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@Mariory: That is why I wondered so much about how the estates are being financed. If mostly private, then fine and well (means that Lamido has attracted investment, which is great.) If mostly public. . . then we have to ask the questions you are asking, and find out what the big picture is.

A link to an old thread on NL:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-379261.0.html

The article on NVS and gallery on Picasaweb are kinda interesting.

13volts:
they are all govt. / private initiative and supported by the federal mortgage bank.

here is another one

I see. Can you link to something describing how exactly it is structured? How much government, how much private? If mostly private, superb! If mostly public, then we have to wonder about whether this was the best use of resources, etc.

A few other pertinent Qs:

1. How much in allocations, IGR does Jigawa per year
2. What is its annual budget
3. Progress on healthcare, education?

I've never really understood the point of debates like this. Quite difficult to conclusively prove many of these controversies one way or another.

And more importantly, for 99% of people, the answer doesn't matter. If you are an atheist/agnostic, isn't by force to convince anyone else of the rightness of your beliefs. Largely speaking, doesn't really affect your life one jot whether you are an atheist or not, or if those around you are religious (aside from public political office, where you'll have to hide your beliefs a bit ).

Similarly, if a creationist Christian, unless you are a biologist or some sort of scientist, your lack of belief in evolution and Christian religious beliefs generally won't hurt your life in any way.

Too much focus on things that ultimately don't really matter, imo. . . this stuff is largely a personal affair rather than a public one.

Why is government building housing estate rather than private investors?

Is it some sort of low-cost housing scheme?

That is a lot of money disappearing.

on MAY 23, 2011 · in NEWS

By Enyim Enyim

ONITSHA – Anambra State government last year lost N800 million to fake revenue collectors, the government consultant on internally generated revenue, IGR, Mr. Olisa Aniuno, has said.

Aniuno, who is the Managing Director of Olisa Warren Group, dropped the hint Monday while addressing reporters on the activities of his consultancy firm in generating revenue for government.

This came on the heels of the declaration of Commissioner for Environment, Dr. Michael Egbobike, that the Ministry had a target of N800 million IGR on sanitation levy for this year.

The Commissioner said the target for last year was N30 million, adding that following the sensitisation of and response by the people on the need for them to pay their sanitation levies, the Ministry decided to shoot up its target for the year to N800 million.

Anuino told journalists that before now, revenue collection on sanitation was bastardised as many fake revenue collectors flooded the streets and roads, collecting all forms of revenue on behalf of government without remitting same.

He said: “For us to make sure that we carry out our job effectively, we had to first of all fight those fraudsters who had been denying the state the revenue that should have gone into its purse by embarking on an enlightenment campaign telling the people that they should pay directly to the banks.”

He said the N800 million target was realisable if government could, within the next 90 days, ensure that defaulters were arrested and prosecuted.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/anambra-loses-n800m-to-fake-revenue-collectors/

^-- Relax, I'm just having a bit of fun heckling him

^--  Wtf

Don't you realize that the US is one of the largest countries on earth? US pop density is very low, that of Nigeria is quite high. A bit silly to use raw pop figure of the US to to justify Nigeria's population. Even sillier to use the race card.

^-- Interesting. There is supposed to be a famous hydroponics expert in Abuja too, from what I have heard

Read it cover to cover once as a kid.

I probably should read it more again.

I love the Old Testament. Very fascinating material. New Testament, I don't really enjoy reading as much.

Interesting

Jarus: In theory, what you say is true. But in reality, I have good reason to be suspicious.

Well said, Mr Tinubu

hehe

You are welcome to laugh for now.

But as they say, he who laughs last laughs best

Let's revisit this in a few days and see what happens

hmm

na wa o

amor4ce:
Sex education from whose perspective and with what standards?
How about prioritizing the improvement of living standards across all regions first and letting all others including family sizing follow.

They sort of go hand in hand. Too many kids = not enough money to send them to school and raise their living standards.

amor4ce:
By the way, I intend to fully carry out my portion of the duty to fill the earth, Nigeria foremost.

I hope you are wealthy enough to afford this, so your kids don't constitute a drain on society

Bwahahaha

Lol

lol

gone for a few hours or days, maybe

I know she might come across as cheap, but her honesty is sort of refreshing (and hilarious)

I guess I like people who aren't politically correct sometimes

Good idea, but seems difficult to enforce

ObamaUS:
comparing the huge revenues arising from taxes and the FG allocations.FASHOLA has done nothing extra-ordinary.He's got a great PR and that's working for him.
It's when he leaves office that pple will know he's not done much compared to what he gets, Most of the money goes into TINUBU's pockets

Better to go into Tinubu's pockets than PDP slush fund pockets. Heh.

$2 billion in revenue for 18 million people isn't that much. Compare this to Rivers State and Akwa Ibom which get comparable money, but have to deal with 1/3 or 1/4 of the population. . .

Probably if we look deeply into things, we'll find that there is a lot being plundered from both Rivers and Akwa Ibom.

manny4life:
Texas, Florida, Virginia and a few republican states were of the 7/10 states that did not get hit badly; Texas isn't economically stronghold like NY, Chicago, CA, et al.

Texas is the #2 economy in the US, after California.

While it's just a huge state, their economic output is nothing compared to CA or other cities. Look I'm not justifying anything but merely telling you the truth; yes his ratings were low, obviously some of his actions were his own but as far as the ones you listed, those had nothing to do with him. The man tried all he could do like for instance if people are not exporting, where are the revenues? If people are not working because the demand of a product is low, how do u expect to get a tax revenue when you're paying unemployment compensation? The CA economy really was dependent on consumers around the U.S. and not just Californians.

Those macroeconomic factors, every state had to deal with. He was not able to cut down spending or raise taxes. One of the first things he did when he got into office was to make some tax cut that later on bit him in the ass and made him unable to balance the budget.

I have told you, passing budgets is certainly not his fault, blame the ego driven lawmakers. Now if his office did not prepare the budget on time for the house to sit and deliberate on it, that's different, but when you have prideful lawmakers who would rather allow their egos, budgets at least to a wide extent were not his fault.

It is his job to build consensus. That simply isn't a good enough excuse.

Arnold was trying; there were so much on his plate, from massive deficits, to political issues to criminal issues like the penal criminal system to social issue like gay marriage to environmental system with the EPA, to the health care system even constitutional problems. Arnold had so much on his plate than ANY other sitting governor within his term. It takes grace to handle it all. Again I'm not justifying his low ratings, but there are so much one person can handle. Like seriously look at most of the strong cases heard in the Federal court to the U.S. Court of Appeals, most of them are from 9th Circuit, most of which stemmed from Arnold term.

Any way you want to slice it, he did not perform.

Otoh, Fashola performed. And nobody can tell me running a state with 18 million people with only a $2 billion annual budget is a substantially easier job than running California.

Fashola performed well (at a very difficult job), Schwarzenegger did not.

Lawless land

@manny4life: Texas didn't suffer like California did. Texas didn't ruin its credit rating like California did. Texas is not drowning in a sea of debt.

I don't understand how you are justifying the performance of a man who has left his state a mess. A guy who has had such great difficulty passing budgets. A guy who left office with approval ratings in the low 20s (FYI, low 20s is very bad.) Granted, some of it might not be his fault.

But he simply did not do well as governor.

Now granted, in some hypothetical situation where Fashola had been governor, maybe he'd have flopped too. Perhaps much of this is out of a guy's hands.

But to pretend as if based upon track records, Arnold is a better administrator than Fash? Simply ludicrous

EDIT: lol, good luck on the mega millions.

manny4life:
Please don't start brother, compared tows who exactly? Is it that he did not do the job or a good job? Keep in mind that California being the one of the top 5 economic dependent states in the U.S. and financially bankrupt, please let me know exactly what he could have done and done well. It's only someone who doesn't know CA that will criticize them, I hope you're from CA and know what you talking about. CA and Lagos are no MATCH at all; population, economic wise et.al

I've lived in California for almost 5 years now. Arnold didn't do a good job here. Constant budget crises, bankruptcy, issuing i.o.u.s, an inability to control different political factions and build (political) bridges.

Now granted, I'm not an expert on local politics. But those I know who've lived here all their lives and are politically knowledgeable also say the same thing.

Fashola > Arnold probably isn't controversial at all. . . Arnold simply didn't do well

Let's be real.

The reason why people are downplaying his accomplishments are:
A) He is in the ACN
B) He is Yoruba


Bluntly speaking, that is the reason why this happening, right? Let's be real with ourselves.

Those who don't care about either of these factors (e.g., the US ambassador I mentioned) will be honest. Or the analysis from the Economist. Or the credit agencies that are trying to assess a state's ability to repay a loan. They don't give a crap about ACN, Yoruba, etc. All they care about is performance.