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Odunharry:
I didnt watch the match and i was complaining yesterday on the thread?
lol...make we 4get Rooney matter..


No think say na only u lyk Wonderboy,me like am pass u but if person dey fuk up no mean say u no go talk true

Forget that thing. How have you guys complained so emphatically about RVP?

Let RVP and Mata go play midfield na. We saw how much Kagawa struggled there the few time Moyes and Gaal tried him in CM.




All I know is Falcao, Young and RVP are worse than Rooney in short passes and first touch. Stats.

Someone would tell me Valencia played as a goalkeeper that's why Young was woeful.

Abeg who don poor don poor.

Rooney's touch and possession is better than RVP and Facao when he plays as a striker. Falcao got dispossessed 9 times in about 60min against Spurs. 7 times against Stoke in 60mins.

If na Rooney. I will check that of RVP. He will be worse than Rooney in striking position.

I will check lazy Berbatv dispossession too from 2009.

Odunharry:
what war??
I wonder what you will call it if we it was a Mancity or Chelsea

Then, you did not watch the match.

McNair had a cut in his skull
Shaw injured
Rafael broken jaw.


You saw Rooney always positioned to cut their agbegi play in the midfield. You guys don't see it all.

coogar:
rooney plays as a midfielder - he receives and passes the ball where opponents can't be bothered about him(low pressure zones) of the pitch.

strikers have less than 2 seconds to decide what they do with the ball - they play in high pressure zones of the pitch. one of the reasons rooney drops deep even when played as a lone striker is because of his poor ball control - he runs to areas where defenders aren't breathing down his neck.



% accuracy of which passes? long or short passes? which area of the pitch was rooney receiving those passes & how many minutes has he played in the midfield? you can't just pluck stats out of a baboon's arsë and present it in an argument.



falcao is a striker - same argument applies. young operates as a winger, same argument applies. rooney plays cinderella in front of the back four - an area where opponents can't be bothered to press.

rooney has been dispossessed 32 times this season(even from deep position) - the highest in the entire squad. it shows rooney's short passing and ball control are in shambles. you can't argue with facts - numbers don't lie.

All your argument is flawed when you compare Valencia and Young.

Rooney is far better than Falcao, RVP and Young. Young even operates deeper than Rooney.

Rooney does not ge disposed as a striker as much as Falcao and RVP. Your argument amounts to nothing.




* Can we have Berbatov disposes rate?

elampiro:
Unsuccessful touches:

RVP 28
fALCAO 21
Rooney 20
JANUZAJ 18
mATA 14
yOUNG 13
rAFAEL 13
di maria 8
wilson 7
fellaini 7
herrera 4
blind 4
Fetcher 4
Valencia 3

* Compare Young with Val here. Even Val has more playing time.

* When I am chanced, I will bring out Rooney's matches he played as striker in comparison with RVP and Falcao.

Striking position vs striking position. Tomorrow.

Di Maria
Young
RVP

Are worse than Rooney is short passing. (Inaccurate short per total short pass ratio)

Rooney and Fellaini are almost tying. They are the fighter of the team. They get into hot battle zone.

dopeJemi:
It was crystal clear yesterday, wonder why they've refused to admit it

I have give stats. Falcao, Young and RVP are the worst in these areas.

Valencia is one of our best in first touch and passes.

coogar:
this is a fraudulent statistics

rooney should be compared to carrick, blind, jones & smalling. how can you compare rooney to RVP/falcao - who mostly shoot when they receive passes. who's van persie meant to give short passes to when his job is to score? should he pass backwards or pass to an opponent?

You don't know the difference between shots and passes?
Does Young and Herrera also operate as strikers? If anything, Rooney has played as a striker and number 10. Why is Valencia doing well and RVP, Young and Falcao are woeful?

coogar:
99 inaccurate passes tell us all we need to know about rooney. he's been partnering carrick in the last few games. let's compare their short passing accuracy in those few games and rooney's short passing flaw becomes magnified.

So you cannot do the percentage accuracy? The error rate is depended on how many times you touch the ball. Rooney is better than many of our players is first touch and short passes.

Young and Falcao are woeful. RVP is abysmal.

elampiro:
Short passes this season:

Rooney 644 accurate short passes to 99 inaccurate
Fellaini 455- 64
Young 347- 62
Di Maria 318 -61
RVP 304-52
Herrera 396- 49


Yet they said Rooney is worst in short passes.

Falcao 159- 25.

Unsuccessful touches:

RVP 28
fALCAO 21
Rooney 20
JANUZAJ 18
mATA 14
yOUNG 13
rAFAEL 13
di maria 8
wilson 7
fellaini 7
herrera 4
blind 4
Fetcher 4
Valencia 3

parrotibaba:
...Against arsenal in '06 ,d cross from highs,he brought d cross down excellently b4 smashing in a shot...against Bolton in '07 ,cr7 gave him a pass n his first touch set him up perfectly for d lobbed goal


These r d ones I can clearly remember now but there r many others ,criticize him all u want but d truth still stands out ,he is a living manutd legend ,one of d best to play for united n England ,n he has bailed us out on numerous occasions(2009/2010 season comes to mind)

Guy you never see anything. They will tell you Rooney is the problem of the team.

error post

parrotibaba:
and y'all seemed to hv forgotten his goal against city during d last season of SAF ,his first goal,his first touch took him away from kompany n co n he scored with his 2nd

There are hundreds out there.

That same season, I remember two from ame season.

Karleb:
That Rooney/Mata argument no be for here o, Mata has proven to be better than Rooney in terms of control and passes infact I'm always rest assured whenever a ball either long or short is coming towards Mata, that apart Mata doesn't play the make eno spoil for my hand football. In the last 5 matches, the edges Rooney has over Mata are goals, occasionally long ball and of course his Captain band.

Let the hype start. If Mata or RVP dos ant of a thing, they are automatically te best.

Rooney was Man United best player in December.

Odunharry:
Rafael could be out for 6weeks...
When is Val coming back?
LvG should go get Coleman

Yet you guys are here critizing Rooney. The guy who fougt the war in a Rugby game at Yeovil.

coogar:
https://giant.gfycat.com/AnnualCapitalCuscus.gif

This assist is worth a billion naira. Only Rooney keeps giving this kind of passes/assists. If all had been converted, Rooney should have 10 assists now.

parrotibaba:
Enough of this Rooney criticism, Wayne Rooney has a great first touch, d Manutd vs Aston villa 2010/2011 season comes to mind ,he scored two goals in a 3-1 win ,his first goal in particular was wonderful, a goal kick from van der sar was plucked out of d air by wazza n with dat touch he rifled home a thunderous volley ...u guys r speaking like new man united fans ,go back to d days of cr7 at manutd n watch d clips ,den maybe dis argument won't hold

Those guys arent Man United fans at all.

Rooney has great controls and has scored the best first time shots for Man United.

When other payers score his kind of gaols from his time, we can start even talking with these guys here.

parrotibaba:
dats BS ,it's not concrete evidence dat his first touch is abysmal ,I just gave u one instance n another one d same season was his second goal against westham in a 4-2 win ,Valencia crossed d ball into d area n wazza's first touch was class,it took him away from his marker n bang!!!

Exactly!

Anyone can write anything about any player.

dopeJemi:
Na you funny pass, I didn't just say movement, I said his movement with the 'ball', it opened up the yeovil defence, mata was rated higher than everybody with 8, if his movement with the ball wasn't a contribution, how come he got the highest rating, more than rooney who was on the pitch for 90mins

See, let's stop going back and forth, we know fatigue played a part, but rooney was piss poor yesterday

Mata came in with fresh leggs. The battle had been fought hard in the first half of the game. That was not an ordinary football, there was some rugby in that match. That is why you have to commend Rooney. Moreoever, Rooney was to maitain position in midfiled and not in final third. Gaal even changed the formation with Mata's introduction.

If Mata didnt lift the team, what else did he come to do?

RuuDie:
Thunder must surely fire you for making mockery of all the sweat of poor naija teachers have invested for so many years to make this your block-head useful to society. See the kain gibberish that comes out of your mouth sef, you no dey sorry for yourself ni!?

You think I am a student like you? Lecturers learn from me.

dopeJemi:
Lol! That was just a normal pass, even fletcher didn't expect herrera to score, rooney didn't even expect fletcher to pass to herrera, even fletcher's pass was deflected to herrera, so rooney didn't make any major contribution there

Mata! His movement with the ball was terrific, even though herrera gave the ball away too many times, his movement was also good, and surprisingly fletcher made some good forward passes, but rooney was passing sideways and backwards and trying to play a shot knowing fully well there were two players in front of him and that was not the first time he has done something like that, let's just face fact, rooney was piss poor yesterday, second to wilson, falcao should come 3rd or 4th

You are funny. Movement is now contribution? Which player was more available. For the ball than Rooney?

You are funny to rubbish build up play tto Herrera's goal. Did the goal fall from the sky? Rooney passed to Fletcher to enable Fletcher create a chance. Fletcher intended to do that..




Wait sef. I go check stat much later. Till then.

dopeJemi:
If I'm not mistaking, fletcher had more forward passes than rooney yesterday, please try and bring up the stats

Not in support of fletcher making more contributions than rooney though

Fletcher made more costly errors.

dopeJemi:
Nobody is saying he should not be commended, he has tried no doubt, but the only major contribution he made yesterday was his assist, I can as well call de gea's shoot ins contributions if you are counting those alagadus as contributions

How did Fletcher get his assist for Herrera's goal?

Now, who else made more than one contribution? In your definition.

dopeJemi:
That's not the kinda first touch we are talking about now elampiro

He has been very good all season. To try to use one match to rubbish his entire season is pure witch hunting.

You see, many people criticized Rooney objectively but Ruudie was trying to use this match to generalize his season. This season, Rooney has been good with first touch.

May be I will start marking every mistakes from RVP and Mata.

RuuDie:
Look at dis one oh...
Has Rooney made more contribution to UTD than Ryan Giggs!!!? Yet at age 40 some people here still literally mauled him whenever he was on the pitch! Has Rooney made more contribution to UTD than Darren Fletcher!!!? Yet even after months of lay-off due to injury, few people cut him any slack!

My friend, as far as I am concerned, "I get am bifor no be property"... I go park your face for one side jor!

OMG! Fletcher contributed to Man United more than Rooney? You are high.

* 'Am get am before'. More like u talking abt RVP. Rooney has same number of goals as RVP. RVP has played more mtches and he is a striker. If it were the reverse, we wouldn't hear word. We would see you bringing in usless articles and calling for Rooney to be dropped. Amature.

dopeJemi:
I was surprised myself

What are you surprised about? Did Rooney make 5 touches to put those balls on target?

When the other players score those goals, the argument can start.

dopeJemi:
Please! What other contribution did rooney make

We scored two goals. Rooney was involved in both goals. He gave the pass to Fltecher who in turn passed to Herrera.

Rooney had a clearance in our box. I will even check the match stats later. He fought the mifield battle against those agbegis.

Rooney should be commended for battling for us week in week out. Where is Fellaini, and Rafael, Young, Shaw, and the rest midfield players? You think it's easy?

coogar:
let's look back at that incident.....

https://giant.gfycat.com/AnnualCapitalCuscus.gif

mata's cushioned pass to rooney was a big plus. rooney had one target to aim at and he nearly screwed it up sef - the defender could have easily intercepted the pass cos rooney played it nearer to the defender than di maria.



it's painful you dunno the meaning of first touch. it's a player's first touch to control the ball so that the ball doesn't get taken away from him by the markers? how can you classify shot on target as first touch? your football analysis is pure wänk!

* Rooney has madfe zillions of such Mata's pass above. It only becomes special to you and Ruudie when it comes from Mata or RVP.

* Rooney pass to Di Maria was perfect to set him on goal. Rooney, for the 3rd time has set Di Maria free on goal this season. No coincidence. Rooney has also from midfield set RVP free many times.

* Rooney is scoring from 1st touches. It's far harder than to control.

How did Rooney score a bicycle kick from Nani's cross against City in 2011? From 5 touches? Ukwu!!!

How did Rooney score from first touch of Rafael's cross against Liverpool in the preason cup final.

coogar:
you want to give rooney credits for that horrible first touch? his markers got beaten by the poor touch cos none of them ever envisaged a poor touch could be that bad. rooney himself didn't plan that - he got lucky that his markers got attracted to him instead of following the ball.



mata has never screwed up a first touch. yes, his hold up play is weak because of his small frame. his first touch is perfect but he gets easily bullied thus losing possession after controlling the ball perfectly. rooney loses possession with his first touch. it happened time & time again last night.



rooney has the poorest first touch in the whole of manchester(and that includes city, blackburn, oldham and FC united). it's not news anymore that rooney has the most horrible first touch in the premier league.

* Mata has had two bad first touches in the opposition box that should have set him free with the goalkeeper. One was a through pass from Di Maria. Mata touched it into goal kick.

* Rooney has been excellent with first touch all season. He even used a first touch to beat two City players. He deceived them.

* Falcao has the worst first touch in Man United.

dopeJemi:
Forget that thing, rooney's only highlight in a game of 90mins was his assist that came at the end of the game, rooney was that poor yesterday, fellaini wasn't that poor... We know it was fatigue but just admit rooney was piss plus shi.t poor yesterday, I've never witnessed that kinda shitty performance from rooney before

Fellaini was worse. I have forgotten the match sef. Even with Valencia, Carrick and Youbng in the match, Fellaini was poo.

* How can you even say that was Rooney's only contribution? What yeye talk is that?