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ZnO:
Even one first-author article from Ngozi in 2007 published in The Lancet (impact Factor 33.6), which is comparable to Nature and Science (two of the very best in the world) is enough to get her into any Ivy League as a full prof, in addition, to her experience in real time.
She does not need to though, she earns better, and is far more visible, than any Ivy League prof in Economics.

You are a brainless dolt. It is a one page commentary on a series of papers written by others. This you think is enough to get a tenure track position at even a top 40 school?

Did you even open the paper and skim through it before concluding that it is sufficient?

lmao

ZnO:
Just like I do not care whether you believe that I am on tenure track. Shuo!!! You did not contribute (and could not have) to my being what I am today, so why should I care about you and what you think?, lying self-claiming maggot? You make me laugh.

Hehe. It cracks me up that you would dare call anyone else a liar or "self-claiming maggot", Nchara/mekus/igbobuigbo/etc. Have you no shame?

You are a joke, a sham, a fraud, and a mockery.

ZnO:
You now seek to turn the table. Please before you make this thread about me, first show your woman who is better than Ngozi
And no, I do not need to prove that I am an assistant professor on tenure track. I have said that before. Since I cannot say my name here, I guess you can believe me or not as you wish.

I'm not interested in making the thread about you. Just pointing out that you are a fraud.

And no, you can either accept what I've stated or disregard it. I don't much care either way.

No, sometimes you get kicked out early if you are doing that poorly. It is rare, but it happens.

And no, national labs doesn't pay much better at all. Certainly not enough for one to leave a good tenure-track position for a national lab.

Probably the reason you edited your post is because you are still postdoccing, yet wanted to misrepresent yourself as a prof (as you did before).

Why are you so fraudulent? Is fraud your middle name?

Which one u dey? Very fraudulent fellow

Na wa o, "all these claims indeed"

Caught in another lie, ZnO of many names?

ZnO:
Even I, I have been thinking lately of truncated my tenure track and moving onto working for the feds in one of the National Labs (please look up US National labs). Working where I might move on to in the West Coast is far more rewarding, with better pay, comparable to a Prof in Harvard, MIT etc.

Err. Or did you get denied tenure? Those federal jobs at the national labs don't pay much more than assistant prof salary, btw.

Hehe.

Limelite, indeed

BTW, those same publications which you need to graduate are the same ones which you need to then get a job. It isn't as if there are extra needed to get a job.

At any rate, we are done here, ZnO/nchara/mekus/igbobuigbo/akinegba/etc  

Roflmao

So because ZnO created the identities Nchara and mekus and pretended they were different people, he assumes that everyone else is doing the same.

Why do you assume that everyone else is a loser, liar, fraud and coward like you?

Na wa o

Professor of hydroponics, we hail thee

ZnO:
Ngozi got all her degrees from ivy league universities and somebody says she cannot be a prof in an ivy league school. I laugh in Ibo
I know tons of profs who did not study in ivy league schools but are pros there today.
Just as an example, many profs from Russia are teaching at Harvard, MIT, Caltech, UPenn, Columbia, Stanford etc.

See, this is what has me surprised. You are supposedly in the same game too. And if that is the case, then you know that publication record is absolutely critical. You need papers in top journals to get a job. Given that Ngozi doesn't have any, how will she be a prof at an ivy league school?

There are plenty of people who get their first degrees at ivy league schools. But not all of these are accepted to the next level (grad school.) And similarly, not all of these are accepted at the next level (faculty positions.)

Heh.

I'm not interested in convincing you. Whether you believe it or not is of no concern to me. In a few year's time you'll hear the name and remember this post.

ZnO:
I laugh at those who say a tenure track position is very hard to get
I do not want to start getting personal because we are all anonymous?
What do you need to get tenure track? (Asst Prof)?
2-5 years post-doctoral (pd) experience
In some cases (Medicine, some Engineering), even no pd is needed
At the end of the time 5-6 years, you may end up being found unworthy.

I know profs who will die to become WB MDs. I am in the system so take my word to the bank.

We are not talking of tenure track position at universities like Eastern Iowa bumfvck university. Your typical above-average graduate student with a decent publication record from a top university can get positions like that easy. But to get tenure track positions at the BEST schools in the US is hard!

If it is so easy, why isn't everyone doing it?

Stop lying to yourself. Yes, you know professors at 3rd and 4th rate universities who would die to become WB MDs. But who cares about them? They aren't the ones I'm discussing. I'm bringing up guys like Krugman and Mankiw and you are talking about "profs who will die to become WB MDs"? WB MD who is not fit to wipe Krugman's @ss? That should tell you that there exists a wide disparity between what these econ faculty members at elite schools are doing and what a WB MD is doing.

I have to say though, it does feel good to know that a Yoruba man purchased the UKs second busiest airport

That is pretty damn impressive  

Lol

We don't have the same writing style. He is far more arrogant than I am (but very well may have good reason for it, for all I know. . . I don't know enough about him to say). He drops in naija phrases more smoothly into his writing, mine is more awkward (evidence that I didn't grow up in there)

At any rate, I assume you believe that fstranger is different from me?

fstranger, if you come on YIM, I'll give you her name and you can confirm that she exists

More information needed

I'm sure employment is the least of his concerns. . . there are a crapload of firms he can go to. It isn't only goldman sachs

I think the only regular posters who are female are tpia, ileke, odunnu, desola, a few others

proly 95% of the regular posters are guys

Negro_Ntns, roflmao

Most of the folks on the politics section are dudes

bk_babe is a dude

ZnO:
Can't go back. His emptiness has been exposed

I doubt that, those folks will probably think naija is the problem rather than him

adconline:
To some extent, we are comparing apples and oranges. . . this person I've mentioned has chosen a slightly different career path in economics than Okonjo-Iweala. But her own path is in no way inferior, and is arguably superior. What she has right now, Okonjo-Iweala can probably not get (at least at the same caliber of school.) Yet what Okonj-Iweala has right now (or the equivalent positions at the Brookings Institution or some similar organization), she can one day take

Your fair sense of comparison is in question. You are comparing someone who has proven track record -WB MD vs a non tenured assistant professor. If her dozier is rejected after 6 years, she crumbles and starts from square one. Iweala's pension alone is enough to last her entire life while a non tenured prof does have not such perks. What path is arguably superior? WB MD who has more clout, experience, money, influence and power  vs assistant prof whose career is dependent on being confirmed as a tenured prof in 6-7 years time?

The only thing Iweala has on her is age. Which imo doesn't count for very much.

Even if this chick I know flops and doesn't get tenure (probably a low-probability event, since it is fairly unusual for someone not to get tenure if they are on tenure-track [except at certain schools!]), then she either:
A) jumps down a tier to get tenure (from a very good school to just a good one or OK one)
B) or leaves and goes to work for some big investment bank, some big hedge fund
C) or something equally lucrative and prestigious.

She'd have to fall off pretty hard not to achieve what Iweala achieved at the same age. And there is no real reason to expect that to happen. . . it isn't like she has anything but a track record of excellence up to this point in her life.

Anyway, we can agree to disagree, that is fine

He should just return to Goldman Sachs and enjoy his huge salary there. Unfortunate that public service in Nigeria didn't work out for him

I feel bad for Aganga

Hehe

Somalia is very strange to me. Ethnically homogeneous, religiously homogeneous, yet hasn't had a government in 20 years (1991 I guess?)

What is their problem? Why won't they get their act together? I don't get it

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=709408.msg8679654#msg8679654 date=1310149094]Authorities say such incidents are common in Cameroon's three northern regions of Adamawa, North and Far North, because Nigeria's cheap, subsidized fuel known locally as "zoua-zoua" or "funge" [size=14pt]can fetch three times the price[/size] in Cameroon than it is sold for in its West African neighbour.[/quote]Would you give up this business? buy for one price, sell for 3X as soon as you cross a border?

That is a lot of money being made

I suspected that lots of Nigerian petroleum products are being smuggled abroad, but I guess this is hard evidence.

I'm sure Nigeria's neighbors are happy to enjoy the subsidized oil as well 

6 July 2011

CONFLICTING reports of casualties have said that between six and 15 Cameroon petrol smugglers have died after a truck loaded with illegal fuel exploded in the northern town of Dembo, which borders Nigeria.

The fire happened at 2200 local time (2100 GMT), just after the vehicle had crossed over the border. An eyewitness told the BBC he had seen the charred remains of six bodies, including the driver.

State radio, however, said 15 people were killed in the incident, saying all the dead were Cameroonian, apart from one Nigerian.

The report did not say what caused the blast in the Benue division of Cameroon's North region, but local government sources told Reuters a passenger on the vehicle had lit a cigarette.

Authorities say such incidents are common in Cameroon's three northern regions of Adamawa, North and Far North, because Nigeria's cheap, subsidized fuel known locally as "zoua-zoua" or "funge" can fetch three times the price in Cameroon than it is sold for in its West African neighbour.

Security forces succeeded in eliminating the illicit trade in petrol between Cameroon and Nigeria in English-speaking South-west and North-west regions in the mid-1990s, but failed in the northern part of the country, because of porous borders.

At least 230 people were killed when a fuel tanker over- turned and exploded in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo a year ago. Nigeria heavily subsidizes fuel, making it profitable for smugglers to take it into Cameroon.

It is not clear what caused the explosion, but such accidents are not uncommon. Last month, Cameroon banned all night time public transport on roads that are often not tarred to curb accidents caused by heavy drinking.

The BBC's Randy Joe Sa'ah in the capital, Yaounde, said Nigerian fuel, popularly known as "zoa-zoa," is sold every- where across the northern region of the country. It is cheaper and more readily available in the regional capital Garoua than legal fuel refined in southern Cameroon, he said.

"The illegal trade is flourishing and attracts many of the region's unemployed young people." Haman Oumar, the government officer in charge of the North's commerce, said many children drop out of school to go into the business.

Some young people travel across the border on their bicycles to collect canisters of petrol. The District Officer for Benue, Zang III, said the incident in Dembo, 35km (about 20 miles) north-west of Garoua, clearly illustrates why the war against fuel smuggling must be won.

He launched a campaign to stop the trade last November. But the smugglers say the government relies on the illicit business for income, because custom duties are still paid on the imports, even though they are illegal.

http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201107080987.html

Where did SAP work?

Anyways, I didn't mean to derail the thread.

In short, contrary to Nchara's statement, what you have and acclaim in Igboland, we have at least one of our own (there may be more, but this is the one I've met personally.) Younger and arguably with higher potential for badassness

adconline:
What are you talking about? Tenured profs often leave for short periods of time/consult or affiliated with non-academic institutions. Just look at the bio of Mankiw I mentioned earlier. Paul Krugman is another guy, look at his bio.

You are talking about hypothetical scenario, what tenured profs would become if. Your person of reference has not become such, so keep it in the coolers. Paul Krugman is not a person of reference cos we are talking about Iwelas who have got their PhDs.

What? How is it hypothetical? As I said, tenured profs go into the non-academia sector all the time. It isn't anything strange. Or are you saying hypothetical in that the person I'm talking about hasn't yet done any such non-academic consulting or affiliations (to my knowlege)? Wait a few years, let her face the task at hand and get tenure and I'm sure then she'll dabble into other things. Can't put the cart before the horse.

And what is your basis for saying this?

At any rate, probably as a US-trained economist, getting a position at the Federal Reserve, Council of Economic Advisors, etc are just as good if not better career-wise as being at the World Bank. And you can take a look at what sorts of people fill these positions I just mentioned.


Is  Dr Iweala not US trained? Most tenured profs would jump  at such  offer to become a WB  MD. It’s a premium spot for most profs in that field. How many profs get to rise to the position of Economic advisor to the president?  You don’t really need a professorship/PhD to be on Fed. You are going off the tangent here , cos you are talking about someone –an assistant prof who’s about to match track record with Iweala’s.

What is your basis for saying that profs would jump at the offer to become a WB MD? Based on what? Premium spot, how and why? Again, what evidence? I suspect that you don't have any.

To some extent, we are comparing apples and oranges. . . this person I've mentioned has chosen a slightly different career path in economics than Okonjo-Iweala. But her own path is in no way inferior, and is arguably superior. What she has right now, Okonjo-Iweala can probably not get (at least at the same caliber of school.) Yet what Okonj-Iweala has right now (or the equivalent positions at the Brookings Institution or some similar organization), she can one day take.

EzeUche:
People are talking within Nigeria. . .

So you had to go across Africa to Ethiopia to find someone of the same caliber?

What are you talking about, please read what was written before responding

EzeUche:
Sad when Nigerians do not support one of their own. Even when that person is internationally recognized.

Tribalism will blind people. . .

She has my full support. Notice I've not tried to pull her down in the thread (or more generally on NL.) I just object to someone saying we don't have anyone like her We have at least one person who will be her equal, assuming all goes well.