Do you know that Igbo men will also go out of their family to observe the same traditions when they marry from another Igbo family? No one is extorting from you. People within the ethnic group know how to negotiate things down and make compromises.
Igbo men who marry within the tribe do not have a problem with the culture why then are people outside the ethnic group fighting to change the culture? Its like a rite of passage and very important to us, if you are from outside the ethnic group and not okay with this, you can equally go for the other pretty women outside the ethnic group but we can't change our culture to satisfy you when the Igbo men have observed this rite for centuries.
I'm sorry if you have an eye on one of our sisters, its best you go with an elderly friend an Igbo man will be better. In most cases, its the community rites and ceremony that shoot the price up and not the immediate family and you don't even need a white wedding or any other wedding to be recognized as a son-in-law.

grandstar:
You seem to support this practice by your choice of words.

i really don't know whether to condemn the girl as she did it for public service even to her own detriment. It isn't easy to tell the world you're in debt blah blah blah.

Im sure she must have voiced some complaint either verbally or through body language which must have fallen on deaf ears of her father due to what Jesus called the deceptive power of riches.

i appreciate her courage and mettle.

The Igbo men who marry their fellow Igbo women do not have a single problem with this, why are you so bothered? I believe there are other 200 ethnic groups where you can marry for free, just simply go there and stop bothering Igbo people. No one put a bullet in your head to marry nah!

GavelSlam:
So you want to claim you know more than Rewane?

So Rewane is above mistakes? Even someone with elementary knowledge of economics will know that the indices used are pure bullshit man.
This is the problem with Nigerians, you don't ask questions because they are coming from "elders".

Be it far from me to hate but this "report" from Financial Derivatives company is an insult to all the people who taught Economics.
How do you measure wealth? Wealth is measured by these indices: GDP per capita and GDP.
However some other indices like personal income, distribution and people living above poverty line is also great.
Then of course I checked again to see who compiled the list, then it was a small private consultant in VI and ALL in board members and 99% of the staff are from that region. Just Google them. If they had said Ogun state, I would understand but poverty ridden Osun, common!

Nawao!
Africans, anything light skinned is beautiful while over in the West, the darker you are, the more attractive they perceive you to be.

... .. Then he goes home to this kind of famine.

sonsomegrigbo:
Daddy Frz is working ooooo!

One sheep is freed...
Let me park here and watch events unfold

I had my convictions way way long before freeze came out with it. Long long ago, I had a debate with my mum about this.

Facts on Tithing
by Pastor Ken Lawson

1. Many Christian churches preach tithing as a means of supporting the work of the Lord today. There are many variations of this theme. Some pay the local church one tenth of their income after taxes and bills are paid; some pay before. Others demand tithing on unemployment, inheritance, gifts, tax refunds, social security and even gambling winnings. The tithing issue has caused a great deal of strife and division in our churches over the years.

2. The most well known passage on tithing comes from the Old Testament book of Malachi 3:7-10. This Scripture has given rise to the practice of “Storehouse Tithing.” Simply stated, the congregation is exhorted from the pulpit to channel all of their Christian giving through the local church (storehouse). If they wish to give to a Christian organization, radio or television broadcast, etc., it must go through their denominational machinery in order for the local church to get “credit.” Also the pastor and elders often must make the determination if the cause supported by the giver is “worthy.”

3. This use of the Malachi passage is a good example of Scripture being taken out of its historical and dispensational context. “This whole nation” in verse 9 is the backslidden nation of Israel, NOT the present day church (Malachi 1:1; 3:6). They were under the law of Moses as a system of conditional blessing. Believers today are not under the law but under grace (Romans 6:14). As such we have already been blessed by God with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ (Ephesians 1:3) and are under a system of unconditional blessing with grace on the throne (Romans 5:21).

4. This should put an end to the common charge that believers who don’t tithe are “robbing God” and will be “cursed with a curse.” The storehouse mentioned in verse 10 is not a local church but a storage bin or silo in the Jewish temple where the grain from the Hebrew’s tithes was stored (2 Chronicles 31:4-12).

5. Under the law only agricultural products were tithed. They included grain, fruit, and livestock. Only products produced within the boundaries of the land of Israel were to be tithed. Jews living in Gentile lands were exempt (Leviticus 27:30-34).

6.Others exempt from the tithing law included the hired hands, fishermen, miners, lumber workers, construction workers, soldiers, weavers, potters, manufacturers, merchants, government workers, and priests. In short, all who were not farmers were exempt.

7.A farmer with only 9 cattle did not tithe because the law specified the “tenth which passeth under the rod.” Likewise a farmer with 19 sheep paid only 1 sheep to the Lord’s tithe.

8. The Jewish farmers in the land could redeem (buy back) the tithes of their crops with a penalty of one fifth. In other words, if a farmer wishes to keep his tithe of grain worth $1,000, he could pay the cash equivalent of $1,200 (Leviticus 27:31).

9.Livestock could not be brought back nor could the farmer exchange a good animal for a bad one or vice versa. Any attempt to substitute any other animal other than the tenth which passed under the rod would be penalized by the farmer forfeiting both the tenth and its substitute (Leviticus 27:33).

10.God ordained the Levites to be the ones to whom the tithe was paid (Numbers 18:21). They were one of the 12 tribes of Israel to whom no inheritance was given in the land. The Lord Himself and the tithes of the children of Israel was their inheritance. It was used for the service of the tabernacle (later the temple) (Numbers 18:20-28).

11. It was unlawful for anyone outside of the tribe of Levi to receive the tithe, such as prophets, preachers, kings or evangelists.

12. The Levites paid one tenth of their tithes to the high priest. Not all Levites were priests but only the sons of Aaron. The priests did not tithe.

13. The Lord Jesus Christ did not ask for or receive a tithe for support of His ministry. Being of the tribe of Judah (not Levi) He could not without breaking the law (Hebrews 7:14; Revelation 5:5).
Neither Peter (not of the tribe of Levi) nor Paul (of the tribe of Benjamin) could receive tithes for the support of their ministries.

14. Even the Jews do not practice tithing today because there are no Levites, priests, or temple worship in Jerusalem. Jewish rabbis know biblical law well enough to know that tithing under the present circumstances is unlawful. According to them, when the temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem with a consecrated altar with priests and Levites officiating, all Jews living within the biblical tithing zones will tithe.

15. Some Christian ministries today continue to support tithing, using the argument that it predates Moses and the law. But this reasoning is not valid, for the Sabbath also predates the giving of the law (Exodus 16:23-29) and yet it is not binding on God’s people today (Romans 14:5,6; Galatians 4:9,10; Colossians 2:16,17).

17. According to Deuteronomy 14:22,23,28; 26:12; and Amos 4:4, the tithe was only given every three years. Abraham gave tithes to Melchisedec, king of Salem, but this was the spoils of war, not the legalistic tithe of the land which Moses commanded. Also, God did not command the tithe, Abraham chose to give it of his own free will (Genesis 14:17-23; Hebrews 7:1-10).

18. The only other scriptural reference to tithing before Moses is Jacob. Again there is no command to tithe. In fact Jacob puts up numerous conditions to be met before he will pay the tithe to the Lord (Genesis 28:20-22).

19. The biblical references which address the tithing issues are: Genesis 14:20; 28:22; Leviticus 27:30-32; Numbers 18:20-28; Deuteronomy 12:6,11,17; 14:22,23,28; 26:12; 2 Chronicles 31:5,6,12; Amos 4:4; Malachi 3:8-10; Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42; 18:12; Hebrews 7:5-9. 1

20. Paul the apostle to the Gentiles for this present dispensation of Grace does not mention tithing but says a great deal about Christian giving. Romans 15:25,26; 1 Corinthians 9:7-14; 16:1-3; 2 Corinthians chapters 8 & 9; Galatians 6:6-10; Philippians 4:10-19; 1 Timothy 5:9-18.

WHO is to give to the Lord’s work? The Christian! He gives systematically, sacrificially, and joyfully. TO WHOM does he give? To Christ! FOR WHAT does he give? For the cause of Christ! NOT to a man or to a church, not for gain, but for the Gospel.

Notes:

According to Deuteronomy 14:22,23,28; 26:12; and Amos 4:4, the tithe was only given every three years

Source:
https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/facts-on-tithing/

Organs:
That is why you are discredited and not taken seriously. You support criminals if he is ibo. Stella Oduah and Ken Nnamani are all innocent. No wonder you voted corrupt GEJ and see where it landed you. By the way, Kanu don shut up oh...

Just like st. Thiefnunbu and Gani Adams are your supreme leaders today? Abeg go rest with your hypocrisy. If they don't celebrate now, you will also come out to claim that they don't love each other.

Crappy journalism from the OP, none of the picture was titled or tagged. Poor poor!!

TruePass:
Grandpa! I go stop now.

Big teeth dem don save u like this.

Make i no see u for my dream oo

I go enter flight, come find u for niaja.

I took one curious look to see how angelic you must look, insulting someone like that, I then realised you can't even focus on the camera properly because of the disconnected awkwardness that is the positions of your eyeballs/pupils. I don't usually insult people with beauty altering deformities as no one is perfect but I had to remind you that those who live in glass houses don't throw stones.
Before you take the bait to push further insults, do some research, I don't suffer fools hardly.
Peace!

TruePass:
Abeg go sleep, make i drive enter club no wetin the happen.

Worwor girl bye.

Boy! Leave the girl alone. You are a guy and should know when to stop. Tender your apologies and move on.
Rolex67, I apologize on his behalf, shield your sword! You are pretty, you exude beauty. Your eyes sparkle with love, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

In Nigeria, we don't deal with facts. "Shortest" and 'tallest' but no numerical values. How tall and how short?

Ofemannnu:
lol..where did you get this from?


Agbada
Encyclopedia of Clothing and Fashion
COPYRIGHT 2005 The Gale Group, Inc.
AGBADA
Agbada is a four-piece male attire found
among the Yoruba of southwestern
Nigeria and the Republic of Benin, West
Africa. It consists of a large, free-flowing
outer robe (awosoke ), an undervest
(awotele), a pair of long trousers (sokoto ),
and a hat (fìla ). The outer robe—from
which the entire outfit derives the name
agbada, meaning "voluminous attire"—is a
big, loose-fitting, ankle-length garment. It
has three sections: a rectangular
centerpiece, flanked by wide sleeves.


http://www.encyclopedia.com/fashion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/agbada-0

There we go again with information from the open web. Look for something more authentic bro. Do some peer reviewed academic research on kaftan. Or even something from a reliable source.

hotwax:
No tell us agbada associated with Igbo. Twist history as usual

Nigerians and ignorance, the generic name is "Kaftan" and its origin is not from Nigeria! Go out to the world, travel a bit and educate yourself!

Danladi7:
please tell us the origin!

The generic word itself is called, "Kaftan", which is an Arabic word. Showing that it was associated with middle eastern culture However, with variations. In west Africa, including Nigeria the fashion was first made popular in Senegal/Mali which was probably introduced through the trans Saharan trade. The Kaftan was for decades or even centuries first popular in Northern Nigeria before reaching down south to the Yorubas
Mind you you can argue that there are slight differences but that's the beauty of the Kaftan, different cultures have made modifications to it.

hotwax:
Igbo people always poking nose in someone else culture. They are so fake. They dont cherish their own culture

Soon they will say, they created Agbada..

Lack of knowledge of history and culture outside of Nigeria is the problem of y'all. And who told you that the clothing concept of agbada came from Nigeria? Oh! Lemme crush your innocence, it didn't!!

Femi should just do a clean shave and go bald, may be leave some beards, he will look younger and better. I know its hard to let go especially whenever he reminisces about his younger years with his good head of hair. His hairline right now is on life support. Let it go! Let it go!