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Thanks for that, mikeansy.

13volts, senseless reasoning like this that causes you to form false equivalences between events in Nigeria and terrorism committed by BH will one day get you and your entire people in serious trouble.

Tread very carefully.

manny4life:
Haba, where you not the same person who quoted according to a Reuters or Bloomberg's articles about two months ago that Lagos population was about 18million latest @ $3,000 per capita? This same population you disputed that the 15 million estimate wasn't accurate, however, wasn't that how they arrived at $54billion? How come is the same population floating roughly about 20 million?

The goal is not an exact #, but a ballpark estimate.

I'm choosing extremely round figures to make the calculations easier. 500/20 is easier to calculate than 492 divided by 18 point whatever. . .

Just google around, you'll find the articles you seek that discusses where the money is coming from. Or browse my old posts on this forum

Wetin concern southern leaders in general (e.g., the governor of Ondo) with an intra-ethnic conflict in Ebonyi state?

Again, kindly explain why the governor of Ondo or Delta is compelled to concern himself with this any more than the governor of Zamfara.

Population is roughly 20 million. Is N25,000 per head in annual budget really that high? That is about $164.

Akwa Ibom for example will have a similar budget, yet has 1/4 of the population.

It is higher of course per capita than all of the non-oil producing states. But not impressive in an absolute sense. At least in my opinion.

5K not realistic, when 50K is probably what is needed

Very useless country

Not to mention that as far as religious purity goes, a H-F probably knows better than try that around the ethnic elite of that religion, the Arabs

Small pikin (Hausa-Fulani) recognizes who the oga is (Arab.)

Of what use is this so-called religious purity of Hausa-Fulani if it leads to poverty, illiteracy, polio, etc?

For me religion should uplift people, not burden them. And it isn't clear to me that Islam in the north is anything but a burden (not just to them, but to others.)

What does this have to do with southern leaders?

Kindly explain.

I hope you are not trying to compare this incident to BH terrorism. That would be extremely foolish.

lmao ya'll killin me

Heh. Kano most populous state, lol.

I have never understood this "Lagos is overpopulated" reasoning. Let Lagos decide for itself what it wants the population to be, lol.

Anyway, overpopulated or not, investment is beneficial.

manny4life:
When is the FG gonna hands off the refinery industry? This is really sick and pathetic, govt trying to control "EVERYTHING" is the reason for this corruption and inefficiency of our industries. Like seriously, it's about time they hands off from refinery and electricity and leave it up to the private sector.

Isn't 80% of the funding for these refineries coming from the Chinese? And supposedly some of the remaining 20% they want to source from the private sector.

If it was FG money being used for the lion's share, then your point would make sense.

What is the origin of the dispute though? Ife-Modakeke I know a tiny bit about (a nearly 200 year issue), but this one is news to me.

Clashes between rival ethnic groups in eastern Nigeria's Ebonyi state on Saturday killed at least 50 people, the state government spokesman said, and police said mobile units had been sent to the state to quell the violence.

Wow. All this wahala in Nigeria. . .

Yep, she is hilarious

Ian Mahinmi had a great night off the bench for Dallas.

PhysicsQED:
No problem. If you can find it, R.E. Bradbury's 1957 book gives a very thorough survey of all of the "Edoid" ethnic groups of the former Midwest - their traditions, methods of social organization, religious beliefs, etc. and it's highly detailed and informative. Bradbury's book is not available online unfortunately.

From all available written information, there is nowhere in Edo north that is "Nupoid", although there must definitely be some people of originally Nupe descent there. Edo north is thoroughly "Edoid" with a few exceptions.

Interesting enough, I actually own a copy of that book. But haven't yet read it.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=835133.msg9867635#msg9867635 date=1325302472]you still shouldnt discount the little information they can give you.[/quote]Agreed.

@tpia: This is something I'm fairly certain that my parents or grandparents would not know. None of them are historians, nor are we connected to Edo or Nupe in any meaningful way. But on stuff they would know, I ask them.

PhysicsQED:
The parts of R.E. Bradbury's 1957 book that refer to Etsako and Ivbiosakon history and traditions do mention the Nupe invasion, though not in great detail.

Here's a link with some references to written work by others on the Nupe invasions (under the part "Kukuruku Wars"

http://www.edo-nation.net/edoconf2.htm

You can follow up the references cited for specifics, of course. I think there are some errors in that article though.


Here's another article written by somebody from Edo north:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:kMC26g-lnxEJ:www.unilorin.edu.ng/publications/zioseni/The%2520Islamisation%2520of%2520Auchi%2520Kingdom.doc+islamic+scholarship+nupe+edo&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESh5jVYnuCIrRnfCOxJvWpOndjS4J5gJQtMLrjUqLsJWJQFGgf2aGptha1C35EyXZjWNDiib0HrVmhtS_rkZ-OL-kCOR5WbwmZW9USqOX8G7odtbyVgiimQ_Byk5ch_tEfiTpAZE&sig=AHIEtbQeAvFFK8Vz2bzRDMqzY6ECepyb_g

Nice, thanks. I'll take a look.

tpia, if you can point me to a good reference on this Nupe/Edo connection, I'd appreciate it. I searched around on Jstor (a bit clumsily) but wasn't able to find anything. Even just the name of a significant figure would be enough (say a king or general), I can find the rest once I have that.

I like this.

A UN supervised referendum and peaceful split is the best way to handle the situation.

hercules07, the point is that whether I do or not is irrelevant. . . the mobs will still form and people will still be angry and act upon their anger if BH strikes.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=835133.msg9865597#msg9865597 date=1325270090]Some parts of edo are northern inclined.

They are nupoid and/or ebiroid.[/quote]What is the story behind this? I've heard/read a bit of Nupe somehow influencing Edo area I suppose long ago, but don't know how exactly it happened.

Whoever said there is no such thing as a dumb question lied.

Heh.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that.

Perhaps study recent history very well and then answer that question yourself.

There will of course be casualties on both sides in any incident. But when someone outnumbers you massively and is thirsty for your blood, the casualties tend to be lopsided.

There is no bragging. Simply a pretty good prediction of what will happen.

If this happens, then every aboki man, woman and child's life in Lagos is forfeit.

Angry mob violence is a terrible thing.

It will make the previous Sagamu incident look like a stroll in the park.

One of the few times bigotry has proved beneficial, heh.

Good.

I guess there is this hypothesis that oil-rich states attract corruption. Yet given the amount that Bayelsa brings in annually, can't you be very corrupt and still making an impact?

I honestly do not know what the reason is.

No problem. Always my pleasure correcting cowardly id[i]i[/i]ots like yourself.

Lol.

Less time spent editing other people's posts and being a general douchebag, more time editing your own posts correctly and learning how to spell "loser."

Pro-tip: Looser is used as in, "ACM10's family was surprised to find out that his occupation involves wiping the yansh and cleaning up after the aged with bowels looser than that of most folk."

While Sylva was hiring militants, Godswill Akpabio was transforming his state into one of the best in Nigeria.

Smh