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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:23am On Jul 11, 2016
Odunharry:
cool cheesy Sissoko.. He really impressed today.
He played like he was the one being valued 100 million.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:18am On Jul 11, 2016
Ibime:
Van Gaal and Moyes should be shot for chasing Nani out of Old Trafford. No winger they have signed since can lace his boots.
Gaal sold him and Di Maria. Moyes had no hand in it.

When I watch Nani, I feel pains that we left him go prematurely. Nani would have helped Man Utd finished top four last season. Not doubt. The likes of Lingard, Mephis, are waste when compared to Nani.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:28pm On Jul 09, 2016
SailorXY:
SAF said letting Stam go was a decision he regretted till he left the game, & although Rio didn't disappoint as a replacement he felt he was hasty in his decision.

Raumdeuter is only obsessed with one award or the other forgetting this sport is golf. In sheer footballing abilities Maldini & Stam tower above Cannavaro, for me it's no contest.
Exactly.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:29pm On Jul 09, 2016
dubylhover:
gbam..d horse has spoken..gbr1,we have xchanged,now i hope that hes actually wrong
Listen to him here:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1025740137508474&id=112070568875440
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:16pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
I stated 20yrs and Schmeichels peak was a little earlier than that he would have been mentioned somewhere if we are talking of 30yrs

If we are talking of great defeders we can entertain Maldini, Stam though good wasnt in the class of Canavarro, Sammer and Maldini
What made Stam not in that class?

I saw nothing special in Cannavaro, except having an excellent world cup and a one or two superb seasons.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:57pm On Jul 09, 2016
Axel Tuanzebe and Tyrell Warren are two Man Utd youngsters who could make their debuts in Jose Mourinho's first pre-season match vs Wigan.

Over 7,000 Manchester United supporters will be in attendance for the club's trip to Wigan next week.

The decision to play at Wigan has been well received among matchgoers. For those United supporters eager to watch Jose Mourinho's Reds but unable to afford a flight to China.

United will be deprived of 14 players next week. 11 were included in Euro 2016 squads, while Marcos Rojo, Sergio Romero and Antonio Valencia featured for their countries at the Copa America.

Mourinho will be bereft of four United strikers, so James Wilson might have the chance, the same applies to Sam Johnstone.

Valencia and Matteo Darmian are on holiday which gives Timothy Fosu-Mensah a chance with Guillermo Varela the only recognised right-back.

Eric Bailly and Daley Blind might be able to play unless Mourinho decides on Jones in the centre.

Ander Herrera, Michael Carrick and Juan Mata are available and Memphis could capitalise on Anthony Martial's participation at Euro2016 as United's left winger.

Jesse Lingard could liekly play and Henrikh Mkhitaryan should be available for his debut

But the biggest cheer of the afternoon when the line-ups are announced at the DW might be for Luke Shaw.

[Source: M.E.N] #MUFC #Mourinho
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:56pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
There is no aggregation of points. Kahn has been keeper of the year multiple times VDS never won once

Its like saying Suarez who never won Balon dor is better than Ronaldo who won multiple times

Kahn in multiple years was the best VDS was never the best in any year
I see how you tactically left out Schmeichel in the equation.

Stam and Maldini never won Ballon D'or, I believe they are better than Cannavaro.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:51pm On Jul 09, 2016
Guillem Balague tells BBC Radio 5: "Paul Pogba is Manchester United-bound. Real Madrid have abandoned the auction."
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:47pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
VDS didnt even win the award once. while Kahn won it multiple times.

Kahm was the best player in a world cup, Man of the match in a CL final, Balon dor runner up
You are repeating yourself instead of addressing my point. My point is that there is an aggregation of points over a period which put Kahn behind VDS and Schmeichel.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:06pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
That body gives an award called world keeper of the year, How many times did VDS win it, how many times did Kahn win it

Kahn was the Man of the match in a CL final, Best player at a world cup, The goalkeeping heroics of Kahn, VDS never matched it
The number of times individual keepers won it wouldn't count anymore when the same body used same metrics to make an assessment covering 25 years period. It is just like saying Messi has won the Ballon D'or 5 times but many experts still ask if he is as good as Maradona.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:54pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
Yes. World cup winner, Ballon Dor winner.
I will take Stam and Maldini over Cannavaro.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:49pm On Jul 09, 2016
raumdeuter:
Cech is still better than the set of DDG Cortouis Leno Navas but not on the iconic level of Kahn, Neuer, Buffon and Casillas. If we extend it further we would include Schmeichel
But the body that rates goalkeeper on yearly basis and has rated the best keepers in the last 25 years, rated VDS and Schmeichel higher than Kahn.

I have no problem with Neuer, because I have been a fan of Neuer since we played against him while he was at Schalke 04. I have no doubt that he is the world best keeper now and has been for some time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:58pm On Jul 08, 2016
raumdeuter:
In the last twenty years Kahn, Buffon, Neuer and Casilass are the goalkeeping icons

DDG is still struggling with the likes of Cortouis, Navas, Leno and Trapp
What is your criteria?
........

As of January 2013

The Top 20 finalists are all featured below:
1. G. Buffon (ITA) 226 points
2. Iker Casillas (SPN) 213
3. Edwin van der Sar (HOL) 201
4. Peter Schmeichel (DEN) 179
5. Oliver Kahn (GER) 162
6. Petr Cech (CZE) 154

7. J.L. Chilavert (PAR) 146
8. Walter Zenga (ITA) 132
.-. A. Zubizarreta (ESP) 132
10. Claudio Taffarel (BRA) 130
11. M. Preud’homme (BEL) 124
12. Fabien Barthez (FRA) 115
13. David Seaman (ENG) 114
14. Dida (BRA) 109
15. Vítor Baía (POR) 94
16. Gianluca Pagliuca (ITA) 90
17. Francesco Toldo (ITA) 82
.-. Víctor Valdés (SPN) 82
19. Jens Lehmann (GER) 81
20. Júlio César (BRA) 76

In the article ‘ World’s Best Goalkeeper of the Last Quarter of a Century ’ by the International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS), Casillas falls 13 points short of Buffon for the top spot.

Buffon tops the list with 226 points, while Casillas has 213, former Manchester United goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar with 201, Peter Schmeichel with 179 and Oliver Kahn with 162.
Former Barcelona goalkeeper and current sporting director, Andoni Zubizarreta comes in at 9th place with 132 points, while current Barcelona goalkeeper, Victor Valdes cracks the Top 20 at the 18th position with 82 points.

www.insidespanishfootball.com/39563/casillas-named-second-best-goalkeeper-over-the-past-25-years/
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:48am On Jul 08, 2016
Paul Pogba's priority is to join Real Madrid over Manchester United this summer, according to Sky Sports' Spanish football expert Guillem Balague, but Real Madrid are scared they might be priced out of the transfer of the summer.

....... "Pogba has made it very clear, to Real Madrid anyway, that he would like to be a Real Madrid player this summer," he told
Sky Sports News HQ .
"He has had conversations with Zinedine Zidane and he wants to play for Zidane.
"The problem is Real Madrid feel the kind of money that Manchester United is willing to pay for him is crazy and they cannot match it."

www.skysports.com/football/news/12087/10494459/paul-pogba-favours-real-madrid-over-manchester-united-but-real-fear-being-priced-out-says-guillem-balague
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:00am On Jul 08, 2016
Jose Mourinho does not want Manchester United’s pursuit of Paul Pogba to drag on beyond the Community Shield against Leicester City at Wembley on August 7th.

The United manager has made it clear, publicly and privately, that he has no intention of allowing the club to be backed into a corner on a frantic transfer deadline day scramble, a scenario that happened in each of the past three summers under his predecessors, Louis van Gaal and David Moyes.

If a deal cannot be agreed for Pogba within a reasonable timeframe, Mourinho will switch attention to his back-up plan.

“We are not going to get the fourth on the 31st of August, no way, we will get the fourth before that and then we are stable but the market will be open,”

Real Madrid provide the main competition to United and the Spanish giants – who have a history of getting their man but this time are facing an unusual scenario in that they fear being priced out of a deal by United.

Woodward was in Monaco with Raiola on Tuesday to tie up the Mkhitaryan transfer and Woodward is happy for Raiola to take the lead on negotiations with Juventus for Pogba.

[Source: Telegraph] #MUFC #Pogba #Mourinho #Raiola
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:57am On Jul 08, 2016
Jose Mourinho risks upsetting his Manchester United players if he decides to sell Juan Mata this summer.

Mata, who was sold by Mourinho to United in January 2014, is well liked among his teammates and his possible departure would be 'very unpopular' inside the dressing room.

Mourinho appeased the United squad before he met them by offering vice-captain Michael Carrick a contract extension weeks after his appointment was confirmed, but Mata's United career was plunged into further doubt by Henrikh Mkhitaryan's arrival.

Mata operated mainly on the right for United last season - which is where Mkhitaryan excelled for Borussia Dortmund.

Mata, 28, is understood to not see any issues with Mourinho arriving unless the Portuguese decides to create one with the player he jettisoned from Chelsea.

[Source: M.E.N] #MUFC #Mata
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:56am On Jul 08, 2016
Victor Valdes released by United has signed for Middlesboro.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:39pm On Jul 07, 2016
raumdeuter:
Muller was poor this tournament and has been in poor form since like March. Also Schweini needs to respect himself and retire
Schweinsteiger played far better in this tournament than he ever did for Manchester United
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:32pm On Jul 07, 2016
Training has started.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:32pm On Jul 07, 2016
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:10pm On Jul 07, 2016
GBR1:
Elampiro stop going off a tangent again. This is why i always have issues with you. You're just one untruthful/insincere individual. I hope you aren't like this in actual life but i won't be surprised if you are.
Rooney was bad this season in general just like a lot of our players. A few good performances in a period totaling about 2/3 months doesn't change the fact that he was poor for majority of this season. That little period was like a purple patch for him and was the exception while Rooney being bad was the norm. It's the truth so stop spamming these pages with those posts about Rooney.
And someone said Rooney only had one good game every 15 games. So I shouldn't clarify the situation?

This is the problem. When people lie about Rooney you guys support. But when I clarify with facts, you come to attack me. You see your biased mind?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:06pm On Jul 07, 2016
Rooney's offside count 2012/2013 when he played behind RVP.

2011/12 and 2012/13 have been his low offside count. It clearly shows he was in the number 10 in both seasons.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:02pm On Jul 07, 2016
Patrickmuf,

You can see Rooney's offside count in 2009/10. It is easy to see he played as a striker.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:56pm On Jul 07, 2016
patrickmuf:
Not true...Rooney was a striker that season...It's the Okazaki argument repeating itself here
That is not true.

Rooney was number 10 behind Chicharito/Welbeck . That was why his offside count was low, just like when he played number 10 behind RVP the next season.

Rooney’s offside count usually reflects where he played. When he has been rotated from positions, his offside count still reflect such like last season, and 2013/14, 2014/15.

But in 2009/10 when he was a co striker with Bervatov, his offside count was high.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:28pm On Jul 07, 2016
lekkie073:
in the course of last season, the only players Rooney performed better than are depay and fellaini....
all other united players had a better season than Rooney
You can have your opinion. I have mine.

Herrera, Mata, Rojo, Wilson, Schneiderlin, Darmian, were worse than Rooney in opinion.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:34pm On Jul 07, 2016
Spy360:
Lets end this, mention Mou's likely favorite front three. Your options are Ibra, Martial, Mkhi, Rashford, Mata, and ofcourse Rooney.
Mourinho has played predominantly 4-2-3-1. So we should be talking of front four.

I honesty think Rooney will get in before Herrera and Mata. But we still have to wait. It is going to be another long season with many matches, so there are plenty matches to go round. The one who started on the bench might even end up being the coach's favourite as season progresses.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:28pm On Jul 07, 2016
lekkie073:
no ratings can rule out the fact dat Rooney's wage is not commensurate to his services. period!
Only five players deserve their wage. DDG, Martial, Smalling, Blind and Valencia.

Even Mata has not earned his wage.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:05pm On Jul 07, 2016
RuuDie:
Nothing we no go hear from Man Utd fans...

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Na true na. Anything I talk, I fit defend am.
.....................

Louis van Gaal tactics left Manchester United players close to mutiny

One of Van Gaal’s more bemusing instructions was for his strikers not to shoot first-time from balls coming across the penalty area. Instead they were under orders to take a touch in front of goal, even if the relevant players felt confident enough to go for goal straight away. One example goes back to the opening day of the season when Tottenham Hotspur were the opposition and Antonio Valencia sent in a low cross from the right to pick out Rooney, unmarked, in the middle of the penalty area. It seemed like a relatively straightforward finish but Rooney took an extra touch because that was what Van Gaal had drummed into his players. Kyle Walker made a saving tackle only to turn the ball into his own net and Rooney looked almost sheepish as he headed back to the centre circle.

Over time, the players started ignoring the rule, complaining that they should be allowed to think for themselves (though the story of one player asking United’s chef to hard-boil him a couple of eggs to take home, on the basis he did not know how to do it himself, suggests that maybe some members of the squad do need coddling).

Other sources have revealed how players became so frustrated with Van Gaal’s instructions they took matters into their own hands and told him they wanted to play their own way. In one case, that player is said to have improved markedly as a result.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/may/22/louis-van-gaal-manchester-united-players-near-mutiny
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:56pm On Jul 07, 2016
patrickmuf:
What has Rooney achieved as a No. 10?
Rooney scored 34 goals playing from the number 10 in 2011/2012 season. He always scores goals from there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:54pm On Jul 07, 2016
Lekkie073, below are the matches Rooney played on his return from injury. If you think Rooney was not superb in most of these matches, you are unrepentant biased fan. When he played the number 10 against Villa, he was outstanding and deserved to continue there, he was probably the best player on the pitch. But Gaal decided those passes were better used in midfield. Even when he went to midfield, he did mafnificiently well. The match day ratings from various sites are not far farfetched.


13 Apr 2016 West Ham 1 - 2 Man Utd

16 Apr 2016 Man Utd 1 - 0 Aston Villa

20 Apr 2016 Man Utd 2 - 0 C Palace

23 Apr 2016 Everton 1 - 2 Man Utd

01 May 2016 Man Utd 1 - 1 Leicester

07 May 2016 Norwich 0 - 1 Man Utd

10 May 2016 West Ham 3 - 2 Man Utd

17 May 2016 Man Utd 3 - 1 Bournemouth

21 May 2016 C Palace 1 - 2 Man Utd
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:42pm On Jul 07, 2016
lekkie073:
how come u r the only one dat sees all these good performances. the only reasonable thing Rooney worth his wages last season is the move dat led to the equaliser. all other of his performances were not commensurate to his earnings at all...if he was being paid 50k weekly and he gives those rubbish weekly performances nobody would really be annoyed. but for more then £200k weekly, those performances should warrant him a jail term angry
The reason is that you people refused to see. I am not the only one who sees. Rooney was EPL most ptoductive player of 2016 before his injury.

Between January 2nd and February Rooney scored 7 goals in 7 matches. He gave about 4 or 5 Assists that period (in all competition).


When he returned from injury, his midfield performance was the best in the whole EPL.

The problem is that you people already hate him and will never acknowledge the truth.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:06pm On Jul 07, 2016
LTSHANGY:
Elamps, Rooney or mata, who will you prefer to be your No 10?
Rooney of course.

28 years old Mata will likely retire as a waka pass number 10. He will never achieve what Rooney achieved from the number 10 position.

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