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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:40am On Sep 02, 2014
Falcao

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:08am On Sep 02, 2014
Dadehmola: In a nutshell, we have signed a shorter, less talented version of carrick, innit?
His stat are not encouraging, but let's wait and see. I want someone who can do aerial battle in the middle and as well win lots of tackles there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:50am On Sep 02, 2014
Dadehmola: I'd have preferred Anita or even sandro. I hope I'm proven wrong sha undecided
His defensive stats are not encouraging to me. He doesnt appear to be good in aerial duel. An area we have been lacking.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:38am On Sep 02, 2014
I read Welbeck forced his way out by fire by force. He refused a loan deal.

He must bne angry at how Sturridge has progressed far ahead of him. And Welbeck was the better talent.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:29am On Sep 02, 2014
Blind is Dutch Footballer of the Year: 2014

He was Ajax best player in 2012/13 season.

I read his first position is a DM.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:16am On Sep 02, 2014
So Blind is the DM we signedhuh

Midfield
Blind- Herrera

Defence
Jones-Rojo-Blakett, ..... Shaw
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:43pm On Sep 01, 2014
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:38pm On Sep 01, 2014
United sign Daley Blind from Ajax

Manchester United is delighted to announce that Daley Blind has completed his transfer for a fee of £14million.
Daley joins on a four-year contract with the option to extend for a further year.

Blind, 24, came through the ranks of the Ajax youth system, making his senior debut in 2008 for his hometown club. He has 19 caps for the Netherlands national team and was voted Dutch Player of the Year for the 2013/14 season.

Daley Blind said: "It is a real honour to sign for Manchester United.

"I have been at Ajax since I was seven years old and I will always have very fond memories of the club and of my time there.

"Louis van Gaal is a tremendously talented coach, I have worked with him at Ajax and also for the Netherlands national team and I cannot wait to work with him at the biggest club in the world."

Louis van Gaal said: "I am delighted Daley has signed for the club.

"He is a very intelligent and versatile footballer that can play in many positions.

"Daley is a great reader of the game, he has played under my philosophy over a number of years and he will be a great addition to the team."

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:17pm On Sep 01, 2014
TRANSFER NEWS: Manchester United and Sampdoria are 'one step away' from agreement on Argentine goalkeeper Sergio Romero.
[Source: Gazzetta dello Sport]
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:11pm On Sep 01, 2014
coogar: the way forward? maybe in the US.
prenups mean shyte in the UK. the divorce law here does not recognise it. if a woman files for a divorce, her partner would lose half of his wealth.

they are even trying to extend that to boyfriend & girlfriend relationships. cheesy grin
And men are passing these nonsense into law.

I am beginning to wonder what prompted the law in the first play. English men must have been treating women like poo.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:51pm On Sep 01, 2014
leggo: that's why prenups exist.
That's the way forward.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:34pm On Sep 01, 2014
coogar: he's worth $9.1 billion. the wife got $4.5 billion in settlements around may. if i were him, i would be visiting a dibia in owerri to run her mad before she gets that kinda money from me.

she probably doesn't know how $1 of that fortune was made.
Some Western laws are senseless. This is crazy. A woman from the blues will just come and STEAL half of a man's fortune? May be rich men should make women to sign contract in their own (the husband) terms when entering marriage. I heard on channel E Trump does something like that after he lost his investment those days and his first wife took half of his left over in a divorce.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:24pm On Sep 01, 2014
Burnley are interested in taking Anderson on loan.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:03pm On Sep 01, 2014
We negotiated and bought Falcao within 12 hrs. But they said Man United cannot finish a deal within a month.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:36pm On Sep 01, 2014
nitlad: https://i.imgur.com/oPE1DIG.png

Na so. . .


But na only for here talk RvP going for surgery dey o. . . .
Not only here...


Robin van Persie facing knee operation nightmare, Manchester United fear he may never be 100 per cent again

Metro Sport Reporter

Sunday 31 Aug 2014 10:12 am

Robin van Persie may be forced to go under the knife as fears at Manchester United grow that he may never be 100 per cent fit again without a dreaded knee operation.

The Dutch striker was penciled in for surgery last season after injuring his left knee ligaments in the 3-0 win over Olympiakos in February.

However, then-Netherlands manager Louis van Gaal persuaded Van Persie to delay the procedure and manage the injury with rest to ensure he was fit for the World Cup in Brazil.

Now, according to The People, United and new boss Van Gaal know it’s only a matter of time before they lose Van Persie to the treatment table for an extended period of time.

The news may force Van Gaal’s hand in the market, as the loss of Van Persie at any point in the season would leave United significantly short of firepower.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/31/robin-van-persie-in-line-for-knee-operation-as-manchester-united-fear-he-may-never-be-100-per-cent-4851624/
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:30pm On Sep 01, 2014
Manchester United

We can confirm that Chicharito will spend the 2014/15 season on loan at Real Madrid, who reserve a first buying option on the striker at the end of the loan. Full details
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:28pm On Sep 01, 2014
* Unconfirmed reports that Manchester United have accepted a £3.75m bid from QPR for Will Keane.

* Villa cannot pay Cleverley's salary.


* I wonder what Dortmud will pay Kagawa?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:25pm On Sep 01, 2014
chrisley024: VP was cheaper and more trusted for EPL.
Not that I'm against signing him, ofcourse I'd want also Messi and Ronaldo, but that's not our weak spot while I don't see us getting 4-5yrs out of him. And for such amount?. huh angry

Let's stop being reactive cos we wouldn't want him to join a rival club and solve our problem.
Why don't we spend it on Vidal, another midfielder and Hummels?.
Pls let's sign and sing the best. We cannot afford to have years of obscurity like Liverpool. Our brand is at stake.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:29pm On Sep 01, 2014
afrodoc2: Makes no sense to help Arsenal out, better we loan him to Hull or QPR not a direct rival
Yea, but these same people gave you RVP.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:27pm On Sep 01, 2014
Jalonking: Radamel Falcao's agent insists Manchester United
have BOUGHT star for £51.3m
RADAMEL FALCAO'S agent Jorge Mendes insists
Manchester United have agreed a deal to buy the
Colombia striker.

Hmmmmm.....
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/397442/Radamel-Falcao-s-agent-insists-Manchester-United-have-BOUGHT-star-for-51-3m
You obviously did not open the link to read the details.

However, the details contained there have been addressed here already.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:22pm On Sep 01, 2014
Some are saying Falcao is on loan first because he's injury prone. So why can't we do same for VIdal?

* Arsenal said to turn attention o Reus.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:42am On Sep 01, 2014
coogar: it's a loan deal for now & it's somewhere between £6m to £12m. in the agreement, we have the first option to buy at €65m next season.

the funniest ish here was that falcao was given the arsenal option first & he chose united. seriously, a team that finished 7th was chosen ahead of arsenal who have a CL spot?

the united brand is massive! grin
Up woodworks!

We have delayed spending of €65m until a year later. It makes so much sense. This is a fine deal.

We still have Chicharito to replace our old men in the future. We are doing just fine in the striker positions.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:38am On Sep 01, 2014
SIRcumalot: Quick question, when did RVP pick up this Knee injury, against Burnley ?
I hope this falcao story isn't true
We don't have a quality DM and we are blowing all this Money on a Striker who probably won't be serviced properly.
Are this People signing with sense ? Make them look Chelsea na I don't think their is any weakness in that Squad.
O'boy chill jor. RVP needed a surgery since injury his knee against Olympiacos. But the world cup prevented that.

As for Midfield, let's see what today holds for us. Hope it'snot going to be a case where Rooney is converted to a midfielder. That won't be the answer to a DM we desperately need. Even if na Song make them bring come. He should just be told to maintain his position and not overlap as he does.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:32am On Sep 01, 2014
Chihca in Madrid.

I have more reasons to watch Madrid. Hipe they will use him much.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:26am On Sep 01, 2014
So Man United can now hijack a deal in the last minute from other big spenders? Now we have arrived completely.


The results will come with time. cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:18am On Sep 01, 2014
*BREAKING NEWS*
Manchester United have signed Falcao on loan from Monaco subject to a medical. He will arrive by private jet this afternoon.

I saw that on a facebook corner....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:16am On Sep 01, 2014
coogar: it's the kinda player that plays in that tip of the triangle that determines if it's 4-2-3-1 or 3-3. rosicky is not a "number 10" so that ends that your line of argument. that's 4-3-3. in the other examples you have shown, rooney, silva, etc are all number 10s.
So when Rooney is played in the midfield, you will still count him as a striker? Players are adapted where the natural players arent available. RVP is a natural winger but he was gradually converted by Wenger. RVP himself said he was scared when he was told to try that position.

Or you may say Kagawa was in the hole even when SAF used him in the wing? Januzaj, Giggs have played in the hole for us.

As long as their is a playmaker, it's not a 4-3-3.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:00am On Sep 01, 2014
BBC:
This formation is quite an attacking one.

The 4-3-3 system - that is four defenders, three midfielders and three attackers - allows you to have three attackers while still having a strong midfield. The three midfielders will normally play quite closely together to give protection to the defence and so they cannot be passed around by the opposition. The three strikers will split across the pitch to provide width to the attack.

Usually you would have a central attacker with one each side of him.

The 4-3-3 does not actually differ that much from the 4-5-1 formation. Former England coach. Barcelona play with this system with Samuel Eto'o, Ronaldinho and Ludovic Giuly. Very few teams actually start with this line-up as you need to have specialist attackers. But if a manager needs a goal late on in a game then he may opt to move to three up front.


BBC:
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BBC:4-5-1

Traditionally favoured by European teams, the 4-5-1 formation is becoming ever more popular in the Premiership.
The 4-5-1 - that is four defenders, five midfielders and one striker - is often seen in European games where teams face a tough away fixture and the manager chooses to pack the midfield.

It can be very effective, particularly at keeping possession, and with five midfielders covering the defence it provides a solid base.
Sometimes you will see 10 men behind the ball. But it also means that attacking options are limited.The poor old striker often has a lone battle up front. It works best with a big, strong front man, such as Chelsea's Didier Drogba, who can win the ball in the air and hold it up until support arrives.

Otherwise it can produce relatively few goal-scoring chances.
This system has a lot in common with the 4-3-3 formation, where the wide midfielders join the lone striker.
Jose Mourinho used this particularly well during his (first) time at Chelsea.
Put simply, they play 4-3-3 when they have the ball and 4-5-1 when they do not.


BBC
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:50am On Sep 01, 2014
From the BBC formation chart, which is corroborated by Ass football chart, there can't be a player in the hole in a 4-3-3. Same as 4-5-1.

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(4-3-3), (4-5-1), (4-4-2), (4-4-1-1) and (4-2-3-1) are all closely rated. The major thing distinguishing 4-2-3-1 and 4-4-1-1 from the rest is that there is a playmaker- hole.

According to association football, 4-4-1-1 and 4-2-2 can easily be confused.

'Interpretations of 4–4–1–1 can be slightly muddled, as some might say that the extent to which a forward has dropped off and separated himself from the other can be debated. The system was most prominently used during the 2009-10 season by Fulham F.C, with midfielder Zoltan Gera playing behind forward Bobby Zamora as they upset many teams across Europe on their way to the 2010 UEFA Europa League Final.'
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4-3-3 and 4-5-1 are closely related.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:21am On Sep 01, 2014
coogar: explain this then.....

www.nairaland.com/attachments/1667314_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188

that's the man utd 8-2 arsenal game.
Take a look at Rooney's position vs Liverpool. Rooney was in the hole, but because of the fact that United came under pressure, Rooney appeared to be a midfielder. Same with Mata against Stoke in the Carling cup.

The second chart showed A real 4-3-3 when United played City. We started with a clear 4-3-3.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:18am On Sep 01, 2014
wrong post.. deleted
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:03am On Sep 01, 2014
dopeJemi: He'll be watching from the sideline for a very long time. He doesn't need to go anywhere
We are saying the same thing. In the short run, only Rooney will be available as an experienced striker. May gaal doesn't want to rely on Welbeck as the other striker. Hence the attempt to bid for Falcao.

But if we got Falcao, we would end up with three experienced strikers and Falcao would be first choice. Should this happen, would one of Rooney and RVP be content with being a squad player as the humble Giggs did for us?

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