Islam › Re: How The Quran Led Me To Jesus Christ by Ekrenji: 3:03pm On Nov 11, 2022 |
ANTllSLAAM: Did you know more than allah is the question I didn’t ask the question. I only appreciated your comment |
Crime › Re: Ifeanyi: Davido’s Nanny, Cook May Face Charges For Negligence by Ekrenji: 7:13pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
It’s so sad! |
Islam › Re: How The Quran Led Me To Jesus Christ by Ekrenji: 6:11pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
ANTllSLAAM: Are you all knowing than your god allah that said Jesus is alive in Quran Surat Maryam 19:33-34? Thanks |
Islam › Re: How The Quran Led Me To Jesus Christ by Ekrenji: 6:10pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
2dominate: According to the Quran Jesus is dead and yes the bible verse is about Muhammad saw. Where in the Quran this dey abeg |
Islam › Re: The Admission Of One Spouse To Paradise Does Not Necessarily Mean.... by Ekrenji: 9:34pm On Nov 01, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv: Because you won't be born without the input of your mum! That is called reproduction and it’s necessary for mortals to reproduce. Of what essence is sexual intercourse in your heaven |
Islam › Re: The Admission Of One Spouse To Paradise Does Not Necessarily Mean.... by Ekrenji: 7:13pm On Oct 30, 2022 |
ANTllSLAAM: That is what we read in their glorious hadith and quran respectively How come the whole thing revolves around sex and women? |
Politics › Re: Atiku Speaks As He Arrives The United States (Pictured) by Ekrenji: 12:38pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
ochejoseph: On arrival in Washington, D.C, Atiku tweeted this message:
"I just arrived in Washington, D.C, for meetings and engagements to build an economically stronger and more secure Nigeria! -AA"
Atiku is in the United states at the Invitation of the United States Chamber Of Commerce. During this trip, H.E Atiku will be involved in bilateral meetings with US Officials.
*Under An Atiku Presidency Our Passports Will Be Respected!
*Under An Atiku Presidency Our People Will No Longer Be Disgraced At Airports!
*Under An Atiku Presidency Our Nation Will Rise & Take Her Rightful Place Among The Committee of Nations!
May God Bless The Federal Republic Of Nigeria
Dr. Oche Otorkpa (FRSPH-UK)
https://twitter.com/atiku/status/1585756150460428290?t=u0g53afEZvN6UQukapEbuw&s=19[/quote]Where are the “Atiku cannot enter US” gang? |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Donates ₦20 Million As Church Marks 100 Years Anniversary by Ekrenji: 12:37pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
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Islam › Re: The Admission Of One Spouse To Paradise Does Not Necessarily Mean.... by Ekrenji: 12:36pm On Oct 28, 2022 |
ANTllSLAAM: This is what you should expect in jannah This is unbelievable |
Politics › Re: Kwankwaso Supporters Burn NNPP Logo, Red Caps In Kano, Endorse Atiku (Video) by Ekrenji: 5:36pm On Sep 03, 2022 |
Stop fighting for politicians! |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Challenge To All Witches/wizards/black Magicians/spiritualists by Ekrenji: 8:17am On Sep 03, 2022 |
Templee333: i'm still waiting to hear ur spiritual experiences https://www.nairaland.com/3633308/seeing-angels-malaikaPeople have shared their spiritual experiences here, you can contact anyone of them if you wish to go through the journey of demonic experience. Your life won’t remain the same after. You will see and commune with demons then you will realize that this world is deep! |
Education › Re: ASUU Declares Indefinite Strike, Plans Increased Media Engagement by Ekrenji: 6:11am On Aug 30, 2022 |
This is definitely not a good news for the Nigerian students. |
Food › Re: My Experience Eating Amala At A Popular Eatery In Ibadan by Ekrenji: 7:30pm On Aug 24, 2022 |
This is hilarious. Sorry for not asking the right question |
Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 5:38pm On Aug 23, 2022 |
AntiChristian: The revelation comes as directed by Allah through the Angel Gabriel from the mouth of our honoured prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam. The opening chapter is as Allah wills it to be. So Allah spoke to Angel Gabriel whom in turn spoke to Mohammed? That implies that the Quran you said was wholly from Allah is the words of Angel Gabriel. Why should Allah not have communicated directly to Mohammed? While you’re trying to refute the claim that Allah was praying in the first chapter of the Quran you are digging more holes for yourself. Allah wills to pray to be guided to the straight path? That is ridiculous |
Politics › Re: Festus Keyamo: I Can Drive From Abuja To Kaduna Without Security by Ekrenji: 5:33pm On Aug 23, 2022 |
Keyamo should go ahead and do it |
Politics › Re: Nigerian Oil And The Disappearing Money ( Aljazeera Report ) by Ekrenji: 7:34pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
Who are the big men behind our oil theft? |
Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 7:20pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Don't be a hypocrite! Where is the consistence in Matthew's writing? Matthew was not present when Jesus was born! He was not present with Jesus till Matthew 9:9. Where did he get the info he wrote before he met Jesus? I notice that you don’t apply the same logic to your religion. You wrote up there that the Quran is wholly Allah’s words, can you read the first chapter of the Quran for us and tell us why Allah is worshipping himself, and praying to be guided to the straight path? And as for the people of the Book Ahlul Kitab (People of the Book) consist of both believers and disbelievers, as indicated in the Quran, where Allah the Almighty mentions the disbelievers among them (interpretation of the meaning):
"O people of the Scripture!: Why do you disbelieve in the verses [about Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)] of Allah, while you (yourselves) bear witness (to their truth)." (Al ‘Imraan, 3:70)
And:
"Say: O people of the Scripture! Why do you stop those who believe from the path of Allah, seeking to make it crooked, while you (yourselves) are witnesses? And Allah is not unaware of what you do". (Al ‘Imran, 3:99)
And Allah, the Almighty, said about the believers among them, making clear the difference between them and the aforementioned (interpretation of the meaning):
"Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of Allah during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right and forbid evil and they hasten in good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knows well those who are the pious." (Al ‘Imran, 3:113-115)
These people also believe in our Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and the Quran which was revealed to him as mentioned (approximate translation of meanings is):
"And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture, those who believe in Allah and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before Allah. They do not sell the Verses of Allah for a little price, for them is a reward from their Lord. Surely, Allah is swift in account." (Al ‘Imran, 3:199)
Are modern Christians among Ahul Kitab?
The disbelief of the disbelieving People of the Scripture, that include Jews and Christians, in our times does not expel them from being People of the Scripture. So, the rules and regulations related to them regarding permissibility of eating their food and marrying their chaste women, in the Quran and Sunnah, are still applicable to them. None of the verses you posted above indicates that other people apart from the Christians and the Jews are called the people of the Book. The Book is Biblio aka Bible! |
Sports › Re: Anthony Joshua Congratulates Usyk, Apologizes For His Unruly Act by Ekrenji: 10:48pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Aj be man, win some lose some |
Politics › Re: Kanu Directed Cancelation Of Sit-at-home, Not You, IPOB Tells Uzodimma by Ekrenji: 10:45pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Let peace reign biko |
Celebrities › Re: Kizz Daniel: This Is The Most Handsome Musician In Nigeria! (Photos) by Ekrenji: 10:44pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Buga o |
Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 10:43pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
AntiChristian: I asked you a question about Matthew which you are earnestly trying to divert away from. Try and answer it.
Allah is our God and Lord. He speaks mainly in First and Third person pronoun! Human writers usually don't call their names and use Third person pronoun for themselves.
This available in the Bible. If you don't know what First and third person pronoun is you can google to learn!
And to say the Bible was being quoted is another big lie!
When was the Bible created? I have already answered your question. There was a consistent pattern in the manner of Matthew’s writing but there were inconsistencies in that of Allah’s because many people must have written it yet to lay claim that the Quran is wholly from Allah. Bible means book it’s derived from the Greek word Biblio. Any time the people of the book are mentioned in the Quran, the Bible is the book being referred to |
Politics › Re: Unrelated Pictures Used To Falsely Depict Peter Obi's Demolition Of A Mosque by Ekrenji: 3:04pm On Aug 20, 2022 |
I pray fake news will not kee Nigerians |
Politics › Re: Supporters Organise One Million Match For Peter Obi In Owerri (Video) by Ekrenji: 3:02pm On Aug 20, 2022 |
Obediently useful |
Sports › Re: Kane Overtakes Aguero, Scores The Most Goals For One Premier League Club by Ekrenji: 3:01pm On Aug 20, 2022 |
He will surely improve significantly under Conte! Congratulations Harry |
Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 2:59pm On Aug 20, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Allah addresses Himself by name and using first and third person pronoun in the Qu'ran.
Show me where Matthew referred to himself by first person pronoun in the whole book of Matthew? That means Matthew a mere man was more consistent than Allah. The book of Matthew was written more than 5 centuries before the Quran was. Allah was using we, us, our for himself and he didn’t say “I am Allah your God” except in few places where he the writers of the Quran were quoting someone from the Bible In Quran 20:11-12 where the writers of the Quran quoted from the Bible in the book of Exodus 3:5-6 by inserting Allah into the sentence There is no where else in your Quran where Allah said “I am Allah your God” unless the writers were quoting from the Bible! If there is, tell me please. |
Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 9:06pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
AntiChristian: You can compare similar things and you will of course be right. But here your wrong. No time was a writer ever seen to mention himself in a write-up as if he wasn't referring to himself. Quran 95:8- “is not Allah the most of just of judges “ Allah the writer is mentioning himself here Quran 86:8- “Indeed, Allah, to return him [to life] is able” Quran 2:9- “They [think to] deceive Allah*** Quran 1:2- “All praise to Allah” |
NYSC › Re: The Massive Corruption At The Government Hospital Where I Did My NYSC: Ex Corper by Ekrenji: 11:50am On Aug 16, 2022 |
The rot in the system is alarming, look at how the govt is losing revenues into private pockets! |
Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 11:46am On Aug 16, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Seems you get sense!
Hadiths is different from Qur'an in that Hadith can be authenticated. Authentication means tracing the hadith to find out the possibility of it being true or not! The Qur'an is true and from Allah wholly.
The narrators are mentioned in Hadiths and the chains of person is mentioned till it gets to the Prophet.
This is not available in the case of the Bible.
Matthew never wrote this, did he? And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him. Matthew 9:9.
And Mark & Luke didn't say who there sources of information were (Like the hadiths you mentioned).
See Luke's starting verses Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught. Luke 1:1-4.
Lastly how do we reconcile these: 1.Jesus before the Pilate Matthew 27:11-14 11 Now Jesus stood before the governor. And the governor asked Him, saying, “Are You the King of the Jews?”
Jesus said to him, “It is as you say.” 12 And while He was being accused by the chief priests and elders, He answered nothing.
13 Then Pilate said to Him, “Do You not hear how many things they testify against You?” 14 But He answered him not one word, so that the governor marveled greatly.
2.Jesus before the Pilate Mark 15:1-3
Immediately, in the morning, the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council; and they bound Jesus, led Him away, and delivered Him to Pilate. 2 Then Pilate asked Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?”
He answered and said to him, “It is as you say.”
3 And the chief priests accused Him of many things, but He answered nothing. 4 Then Pilate asked Him again, saying, “Do You answer nothing? See how many things they testify against You!” 5 But Jesus still answered nothing, so that Pilate marveled.
3.Jesus before the Pilate Luke 23:1-3
Then their whole assembly rose up and brought him before Pilate. 2 They began to accuse him, saying, “We found this man misleading our nation, opposing payment of taxes to Caesar, and saying that he himself is the Messiah, a king.”
3 So Pilate asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?”
He answered him, “You say so.”
4.Jesus before the Pilate (Note John adding graphics to the script!) John 18:33-37 33 Pilate then went back inside the palace, summoned Jesus and asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?”
34 “Is that your own idea,” Jesus asked, “or did others talk to you about me?”
35[b] “Am I a Jew?” Pilate replied. “Your own people and chief priests handed you over to me. What is it you have done?[/b]”
36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
37[b] “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.[/b]
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” If you and I are to report the same event we won’t give exactly the same account, so slight differences are allowed in peoples reports of issues. It happens in your hadiths too where there were contrasting things said by different people about Mohammed’s speech or actions him saying you should not back the Kaaba while answering the call of nature and doing the same etc Regarding Matthew, Luke and John mentioning themselves in their books, who knows if that was the style of writing that time? The Quran that you said is wholly from Allah is guilty of the same too. Allah is always reporting himself as if Mohammed or another person is the one writing the Quran. Speeches like “He is Allah” instead of “I am Allah” etc Concerning the supposed contradictions, there are multiple in your Quran so don’t follow that path. Why should a book u said it is wholly from Allah have so many contradictions? |
Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 10:58am On Aug 14, 2022 |
AntiChristian: So then the Christians too lied by claiming Matthew, Mark, Luke and John gospels! If Jesus preached the gospel or good news then the good news should be one not four different accounts!
Your Jesus said in John 5:30 or so, that he can of himself do nothing! He judge as he hear...
Those things he did were as was revealed to him. Gospel according to… John, Matthew etc They reported the gospel Jesus preached The same way you have different narrators of Mohammed’s sayings (hadiths) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Some People Laughed At Me When My Son Died by Ekrenji: 10:53am On Aug 14, 2022*. Modified: 11:10am On Aug 14, 2022 |
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Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 11:36pm On Aug 13, 2022 |
AntiChristian: You should get the gist except if you want to be cynical. I want to write a book! That's a sentence. The book never existed! But I want to write it. It is nt the same. Mohammed just got things mixed up, he had tot that Moses, David and Jesus were actually given books so he tot he was given a book called the Quran too. Jesus never claimed to have been given any book, he said he came to preach the good news (gospel). Gospel is not book |
Islam › Re: When Did Allah Say The Bible Was Corrupted And How? by Ekrenji: 2:20pm On Aug 11, 2022 |
IslamVIRGlNS: Can anyone tell us when exactly the Bible became corrupted
Was it before Mohammed, during the lifetime of Mohammed or after the death of Mohammed. Becos Muhammed never made such a claim, even at the time of revealing the Quran, he said people of the gospel should judge by what is revealed therein “And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allāh has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allāh has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.” Sura 5:47 |