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dopeJemi:
Rooney was decent on Saturday, not gonna lie but when you become hypocritical about the whole situation that's when you begin to sound and look like a co.ck sucker

dopeJemi:
You must be an idiot to tell such lies, tell me rooney's contribution in that match against swansea and also tell me what led to swansea's goal, i'm waiting

SailorXY:
Nah now you have singled out Rooney, this is politics you don't get. Jose already said if Rooney is not playing 10 or 9 he doesn't see any other fit especially in CMF. As soon as his hands were forced into a three man midfield we saw Rooney on the RW. What justification can he have if he starts playing Rooney anywhere except 10/9 from kick offs? Note that the No. 10 position will be scrapped in 4-3-3 & of course there's no hope starting Rooney as 9.

Alardyce thinks Rooney is a midfielder, LvG thinks so too so it's easy to accommodate the Big Elephant - but how has/did that work out? Question for the ages.

Nihilist:
How many goals does Martial this season?

dopeJemi:
Stop talking rubbish, our match against swansea last season were rooney cost us the game, did you blame him?

In games were rooney was as wasteful as lingard and mkhitaryan you didn't blame him so why are you blaming lingard and mkhitaryan?

elrony:
Hahahha, but SailorXY no mention Rooney na!!!

dopeJemi:
You too stop the nonsense, have you ever blamed rooney for our loss before?

SailorXY:
theres still talk of the three man midfield but I'm sure you know why it will be difficult for Mouthinho to make the switch. The same way the whole world knew how LvG would have made the best use of his team but something he already said made him adamant.. or was he just plain ill?

Deploying Pogba in DMF is like deploying Toure in DMF. It's not just by size or physic, that's just not their position!

afrodoc2:
This is my main point.
This match's problems started from
1) Mourinho being over cautious and selecting the wrong wide men
2) Those wide men Mkhi and Lingard not being able to control a first time ball or even pass to their team mates. Mkhi in particular looked small, afraid and jittery.
3) When things got difficult in midfield Fellaini of little talent stood up like a man while the more talented Pogba ambled around like a man still doing his warm ups....the boy is naturally lazy, he is loftus cheek's mentor
4)Blind and Bailly were not at their best also and even their passing was off.
5) Then you can talk of Rooney or Zlatan or the other guys.
Rooney is a problem in this team generally but he is not the only problem AND in this particular match the problems were Mourinho, Mkhi,Lingard and Pogba
Blaming Rooney first every time something goes wrong is a very lazy and simplistic way of addressing the problem

afrodoc2:
This is my main point.
This match's problems started from
1) Mourinho being over cautious and selecting the wrong wide men
2) Those wide men Mkhi and Lingard not being able to control a first time ball or even pass to their team mates. Mkhi in particular looked small, afraid and jittery.
3) When things got difficult in midfield Fellaini of little talent stood up like a man while the more talented Pogba ambled around like a man still doing his warm ups....the boy is naturally lazy, he is loftus cheek's mentor
4)Blind and Bailly were not at their best also and even their passing was off.
5) Then you can talk of Rooney or Zlatan or the other guys.
Rooney is a problem in this team generally but he is not the only problem AND in this particular match the problems were Mourinho, Mkhi,Lingard and Pogba
Blaming Rooney first every time something goes wrong is a very lazy and simplistic way of addressing the problem

SailorXY:
you are a specialist in missing the point when King R is on the table anyway so no surprises here.
why all the headache about Rooney's 'best' position? Why must every manager(club/country) speak on this topic? It's a simple question demanding a simple answer, not epistles.

SailorXY:
i'm not sure how coogar & elampiro come up with Rooney issue all the time. while we may all have a favorite player or two, anyone with football knowledge & who's not trying to add sentiments or politics will know Rooney is 70% of MUFC problem even from the last Fergie season. he is a United great, that's a given but what exactly is his specialty for the last 4 seasons? do you think it is a coincidence whenever tactical/formation discuss pops up or "manager conundrum" about player position, Rooney's name is never missing be it national team or club?

if Jose decides to go 4-3-3 today, the debate will be which flank will Rooney occupy? is it RW or LW? abeg why the debate about him all the time all over the media? na only him waka come? when other players get a chance to perform in any "preferred Rooney position of the moment", they are disengaged after 4 games maximum then we start hearing how so & so didn't take his chance; yet Rooney can go on for ages without making an impact & what we hear is "he is a late starter who needs a lot of games to kick off".

no matter the formation or tactics Jose employs in the long run & Rooney is a sure starter, brother believe me it is destined to fail. no be swear & the reason is very simple; there are players in this team who can do a far better job no matter the position Rooney decides to compete in. this isn't about the last game or knee jerk, this is about the club moving on. Carrick is far more important than Rooney in this current team but he's yet to make the bench. if we still play politics with Bobby Charlton goal record then i'm sorry - we never ready @ all.

Rooney is the reason why crude oil price collapsed from $140 per barrel to $40 in the international market.

sinizia:
You and Diademk07 should read the full editorial I dropped below. It reaffirmed my earlier opinion that Mourinho is wasting Pogba's ability playing him alongside Fellani in the DM position.


But the particular point I want you two to
note is the quoted part. When I typed yesterday that Rooney was occupying the position of Mhiki, Mata and Co, it looked like I was hating. It turns out I was not only right, but even Pogba is another victim of Rooney's must-play syndrome. Thank God say no be me write the article. Read. . . The article is talking about Pogba.


http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/14302/comment/2016/09/11/27391872/mourinho-role-not-letting-pogba-reach-his-potential

Like I said, how Mourinho handles Rooney's conundrum will determine if he'll be successful or not, or if he'll get sacked.

Funlordjnr:
Elamps there is a reason we have a saying in politics called "damned lies and statistics"....those your stats are under the bridge stats!



Stop trying to use semantics to try and bring other non essential factors or players into this small point! We all watched the match, friends and foes alike!



HE LOST POSSESSION 23 TIMES YESTERDAY? That is a fact! If I even go into how many times he has lost possession this season then na cry go get you! I know you love rooney but don't be blinded by your love for him be objective! Sarah winterburn is a well known. Highly respected premier soccer analyst and editor, why na you we wan come dey listen to na?





You nor know rooney!

joeace2020:
I like the fact that people are intentionally ignoring the trolls like kokaneprodigy while he is trying so hard to poss someone off. Arsenal escaped with a 2-1 win and they are suddenly world class...lol. After barca 's loss at home to a newly promoted side yesterday I stopped feeling too bad about the game. We played a good team and Mourinho made the number one mistake of any game like this. Don't change ur winning formula, instead make improvements from ur last game like starting rashford, someone who is never scared of the occasion despite his age ..not people who just returned from injuries, fazed by derbies or never experienced a machester derby

Funlordjnr:
AN HONEST ASSESSMENT:


"At this point we are duty-bound to praise
Rooney for ‘trying to make things happen’.
Which basically means "tearing around, chasing
balls, flying into tackles for which he really
should have been booked sooner, attempting to start a fight with Guardiola, taking all the set-pieces and appealing every time the ball hits an opposition player on any part of his body in the box."



"By the end of the game he had lost possession more times than anybody else on the pitch (23), which – granted – only happens when you are ‘trying to make things happen’. But for real influence, check out De Bruyne, nominally playing in the same position as Rooney at the opening whistle but making a lot less noise while having a lot more impact."





Sarah winterburn...www.football365.com


She's british, a respected soccer analyst and editor for one of the u.k's best soccer websites? Has worked extensively with media outlets such as sky, daily mail, daily mirror!


Elamps keep quiet abeg!

patrickmuf:
You are joking right?

sinizia:
Oya, we don lose. Make we move on.


Any positivity from today?

sinizia:
The dude was everywhere. He played a free role and ran us ragged. He scored his goal from the SS position.

sinizia:
Rooney played better than both of them, am I disputing it?

All I'm saying is that he played below average. Nothing noteworthy to show for the 90mins of his play, unlike KDB that played in a similar role to his and shone like the stars.

sinizia:
Nothing like cover. Mhiki and Lingard played poorly

Rooney played poorly. What am I covering?

sinizia:
With all those things written about Rooney, you think Goal was praising him?

sinizia:
Did I say mhiki played well? Show me.