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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:22pm On Dec 04, 2016
Vivalavida99:
Special agent Felliani pls check your account. cheesy
Lol

Are you a United fan?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:16pm On Dec 04, 2016

Mourinho's decision to keep praying Pogba and Ibrahimovic for 90 mins will always come at a cost. The players that allowed Everton to boss us around in the last quarter of the match were Pogba, Carrick, Ibrahimovic and Darmian. Yet all of them finished the match.

Fellaini turned an almost harless situation to a penalty gift to Everton.

If Eric Bailly was not going to be called in to help in situation like this, why did he even make the bench?

It looks like Rooney brings some cohension and stability to our final third play.

We should stop blaming luck or lack of it. We are not good enough yet. When we decide to defend to see out a game, we always appear vulnerable. It usually starts from midfield where we are bossed around.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:42pm On Dec 04, 2016
We should add Bailly to this defence. Some height needed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:58pm On Dec 04, 2016
We would win easily if we could be more coherent, particularly in the final third. Pogba hates to do one time pass. Ibrahimovic's lack of pace kind of make it easy for his markers.

What was Rojo thinking? He wanted to spoil our game. Unfortunately, it will be hard to pair Jones and Bailly, neither is comfortable playing on the left side of central defence. This is where Smalling still has the advantage. He plays both sides.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:55pm On Dec 04, 2016
olabode89:
Bros no need for argument.

It was a coincidence, if you check livescores.com properly you will notice that the previous line-up that you provided a link for was updated 2 days ago. Take a look at the same livescores.com you will notice that the line-up was confirmed an hour before kick-off.
Even what I saw, Mata was on his previous line up. It was not e even accurate
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:53pm On Dec 04, 2016
Funlordjnr:
Line ups! At least Miki dey!


http://www.livescore.com/soccer/england/premier-league/everton-vs-manchester-united/1-2252314/
This line up has been modified na. Your previous line up had Mata in it. Mata, Mkhitaryan and Martial were behind Ibrahimovic on the chart
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:50pm On Dec 04, 2016
Funlordjnr:
grin

Hope say you don learn today abi?
I dont understand. Line up comes out one hour to.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:34pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
Apart from Pogba's pinpoint crosses, most of our clear-cut chances were fashioned out by Ibra.. As simple as abc!

You don't expect Ibra to finish the same chance he crafted out, do you?
How could that be when he alone missed half of the clear cut chances United has created? Please this is no mamaput you just make up lies from the blues?

Bye
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:29pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
I never said he scored from Ibra's cross! I stated that Ibra's cross caused commotion in watford's defence. The defenders were trying to head the ball out but couldn't and Rashford pounced on it.. Ibra made it happen in the first place.
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That is not counted in opta Assists. All the strikers in EPL also cause commotions from which their team mates score.

Kagawa10:
Ibra has been pivotal to our play and deserved plenty of assists to his name but unfortunately his team mates has been more miserable in front of goal than he was.
It's more of the other way round. If Ibrahimovic were clinical, the likes of Pogba, Rooney would have more Assists to their names.

This is my post last on this topic
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:19pm On Dec 04, 2016
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:14pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
You said what? You probably need to watch Yesterday's Spurs vs Swansea match or City vs Chelsea in the 1st half, even KDB miss in the 2nd half was a sitter.
You don't know what it means to equal two CCC per game. You obviously don't know the meaning of average.

Average: constituting the result obtained by adding together several amounts and then dividing this total by the number of amounts.

You can create 5 CCC in one match, and the next two matches you create nothing. Then you are not averaging 2 CCC per match.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:08pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
Only the Feyernoord match was included but only a fool would disagree about the clear-cut chances Ibra has fashioned out.. For example, the Rashford tap in goal vs Watford after Ibra's cross caused commotion in the box. Also, Rashford chance that was well picked out by Ibra in the Westham match, the Lingard's missed sitter vs stoke. His well picked out pass to Mata for the shot he blew in the Burnley game etc.

Ibra doesn't even need to record an assist. Many times he started plenty of our moves in the final third with his consistent through ball. For example against Burnley, his through ball sent clear Rashford who made a cut back for Mata for a shot in the box. Another of his through ball was made to Pogba who cut back a return pass for Ibra for a well thumping shot that was well blocked in the same Burnley game. Another was the stoke city match where one of his through ball made it to Lingard who only had to prod a simple pass for Pogba who made a mess of the well crafted chance!

Better goan sleep, your eyes are failing you!
Football analysis is not about running your mouth like a market woman quarrelling. All the things you typed there don't make up to one EPL Assist.

Against Watford, Rashford scored from a dropped ball from a defender. Ibrahimovic's cross didnt meet Rashford directly. In opta stats, that wouldn't pass for an Assist.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:38pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
And you think Aguero hasn't missed more?

Abegi!
Even Messi and Ronaldo miss. Let me help you.

Abeg, go to mamaput. You're hungry.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:36pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
You don dey mad abi?

The goal Rashford scored against Watford was created by who? The goals Rooney scored against Feyernoord was created by who? All the shots Mata had against Burnley was created by who? The sitter Lingard missed against Stoke was created by who? The chance Rashford had against Westham was created by who? You don finally mad!
The reason why it is hard to argue with you is because you are too dull in football knowledge. These stats are EPL stats. Stop talking about Europa cup and Capital 1 cup. Do Defoe, Aguero play in the Europa? Olodo

Ibrahimovic has no Assist in the EPL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:32pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
Which was well blocked! The question is, is our striker only entitled to having just 1 clear-cut chance per game?
No team has been able to equal 2 clear cut chances per game. In fact we are third on the table of clear cut chances created. We are ahead of Chelsea.

Kagawa10:
As for Palace, let me remind you they have Zaha who's a fantastic crosser! On the other hand, Defoe is the master at ghosting in to capitalise on every rebounds or knock downs and the reason Sunderland plays with 2 strikers!
Excuse, excuse excuse. Pogba, Rooney and Mata are better crossers of the ball than Zaha. Ibrahimovic just cannot connect well.

Your praise of Defoe is another slight on Ibrahimovic. Ibrahimovic's agility is gone.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:07pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
Na you sabi.

Why don't you check the quality of the chances provided to Sanchez in the Westham game? So was Aguero vs Chelsea.

The likes of Aguero and Kane has even missed far easier chances than Ibra and no one is holding them to ransom but it's only our team that's complaining of the few chances Ibra has missed when he's done a lot more and has scored more difficult chances to compensate for the missed chance.

Need I remember you that the likes of Kane and Aguero offers nothing more in their play apart from scoring? Granted that we could say Aguero can also provide some individual brilliance but his linkup play and vision are quite inferior to that of Ibra.
I ask you, do Sunderland and Palace create more quality chances than United? The horrible goal Ibrahimovic missed against I think Burnley, wont a grandmother score it. What other quality chances does he need?

Forget all these your excuses, Ibrahimovic is slower than the EPL. He is old.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:02pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
Lmao!

Most of the chances the listed players converted were fashioned out by Ibra, the real master at creating clear cut chances!
Stop telling lies, Ibrahimovic has zero goals Assists. I guess he created a chance for someone to score in your deluded dream.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
Kagawa10:
Which clear-cut chance did Ibra miss against Westham? He only had 1 and it was well blocked!
So you agreed he had one? Rashford missed one. Opta recorded two for United. So what's your argument?

Kagawa10:
And stop disturbing me with your nonsense Opta stats.the fact is the quality of our chances haven't been so good! There's no way a sane person would call all those Ibra's mid air volleys and difficult aerial duel easy chances!
Lame excuse. The same measuring criteria used for Ibrahimovic, is used for Defoe, Beteke, Zaha, Ahmed Musa, Smalling, Ivanovic, Giroud, Ozil, Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Aguero and all the outfied players in the EPL.

Kagawa10:
He was able to score good amount of goals during the week when he was provided with better clean chances, not those horrible chances!
So you mean Sunderland and Palace can create better clean chances than United? How are Defoe and Beteke leading Ibrahimovic in the score chart?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:39pm On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
Your statement of 2 missed chances in succession in the ibra vs city clip has it. One open shot was blocked by Stones and I agreed he should have hit it harder, the other was that Rooney cross which was hard. Abi you don dey suffer from Amnesia?

You provided nothing on the embolden part!
Just admit that your are only good enough for mamaput analysis. Just admit defeat.


Wait.. Hope you won't blame opta and CCC for this stats. See Sanchez, see Defoe sef dey gap Ibrahimovic. Defoe plays for weak Sunderland. Beteke for weak Palace. See Harry Kane with few matches. Kagawa10 give up.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:28pm On Dec 04, 2016

Manchester United clear cut chances conversion rate is 30.77

Ibrahimovic clear cut chances conversion rate is 11%

It means Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Rooney are even more efficient than Ibrahimovic in converting clear cut chances.



European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
Kagawa10, Read more:

Opta also log clear-cut chances created and scored by teams. These are moments when a player would be reasonably expected to score, such as in one-on-one situations.

United are third in the table when it comes to creating clear-cut openings. They've fashioned 20 such chances - including two against West Ham - putting them behind only Liverpool (23) and Manchester City (25), two sides praised for their attacking football.

However, United have missed more of those clear-cut chances (18) than any other team in the Premier League. Their clear-cut chance conversion rate is the joint-worst in the division - on average they score just 30.77 per cent of those big openings, the same rate as Watford.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic has missed nine clear-cut chances this season, three more than any other player in the Premier League. Paul Pogba (three), Marcus Rashford (two), Wayne Rooney (two), Juan Mata (one) and Jesse Lingard (one) have also been culpable


Of course, there is the argument United are simply coming up against inspired goalkeeping. Stoke City's Lee Grant and Burnley's Tom Heaton received plaudits for their performances at Old Trafford, while Darren Randolph pulled off several fine stops for West Ham.

But Mourinho's men must find a way to be more clinical in front of goal if they are to stay in touch with the Premier League's leading sides.


Skysports

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:19pm On Dec 04, 2016

Kagawa10

Look at the chart above. We joint first with Chelsea in respect of number of chances created this season. What makes us poor is our conversion rate. Chelsea convert from every 5.7 chances while we wait almost twice number of chances (9.1)to score a goal .

Who to blame for the poor chances conversion to goals, DeGea or Eric Bailly?


You no know ball


European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:14pm On Dec 04, 2016
Wasteful United

28/11/16 12

Not for the first time this season, Manchester United peppered their opponent's goal at Old Trafford on Sunday but were unable to come up with a winning strike.

Jose Mourinho's side fired off 17 shots against West Ham but after Zlatan Ibrahimovic cancelled out Diafra Sakho's early opener they were unable to hit the net again.

The 1-1 draw - which leaves United 11 points behind Premier League leaders Chelsea - had similarities with their home ties with Burnley and Stoke City over the past two months. The Manchester club had 62 shots in those games combined but managed just one goal.

It's a recurring problem and raises questions about the quality of United's finishing. A closer look at the stats shows there's an issue.

Manchester United have created 164 chances in the Premier League this season, scoring 18 goals. On average, they score one goal for every 9.1 chances they create.

That's the third-worst conversion rate in the Premier League, ahead of only West Ham (9.7) and Southampton (11.7).

In contrast, Chelsea have created exactly the same number of chances as United but have scored 11 more goals, hitting the net 29 times from their 164 openings. That equates to one goal for every 5.7 chances created. Arsenal are even more efficient, scoring a goal for every five chances.


- Skysports

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:58am On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
You aint serious! Your claim of clear-cut that had to with Rooney's high cross to the side of the post where Ibra had to do a lot with his head while leaping so high before that can land in the net or the error from the Watford defender who promptly close down Ibra are all bullshite!
I can't even remember providing a video of Rooney. I provided Ibra's horrible miss, two clear cut chances provided by Pogba, one from Valencia, one from a deflected shot. Then two one vs one situations, although I only provided one video, etc. I didn't provide that from Rooney, which was a big chance too. Only you imagine that I posted that video

What kind of human being are you self. Go back and watch those video. I am tired of you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:05am On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
LOL!

It's not me wey dey carry Opta untop head upadan like you. I've asked you to provide the 8 sitters Ibra has missed so far which you failed to. The responsibility lies on you!
So all the youtube videos of missed chances I listed, plus naming two others, you didn't view them? You listen to only yourself.

I have provided at least 7. Don't expect me to have all off hand.

Abeg shift
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:16am On Dec 04, 2016
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Politics › Re: 40 Reps, 5 Senators Have O’Level Certificates As Their Qualifications by elampiro(m): 9:48am On Dec 04, 2016
comshots:
Nigerian economy was buoyant under gej.When buhari came in he started placing ban on some foreign goods and he started restricting dollars to business and giving at a subsidize rates to pilgrims.That resulted to recession because companies cannot source for dollars to import goods that is never available in the country.
How was the econony bouyant under GEJ when despite Okonjo-Iweala said they were borrowing to pay salaries with oil at $70+/barrel, 28 states still owed varied arrears of salaries?

These guys were going to finish us off.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:41am On Dec 04, 2016
Kagawa10:
Lmao! Dey can be bold enough to say certain clear-cut chances were missed but can't tell us the said chances that were missed? Yeye!
If you pay the subscription, you will see the minutes, the moments and the matches the clear cut chances were missed.

Receive sense.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:40pm On Dec 03, 2016
Kagawa10:
Mtcheww!

The question is to list those 8 clear-cut chances! Abi Opta no have that again? They are supposed to have the list of the 8 clear-cut chances na..
How many times will I tell you that clear cut chances info is restricted to the big companies like Skysports, BBC, etc who can afford it. These news outlets only mostly publish the figures for players comparison.

If you want to see clear cut chances, go and carry millions of naira and subscribe to opta.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:27pm On Dec 03, 2016
Kagawa10:
I once asked you how Opta determines their easy chances but you haven't answer that nor the list of the 8 easy chances Ibra has missed!
You are the only one who didn't know I provided the answer several times.

You have internet. Go to opta website, you will see where they define every event (stats). Skysports, EPLindex and other major media as BBC also provided this same definition of clear cut chances, chances created, etc
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:22pm On Dec 03, 2016
Abeg, I want to sleep. Kagawa10 is about to open an endless argument
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:17pm On Dec 03, 2016
Kagawa10:
No be you dey follow me argue when I said Aguero has missed far more easy chances than Ibra but the fact that he hardly contest for the difficult chances, his missed shot rate is on the low unlike Ibra but you just dey pull out stupid opta stats upadan. Opta don baff?
Opta no dey do mistake. Your eyes dey deceive you.

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