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I'm highly disappointed in the house of reps. bleh

How is this relevant to any of the issues at hand?

4. We have stores like Walmart and Safeway. Compare the price of bread in the US to that in Nigeria. Or chicken. Or beef. If you go to the right stores, you can always get your food cheaper than it costs in Nigeria.
2. Many might, but do most? Probably not. Anyway, the nice thing about America is that you can even work as a cab driver and still send your kids to university. Can you work at the bottom of society in Nigeria and hope for your children to go to the top of society in one generation? Not really. But in the US, this can happen. So many stories of the 1st generation guy doing something lowly like being a shop keeper, cab driver, etc but his children becoming medical doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc.
3. If you take out loans for a good program that pays a lot of money, then you'll be able to pay off your loans. Imagine taking out a loan to go to a top 10 law/mba school for example. It will easily pay off over the course of your lifetime.
1. The US debt relative to GDP is still much lower than most other countries in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt

36th on the list (58.9%). Better off than Japan (225.8%), Greece, Italy, Singapore (102.4%), Germany (78.8%), Ireland, France (83.5%), UK (76.5%), Spain, Netherlands.

Basically, there are very few countries better off than the US. Maybe oil-rich Norway, Monaco, or certain countries like that.

But Nigeria? Definitely not (and not trying to offend anyone, just being realistic).

Dede1:
The gauge of application of wealth you posted within the regions during the time in question was more academics than substance with respect to cash crop such as cocoa. Timber contributed more to the winded wealth of the western region than cocoa.

Timber?  Hehe, do you even believe these lies that you are writing? You've made this claim, back it up with data. Note that I can prove it wrong myself with data from this aforementioned book, but first let's even see whether you've pulled this out of your @ss or not.

Remember that Lagos was official British colonial headquarter and housed most of British, European and American economic establishments.

Hehe. That was the GDP/capita of the Western Region, not Lagos, which was a separate municipality.

During the same period in the 50s, eastern region was quietly ascending the ladder of wealth. One wonders where the so-called wealth of western region was stored when Shell D’arcy requested capital to continue the exploration of crude oil in southern protectorate about 1951. Ironically western region and Awolowo pleaded poverty to the cause of continuous crude oil exploration in the protectorate. However, when eastern region was declared the most priced estate in the entire British Empire after 1956, Awolowo and western region went to work to destabilize it.

Hehe. Oil is all that the East has of value. 95% found outside of the SE zone. You are incorrect in stating that Awo attempted to destabilize it. But by the end of the of the civil war, with the oil-rich territories carved away from Biafra, that was the end result anyway, yes?

Anyway, you guys can continue to parambulate as much as you like. #s do not lie 

1. Debt is optional. It is a sign of the US's strength over Nigeria, actually. In Nigeria, everything you must either pay cash down or borrow at very high interest rates to pay for. Here you can borrow at low interest rates. Which means a poor man can get a college/law school/mba/etc education and move up in life.
There is more class mobility in the US than in Nigeria.
2. Who works 12 hr shifts in the US? Not that many.
3. You are right about degrees, but that is the nature of things. Unfortunately, Nigerian degrees aren't worth very much in the rest of the world (not just the US), so you'll not be gifted a job w/o reproving yourself.
4. US is actually a cheaper place to live than Nigeria. Food prices, clothing, autos, homes, etc all cheaper. Only thing cheaper in Nigeria is labor.
5. Cultural issues is a problem, I agree.

You guys are high as a kite.

I repeat, you were as poor as the North per capita:
https://i54.tinypic.com/20usght.png

21 for North, 21 for East, 34 for West. 61% wealthier per capita than North or East.

Whether you want to blame some "Lagos factor" on this (as if you would have contributed much money to building Lagos before the time, given that your Eastern region had by far the smallest economy ) makes no difference to me.

In any case, in 1952, it is not even clear to me that the city was subsidized by the regions (at least if you subtract off port revenue).

You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

bashr4:
i didnt see any proof that the east was poor , you must be joking  i guess. anyways my family owns a big history library in enugu dating as far back as mid 1900s guess its time i take interest in them cus you people want to start rewritting history.

Stop being a fool. Take some time to read and comprehend what is written there. If you doubt what I say, then go buy a copy of that book mentioned and read through it. Or do some research of your own. Why do you think Awo could afford free education in the West but a similar measure failed in the East?

All boils down to money.

Awo tried his best, he threatened to secede when faced with this notion, but the Brits didn't allow it.

We'd have been better off going our 3 ways in the 50s rather than the present mess, imo

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=718381.msg8765347#msg8765347 date=1311310831]they've drugged the girl like there's no tomorrow.

lord have mercy and deliver these girls from wandering pr*cks.

hope it wasnt "open eye" that led the woman to these jaywalkers.[/quote]That is what it sounds like to me. A roofie or something, rather than magic.

As they say. . . "Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't."

Hehe.

Anybody else with notions they need me to disabuse them of?

bashr4:
you must be high eastern region was developed with both palm oil and coal , if east was poor then how was calabar ,ph,onitsha ,enugu , aba uyo, eket, developed? the east have never been a poor region and never will even today am sure you know the poverty statistics in nigeria.

Wrong. Eastern Region was as poor per capita as the North. See this post: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-699581.64.html#msg8641378

I also have a book on Nigerian economic data from 1960-1975. I could type out the table on palm oil revenues like I did for cocoa and rubber in this thread (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-688547.32.html), but I don't really feel like doing that right now.

Palm oil didn't generate very much cash, FYI.

Eastern Region was very poor before oil. As poor per capita as the north

Very evil dude

interesting

Hehe

Whoever said coup had it right

Healthcare workers, striking for 5 months? How many would have died or not received proper treatment as a result of this?

Nigerian unions take things too far

on JULY 21, 2011 · in NEWS

BY ENYIM ENYIM

ONITSHA – The health workers union in Anambra State, yesterday, threatened not to resume work unless the state government signed an agreement with it on payment of a new salary structure.

Workers of the union had been on strike for five months now over non-implementation of a new salary structure by the government.

Chairman of the union, Mr. Patrick Obianyo, told Vanguard that since the industrial dispute, the government had refused to negotiate with them on how to resolve the matter.

He said: ”This particular strike was avoidable but we were drawn into it because the state government did not want to see us and negotiate with us. The state government is insincere on this matter.”

Obianyo said government met with the union on June 29 and the union accepted the 40 per cent of the new salary being demanded, adding that the government reneged on its offer by not signing the agreement drawn up on July 1, 2011.

Meanwhile, Anambra State House of Assembly has set up a seven-man ad hoc committee to intervene and mediate on the strike.

The resolve by the lawmakers to intervene in the matter followed a motion by Chief Tony Uche of Idemili South and eight others.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/striking-anambra-health-workers-vow-to-continue/

Lol

So she is his boo on the side?

Hehe, guess a little nepotism probably won't kill Imo

hmm

still i dey laff

lmao

Good. The more investment the better!

Will be interesting to see. I thought Great Ogboru lost some petition recently though?

If labor wants to strike as a result of the 2K sacked workers, then imo Amosun should sack any who strike.

They are in no position to dictate to him who he hires and who he does not. These governors need to be more firm and not let labor push them around.

Yar'Adua and "rule of law." What a fraud.

In theory that may be the case, but in practice it was not.

Such is life.

These Somalis sound like hausa-fulani to me, but much worse. lol.