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eph12:
So you don't believe man United can be dominating and devastating? Mehn LVG really did lot of damages to our psychic.

parrotibaba:
I know that but it will be wrong for some people here to expect us to boss games LVG style, possession, possession, possession, sideways passes, etc.

SIRcumalot:
@elampiro thanks for the link.
that Shaw penarity soft sha.

parrotibaba:
I just de see "we are not dominating games" up and down in this thread. I don't think that Mourinho is interested in dominating games Phee-lo-so-phee or guardiola style, if na wetin people here de expect to happen. His philosophy is winning and defending well, not how much possession you had in a match or how you used your possession play to score a goal. He wants the players to start believing that they can win a match even without playing well, it's all about the wining mentality and I think it's a good thing to happen to our club considering what happened during the last 3 seasons. Of course we will drop points(no be every match you go win) but it's important that those situations are limited if we really want the league title this year. I expect us to play better against so called big teams because of the system that the team plays, the smaller teams are the ones that we should worry about.

Lana1:
Na so u go dey lie all in a bid to defend Rooney. Mata was neva dropped from Pks. Even with Rooney on d pitch, Mata played most of our PKs last season. If memory serves me right, Herrera's only PK was against Liverpool last season. While Rooney dint even take a pk last season.

And only some1 who knows nothing go dey take Pre-Season so serious. Rooney is Mourinho's first choice pk taker. He took pk in pre-season but he couldn't take pk in an important league match.......at home abi?? First class Delusions of Grandeur.

dopeJemi:
So why did you lie? You said rooney has been taking penalty kicks since that time

SIRcumalot:
am going off what I read on this page
didn't watch the game.
he should get some goals against Hull.

Lana1:
Bros. U think u know, but u know nothing.
Rooney was stripped of PK duties after that Liverpool game. Later dat season, we played West Brom at home. They scored and we had a late penalty to draw d game. Van Piersie took the pk. Not Rooney.

Last season, we had one or two pks. One in the ucl against wolfsburg. And another one in the league. Mata took both of em. He scored the first and missed the other. Fact is Rooney has been stripped of pk duties since the Liverpool. And he hasn't played a pk for us in any competitive match since then. Na only for England e dey flex muscle dey take pk.

And u're even mentioning Pre-Season. Are u serious?? Even De Gea can take pk in pre-season. But u'll neva see him take one in an important league game.

Rooney has been kicked off pk duties. However u take it is ur business.

SIRcumalot:
things are surely looking up.
not too long ago person would have to start scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a way to say something positive about the team.

hopefully marital picks it up soon.
he can't afford a sophomore slump to many guys waiting to take that spot.

Lana1:
Oh. Really! Selfless indeed.
How soon u forget Liverpool vs United. Mata on two goals, Unitef ve a penalty, Mata with his chance to nick a hattrick and yours truly just had to ruin everything and even miss the penalty sef.

Oga no talk shît. Rooney has been dropped from PK duty for more than a year now.

AdisaOwala:
Phil Jones couldnt make the bench again...

Elampiro, I am worried sick

MrTA:
Zlatan. Even pushed Rooney off the penalties.

Diademk07:
Which excuse? You mean playing with about 7 shite players consisting of inexperienced shite kids in the team is an excuse? That's a real fact on the table.

More so, Kagawa already left the pitch before Alli started dominating us and he was our best player despite playing in a 2-man midfield before he got injured. It was after he left, Mkdons started scoring their goals.

Whatever you say, the fact is Rooney hardly scores nor create chance while pretending to be a no 10. All he does is to play long ball to Valencia while ghosting in to score from the subsequent cross. He's basically a fraud! Better still, a forward but an average one.

Diademk07:
Limited passes you say? You know why many people constantly overlooked Blind defensive errors to praise him in his first few matches for us? His visionary passes! His passes was quite good and you call it limited?




Why don't you check the Westham team that played us in the previous game? While I don't think Noble or Nolan are great players, they are respectable midfielders in the league and both were missing in the previous game. There was even Kouyate, the brute who was missing in the previous game as well.




You know I stated that it was only the Roma game he looked good but apart from this, which other games he created chances in the game. I'll make it easy by not asking about him assisting a goal but creating a good chance for his fellow forward, even if the chances were missed.

And stop mentioning any backheel here, that was no chance but him linking up play.

Diademk07:
Look at our midfield and defence against Mkdons before mentioning the likes of Chicharito, Kagawa played Mkdons.

We had Micheal Keane (our worst player in the pre-season), Reece, half fit Evans, Vermijil in defence, a midfield combo of unfit Ando and Kagawa. Our wings had one Janko and Powell on it while Welbeck and Chicharito led the line. For crying out loud, they are not magicians.

We had nobody to create on the wing nor in the middle while our defence was also rubbish yet I recall Kagawa being our best player with his often forced playmaking through the middle until he got injured and everything fell apart as soon as he left..

As for Rooney, his best form was when he was leading the line to play long ball to Valencia while running forward to nod in the subsequent ball before he got injured. Fergie was constantly alternating between 442 or 433/451 setup and he predominantly used the latter setup in the CL and in big games. Rooney hardly created enough chances for Berbatov who was quite sluggish though.

Diademk07:
Lol at replacing Blind with a strong DM when he was the one that made us tick with his passing as soon as he was brought into the team.

Diademk07:
He wasn't nimble enough, agile nor defensive aware to be as good as Carrick in the role but his passing and vision were good in that role and was the major reason we looked good going forward, not because of any 442 tactics coupled with the fact that most of the teams we faced were thrash. Teams like QPR and a Westham team with lot of shite players in it.

Diademk07:
You still haven't told us the chances Rooney created in pre-season?

Diademk07:
Cut it out already, Young was our creative player in the pre-season. When Rooney was supposed to be the SS in the pre-season, he was acting as the forward while putting the bulk on Welbeck; but with another true forward player in Rvp in front of the sluggish Rooney in the league, everything went into chaos.

You know what? The thing with Rooney is he's a forward but an average one pretending to be no 10/SS. Forget all his stupid pass to the wing as a SS. He knows as a forward, he's no elite and that why he loves disguising as a 10/SS behind another forward to divert any attention from himself, only to burst through and surprise the opposition to score goals.

The only time he looked good as an no 9 was when he was making long ball to Valencia on the wing while running forward to get the subsequent crosses from Valencia.
And that's why he was never and will never be the main man in any of our title win.

As for the 442 tactic, we were up against poor teams in most of the matches. Also, Madrid 1st half team wasn't a strong one.

You are very confused. Welbeck, Chicharito led the line against MK Dons with Kagawa playing behind them. What happened?


In our league matches against Burnley and Sunderland, Welbeck came on for RVP in both matches. How come nothing changed.

In terms of Rooney leading the line in 2009/2010, he was a co striker with Bervatov. We lost the league to a number of factors. Injury to Rooney in Munich which he never really recovered from till end of the season. The whole team was badly hit with injury too. SAF having to rest players against Chelsea in a crucial match and Drogba scored from a clear offside which decided the season.

Rooney is primariry number 10. That is where he has played most in his career and scored most of his goals like 2011/2012 when he played behind Chicharito and Welbeck. But he is not a number 10 like you want him to be. If he gains form this season, you will understand his kind of ten and how a number 10 can score plenty goals.

That Madrid match, there first half was there strongest line up based on fitness. Ronaldo only played the last 16 minutes and was giving the ball away.

Diademk07:
There's no diversion here. My first post was how the slow toads of Rvp and Rooney made the 352 look rubbish only for you to come up with 'Rooney was our best player in the pre-season'

And I'll always talk about how the 2 sluggish mofos looked without our "reliable inform lovely playmaker'' (Young) in the league. Lol!

Why don't you tell us the chances Rooney created in the pre-season?

Diademk07:
Madrid had Nacho in defence, Illara in midfield, Carvajal/Modric on the wing while Isco and Bale were the front 2 in their starting line-ups. Is that a strong team?

Apart from the goals, Rooney was abject. His job as the SS was rubbish. So was Mata who was the designated playmaker. Their duties were taken over by Welbeck and Young respectively in the games. Imagine a makeshift wingback, especially an inconsistent sick-note as Young being our best creative player?

It's no coincidence that the team eventually faltered in the league while depending on slow mofos like Rooney, Rvp and Mata.

Diademk07:
His role as a SS was not only to score goal but to add creativity and linkup the play in the final third which he failed to do. It was Welbeck that consistently did that. Even Chicharito did his part as opposed to Rooney.

We had to depend on our fullbacks, esp. Young putting in crosses and once he got injured or went off form in the main league matches, we were back to square 1 with 2 sluggish toads in Rvp and Rooney finalised by another useless one in Mata.

And Rooney was no best player on the pitch vs Pool, Sterling was. Rooney only got the man of the match because he scored 2 tap-ins, one got cancelled though.

Diademk07:
That's not true. The likes of Roma and Madrid fielded their best players in the second half. I remembered Pjanic and Ronaldo coming in the second half.

The galaxy game for example, the team was dire in the first half despite the 3 goals scored until the introduction of Kagawa who was putting Herrera in lot of good position with his passes before Herrera's through balls. Don't forget Kagawa was the CM in that match.

The only match I remembered Rooney playing well was the Roma game 1st half game.

Diademk07:
You don come with your British report again?

Which Liverpool match are you even talking about? That controversial match where a penalty wasn't awarded to Liverpool? Or a cross that sailed out for goal before it got cancelled?

Not to talk of the fact that we looked quite poor in the first half when Liverpool should have scored plenty while the likes of Sterling and Coutinho terrorised us throughout.

The scoreline didn't even tell the story.

Diademk07:
Just scoring goals? when he was the second striker? Lol!

The fact that most of our chances came from Young and Welbeck or Kagawa whenever he came on tells a lot. We hardly create chances with Rooney and Mata on the pitch. All we see is Welbeck either taking long shot and getting busy or Young putting in crosses as a wingback when we should be creating through the middle.

Even Chicharito was creating chances for your lump of wood in that controversial Liverpool game.

This finally tells that it's you who didn't watch the match if you actually responded to my first post of "RVp and Rooney looking like dunderheads in the 352 tactic because Rvp didn't play in the pre-season and one sluggish toad in Rooney was enough already let alone having 2 in Rvp and Rooney.

Diademk07:
Which yeye player of the tourny?

His only good performance was vs Roma team.
Young was our best player in that pre-season followed by Welbeck.

Against Real madrid for example, Welbeck was our best player in the first half and once he went off, the team looked drab. We weren't creating much after the first goal BTW.

In fact our 2nd goal was through a lucky cross that sailed into the net. Not until Kagawa, Lingard and Chicharito introduction did the team start to look like scoring plenty of goals!

You on the other hand should stop watching Rooney performances through his highlight goals, watch the whole match or at least, all his touches!

Diademk07:
Top coach rarely deploy 442 nowadays except they have a player like Keane or Kante in midfield to prevent the midfield from being overrun and pacey forwards to help out.

Considering only 442 or 352 could accommodate the 2 waste bags of Rooney and Rvp, Van gaal chose the lesser evil.

352 tactic with the right players is the best tactic ever for me. We all saw the Italian team with such tactic doing so much like advancing to the Euro final in 2012 or performing well in the recent euro despite having little quality in the team. How about the average Holland team that won the 3rd place final. Even Pep often operates similar tactic because the tactic ensures more numbers in the defence and in the midfield thereby tapering over the little quality in those department.

The fact that we had 2 sluggish shitheads in Rvp and Rooney as the main front 2 was the major problem. The tactic looked great vs Madrid in the pre-season with the pacy Chicharito and Zaha leading the line for example.

Hence, blame your bae, Rooney for stinking the whole place.